11.26.07

where can i find good political audio files to help me understand morelectures or pundits or whateveranyone

Posted in Politics at 3:19 pm by Michael Johnson

Jillian F. Banfield of the University of California, Berkeley, a member of the discovery team. “These were totally new.” In their paper, the scientists call the microbes “smaller than any other known cellular life form.”

don’t go getting all mystic on us, ‘mkay?

in other words, exactly the opposite of what the rest of the Media does.

he just wants to get pics of Congress critters picking their noses

He said C-SPAN would cover floor proceedings in the same manner it covers hearings _ ”fully, accurately and with the unbiased production style on which we’ve built our reputation for the past 28 years.”

OcDoc — Not only their noses

viruses and prions are not cellular

The microbes are about 200 nanometers wide — the size of large viruses, which scientists consider lifeless because they cannot reproduce on their own

they found them on Zeta Draconis?

I would not call a virus lifeless if it were up to me

I better eat some supper … back in a bit

Scientists found the microbes living in a remarkably inhospitable environment, drainage water as caustic as battery acid from a mine in Northern California.

later doc

this isn ‘t new is it ? doesn’t sound new

hi Free … bye Free

aren’t they like proto bacteria

2 22/12/2006

in that eukarytes or something

FreeTra5w hi hi — if you are here…

yah, the domain of eukaryota, not bacteria

well I must say my new diamond earrings and necklace.. is very nice heheh

Janet –ohhhh nice yes… but I seldom wear my earrings… opted for earrings and bracelet - seldom wear either - but only on special occaions

Kaliuna.. I wear 2 pair every day

Well its nice janet if you use them and enjoy them

Janet — well out in the country — not a good idea…

I’m kinda weird but I don’t like jewelry .. just not my thing.

at anyrate, i dont think it calls for reexamining the paradigm of life as you say AAAman

I’d rather have a new computer. LOL

Comet — ya not really into wearing a lot of jewelry - but I do wear magnet bracelet when my back flares up a bit

comet.. I got a new compute last year

after all we are still talking nucleic acids and such

I am a jewery freak though

I just upgraded this summer and got a NEW 20.1″ monitor for Christmas…

I built a new computer for my wife last year.

Wyld thats what we do here — home built for most part - except lappie Janet — I have a lot of stones I should have set…

Kaliuna, yeah you should!! whats the good of stones you can not wear

d

janetb told me she’s a superfreak

Janet — ya I know — and I will work on it after I design the settings Janet and you know me - I design my own things…

true

For?

WB Doc

thankee

CarZ - for a lot of things…

hey

ho

us-male!!!

SWIG

CarZ - you’ve never seen my art sketches or read any of my short stories, or seen any of my garden-flowers and veggies … and just posted room design work we just completed…

thanks, I think

hi Swiggy

hey kali I’m at my dad’s place

That’s very observant of you… but perhaps the more useful idea would be to present some of those things.

Swigert, Happy Pagan Festival

swiggy — you had a safe trip then

I design and build furniture to chill out.

us-male: satanist!!

CarZ — ok go to http://pages.prodigy.net/cherryak you can start with photo stuff click through

no I mean Christmas

happy festivus

Wyld — cool idea haven’t done that for a few years…

chriatmas is a pagan festival you know

I know satan … satan is a friend of mine … and you, Swigert, are NO SATAN!

No GUI… I’ll just read the shorts.

oh thank goodness

Santa …. Satan …. coincidence ?

CarZ - ok then you need to click Cherry’s Pages — stories are ounder section I

heh

The communications director for Montana’s lone congressman solicited the services of two men he falsely believed to be criminally minded hackers-for-hire — with the expressed goal of jacking up his college GPA — during an exchange that spanned 22 e-mails over two weeks this past summer.

-o

hehehe

CarZ and you might enjoy If It Flies - cause its for this season…

they don’t allow Chrtistmas to be celebrated in Canada

bye bye prison.net

boy I am glad they are gone they are smelly and mean

Alright. Netsplit… meh.

so he’s feeling a little inadequate in the brains department? he probably voted for the law that made it a federal crime to tamper with computer files, too tsk tsk

who is wetfish?

Swiggy — you haven’t looked at the stuff hubby and I did — entry/hallway yet — naughty naughty

my dad showed me the new deck he’s building - lovely

Swigert’s deck is bigger than OcDoc’s deck

Swiggy — cool - now go look at what we did!! its COOL too hey Mongo — trap ahhh hi

ocdoc he wasnt a congressman he was an aide

hmmm .. I thought I banned panix this morning

Celebrate Festivus

then he probably WROTE the law

but here you are .. back again

celebrate Ed-el-Fetier

comet - ahh isn’t that trap?

yeah I’m teasing him

who’s in denver?

heheheh - comet

anyone in denver area?

everybody for a while

not me ajofi ..

haha!

ajofi - its a state away - but what you need to know?

haha

ajofi - partial airline going out –

well i’m wondering what the local news is on why the airport took so long to reopen

have you ever watched the movie “Airplane?”

ajofi .. they said it was too icy and they were worried about accidents.

ajofi - well it is because snow hadn’t quit coming down

i find it hard to believe they couldn’t keep one runway out of six open, let alone that they basically gave up and it took over 12 hours to reopen

Perhaps sometimes I can discuss with your Minor Details.

icy runway?

surely you have

CarZ — any time you want — dcc works or PM

cometbaby .

well, that’s why

ajofi.. I have to agree with that assessment. I saw it on the news yesterday morning and to be perfectly honest it didn’t look THAT bad to me.

ocdoc, airplane with a question mark or an exclamation mark

hi wetfish

some aviation people i know had a good point, that this sort of thing happens in minnesota and salt lake and they don’t have these kinds of problems

both … neither … I don’t know

Comet - it really IS that bad - black ice under that snow

how long was the airport actually closed?

fun fact = “Airplane” made only one airline sale; Aeromexico

wedneday afternoon to friday afternoon? two days?

if they’d stayed open and an accident happened, then they would have been blamed for staying open government is risk-averse

ajofi… this is something new. I was born and raised in Denver and I have flown out of there in very bad conditions .. never stoped them

i know

I don’t get it

i’m a pilot and i know what equipment they have for landing at DIA

Comet - right - but talking to friend there - black ice was baddddd

but i don’t know squat about the ground equipment

oh, you mean the in-flight movie?

Airplane was about airline disasters = somewhat inappropriate for airline in-flight movies

har har Aeromexico “assume the crash position”

so are they well equipped or was this beyond their capacity?

“If it Flies” lacks the artistry to initiate any sort of discussion…

ajofi are you a member here yet ? http://pilotsfor911truth.org

But “Minor Details” is a bit more worth it.

CarZ — ya it was totally in fun — but Minor Details won in top ten short stories on net — so ya.. It ranked #7 of top ten in 97 out of over 320+ entries

in terms of landing equpment this is well within capacity of the airport and the aircraft landing there

ever see Airplane 2?

the problem as i see it would be ground equipment maybe they just couldn’t keep up with the drifts piling up if they didn’t have enough ground equipment but also if there’s black ice, that’s bad better to pack down the snow instead of clearing

CarZ if you’d like I have my dcc/im/pm or whatever you call it open if you want to discuss it

i’d rather land on snow pack than ice landing on ice is way way way bad

I don’t remember

ajofi - thats what my friend said it was black ice underneath…

it had its moments

Yeah, we will… I’d rather give it more attention than I can afford at the moment, so perhaps later. I’m writing an extensive work of literature, myself.

CarZ — any time — I’m on line most nights.. be glad to discuss

i’m not sure that black ice is worse than any other ice as far as planes are concerned

CarZ - well short stories are not my normal thing — I write longer stories

the big deal with black ice is driving, when you dont know the conditions of the road in front of you and rely on visual confirmation for things like ice

it must be racial prejudice that makes them fear black ice

probably

yes I think so

definitely

dehuman - indeed it is — hard to see there IS ice… unless you have lights on it

well with black ice you’re screwed unless they have a way to remove it and i don’t know what that would be

why is that?

spray deicder on it

but i would think that twin cities has stuff for that

do you have to see the ice to know its there?

de-icer

and chicago

ajofi — de-icer works best…

only works at certain temp

well not airplane deicer

OMG food wen ur drunk

that stuff is slicker than snot

christ its yummy

if its too cold there is no melting it

how far is it from Denver to KC?

just assume there is ice when its cold enough

escuse me im munching hehe

thats what i do

and then you throw up

Swiggy - well Comet is NOT in KC - but its a good day’s drive

I might make that drive this summer

weather permitting … or not

Swiggy — I-70 all way

I 70 in a few years

my car thermometer says “ice” when it gets cold enough

yup - with a stop in Topeka to see the KS state capital

do you ever suspect your car is lying to you? mine does

Doc nah we’ve drive from KC to Denver area in a day — stopping for gas and lunch

actually it says “ice” at around 37 degrees OcDoc it lies all the time

Swiggy - well if you GO through KC area — ahem - you best stop and we’ll have coffee or something

remember, bridges ice first

Swiggy and GO see the WWI Memorial!

hah

One thing I can tell you though: don’t be swayed by the audience, contests, or even critics.

UsLame

er, sorry … USMale

Let only realisations come.

I like it

CarZ– oh I know that – CarZ — well I’ve been writing for a few decades now .. CarZ — well I’ve been writing for a few decades now ..

no such thing as ice at 37 without an additive anyway

hmm tempting

well, you’ve heard of wind-chill?

well there is actually ice at 37 degrees

no there isn’t

Swiggy - MORE than tempting — its a == ahh == PLEASE!!

the bulk of ice takes a while to melt

wind chill does not lower the temperature

ajofiL yes, there is. every single year

as the wind blows over the water it evaporates some of the water cooling it below ambient temp

Black ice may form even when the ambient temperature is several degrees above the NTP freezing point of water. This occurs typically (and treacherously) when terrain contours and/or prevailing winds cause a local steep differential of atmospheric pressure and/or temperature, or when the atmosphere has warmed up after a prolonged cold spell that leaves the temperature of the ground and roadway well below the freezing point.

we’ll see - you are persuasive in an intimidating kind of way

yes, it does

the AIR might be 37 but the ICE obviously is not

just because the temo reaches 37, does not mean all the ice just melts right away

or it would not be ICE

Swiggy –

so, yes, of coufrse there IS ice at 37 degrees and higher, ever year

HAPPY FESTIVUS BYE GUYS

air temp is what registers on such a thermometer that was being discussed

the car thermometer measures AIR temperature, not pavement temperature

just admit you were wrong.

hahaa

I would like to see where the Royals play (baseball stadium fan), and the WW1 museum

ice does not form at 37

naw, we’re going to discuss semantics for the next half hour

hahaha this guy is dumb

wind chill DOES lower the temperature of standing water, however

actually ice doesn’t even always form at temperatures below 32F

no shit

Swiggy — easy enough to do — but you might also enjoy the PLAZA and all the fantastic water fountains — rivals ROME

sometimes it forms at 37

Calgary to Auburn, stopping in Billings, Denver, KC, Springfield IL, Indianapolis, Nashville and Birmingham

not without an additive, or without a major change in pressure wind chill does not significantly lower the temperature of standing water either

ice is generally present at some time during winter at times when the temperature is 37 degrees.

although it can increase the rate at which it cools it’s not generally present, you can’t say that

that is AIR temperature, dingdong I can say it and I just did and I am correct.

well you’re wrong

just admit you were wrong.

no

ajofi = retard

you’re wrong

you aren’t qualified ajofi

poor dumb ajofi !

try the Arizona desert

if you know its temp and pressure then what value is saying ice doesn’t form at 37 degrees when you know better?

oh my god you people are crazy

there is no value, since we were discussing aiur temperature

100% pure water does not form ice at 37 degrees

and then trying to defend such an idiot posiution when indeed there is ice currently in an area with 37 degree ambient air temp

this ajofi character is just a fool

the ICE isn’t 37 degrees or it would MELT

i defer you to brood in shame ajofi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_ice wikipedia, while not always correct, does side with me on this one so it should be taken as the final and last word on ice

black ice by definition is not pure water idiot

ajofi; irrelevant. Admit you awere wrong or be ridiculed.

i feel fat now

dude road ice, is not pure water in fact

and black ice form as a result of super cooled water in most instances

i challenge you to name one natural source of pure water

so at once time it was BELOW 32 degrees before it formed

haha

it doesn’t actually form AT a temperature of 37 because it can’t

no

dehuman — springs –

look at him try to wiggle out of his idiocy

i need some guy to chat me up or woman and tell me im all cute and stuu and sexccc im off to the horny channels nn all

nite nemes

i again defer to wikipedia Black ice may form even when the ambient temperature is several degrees above the NTP freezing point of water.

rainwater?

indeed.

notice ice, form, several degrees above ntp freezing point contaminatied

air temp is not surface temp

dust

WHEN AMBIENT TEMPERATURE

always?

AMBIENT idiot! the water itself IS NOT

haw haw look at the dummy ajofi ! he can’t get it

not just the ambient temperature its also surface temperature

water doesn’t fucking solidify at 37 degrees

lol he’s a moron!

you dont know what ambient temp?

car thermometers measure air temp, fool

as a pilot i know a LOT MORE about how ice forms than you do, that much i know

and ice can form at 37 degrees

ice doesn’t form at 37 degrees

just not at 1 atmosphere

ajofi doesn’t know jack shit

sure it does just not at 1 atmosphere

fool i already qualified pressure as a factor

give it up ..

that was 10 minutes ago

car thermometers measure air temp, fool

that’s right

lol

just admit you were wrong

AMBIENT

so what exactly is your point ajofi? except for kludging yor way thru 6th grade science?

i’ve already stated it

now, say you were wrong and shut the fuck up

ambient means “in the surroundings”

look when the ground temp is low - below freezing - in spite of having warm upper layers and rain - and upper layers turning cold — after rain - you get black ice

it says nothing about the water temperature itself

100% water doesn’t solidify at 37 degrees at normal atmospheric pressure

if the ground temp is above freezing — even if upper air is colder - and it rains you won’t GET black ice

i’ll by that

lol he can’t let go of his error

ambient means the temperature of the surroundings

ambient can be 37, but water does not solidify at 37, it can’t. it’s not how it works.

should have said so in the first place ajofi no points anyway, waht a worthless observation

10 fucking minutes ago asshat

let’s all pitch in and get ajofi a lobotomy for christmas

us-male: anohter???

haha

yeah i’ll still be smarter than you us-male even after the lobotomy

thats how dumb he is

ajofi replies “durrr!”

it doesn’t have to rain to get black ice … water vapor can freeze to the pavement straight out of the air

yes Doc — I’ve seen it happen with moisture laden air - when ground is frozen– but thats the point the ground has to be below freezing

true

ajofi thinks when air temp hits 37, all the ice immediately melts

i never said that liear

if ground isn’t frozen — not much happens -

liar

I didn;t say you said it, dumbass.

i never said it

but you think it.

imbecile

I didn’t say you said it, dumbass. but you think it.

what a dumb thing to argue about. 911 was an inside job. argue that

air temp can be in 40-50s but if ground is frozen - getting that black ICE off — still difficult without de-icer or special salts

peons

why argue what’s not true?

if Bush is as dumb as they say he is, how can that be true?

dras — you are the peon - you were banned before — keep it up -

we peon you

bush is a figurehead…but you knew that already

pffft

ok who let this banned person back in ?

kaliuna cometbaby actually so shut your mouth

naw, he’s dictator of the universe … the Cabinet, the Congress and the Supreme court are just for show

dras - then cut the crap

what crap? my opinion is that 911 was at least allowed to happen

Bush used his magic powers

many people smarter and more powerful than me say the same thing

at least allowed to happen? No proof at all.

dras - that is the biggest bullshit

In fact, if you were to suspend a drop of pure water in the air, out of contact with any surface, you’d have to chill it to about minus 35 Celsius, or 37 below zero Fahrenheit, before it would turn to ice take that

that wouldn’t take much

mmm not bullshit but not compelling as presented

its bullshit - bunch of conspiracy nuts

swigert of course theres no hard proof…but theres much evidence to show that the “worker bees” were thwarted from the top down in exposing this 9/11 operation america needed it. apparently.

On most surfaces, from dust to pavement, water crystallizes into ice with the same predictability that caused us all to miscalculate its freezing point. (The melting point of pure ice–32 degrees F., 0 degrees C.–is virtually immutable.) Cantrell is investigating what properties a surface must have to raise water’s freezing point that high.

dras — if you continue on that bend of thought - you are naive… or one of the sheep who follow stupidity to the point of ludicrousness dras - now get with the program and join in current discussion

kaliuna im the one whos done the research and made up his own mind you probably dont know 10% of what i know

dras — I probably know a LOT more than you will EVER know

most of what you know just ain’t so

dras; well forget what you thought you know and step in line comrade we’ll have none of that here, this is a TFHFZ tin foil hate free zone take it off, let the mind control rays in

ocdoc oh im sure much is disinformation, etc….i accept that

thats hat, not hate, not that it matters

how does false flag terrorism = tin foil hat? you must not be a student of history

most conspiracy theories are a combination of falsehood, speculation, coincidences and leading questions

you shouldn’t hate tin foil either

ocdoc 19 arabs from saudi arabia thwarting the fbi, norad, pentagon, cia… with boxcutters is a conspiracy

I’m a history grad student; I am a student of history; and you’re full of BS

dras has saved ajofi by being even DUMBER than him hallelujah

dras - one they weren’t ALL from saudi arabia –

what other ally countries were they from egypt? pakistan?

conspiracy theories are complex, that’s why they are dismissed

certainly not iran, iraq, lebanon…

most people don’t have the brain power to follow them

dras — you CLAIM to be an historian - suggest you look it up

dras have you seen a psychiatrist ? actually maybe ajofi buys this too

dras - and know this — several had FAKE passports and IDs

David Irving is a better historian than dras - and Irving is a fool

buys what?

hahaha

that the government was in on 9/11 or allowed it?

Swiggy — ehheehe

yeah.

those are two different things

anything is possible

any evidence ?

thats why there is occum’s razor anything is possible, but far less is plausible

maybe angels dance on the head of a pin

governments and politicians are treacherous

since anything is possible

no evidence, i’m not making the claim though

our country has been subverted by a criminal element, who worship power and money….they think of themselves as some kind of “super patriots” and 3000 people dead in some buildings mean nothing to them

but there is a computable probability for everything

except what they can gain from such a world changing event

well, no there isn’t

This is often paraphrased as “All things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the best one.” In other words, when multiple competing theories are equal in other respects, the principle recommends selecting the theory that introduces the fewest assumptions and postulates the fewest hypothetical entities. It is in this sense that Occam’s razor is usually understood.

says you

many probabilities are not computable

except on futurama with the ‘what if’ machine

occams razor is just lazy bullshit, certainly not something to applied to global politics

if they weren’t computable they wouldn’t be called probablities

im sure the CIA loves “occams razor” ha ha

that shows an alternate reality based on ‘what if’ within -/+ 1 probability unit accuracy

incorrect. You’re dumb.

ok, time for bed, early morning tomorrow, getting all the deliveries out! night all… see you tomorrow

us-male: get a dictionary

remember the machine that translates English into some unknown langauge (French)(

no i dont watch much futurama, but did catch one last night

all things HAVE a probability, but you need to have relevant information to compute them get a brain.

NITE JANET — HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!

very funny show at times

ajofi = fucking retard

no you need relevant information to compute them CORRECTLY

us-male: still like him better than dras

you can still compute probability on what information is know known

swigert and what did i do besides make you think uncomfortable things

you aren’t prevented from computing probability just because some things aren’t known

ajofi; incorrect. If it is not done correctly you have not computed it

the hijackers were a conspiracy … true

you’ve computed something else. ajofi = fucking retard

obviously you know nothing of quantum physics go read then come back and play

LOL. dumbass.

you spread already discredited lies

quantum physics is all about probabilities of all sorts of things we know nothing about

don’t pretend you know what quantum physics is. I do know. ajofi = fucking retard

oh? what do you know?

swigert im pretty well versed on the discredited and useless 911 conspiracy aspects

upon what principle does a tunneling diode work?

ajofi; exactly, dumbass. That’s why you can’t compute things you have no information on. I know that you’re a dumbass.

i didn’t say you didn’t have any information on it - just that it wasn’t complete

how does the Pauli Exclusion Principle operate?

ajofi; and I know that you pretend to know things that you have NO clue about

because we can’t even define complete understanding of many kinds of systems that we compute probabilities for projection on your part us-male

you have to have some information to compute a probability your claim is 100% false

why can’t you predict both the location and vector of a subatomic particle simultaneously

but there is a computable probability for everything

why can’t you contain a hydrogen atom near absolute zero? probability = approximation

DOc - cause it keeps moving around — dang it all any way

there are things for which you have insufficient information, hence you cannot compute probabilities for “everything” as ajofi falsely claimed

you can’t calculate an exact probability for everything chaos theory proves you can’t

exactly

heh

like trying to figure out a cat — constantly changing direction and all that kinda of stuff

what is the best strategy to use in a game of “iterated prisoner’s dilemma?”

no you can’t produce an EXACT probability, but you can still come up with a probability

no, not always. just admit you are wrong.

i think an exact probability is a contradiction anyway

your claim was foolish you should not have said “everything”

ajofi is looking for a black cat in a coal bin in the basement at midnight

actually that can be done

no, it’s not … you can predict the exact probablity that a die will come up six on any roll you cannot predict the exact interval between drips of water from a faucet

compute the probability that god exists.

probability I mean

0

incorrect. I win.

haha

haw haw haw he’s a fool ! that was too easy

you can’t prove i’m wrong though

I don’t need to you have to “compute” it which you cannot

there’s nothing to compute

that’s what I told you 50 minutes ago dingdong

you asked a question for which there is only one answer

err 30

you cannot calculate the probability that god exists … there’s nothing to calculate WITH

incorrect

42

you claimed you can compute a probability for everything

life, the universe and everything

that was false. You fucked up

ok slight exaggeration

slight … tee hee

MAJOR)

for the most part we can compute probability to a great many things, with a wide variance on the accuracy of that probability including the probability of how wrong we might be

there are many things that you can measure and never be able to calculate the probability those are chaotic phenomena

of course light is one of them

the drip interval of a water tap is one of the classic examples of chaos theory the butterfly effect you can precisely measure the interval between successive drips and never calculate the probability that the next drip will be a particular time interval

Are some things beyond the realm of human understanding?

at the moment, surely

yes … er, no … maybe

Wyld — lets just say there are things beyond the realm of human acceptance

I don’t think so there are things we don’t understand now, but I think all those things could be understandable by humans but I classify that opinion as “faith”

although since we don’t know what those things even are, we can’t say as Rummy would say “unknown unknowns”

Doc - well there are some things — still hmm — not understood - but we keep trying

true, but I have faith that we COULD understand them

having known unknowns is a starting point

Doc — eventually – wyld - sometimes yes — sometimes they just lead to further unknowns

its all unknown… as dogs run free - bob dylan

there is a berry pie cooling on the rack that is driving me NUTS

eat it

ya Wyld and the biggest unknown - is the space between your own ears!

true kaliuna

also there are layers of understanding … I may understand something at a superficial level that I don’t understand at a deeper level

i separate knowledge and understanding.

I agree the law of gravity is correct at a superficial level, with the general theory of relativity being more correct at a deeper level

ahh knowledge is ever continuing

not for some peeps

doc– sadly so

if I didnt learn something new every time I came to this channel I wouldnt keep coming back everyday.

I can’t claim to “understand” the general theory of relativity, even though I can write down and calculate using the formulae

always learning something new == or expanding on something just learning about

cool

Wyld — good - but there’s so much more in this world — beyond political realms

politics is the only game for adults worth playing

doc — ohhh no no no

everything else is just puzzles Kal — ohhh yes yes yes! they retired my jersey

doc - so much more to life and ‘games’ doc - awww — does this mean YOU get to retire?

from politics yes

never doc

I paid my dues as a citizen, now I sit back and watch other play others

Doc - oh I still play!! Doc - when you quit — you fall apart…

I might get back into it if I thought I could change the system to a proportional representation system as long as we have a two party system, there’s no chance it’s a stacked cold deck trying to work through one of the two parties is doomed

ahh yes — but ya know - the parties keep changing

yeah, the keep getting more and more like each other with less and less substance and more and more gamesmanship

Doc — so lets throw them all out! evening Bill

I tried for a long time … I never even came close

eve’nin’

doc — ya I know - so have I Bill — http://www.kayceedot.magnets4yourhealth.com/gallery/index.php?level=collection&id=6 Bill take a look– this is what has kept me pretty busy for while

The Saudi princess was thrown out of the US for mistreating her servants today

is that a cat climbing the wall?

Bill - thats buttons– she was testing out things.. ) Bill - but pix 4 shows color best — as far as wall color

looks nice

I started out as a Democrat but couldn’t go to the state convention because I wasn’t a black woman

Bill — ty — lots of work!! floor was most time consuming Doc - oh ya…

so I tried to change my gender and race … no luck

i quit voting democrat when the judge i liked got arrested for voyeurism

DOC!

heh well, that’s why I wear a skirt, dontcha know

Bill — well I vote MOSTLY GOP, but I do have a couple of DEMs — old school type dems that are okkk doc - kilt don’t ya mean?

oh … yeah .. kilt that’s right … (wicked grin)

ewwww you wicked mad you

kilt = plaid skirt

mad man you one of my son’s friends (oldest son) was married in traditional kilt…

nice was your son ‘best man’?

it really was quite nice — too bad the marriage only lasted 5 yrs…

aw … too bad

yes son was best man him and his hairy legs

did he have to wear a kilt to match the groom?

clan tartans are an interesting.

ya — know both of them — groom and bride - they are still friends — have a son — but lets say — they could be friends - but marriage just didn’t work Doc - yessss

dryfish wetfish redfish bluefish

hi ocdoc are you a doctor

yup

what type

Occupational and Environmental Medicine

returned what — we got wetfish/redfish

trivia time … what literary character’s family motto was “Desdechado” what does it mean? and what was the heraldic device on his shield

“Katie Rees, Miss Nevada USA, was officially replaced after scandalous photos of her hit the net.”

coat of arms the donald again?

http://wwww.tmz.com/2006/12/22/miss-nevada-replaced/

DOC — I don’t do trivia…

I dunno if combover-boy was involved two girls kissing, so what

Ivanhoe …. “Disinherited” and the coat of arms was an uprooted tree

I think it’s kind of homophobic plus it’s hot anyway

it’s not in the best tradition of beauty queens

where can i find good political audio files to help me understand more…lectures or pundits or whatever…anyone?

I think Trump would feel better if he got a new wig

fox news website

seriously. i watched cspan for 3 hours last night

MSNBC?

coldstare — forget cspan — concentrate on what you WANT to know about - and get a variety

you would do much better reading instead of listening and watching

i want to know about everything and it turned out to be a pretty fascinating experience first i discovered many nuances to an israeli’s position on the war in iraq

coldstare — everything?? ohhh my that could take time

nuance

sup US_Male

and then i heard a discussion with an ex-cia operative (he quit in 2003 in disagreement with bush)

the federalist papers are great reading…

read “The New Republic” and “Reason” magazine for starters

im eating a reese peanut butter cup yall its good

yum

been in the freezer

oh hubby made peanut brittle tonight — is good stuff!

oh shutup

well im lookin more for downloadable audio files to save my eyes

now i want some

illiteracy is a terrible thing to waste

alt.binaries.audiobooks (if you have good usenet access)

I want some pie and I want it NOW brb

sup — well too bad!

not a bad idea, i suppose, WyldOcsar

ok doc

The “nuance” of CSpan

Wyld - that works ok IF audiobooks has them

true kaliuna

Wyld - have a friend who is blind — up in IA — he says a lot of books are not in audio … Wyld - so he uses one of those new programs that read things — works pretty good

ive tried them and they sound kind of robotic, but i bet you get used to them at&t natural voice

test to speech software isnt bad. text

coldstare — they work when you are tired of reading yourself and they have new programs that don’t quite have robotic sound

if people can understand stephen hawking…

coldstare — he’s good!

knock it off fart knocker

sup — be nice

let me see you let me see you go back back forth n forth throw yo hands in the air and wave em like u just dont care now let me see you go back n forth

wind it up

back back forth n forth

can he wind you up?

quit it — aaliyah-

im singing now can you feel thegrove hey i wanna keep this party goin on

the lonely goatherd

the dj keeps the music moving keep on movin dont stop moving now let me see you go back n forth im just trying to get a disucssion going along

I like to move it move it

Doc — hmm dunno — looking around for some ops…

i mean i wouldnt be doing this if people were talking about something but why not sing in a chan thats not very active?

aaliyah- - we were talking til YOU interrupted

love me babe love me babe -4x- boy you dont know what you do to me

see, it has to do with the direction that entropy moves along in entropy tends to INCREASE in the case of this channel, entropy is increased by kicking random elements

MERRY - Christmas — happy holiday HI L0c0

i hate this router….

what would u do

hey Kaliuna

to get to me would you give up try again hestitate to let you in

Nothing to talk about, Democrats won the US election, all is right in the world again, cept for that pesky Bush fella

if first you dont sucess you can dust it off and try again dust yourself off

try try again

and try again

aaliyah is rotting in the ground.

yeah, that WAS a close call

Or did she get cremated?

Darth - and they are already having major malfunctions — Dems

things were looking grim there for a while until the Democrats took over again

Shes buried at ferncliff cemetery….hartsdale

DENVER — airport will not be fully operational til Sunday

oh, wait … they haven’t taken back over again yet

i blame clinton

yawn … okay, I gotta hit the rack … nytol naw, everyone knows to blame Bush

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