11.27.07
let me ask you any of you whining over bush sending the troops to the gulf are any of you or do any of you have
i think a man on a horse will shoot the rope and he and saddam will escape on horseback
BillFrugg hey, if it worked for apple 
BillFrugg, that was Apple’s idea
hahahahah killja_ no, i think a different movie is more appropriate.. Hang’em High have a good old fashioned town hanging.. kids singing songs.. drinking sasparilla and eating rock candy.. women singing Rock of Ages..
its not he thing about the money per se, the stockholders.. They place thier faith in the ceos and the coos etc.. And if the managment doesnt realize thier obligation to the stockholders because of thier own wealth and personal desires. they are betraying the trust of the stockholders and harming them.. And again when a product makes a fortune, and people get rich then society just got something it either LOVES or NEEDS…
You know. I am not against him dying at all, I do think it’s a little Ironic all the people pissed at him because of all the people he *killed* eagerly awaiting his own *death*
the iPod is a great example of a great idea..
More of a shits n giggles kind of thing
its made apple a ton of money and its stock holders.
about the only thing that saved them really
So Greed is good. only I dont define greed in the same way others do literally greed is bad.
I just think about all the other people cheated because they won’t have the opportunity to execute him for his other crimes
I mean it’s kind of like, if someone in my family died at the hands of someone else, I would be fine with the death penalty
but to me its more greedy for Msft to spend billions in africa on aids patients wiht no economic advantage, thats the greed of the ceos. and the board
I also wouldn’t have my alarm clock counting down the hours
dc|web, but he is executed for someone else’s death, not for your family
But if they produce goods or services which are revolutionary and make a breakthrough and a TON Of money its not greed they just discovered something which benefits man a lot Msot likely
FreeTra5w well apple acheived whats considered the holy grail of marketing, establishing a cult like following. I was watching a show about it, also Volkswagon pulled the same thing. People spend MILLIONS trying to figure out how Apple and VW’s marketing plans work
You take your money, your profits and income and invest it in africa.
I know, I’m saying it’s funny all the people in America that have no relation to anyone in Iraq that had nobody die by his hands are so eager about his death
how is helping AIDS patients in Africa greedy?
You dont take the companies.
Again, not saying he shouldn’t die
not unless you are going to profit off it Because of the fiduciary relationship to the stockholder.
Just saying, why are so many ppl that had nothing to do with him or Iraq foaming at the mouth over the countdown to his hanging?
in fact to become a public corporation they should take a fiduciary oath and sign it.
dc|web, I’m actually with you. I have my concerns about the whole thing
Again, just a silly ironic thing If you have someone in your family that was killed by Saddam’s rule, fine If not
It’s the next stage in the game — just want to get it over, I guess
Go do something Go watch TV, rent a movie
ft can i msg you hun
“official hanging witnesses have gathered in the green zone”
Which acknowleges that its trust with its stock holders is a sacred trust of the deepest kinds and to harm them by pursuing selfish goals vs money making goals is a vioaltion of that trust
what do you guys think about this
people rave about vw engineering and a host of other reasons why they are loyal customers for life. it just aint true. they are as likely to have bad model years as any other company. It’s all to do with a highly succesful marketing campaign that people try to figure out that develops companies cult followings
Personally, I could give a shit what happens to Saddam. His life has had 0 effect on me. It’s up to the Iraqis
the white zone is for loading and unloading passengers, the green zone is for executions… Please do not park in the yellow zone
oh i dont care im wondering if this will change how ppl act over there
his death could have an effect over here
Unlike the ppl that swallow the load of crap about 9/11 ’s connection to Iraq or vise versa, Saddam being dead the next 50 years or alive has little to 0 impact on my life
well.. there is some truth that germany style vehicles are different than american or japanese
Yeah, I’m sure there will be peace in Iraq after Saddam is hung… (not)
ba’ath party is threatening the US if Iraq executes Saddam, accusing the Iraqi government of being a puppet
BillFrugg damn it, you almost made me spew coke on my keyboard
Lupine I was just talking to a friend and this thought came to me. Actually its a tragedy that he harmed so many people and did so much evil to soo many people. Its a good time to reflect on the sadness of what he did with his life rather than the joy of ending it.. Actually its a tragedy that he harmed so many people and did so much evil to soo many people. Its a good time to reflect on the sadness of what he did with his life rather than the joy of ending it.. Even though it must be ended for justice to prevaill
I’d rather watch the YouTube video.
But people might take the time and think of all his victims and sort of feel sad for them.. MrRod heh
Justice indeed. However it should have been Iraqis themselves to overthrow Saddam and work out a new order for their country
Iraqi TV is showing video of his crimes in preparation for the execution
FreeTra5w I am thinking of all the surviving victims and relatives, who have justice snatched from them.. as they can not partake.
dc|web, it should have been germans who stopped hitler and opened the concentration camp gates
hey, it’s like a double date! Republicans can mourn Ford, and the Dems can mourn Saddam
It should have been Iraqis pulling Saddam out of his little spider hole pssing himself Not U.S. soldiers
it OUGHT to be televised live in iraq, so that they can know truely in their hearts his reign of terror is over.
Agree dc|web.
It should have been Germans feeding and caring for jews who were in the holocaust and not americans.
Germans? So many of them thought Hitler was doing the right thing for Germany.
BillFrugg lol
Norway you agree with me too ?
it should have also been the jews willing to stand up and defend themselves.
but it was Iraqis that pointed out where Saddam was hiding
It should have been, but it was a different time, a different place
I think most Iraqees feel it’s more terror in Iraq now than in a long time.. So much for forced “democracy”
but what if the germans didnt want to feed them jews?
Should have been europeans stopping the ethnic cleansing in Serbia instead of Americans ?!@?
should you just let them die? is that humane?
There was no reason for us to charge into Iraq to do the things that *they* should have done themselves
it should have been the french driving the Nazi’s out of France
I love the way europe loves us to do their killing when they want it. but god forbid we act in our own self interest
The French participated in that.
Soylent Green, Groobile?
Thats the thing FT Bush has still failed to this day to try to prove How Iraq was in OUR best interest
It’s all about oil.. That’s why there was no plan of getting peace in Iraq, at least not a working plan…
The French also continued to fight the Nazis after the British escaped to England.
dc, he doesnt have to.
That it was a *national defense*
Intelligent educated people understand it.
well nazi’s put out plenty of believable propaganda showing how the jews were sucking up all of the german peoples wealth
I dont understand
Oh? You mean the flawed intel
If you want to extract oil you need peace.
we dont need to be told why.. I knew why before Bush ever ordered troops over there. I dont care about the intel what isnt flawed is this
He does have to FT when over 3K of our men and women have died over there
HE DID HAVE WMD… and he planned on getting it AGAIN
Groobile, “but what if the germans didnt want to feed them jews?” — I read it funny
oh really
So whethe ror not he snuck it out of hte country
Even more so if he puts a proposal of more troops back over there for the future
incinerated it in the last month
hm, ok
a sick joke
or didnt have it it makes not a bit of difference to me…
Say something about Zionists.
Bush can go ahead and decide *if he does* to throw more troops and money at Iraq and hope that works
First of all DC Lets get some reality Bush never went in solely on the wmd
Jesus, people still think Saddam had WMDs?
that was the press and the political enemies who emphasized that
mrrod im talking about the gulf wars i will not comment about my opinion cus i wont be nice
Bush gave about a dozen reasons
ft knows where i stand on this
Of course. Though that isn’t what he sold originally
wmd was simply the basis of the UN Sanctions No originally he didnt sell the wmd idea
this dead horse hasnt been beaten quite enough.
t0t yep
Yeah Bush had many reasons. WMD, the Al Quida connection…
What was sold originally was WMD’s in the hands of Saddam *possibly nuclear* would be in OUR best interest to go in and get rid of
bud`: There’s still life in it.
US policy under Bill Clinton was regime change
THAT is how Iraq was *originally* sold
Bush had about 10 reasons to go after saddam but he has one reason the UN was interested in because the UN SAID THAT HE HAD WMD not Bush not america The UN Said he had WMD
It’s nearly 2007 and people still think Saddam had WMDs and Al Qaeda ties.. Probably people who still think Schaivo is alive and well
So did Arab neighbors
No. What was said is that Saddam SOUGHT WMDs
so did our european allies so did Israel
Well, it was a fact that Iraq HAD WMD. The states sold it to Saddam, so he could use it in the war against Iran.
let me ask you any of you whining over bush sending the troops to the gulf … are any of you or do any of you have family in the military or overthere?
No actually Germany sold them 50%
do you t0tgiglz?
America sold them 2.5%
lol
And illegally
“chicken hawk” card
France sold about 10% Russia sold a lot
Damn it! If you aren’t IN the military or have military family in Iraq then shut up!
as for Al Qaeda ties, that connection was made AFTER we removed Saddam Hussein, in his own paperwork!
Lame
legal schmegeal begeal
yes i did my ex husband i was a military wife through the first guld war debris and you know it so dont start talking shit to me
*cough* Cattle anthrax lines are NOT “WMD”
i lived it
I love it when repubs pull that chicken hawk shit
Germans built Saddam’s luxury bunkers. Same company that built Hiter’s bunkers.
T0t knows and has first hand experience with the gulf..
no t0tgiglz, you never said what it was that made you so upset i just know you were upset when i mentioned it
and my ex has VOLUNTEERED to go back to the gulf 3 times
i’m sorry
MrRod, actually though its true the USA provided Saddam with 2.5% best estimate of materials which could be used for wmd.
your ex isn’t too bright, t0t.
germany sold them 50% France sold a lot. Russia sold a lot uk even sold more than we did
I get tired of flag-waving patriots chirping off thier pirch yelling how nobody can criticize Iraq or Bush policy over in Iraq because damn it, they served, and we didn’t! Or, they have family that did
Got to wonder why the Germans didn’t want the US going in.
yeah well player theres those who talk the talk and theres those who walk the walk
And our 2.5% was a problem with the commerce dept which allows shipments.. they allowed an illegal act by american law
he believed in why he was there and he and many of his friends volunteer to go back if needed
t0t - whether one talks or walks has little to do with whether or not one is a moron.
Please, get over yourself
My cat wants in.
indeed
will saddam’s execution be broadcast?
abcbooze - it will on the internets
you want to have your opinions from fox news then fo got it doesnt mean youre right
t0t, I am so inspired and amazed when I listen to the troops.. I swear anymore when I hear them come on TV I turn it up. I listen to them more than any politicians or media
Saddam’s primary goal from 1991 to 2003 was to have UN sanctions lifted, while maintaining the security of the Regime. He sought to balance the need to cooperate with UN inspections—to gain support for lifting sanctions—with his intention to preserve Iraq’s intellectual capital for WMD with a minimum of foreign intrusiveness and loss of face.
No. Videotaped, though.
or experts sitting in a nice sofa in some rich manhattan apartment
Well, we will see what Bush’s proposal is
to me it was quite obvious accounting for WMD’s includes accounting for him NOT HAVING tham. It’s all he had to do
Though I am hearing that it will most likely be a troop surge
Youtube emps are probably applying as much coolant to the servers as possible right now
More money, more troops, same instability
this remained the goal to the end of the Regime, as the starting of any WMD program, conspicuous or otherwise, risked undoing the progress achieved in eroding sanctions and jeopardizing a political end to the embargo and international monitoring.
I have not hears but maybe 1 out of 100 troops if that.. Say anything about the war which they dont believe they can win or that they are making a differnce, 99% believe they are making a difference and they are insulted by politicians who say they cant win
Think it’ll show up on YouTube?
MrRod - Positive. It has to, if only for a few minutes. Once the video hits the net, my guess is that there will be thousands of people trying to be the first one to put it on YouTube
Iraq was just one of the pieces of getting control over middle east. Iran and Syria was probably next on the list, but Iraq and Afghanistan startet to cost too much.
and it’ll be a while for Youtube to remove all of them
Heh, Afghanistan
When I see guys who dodge bullets every day smile and have more optimism than anyone in the stats it inspires me a lot.
Can’t be all that exciting.
And I listen closer to the troops when I can, than Anyone else.
playerTwo why would youtube remove it?
bud - Putting snuff/etc. up on Youtube is against the EULA
playerTwo you can watch any number of hangings on youtube. it isnt snuff
Would that stop you?
They would remove it because they know they can’t handle it YouTube is still small
bud - Right, that’s because they haven’t removed it yet. Whether or not we call it snuff doesn’t matter. It’s against Youtube’s terms of service.
bud` doesn’t believe there are snuff films. Urban legend.
Can you imagine the bandwidth if you put up a legit Saddam hanging? It would DoS YouTube into next week
MrRod - Heck no. My guess is it isn’t going to stop anyone. People put all kinds of junk on Youtube that aren’t allowed
YouTube can’t even dev their site worth a damn
MrRod depending on the definition, yes, ’snuff films’ for the most part are myth
like what?
They would use the EULA to use as an exscuse to take it down
there is no underground fantasy world of film makers producing snuff films for profit
MrRod - Hangings, pornography, etc.
Many of you that have checked out “http://www.newamericancentury.org/“? The neocons have some scary ideas…
If you have MS-dvr format I have a documentary on soilders in Iraq which is less than a month old.. Actually I dont know if its legal for me to shar eit. hmm
bud`: Maybe there is. I wouldn’t know.
I don’t think it would be about the EULA itself
his daughters asking his body be buried in yemen
Porno? On YouTube? Surely not!
why yemen?
They would use that as a bounce
playerTwo there are plenty of execution and autopsy films all over youtube. they do not get removed unless they are obviously intended to shock, arouse etc
The reality is if someone put up a hanging of Saddam it would most likely crash them within the hour
they are just.. there
lol temporarily until iraq is liberated rofl wtf
He murdered his daughters husbands. both of them
YouTube can’t handle the kind of bandwidth that kind of thing would demand
MrRod - I prefer pornotube and boobtube myself. But yeah, Youtube has a habit of not getting around to removing vids for a while. Every now and then you’ll find a “This video has been removed for content violations” message, but for the most part, they just leave things alone. Which is why I think the Saddam video will be out in full force tonight.
my understanding of ’snuff films’ are they #1 are made for profit, 2 are produced in a way to be shocking or erotic in some way, appeal to a certain kind of sleezeball in society
Why woudl have to keep his body secret in Iraq
Though it was not known whether images of the execution would be released, the news divisions at ABC and CBS said that, should video become available, they will show some visual documentation of Saddam’s death but will not use overly graphic images or show
It would probably be defiled
Someone would probably bury him face down and feet toward mecca.. If you know what that means.
show complete execution.
dc - Agreed. Hence the coolant comment
i think FOX will show it
NBC News, however, indicated it might go further. Steve Capus, the president of NBC News, said that network may show “a wide shot of Saddam hanging.” He said NBC would make its decision based on questions both of taste and of history.
pay-per-view
damn it what ever happened to tgif tv
WWII executions are everywhere and not considered tasteless at all
networks need the ratings come on
expecially abc
show saddam swinging
its really nothing excitig. one second the guy has a bag shoved over his head the next minute he drops a couple feet
If someone was able to video tape it, and upload it .. first thing that would happen would be word of mouth and viewership
reality tv at its finest
There has never been a proven case of a snuff film to exist.
News would get wind of the tape being online
well a tasteful shot of saddam hanging m,ight be ok as long as it is tasteful
it’ll be on utube
They’d broadcast where it was *boom* instance crash
And what it is, is a murder filmed for entertaiment during sex, or pornography
a friend of mine is looking at iraqi stations at the moment
None of this means that the complete images of the hanging, should such video be taken by Iraqi authorities, will be unavailable. Executives throughout the television news business said they fully expect these images to turn up at least on Web sites.
http://i17.tinypic.com/2cpq2iw.jpg
i wonder if al jarerra will show it er however its spelled
that is a capture of a shot of one channel from iraq
FreeTra5w yes, thats what ive been saying, and hangings like WWII videos and saddam if it gets released are not snuff at all
No hood. Naked. Not a quick snap. Rather, a slow suffication.. so he kicks around frantically for a good 3 to 5 minutes. All in high definition.
sopcast to the rescue
Robert DiNEro I am told was researching for a movie he was goign to play in which had a snuff thing in it or something.
tasteful!
he offered a fortune in france or italy to obtain one and never did
The Iraqi authorities and the US want to make it clear that Saddam was executed.
But the fact he would want to even view one is sick
indeed
hes dead? + jim
and tells you something of his mind.. If true. This was in a biography and I havent confirmed it as true but its a claim in a biography of him
Still unclear was what other news and video outlets might do if they gain access to video images from the hanging. Representatives for the Arab news network Al Jazeera did not respond to messages. And a representative from YouTube did not respond to questions about the policy of that popular video site, which has previously offered videos with graphic battle footage from Iraq.
see youtube’ll have it
how long before it turns up on youtube?
about two hours
he has to be hung first
debris good point
are you going to watch it?
hahaha
Then don’t expect YouTube to be up very long
yep.
lol dc
sickos
YouTube can’t hand;e shit for bandwidth
debris, get out of my mind
Talking about selling the videos before its even done
I think it’ll be interesting.
it will be on there almost instantly if it gets out.. people want to advertise there website in the description and thats one way to get hundreds of thousands of free visits
in what way? interesting?
They aren’t equipped for it. Most likely if someone puts it up They’ll take it down
iraqi tv are filming it
It will be up to the Iraqi government if it is videotaped.. it may be simply to prove closure it may be cut
they said they will tape it
the press may never get the full version
“We will video everything,” Iraqi National Security adviser Mouffak al Rubaie told CBS News. http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=1925372006
They may not want people to see him struggling if he doesnt die instantly
I can’t explain why it’s interesting. It just taps some base instinctual lust to see someone you dislike die.
Saddam.Hanging.Iraq.NOJOKE.torrent ;p hehe
Or maybe some curiosity with death that so many people have.
ABC and CBS said they wouldn’t air the full execution if the video became available. FOX!
ive seen death I am not curious about it.
BT proto’s probably going to be pretty active tooo
come on fox!
Yay. Bill O’Reilly is back.
protocals*
And it’s live.
O’RLY?
oh really
dems are plotting how to steal the headlines back into negativity
Bah, Fox. Yeah, I can’t wait for that video. “Saddam Hussein (D - Iraq) executed”
Any of you know if the full trial is available on the net? The sound was often cut when they broadcasted parts of it on CNN and BBC World.
lol D
Norway25M, that was the censors
nice one playerTwo
Picture of Saddam about to be hanged, last request he asks for some Emerald Nuts .. cut to: Dumb Dingbat Despots Doing Dirty Deeds eat Emerald Nuts
I know…
Saddam sings the Dee Dee Dee song
FOX will make a show out of it?
The full trial was broadcast even when he did political ranting
I’m sure
a DVD boxed set
The only time his voice was cut was when the judge cut it because he violated the rules of the court
classy
A defense trial is to defend against the charges. Not to political grand stand.
My favorite was the judge throwing Ramsey Clarke out of the courtroom
they didnt censor him when he ranted.. infact, the translators focused on his rants rather than the judge trying to speak over him
Sure about that FreeTra5w?
Yes I am sure.
whenever saddam was ranting, the translators were giving you saddams words, not the judges
Who cares?
if the recording wasnt broadcast it was the judge or it was the tv stations own censorship
so anyone who says he was censored or blocked out is a loon
I never watched the trial
not any government censorship I read about that very thing today somewhere.
Saddam.. poor little guy
0 - to me
bud`, or pulling a leg
despite all that he’s done, he’s burnt out all his motivation, so no need to KILL him ARGH
The judge from time to time shut him off and even closed the trial
It doesn’t effect my life tomorrow, or the next day
we lose ford, the dems lose saddam
Burd apparently there is a lot of video of him politically grandstanding..
but WHAT THE FUCK?! I thought they said he’s gonna get exectued next year.. a MONTH before the time he could’ve got unexecuted if he was caught later or if he would’ve been older..
uncensored and in the possession of the press
so what was he saying, was he actually making any points?
he has to be executed before Pelosi can have him reinstated
who saddam?
So when is the trial of Bush, for all the innocent lives he has caused death in the name of liberty and democracy? Death penalty for that as well?
shhh Norway25M, that’s a bannin’
haha
it doesn’t take much to push the libs over the edge
ah the voice of the sidelined insignificant
his daughter is pretty ): that kind of girl does NOT deserve such
t0tgiglz i’m sorry :{ i feel so bad
besides, BBC made a funny thing.. intentional or not, it had the title screen for his execution despite completely irrelevant coverage (Mike Tyson.. etc)
Norway25M, Grow up You act like a 25 year old male who never matured who is from Norway I wonder if I am right
because he doesnt have the same opinions as you?
Anyway Bush has dont nothing illegal.
what was the year that is the limit of Dubya’s presidency?
illegal isn’t the same as immoral
thats subjective imo
he has done everything in his power to minimize civilian casualities
yes, civilians! turned combatants :p not anymore after that
Personally I think that Bush is a bigger treat to the world peace than most other politicians these days, but you are of course entitled to your own opinions FreeTra5w.
and youre from the states norway ?
does that matter?
Not the states. Norway is in Europe.
enough said
lol
I’d rather have a world liberty rather than world peace with dictatorships.
you guys from the us have opinions about things all over the world..
we should put bush on trial as soon as we put a whole host of political leaders over the last 40+ years on trial for their shenanigans
indeed We like to express ours, not listen to others (;
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/iraq_oil_2003.jpg
we have it better here in the states then overseas on many country
hehe, and you get away with it all the time because you are the only super power. not saying im not happy you are that and not any other shit country
Well Scandinavia is pretty easy to live in with the welfare state.
there’s a reason war criminals live living in Norway
Kind of that thing where we feel like we can involve ourselves with other world matters, without really listening to what the world has to say about it
listen bud`
when are we putting gorbachev on trial
si vis pacem, para bellum Vegiteus btw
There was that story about the Palestinian doctor in Sweden refusing to treat an American.
Spanish poorly written?
Latin Rod
rofl rod
Indeed we do get away with it. I’m not like that though personally
Ahh. Well, Spanish is Latin poorly written.
“If you wish peace, prepare for war”
I like to be able to point to other countries on the map, maybe say a thing or two about their culture ;p
Oh wow. I was able to decode that with Spanish.
^^
So FreeTra5w, do you actually feel the world has become more peacefull and safer after the war against “terrorism”? Personally I think that the recruitment for terrorrists is now bigger than ever.
hmm.. saddam could be going down in a few hours..? wonder if they send it online
uo habla poquito Espano~l but I knwo a wee bit more Latin and can typo fluently in all of them
I had someone in here the other day talking about how we shouldn’t have to listen to the world given what we do, *listen* mind you not *roll over for* .. of course, that same person disagreed the world see’s us as arrogent and pushy Go figure
hehe
personally I do what I always have done. hitch up my pistol and cycle ammo daily
“after” the war on terror? the war on terror is over?
interesting, freetrade must be dead..
I like to be a worldly person. When I meet someone from another country I try to respect their cultures or ideals even if I think they may be silly myself. I realize the U.S. is a very small chunk of land in a very big world ;p
Norway freetrade knows the world is slightly safer today because the major operatioons have been screwed up and left mainlyu small operators of jihad to take the place of the well financed and nation backed al queda which was seeking WMD
swiggy
Unfortunatly, not too many understand that concept
hey
I wonder when freetrade got bumbed off
It’s not small compared to France, DC.
Americas mission in Iraq is to save people, help people, and fight off extremists with a ideology possibly even more evil than Hitlers.. Since they use god as a central part of it. To use God as an excuse not to murder one person, but billions of people.. If they could they would
This from their own writings, Preachings and videos ok This isnt from me this is them
Save people?
This is what htey claim, what they say they want to do they want to kill you because you worship Jesus or God of the jews or atheistis
By creating a cluster fuck Genius
pardon the typos Save people they save people every single day
if we do not develop a tech soon that is not oil dependent, we could be somewhat facing a problematic situation
That may be our goal, but we arn’t really doing too well in that aspect
Yes they are have you seen any videos of like in Iraq ? life in Iraq ?
Saddam’s regime only for them to be killed by insurgents
yeah someone nuked freetrade
rwx “Saddam’s execution is a gift from God, and we must thank God for this gift,” Shiite cleric Sayed Sadir al Din al-Qubanchi told worshippers in Najaf. declaring killing as a gift from god to followers .. a mistake which easily plays out both ways
So yay! They lived through Saddam’s rule ! whoops, wait, they just died by insurgency
My prediction is that we will declare victory in the War on Terror the same day we declare victory on the Wars on Drugs, Hunger, Illiteracy, and Crime and there will be much rejoicing accross the land.
pilgrim`: yeah, but there are some positive things when the oil resources end. We dont have to give a fuck about the middle-east
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WyldOcsar hehe
WyldStallionOscar
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there are parallels today to conditions int he Three ingdoms period of China see the works of Liu Ji for examples kingdoms
the way to win the war on drugs is not how they are doing it now..
haha, exactly. nice paralell
Terror will never be stopped by war.
I wonder if anyone has thought were the druglord profits are going?
please, stop his execution
I mean really … We sit here and talk about how much we saved Iraqis, and from Saddam indeed that is true. However, what cancels that out is the handfuls that die *daily* by insurgency
someone, make a petitiononline.com petition!
they cant win if they dont kill every person doing drugs imo
So whats better then? To die by Saddam’s hand? Or by Insurgents? In Iraq they’re just picking A) or B)
“A sign of hope is the increasing recognition that the dignity of human life must never be taken away, even in the case of someone who has done great evil. Modern society has the means of protecting itself, without definitively denying criminals the chance to reform. I renew the appeal I made most recently at Christmas for a consensus to end the death penalty, which is both cruel and unnecessary.” -JPII
errr is this Save Saddam looney hour?
they won’t execute him, they’ll tease him! And only do bad things ):
terror can be stopped by war and has been historically.
YES, petitiononline.com, start a petition, GO!
CryHavoc no, blame america
If it hadn’t become the cluster-fuck it has after our ousting of Saddam I would say yes
To do nothing against terrorism even if you dont stop i tall is worse than to do something.
100% we saved Iraqis
lol yes cry it is
ahaa! you a soldier
Norway….seems yer people did not think that way regarding Vidkun Quisling…
To do nothing is like not arrestings murderers because it wont stop murder
We can all admit Saddam and his regime was brutal
hugz the gigglz
has terror been such a global problem before?
~~tortus~~
YEs it has actually
Of course
it has
Norway = finest standard of living, end of discussion
it was when I grew up
haha
it was in the 70s
In the name of Allah the Willingful and Wonderful, Even Allah can’t save Saddam Husayn Al-Tikriti now he has been handed his judgement now it’s up to the people to do it. Allahu Ackbar
Doing something can be better than doing nothing, but it depends on the act…
dc|web so are americas streets a clusterfuck also? are you statistically more likely to be murdered in america or serving iraq
im talking bigger perspectives.. but yeah, k
it was all over europe and america
maybe there would be a strategic advantage for a 3 year stay
Norway - Socialist peshole…end of discussion..
We stopped it
But kind of like the WW’s it takes us being hit ourselves massively to recognize it
yay! 3
Finland - Also another Socialist Pesthole
Bigger persepectivre ? OK 3000 werent killed in the 70s in a single act
yeah, despite capitalists winning socialist paramilitary activity, PSIC
but plenty of people were killed all over the world
(talking about the Finnish civil war)
Make Saddams hanging public….
Saddam should have looked into fleeing to scandanavia instead of hiding in that hole. They love to harbor thousands of war criminals over there
broadcast it
Terrorism has been going on for centuries
we sure do and we don’t regret it you’rre just jealous! 3 it’s OK
nlitement…jealous…of what??
the red brigate, the SLA, the PLF the PLA German, italian and french terrorists.. murderers.
bud`: hahaha name 10 war criminals that lives in scandinavia?
that we have all the badass villains
that is most certanly a us myth
I say again, Its a matter of “how would YOu like to die” in Iraq. Though we just picked it for them, instead of dying by Saddam, we picked insurgency
Hmm, Hannity is back, too.
I find that it is Paper Cutout Europeans are the jealous ones
Norway under Harald Hard Reed had a few reasnoable politicasn, but they all died in 1066 at Stamford Bridge
brigade not brigate
pilgrim…hear hear thats when the Norse had some balls
the norse never had any balls
ahh! Don’t you move your pie hole, damn you European leftovers!
CryHavoc publisise the bodies of his sons wasnt ever going to win hearts and minds either
pilgrim Harald Haardrada?
Yes, a lot has changes since those times. Some think that’s a good thing, though.
arab loving scandinavians viva israel zi0n power
“Executing him now is dangerous. The situation is very bad. Things need to be calmer,” said Saadia Mohamed Majed, a 60-year-old Shiite in Baghdad who wants the penalty to be postponed for at least three years.
gosync..this is different…
that is true though.
Grooblle i dont need to. authorities in the countries looking into the matter themselves admit their governments know about many many of the cases
for different reasons
I love Israel, you’re wrong! AHA! Got yo stereotyping!
the death penalty is so primitive, what ever happened to reform?
