11.26.07

i have to ask where do we draw the line though I understand that a lot of what has been granted is what the collective

Posted in Politics at 6:19 pm by Michael Johnson

so the mini-Elvis dude lost his job?

you are not katey

yeah

3Josephs naw, this is his successor

just whois me it’s easy

o

lol

the real me is in VA the fake me is some cracker in FL

ok you are katey

so who are you woman!

thats what i meant to say

heh

Katey is ~Katey@pool-71-251-81-62.tampfl.fios.verizon.net * Katey Katey on +#politics #al-Qaeda

mmm mmm mmm mmm

Katey- is ~Katey@c-24-30-246-54.hsd1.va.comcast.net * Katey Katey- on +#politics #politix #atheism

once there was this girl who wouldn’t go and change with the girls in the chance room

hmm, 6 weeks from today is fun day

but then they finally made her , they saw, birthmarks all over her body

3Josephs election day?

si

mmm mmmm mmmm mmmm

this one time in band camp?

mmmm mmmm mmm mm

the democrats are gonna be soooooooooo friggin upset lol

Herzen, oh hell. what was the name of that band?

they honestly think they are going to win haha ;p

do do do

that guy’s affected vocal style so annoyed me

Crash Test Dummies i like him The Superman song they did was better

once there was this kid who… took a trip to singapore and brought along his spray paint and when… he finally came back… he had… cane marks all over his bottom…

ack. I didn’t care for them

mmm mmm mmm mmmm yes the weird al one was better the original was just retarded

hey kate, supe had a straight job, even though he could have smashed into any bank in the United States do do do

a da da

Tarzan was king of the jungle and lord over all the apesss do do do do, but he could hardly string together four words, i tarzan you jane

ok thats enuff

I Publius

I liked the Flaming Lips superman song better

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - A noted political scientist joined one of Sen. George Allen’s former college football teammates in claiming the senator used a racial slur to refer to blacks in the early 1970s, a claim Allen dismisses as “ludicrously false.” Sabato’s assertion came on the heels of accusations by Dr. Ken Shelton, a radiologist who was a tight end and wide receiver for the University of Virginia in the early 1970s when Allen was quarte

denmark sux!

Larry Sabato? He’s a pretty credible person

oh fuck

those stories about Allen have circulated for a long time

he used a racial slur, in the locker room, in the 1970s so lets crucify him! silly

Herzen yes! now!

Herzen, well you need to look at the context He’s had a fascination for Confederate stuff for a long time

whats the context?

got into trouble for calling some kid ‘macaca’ on his campaign

Hes from VA, waht do you expect

HAHA

Herzen, no he’s not he’s from CA all that good ole boy crap is just affect

Err why the hell is the story from VA then

its got an “A” in it - close enough

im from connecticut, but i’ve lived in georgia for 16 years big deal im “from georgia’

Publius, you grew up there Allen grew up in CA

he’s a senator in VA?

he’s not from VA

or govenor whatever

yes. he lives here now

how long?

since college I think

thats good enough

Oh Allen is a republican that explains these claims

it’s not a matter of good or bad enough

Herzen hahaha

i think what we should do is find all the people who like to use racial slurs and are fascinated with confederate symbology, and put them in high office

it just is

naw, thats good enough

they obviously are the ones we should have as our leaders

How do you know he has had a fascination with the conderacy .. and even *if* he has .. so what? byrd was in the KKK he gets up and uses the *n* word in public recently .. not 40 years ago

CometBaby, it’s just context this is Katey, btw comet

pucca .. why does it matter now? oh okay why the change in nick?

context meaning “is he a Dem?”

Okay so let me get this right

Herzen he is also one of the top republican presidential candidates note

CometBaby, because someone in here has mine

i think byrd is an idiot too, i am fair about it

what does it matter? I guess it matters to people who find that stuff offensive doesn’t matter at all to others

okay change your nick

lol

CometBaby, there’s another one

there’s also this one Katey is ~Katey@pool-71-251-81-62.tampfl.fios.verizon.net * Katey Katey on +#politics #al-Qaeda

George Allen MAY or MAY NOT have used a racial slur in the locker room in the 70s. He also is interested in the civil war. He is also claimed to have called someone a ‘mucaca’ (a monkey?).

thats the asshole webu

Herzen, not interested in the civil war

katey you pissed him off too? lol

CometBaby, I don’t think so Webulite is in NH er NJ this person is in FL

katey he uses open proxies

Katey__, god damnit Katey stop using weird nicks coz u confuse me then i attack u

lol

herzen .. lol. I was winding up too

what did you do to make someone dislike you so much?

zaw .. exist?

Weren’t you shitlisted the other day Zaw?

webu was in here saying that american women were cunts .. she may have objected.

lol how dare she!

yes, i made the mistake of speaking.

you should have known better than that

Zaw, well when the only thing that comes out of your mouth is feces I can understand why that mistake would get you banned

Zaw .. lol. Let that be a lesson to you

lol

eh. Webulite is always trolling

CometFuhrer is always watching! *duck*

who even knows what that person’s real views on anything are

hehehe

katey .. its not trolling. He really believes that shit. Also, he is obsessed with religion.

CometBaby, eh he’ll say one thing at one time and then at another time and in a different channel will advocate the opposite

he was in here yesterday as TheHammer .. he didn’t think I knew it was him.

if i called someone with dark skin from the opposing team a n*gg*r and then acted all surprised when they got offended, and claimed i didn’t know what the word meant and i just made it up, would anyone believe me?

TORONTO — Liberal MP Belinda Stronach has wound up in the middle of the nasty divorce of hockey tough guy Tie Domi, with court documents filed by the former NHL player’s estranged wife alleging that her husband’s greatest concern is that Stronach not be dragged into the dispute.

he is looking forward to an *october surprise*

CometBaby haha is that when Bush declares marshal law?

In the application, filed Sept. 18, the day before Tie Domi announced his retirement from the NHL, she alleges her husband’s “intimate sexual relationship” with Stronach caused their marriage to deteriorate as well as his relationship with their three children.

thats the next terrorist attack

Belinda Stronach, Home Wrecker.

CometBaby I was thinking that. I’ve been hearing for like 6 months now that Bush is going to declare marshall law in october…and blah blah….do you think it is a terrorist attack instead?

pub yes. The islamists have said that a new attack is just around the corner. and if the dems get their way .. we won’t be able to monitor their phone calls .. so they may be successful.

we should all hope there’s another attack then? so the democrats don’t take back congress?

then the dems will blame bush

what excuse did Julius Caesar use to kill the Roman republic?

CometBaby well the dems are not going to kill the NSA wiretap thing…as far as I have seen..any dem who has actually seen what the program does…shuts up

I can’t believe Pinnacle is sending me offers to upgrade their software. It is a total piece of crap. I paid a fortune for it and got so frustrated I uninstalled it. sent them a nasty letter

CometBaby is an 82 year old granny who sends mean letters to companies shes upset with

LOL

“Dear fox, stop portraying old people on your shows as energetic and vibrant, because we aren’t!”

pub well the latest move is that it is *we don’t oppose it anymore .. just that it is illegal and the president needs to give up his presidential rights and beg FISA for permission first” in other words .. inhibit their ability to do it tie it up in the courts

CometBaby yeah…i don’t understand the dems a lot. they live in a world that is purely political….no accounting for reality… why?

until the moment of opportunity passes

i have to ask, where do we draw the line though? I understand that a lot of what has been granted is what the collective law enforcement agencies have asked for forever. So we say we are strengthening the intelligence apparatus by allowing wire taps, but at what point do we cross the line between a “democracy” and a police state?

you only have a *window* of opportunity in these things

We are nowhere near a police state dude

the USA has already crossed it

get your head out of your ass…good lord…

no, we aren’t

lol Mad oh lol sorry

but i’m asking what will be too far

MadScribe .. we are so far away from that. I am not concerned about that. I am concerned about staying alive right now.

exactly

you need to get your priorities in order

CometBaby yeah…but it appears as if the dems..don’t even care about actually dealing with the terrorist threat…all they care about is pure political gain…

if you think i’m sexy and you want my body come on honey let me know do do do

it seems we are doing a lot lately, to “stay alive” and i just question (as all should) which of these things will come back to haunt us

would you rather have your phone tapped? Or would you rather have your wife and child be forced to adapt to islam?

i’ve studied this…for about a year now…pretty in depth CometBaby hell it isn’t even being forced to convert to islam…it is being forced to live some warped fascist islam

publius it is very sad, and very dangerous, that they are using national security as a political issue

I don’t know… would I get to beat my wife, and make her wear a veil in public… doesn’t sound bad to me. *wink*

LOL

playing politics with our safety

CometBaby why? CometBaby why are they doing that? how did it get to this point

The problem is even when something is good and both sides agree that it is good, either side may stop it to keep the other side from gaining political points.

publius they lost the election

take a larger view, don’t just study what has happened in the last 2 or three years, study what has occurred through all of human history

they lost the house they lost the senate

laggy

they are filled with hatred its only a legal and fair election if they win

Do you really think the Rep are going to lose seats in the next election?

Madscribe of course

midterm elections, the party of hte President almost always loses seats

Soccer mom’s are still real concerned with terrorism… even though they are more likely to be struck by lightning.

dareth, well I know there have been any number of phony polls to indicate that .. but the polls change rapidly. The economy is sailing along and dems know that is bad for them.

Nobody would accept the government spending like this for lightning rods… there would be outrage.

CometBaby were they like this in the 80s? how did they act when they had congress?

good news for america is bad news for the left

CometBaby, if Bin Laden actually is dead, it will seal this election for the Republicans

We need a good race issue to surface in the US. Let the Dem pretend they care about minorities.

they’ve done that for a few decades it consistently works this particular discussion steals all the joy at Christmas when someone accidently starts this debate with me

summer is already over, so too late for riots this year

lol

oi, troops stuck till Feb. so glad i didn’t listen to my father and sign up for the reserve (well before 9/11)

i turn my back for one minute and the channel degenerates into utter stupidity, without me here to enjoy it

yes, you maintain the sanity

no, i enjoy the insanity

you sound like Ann Coulter

ann coulter is cute but looks like she has an eating disorder shes not healthy and ukrainian

Ann Coulter has a thinking disorder

Ann Coulter isn’t cute

ann coulter is a stupid bitch, people only put her on tv because she’s like one of those trained monkeys that claps the cimbals

well shes not on the top of my list for conservative intellectuals anyways

and what of Rush Limbaugh?

Ann Coulter is a very skilled and very cunning liar & propagandist

hes pretty unhealthy too what with the drugs and all

she has to do drugs just to live with herself

Coulter could probably be fairly successful on talk radio

she has taken “political whore” to a whole new level

like Rush or Savage etc

yeah radio would be a better medium for that

Coulter would do radio if she thought she was up to it - but her method relies on her not having to answer to her critics

Bob Rae is going to win the Liberal leadership in Canada it will cement Stephen Harper and the Conservative Party in power for the next 10 years

Herzen who is Rae? why?

Rae is a former premier of Ontario he bankrupted the province and many Ontarians hate him which means Conservatives would sweep most of on Ontario (outside of Toronto)

ah

so for that reason I hope he wins

herzen yeah all the homosexuals and immigrants will vote for him

doe rae mee fah soe law tee doe

td`, thats basically toronto

doh

if you told a new immigrant family what he Rae did when he was premier.. theyd be like I DONT CARE!, I VOTE LIB!

and I don’t see Bob Rae really appealing to Quebec

Stephen Harper is a nice guy!

time to take the short people to school.

on the short bus?

nah in her soccer mom minivan

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The Earth’s rapid warming has pushed temperatures to their hottest level in nearly 12,000 years and within a hairbreadth of a million years, a study by the US space agency showed. wonder what is causing that

must be george bush

some republicans told me the earth was cooling and ice sheets were thickening based on “their sources”

well scientists dont know everything climate science is just a theory after all, they cant even tell you whether it will rain tomorrow so burn all the fuel you want it is good for america

jesus would want us to drive cars

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she did not support a gasoline embargo on Iran as a way of punishing Tehran for refusing to give up its uranium enrichment program. interesting i guess you could embargo all their other valuable exports

If you don’t believe me? deuteronomy 18:18

NEW YORK (Reusters) - U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she did not support calls for Al Gore to be henceforth referred to as “poopy pants”; she added, “though I do agree with the sentiment.”

C’est la vie

http://users.vnet.net/timmywt/pics/Letter.jpg

i’ll stick to my favourite bible verse matthew 10:34 4 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a Jesus came not to bring peace.. but A SWORD!

td`, http://www.answering-islam.org/BibleCom/mt10-34.html

interesting interpretation 6 is good 6 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children,and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my you have to hate everyone , even yourself, to be a follower of Christ

td .. this is not #bible .. so stop citing the bible to us

thanks no more

bible is a powerful political argument

did you read this http://users.vnet.net/timmywt/pics/Letter.jpg ?

the bible is the word of god; it’s worth citing

only fundamentalists believe the bible is the literal word of god

The Bible is the source of all morality, it is the source of all Truth, and it is the source of American Law.

no, it isn’t nothing to do with american law

Melmoth = infidel heretic

Is British common law based on the Bible?

the source of american law is british law

Since American law is a variant of British colonial law.

and the source of british law was viking law completely pagan

Melmoth, omg u anti amerikan

Viking law states that the biggest Viking left alive wins. And that Trojans suck…

lies! Speak no more, or I shall be forced to re-classify you as a Witch!

frogzoo well some people do not believe sure, thats why there is so much ignorance in the world

e-Hernick: interesting that you think the bible is the source of american law, as that would directly contravene the 1st amendment

Viking was our school mascot. Not really.

durka durka

separation of church and state is as much to protect church from state as the other way around to make sure churches are free to church it up

Relgion played a big part in the moral life of early settlers. They were Puritanical.

without interference

But once the Baptist got setup, then it all went to hell.

dareth, the puritans were pretty funny.

if that were true, which it’s not, then the _church_ would advocate separation of church & state - curiously, this doesn’t happen

someone set us up the bomb

perhaps it does happen and you are just an idiot

Null_Ptr, your statement doesn’t make sense. Chuches would have nothing but gains to being part of the state.

amendments.. most of them unauthorized changes to the constitution passed by radical liberal elements..

You better thank Lord Cecil Calvert and Member of the Maryland House Burgess and my Grandfather Christopher Thomas for starting a part of the American Revelutionary War. :-)

if churches are part of the state then the state (ie elected officials) can potentially tell churches what to do and what not to do… the constitution puts churches on a higher plane by keeping them separate in that nobody can tell them what to do or establish any official version of things or dilute the holy truth

drop kick me jesus through the goalposts of life

actually, they are a bit more constrained when they’re a part of the state. can’t break the constitution, for example.

e-Hernick: umm… I think you’ll find the 1st amendment has been authorised, that’s my understanding

Melmoth, I don’t know where that argument would fit into the hypothetical, because in order for the church to be within the state we’d have to have a different culture and constitution.

i cant help it if you cant see the obvious holy truth

me thinks the main reason for congress shall establish no religion had a lot to do with forced tithes

I’m saying that for example when England forced people to go church and gave the church a crap ton of money, that it didn’t result in any substantial downside. At least so far as I know.

jelly donuts are tools of de debbil!

Sometimes people as me, who is the greatest threat to America, Al-Qaeda or Liberals? I have to answer: it’s the Liberals, stupid… Al-Qaeda only kills thousands every year, but Liberals massacre millions of babies, and they incite the american people to moral depravity, every single day. it’s the other way around. The Churches are meant to be beacons of constitutional power, and therefore, dictate morality to all citizens, and raise them to be rulers who embrace the principles of the church. It also should make sure that citizenss who do not embrace the church, will not be allowed to rule.

jesus is not confused on this point like you are he knows the way and will show you if you let him

if the church felt the contagion of the state would contaminate their purity, it’s up to them to prohibit contact with the state, it doesn’t make sense that the state’s prohibition is there for the church’s protection

God made carrots the devil made carrot cake

it does to me, you’re just blinded

Let’s quote some Jack Chick.

mm carrot cake

who lives in a pineapple under the sea…

more cookies ?

yes please

DeDannan, SQUARE BOB SPONGE PANTS. Said the dyslexic.

chocolate chip would be good

Separation of church and state was meant to protect the church from the state, not the other way around.

dareth EXACTLY

It was considered that religion was good and pure, politics bad.

http://www.chick.com/newseries.asp?wpc=newseries.asp&wpp=a

conservatives fear hillary more than the devil bwahahaha

i think hillary being elected might bring more people to jesus

The Devil doesn’t PMS one week out of the month

sometimes it takes a shock to bring someone to the light

Hillary is like a lesbian devil ++ungood!

wot 4 weeks

Hillary being elected would make me lose even more hope in this country, which may not be possible.

I think Hillary would be slightly better than Jeb Bush.

Hillary is a Demonocrat.

I would have to vote for that red headed Dem… what is his name… h mm… Gephardt before Hillary.

Jeb shouldn’t be in public office due to his name alone.

Also known as a Demon Rat

Hillary would as good as having Bill but without Monica

Hillary will probably be caught being pleasured by male interns

not male interns…

e-Hernick: they never caught Bill

Probably much prettier female interns than Bill had…. and it wont be a simple cigar she is using.

of course they did

e-Hernick: they hauled out Monica’s dress & DNA tested it ffs

as it should be

kerry wants to send 5k more troops to afghanstan”hell no we wont go,we wont fight your stinking war”

It was claimed that the blue dress with the stain was worth maybe half a million dollars.

such crimes warrant the full attention of the state intelligence apparatus

oh dear…

Must be dozens of backseats in Arkansas with some of good ole Bill juice left on it. Kerry is on the flip side… wait for the flop.

J.F. Kerry for the lose!

If Kerry loses another election, he will have to be painted black and hid in an old folks home in Texas!

kerry kerry quite contrary how does your garden grown

Kerry can easily be elected to a Boston Assembly of Council Sub-selectman “Greetings, sub-selectman Kerry!”

http://moonbatmedia.com/blog/?p=9

He could get lots of votes by giving away some of his wife’s ketchup.

don’t really see how Hillary can run - she’d be a hard sell in the south

I heard it on the news recently.. If Hillary wins, she’ll polarize America’s mainstream voters, that is the Christian Right, more than if the Devil himself ran.

the ego of men like kerry to stab us in the back in Iraq but expect loyalty to him in Afghanistan.

Iranian human rights activist protests about the anti-war support for Iranian Islamists. Him and his friend Shiva Mahbobi are forcefully removed by STW’s Ghada Razuki and other stewards http://moonbatmedia.com/time_to_go_230906/rezamoradi.html

e-Hernick: the christian right feel that strongly about a woman president ?

Just Hilary. Condi could get a few percentage points running…

can anyone do me a favor and answer 5 questions for me

Best showing of an African American, much less female.

ClipSet, no.

Clip… yes, no, certainly, maybe, and WTF

e-Hernick, yeah, they mentioned that on the news, but I wouldnt worry - they arent a threat

There are the answers, use them as needed.

4 to go

substitute “i think so, maybe not” where applicable.

Ask questions 1 at a time, we all have opinions..

I agree, the democRats are no threat to America, they will never win again.

e-Hernick, we’ll see

America has forever been disillusioned with the liberal demonrat menace and has seized the opportunity to deny them any further control of the presidency, as has been commanded by God.

Could Hillary ride a VP ticket?? Would she help or hurt?

Hilary as VP would be a shoe in for whoever however, her feminist agenda’s not served by playing support to a male nominee

dareth, we have the alleged son of a Nazi holding dual citizenship in Austria and the USA Governating California. Anything on the political lawn is possibe.

arnie’s pop was Nazi ?

Sure it is, them women can hope the guy dies. Need old guy like Lieberman. *wink*

Hillary would take the northeastern primaries,but as soon as it went south and west they would rip the red carpet out from under her feet.

Or send him hunting with Cheney…

so sez the mud slinging set

exactly, and Hillary knows it

She wasn’t exactly welcome in all those NY parades eh?

Bill does as well

there’ll be bluebirds over the white cliffs of dover tomorrow when the world is free

it all depends how badly Bush does from here on in - if he becomes really REALLY unpopular, Hillary will run

i think i will dress up as ahnold Shrunkenpecker on halloween

There is that midwestern guy… he has a real chance… trying to think of his name.

conservatives are not happy with Bush..but you dont want to know what they think of leftist democrats.

A conservative canidate from either party would be welcome about now.

http://www.arnoldexposed.com/arnold.htm

the conservatives’ hatred of the democrates pretty much defines them

And vice versa. That’s why the parties suck.

frogzoo its all based on specific issues..not a popularity contest though

the US’s first past the post for the white house system is adversarial by design if not intent

“What we did in the eight months was at least as aggressive as what the Clinton administration did in the preceding years,” Rice told the New York Post.

frogzoo, but two parties who define themselves by not being the other party and not much else? That’s just crappy.

well, if what some Republicans contend is true, that Clinton did nothing, i guess they’ll support, according to what Rice says, the bush administration did nothing as well b/c 0 x 0 = 0

L0c0, nice of her to finally admit it

and that there is politics for ya

it’s a consequence of the crazy US voting system

his father, Gustav, was a Gestapo officer who joined Nazi party when the party was illegal in Austria.

the wrong person getting elected?

I am sick of this clinton/bush garbage over 9 11 really..it took a 9 11 and will probably take a few more to wake this generation up

no, the fact that 3rd parties don’t get a look in if the US electoral system was preferential, a third party could occupy the middle ground, & would force the dems & reps to get closer to centre

they say Bush created more terrorism going to iraq etc..but really europe should thank God he kicked the hornets nest now,,before it was too late for them

europe doesnt believe in God anymore jihad jihad

Bush has radicalised the ME in a way that’s incredibly dangerous & entirely unnecessary

ok they should thank the great pumpkin

ah.. I just realized something.. the sign “MORANS GO HOME” is actually more clever than it sounds… MORANS is an anagram of ROMANS…

so this is like, dyslexic romans go home ?

no, it’s a punagram with ROMANS and MORONS

frogzoo no this has been building up for a half a century,,it was coming our way period

name a female rolemodel

margaret thatcher

i was thinking the same

wake this generation up?

Wake the generatio!

that’s the one thing Democrats and Republicans agree on: keep the 3rd party out

we need to be woken up - to the problems our government has been creating in the ME

so is this the new democrat campaign slogan..if you fight them more will come

well this new report…that we’ve further pissed off militants

that’s silly - you’re suggesting that no matter how the west engages arab street, it will be hated - that’s just crazy

that’s no surprise does it mean we’re less safe? id unno

Paris Hilton is close to signing a deal to promote Ecoist.com, an eco-friendly accessories company, but the execs at the company are getting a tad nervous about the prospect of trotting out the heiress as a spokeswoman.

i think the terrorists are using our occupation of Iraq as a motivating factor to get people to join them

Ecoist is hoping that Paris will join them in October on a trip to Port-Au-Prince to plant more than 40,000 trees,” a source says. “But when she was told about the trip, Paris had no idea where Haiti was. When she was told that they speak French there [along with Creole], she said, ‘I wouldn’t mind spending a few days there and the weekend in Paris.”

frogzoo i wish it were

she’s sure to put her jimmy choo’s in her mouth

the extremists are in a minority, but bush seems intent on driving the rest of the muslim world into their camp

willie nelson for govenator of texas! http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0922061willie1.html his dope stash!

L0c0, along with other things FEMA_, NO! Kinky Friedman!

Kinkie Friedman for guv !!! heh..

LocaO they are afghanistan as well..anywhere direction we go after them..they will attempt to run us out

either one would be kool with me

Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jewboys!

oiy vey!

pardner

please don’t let ClitDum head the UN

come on sure islam would want us to fear to enter their back yards..while they pick us off like ducks in ours if democrats think they would not have seen a backlash out of afghanstan the same as iraq..they are naive.

binda, best to just kill em all, huh?

its not a hard concept to grasp. imagine somebody came into the US and said “ok, we’re gonna change your government because we feel this other form is better for you” people aren’t gonna just sit back and take it, they will fight back

compdoc best to stop giving aid and comfort to the extremists

that’s just the nature of people…they don’t like being told what to do hehe

binda, you mean stop supporting Israel? I agree

compdoc..give them the Jews and they wont harm you? did that work for y’all with Hitler

“Well, we’ve made the decision to defeat the terrorists abroad so we don’t have to face them here at home. And when you engage the terrorists abroad, it causes activity and action.”—Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005

Dem Rangel Promises To Cut Off Funding For War In Iraq If Dems Win House…!!!!!

that sweet an nice

no you tried that before,then out came the long knives

DeDannan I just don’t see that as a valid claim

KoBushi, which?

DeDannan that taking action abroad prevents terrorism here

KoBushi, well..thats what Dubya said

binda, we’ve been screwing with the ppl in the ME for decades. this crap about having done nothing to them is just that - crap

its not a hard concept to grasp. imagine somebody came into the US and said “ok, we’re g

binda, that isn’t even close to reality

you’ve seen Lawrence of Arabia ?

lawrence….lawrence of arabia… he’s an english guy…

binda, L0c0 will never tell you that the Iraqi’s are GRATEFUL we are there.

the islamic extremists dont care about Iraq as with all moderates in the middle east..road kill

he came to fight the turkish…

we’re creating these ‘extremists’ you keep babbling about

compdoc, how so? compdoc, we are creating murderers? We create groups to go out and not kill Americans, but Iraqi’s? compdoc, do we have beheading training camps someewhere I didn’t know about?

Ive been saying it all along - and have been called a liar and even devoiced for saying it. Now our military is even saying it out loud - we should not be in Iraq

compdoc ok then..lets say the right wing demands a policy change amoung democrats and if you dont..they will use violence..and if you attempt to stop it..you will only create more of them?

I’m sure the Iraqi’s are entirely grateful to the US for the looming prospect of a very nasty civil war

compdoc, show a quote from the Pentagon that says we shouldn’t be there.

you kill innocent ppl - and you create enemies. just ask Israel

frogzoo, there isn’t a civil war, so you can stop your predictions now.

they are no innocent

also, the Iraqis were entirely impressed at the way the US, after destroying infrastructure, left it to rust

and thinking we can install a government in the ME is the biggest blunder Bush could have made

There is no action or inaction which fails to create enemies… yu can’t please everyone in the world… especially when you are the world’s most influential nation

frogzoo, you and the rest of the left have been predicting civil war in Iraq for years, yet it hasn’t happened.

they’re killing 100/day in Iraq - that’s 3,000 /month - if it’s not a civil war yet it will be

the seed of these islamic extremists males are of more value than ours..when pigs fly

People will blame the big guy on the block for thier social problms they have caused themselves

frogzoo, we have been rebuilding infrastructure in Iraq for years WITH the Iraqi’s. frogzoo, do the math, 3000 out of 26 million is what %?

so it ok to invade and do what we want, and kill who we want, because we’re going to create enemies anyway?

took a year to have the electricity & water back on - and MANY were really pissed about it

frogzoo, the infrastructure of Iraq was rotting away when we got there.

lies

frogzoo, much of Iraq that never had water, now has it.

you don’t understand - electricity & water are basic services

frogzoo, stable electricity is more available now than ever.

source ?

as soon as a man says its for the children..you know he is up to no good

frogzoo, we are bringing them NEW infrastructure, and we are building it WITH Iraqi’s.

source ?

frogzoo, start at army.mil

oh please

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/pfjunkie/DUH4.jpg well…i’m off to work blah

frogzoo, do a search on ‘building schools in Iraq”

I’m not the one making these extravagant unsubstantiated claims

frogzoo, I don’t have to do your research, private donations from central Texas alone sent 9600 blackboards to Iraq 3 years ago

I don’t believe they’re rebuilding the infrastructure, for the very fact they can’t guarantee foreigners’ safety

frogzoo, that is outside the infrastructure rebuilding.

we probably wouldnt need more troops in afghanistan as kerry says..if men like him wouldnt have cried cut and run in dealing with the tactics being used in iraq.

saddam sucked, but we created saddam. and we allowed him to kill off the resistance that we encourged to rise up in the first gulf war. how many ppl did he kill because of the US? and how many did we kill in removing him? yeah, its not us - its them

frogzoo, what you believe isn’t really the issue, you obviously aren’t smart enough to find the information, or you would know that is exactly what is happening,, a rebuilding of Iraq. compdoc, no, we didn’t ‘create’ Saddam

don’t come the raw prawn with me pal - I’m smart enough to know you’re blowing it out your rear

A school in Norway, the female principal is trying to make all boys sit down to pee Which is fucked

and you know why Iran will get nuclear warheads..its all in the name.. I-Ran

ages 6 to 14

you really should learn something before you speak

Herzen … wha?

frogzoo, read about the Army Corps of engineers in Iraq

KoBushi, aparently

frogzoo, 1000’s of projects have been completed.

they’re rebuilding it a little bit faster than the bad guys can blow it up

compdoc the US didn’t create Saddam, however it is true that the US made a lot of bad policy decisions during the cold war, such as encouraging the 8 years war, and many other small examples…

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