11.27.07

Sooo why is the white house asking approval of torture laws RETROACTIVE Could it be because the Village Idiot

Posted in Politics at 4:30 am by Michael Johnson

Unlikely.

wolfy .. they hopped on one foot, wore their jihad moonbat tshirts , and sang ooooooooooommmmmmmm

Pickle, I know but one can dream

this is a good site for direct/updates of shuttle/iss operations: http://spaceflightnow.com/

and all I have to say .. is that if there is another hurricane .. THEY caused it !!!

What’s more likely is that, in the absence of what little governmental oversight existed, corruption will set in and the practice will increase.

John Mark Karr is working with the CIA to overthrow the Thai government, which is why he pleaded guilty in JonBenet case because his cover was blown in Bankok and needed media publicity to make sure he wasn’t assassinated Pickle, The sitting PM was a dictator, since he was unelected and ruled with ‘emergency powers’

Sooo . . . why is the white house asking approval of torture laws RETROACTIVE? Could it be because the Village Idiot is facing CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY in the International Court of Law at The Hague?

sort of like bush

NookNut, why no, it couldn’t be that.

I must say, i’m watching the “steve irwin memorial”.. and it’s dramatically different than most.. seems alot more real/heart felt than what you normally see

volume Bush was elected, and doesn’t use any emergency powers

oh, new people! Let’s all welcome NookNut and his sock-puppet volume!

lol.. damn, that could be true even

NookNut, as he’s not facing shit at the Hague.

yeah, and I have some WMD’s in iraq to sell ya’… LOL

yea, its only about torture.. not anything else.. *rolls eyes* even thou the bill contains a hell of alot of things which doesn’t concern torture

Are you sure about that? I hadn’t heard about that.

I agree with not putting terrorists picked up in iraq and afghanistan under the ‘prisoner of war’ definition I’ll tell you why:

At any rate, at least the army might get down to business with the Islamists in the south.

a) currently terrorists get military tribunals, under geneva conventions prisoners of war are held until the conflict ends without trial

Liberals oppose torture because they know that since many of them are traitors, they are eligible for torture. As usual, they choose to protect themselves and put America at risk!

lol

b) terrorists can be held after the U.S. pulls out of Iraq and Afghanistan, if they were prisoners of war U.S. would have to release them at the end of each conflict which is bad for the national security of the U.S. Those are good reasons not to include them under “Prisoner of War”

no one seems able to pin down exactly what qualifies these guys for “POW”.. yet they claim they are.

not to mention, they aren’t, legally

I think they should just not give them trials at all

well.. since they are not soldiers of the government of iraq or afghanastan.. even if they were “pow’s”.. they may not be required to be released then.

27 retired generals, McCain, Warner, Powell, Graham all opposed the bush plan to water down the Geneva Conventions. notice how bush is the only among them who avoided service in wartime.

The Geneva Conventions technically forbid any interrogation of prisoners whatsoever, never mind torture tactics. We don’t follow them and shouldn’t and won’t in any event.

I personally think torture is ineffective at anything but a punishment. I don’t think you get accurate information out of torturing someone.

why is ahminijab whatever his name is… even in the U.S.

heeh heeh heeh . . . lookit all the lemmingocious morons running skired now that the christo-nazis of the white house cabinet are gonna face the music: CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY in The Hague. Serves them right!

volume, how many active duty generals are there?

Especially when, if I recall correctly, the actual trained terrorists are trained on what to say.

sure you can, but you need immediate verification

It’s a big bunch of political bullshit that is going to backfire on McCain and the other retards.

active duty generals don’t speak their minds.

eh devoice or ban NookNut

never happen

volume, sure they do

he obviously doens’t have anything valuable to say

not when Rummy is your boss. and Rummy himself also avoided service, by the way.

volume, wrong again.

in order to indict someone for war crimes before the ICJ, the UN Security Council must approve it - and since the US and others have vetoes, they are hardly likely to indict their own people. Ergo, it won’t happen.

NookNut, the U.S. is not a ratifier to the ICC so its not able to be prosecuted by The Hague anyways.

B00sh, Chennron, Rumsfool . . . they all dodged the draft.

all the military guys opposed bush’s plan to water down the Geneva Conventions.

does it thou? i mean, where does it technically ban it for anyone captured?

NookNut are you able to not be a moonbat for one sentence?

Mahmood Ahmadi-Nejad has come to New York to speak before the U.N.

volume, have you served?

lol.. water down the geneva conventions.. = adhere strictly to its definition of what POW is. those who wish to claim EVERYONE seized is a POW wish to violate the geneva convention.

e-Hernick yeah, i know that …. but who invited him?

he can invite himself anytime he wants.. it’s the U.N…

it just shows how extreme bush is.

volume, have you served?

he’s out of touch

Any world leader is welcome to the U.N. I think.

Well, it first of all depends on whether you categorize the captured terrorists as “prisoners of war” or “civilians”, because that decides whether the third or fourth conventions apply.

I wish the UN would disintegrate.

You know, its Bush’s job to protect the security of the United States, I’ve already outlined how counting terrorists as P.O.W.s is not only compromises the security of the United States in the long run, but is unfair to the terrorists compared to current conditions

ah.. but it doesn’t state that an individual MUST be a member of either

Tailor, none of your friggin business. go stock someone else, weirdo.

Battlefield combatants

stalk

there is not an “either or” test.. but rather, a test for protections of non-combattants.. and a test for POW status.

Look, the Geneva conventions aren’t clear. Right now, American torturers don’t know exactly how far they can go. The outdated Geneva conventions are confusing and lawyers can interpret them any way they want, and those interpretations do not give our torturers nearly enough latitude to extract the information they need out of our enemies.

volume, 3you are devoiced (Requested by TheTailor - Reason: Takd some time to read our channel rules at www.ircpolitics.org, I’ll revoice you later. )

Yes–the fact is that the terrorists aren’t covered by either convention, but never mind that fine point, because dicks like McCain don’t bother with it.

lol.. american tortures?

I don’t think torture works

This is why the Geneva conventions need to be revised for clarity, so that our torturers can know exactly how far they can go.

or is really valuable at all

Oh, and turn down the volume

And neither does SCOTUS these days.

right, and I think part of the reason is the administration has not been precise in their statements. it is not that “the geneva convention does not apply”.. it is, yes it applies to everyone.. just that certain parts may not be pertainant to an individual.

hmmm will this kill McCains chances to run for the gop in 2008?

Yes. McCain is fuckered. The GOP has a longer memory than he seems to think.

eh I think he would have been weak on security policy anyways

And God damn, that’s a good thing.

Torture isn’t all about “working”… Sure, it might not always be reliable at information extraction, but it is a form of swift punishment, both psychological and physical, for America’s enemies. Would you like to see our enemies unharmed when they do not hesitate at blowing up the children with their suicide bombs? Of course not. The enemy must suffer.

yea, i would love to ask the SCOTUS under what part of the “test” they qualify under.

e-Hernick, stop trolling

As far as I’m concerned he’s nothing but a RINO.

whazzat

Republican In Name Only

oh yeah

i.e. not a “True Republican” It’s the No True Scotsman fallacy acronyfied.

No one who appeals to Democrats to vote for him in open primaries gets to call himself a Republican, IMO.

Pickle, in the executive in the PC Party here in manitoba, esp in the youth wing, there are a bunch of federal liberals

No True Republican would do X!

Pickle, Basically my goal is to chase them out

a true conservative would not wipe his bung with the second amendment. IMHO.

e-Hernick: When X is campaigning for Democrats to invade Republican primaries to vote for you, yes, that’s right.

i think its true that there are issues about the fact that terrorist groups dont adhere to treaties, but the reason we had the geneva conventions in the first place wasnt just for diplomatic purposes but human rights, so its strange to fall back on it as merely a diplomatic convention

And that’s what McCain did in ‘96.

Is he not a registered republican who runs as a Republican and mostly votes with the republicans? He may be a left-wing republican, sure. But saying he’s not a “True Republican” or that he’s a RINO… well… Are you a True Christian? Are you a True Conservative?

IMHO, it is wrong to claim these terrorists qualify for POW status, when its quite clear they do not.

e-Hernick: He’s a registered Republican who votes with Republicans on abortion and precious few other “Republican” issues, who supports campaign finance reform laws that damage Republicans more than Democrats, and who campaigns to get Democrats into open primaries to vote for him. In other words: he’s a RINO.

lupine ya that wasnt my point thuogh lupine my point is that its strange we care more about the legalisms of the treaty when the point of the treaty was to protect human rights

pannus

i disagree that that was the “point”.. if it were, there would not be a test for POW status

oh how i love pannus not my own of course i’m 1 week clean and still having withdrawal

besides, the vast vast majority of party signers intentionally crap on the human rigths of their own citizens, so..

sux

By that token, McCain is not a Democrat, either. He’s simply an opportunist with no political compass and no sense of party discipline who is perfectly willing to torpedo the Republican Party if he perceives it to be in the interest of his political career.

Pickle! you speak the truth!

yeah.. he votes what he feels is right

he’s a opulist

the atrociousnes of it

He should be sitting alongside Jeffords as an independent.

not voting party ticket HORRIBLE

Vote Bill O’Reilly in 08

party ticket voters piss me off pickle :P they arent doing their jobs

It’s not horrible–it simply means he’s a RINO.

they should vote for what is best for their constituants and that doesnt mean voting the line

I hate one issue voters

He doesn’t.

i know.. its good :P

He votes for wht is best for his personal political career. That’s it.

if he is voting on what gets him votes then that makes sense.. thats what his constituants want right? hes not a national senator hes a state senator

No, he’s a national senator.

representing a state

No, representing America, like all other federal politicians.

hes representing HIS constituants not the republican constitutants in florida or oregon

Vote GOP in 06

No, he’s representing America, and supposed to be acting in the best interests of America.

if they are representing the nation then whats the point of state election then it should be a national vote for every senator

McCain is an opportunist, nothing more.

i’m a putz

The point is to ensure that the states have an equal say in what’s in the best interests of the Republic. That doesn’t mean that a senator is supposed to act according to the best interests of his state, or be a populist with no moral compass whatsoever like McCain.

if every senator should vote party ticket then that really blows… cause neither party represents everything anyone like x

my problem is mccain is notthat he hfails to vote party line, its the votes he choses to diverge on he’s a putz and an asshole and insane to boot all that time in hotel saigon really fuxored him up

But if the people of Arizona want a populist with no party affiliation, then that’s what they should get. Not a RINO.

what is a RINO?

And if that’s what McCain wants to be, then he should quit the Republicans and sit his ass next to Jeffords. And Lieberman.

he wont get elected as an independent

you and I agree again - please move to NM

Republican In Name Only.

sure he would fone

well…. recall petitions are being circulated now for mc cain to be recalled

thanks

because the independent party cant raise enough money to campaign effectivly

its not the first time but he can

because there arent enough of them to have enough power to get the corporations interests

I hope they work this time… cause he has gone to far and I hope they realize this should be the final straw

he would win in AZ I know, I used to live there and that gives me all the knowlledge

haha

you and I need to talk

i used to live there myself

fonebone`: then you too have the force with you

I’d move to NM tomorrow if the old lady approved.

you would be more than welcome here you would be welcome to break bread with me anytime

no actually, I do not think Mc Cain would win on the I ticket

or smoke a blunt we need to talk about the jews

if da elections were 2day i would vote 4 mccain

the only reason he wins on the R.. is cause the R party will not run anyone against him cause of his years in office

jonas- NO WAY

yes

yeah, its his years in office are you ignoring me ?

Sadly, she doesn’t. I’ve convinced her to move as far south as North Dakota. Maybe South Dakota.

what do we have to talk about

And only then if she loses her job following the next provincial election.

how humans don’t impact the evironment at all

the jews

what about them

well I think you might be an anti-semite

hahahahaha now thats funny

thats what I heard anyway from a reliable source

oh gnoes it’s the j00z!

oh an who is this source?

I have chosen JanetB to be anti-semited tonight *grin*

shhhh she secretly hates jews

*grin*

wekk since I am half Jewish, I must anti myself hahaha well

a self-hater! which half?

mothers side

One thing is funny about the J00z, is that sometimes they are a race, sometimes they are a religion, sometimes they are both.

lol your mother married a nonjew

yes

isnt that forbidden or something

no

by the torah

it’s forbidden, FTW!

then you are not half a jew, you are a full jew, and a self-hater to boot!

oh gee, what fun

haha

nevermind, I’ll go ahead and anti-semite thetailor

Most of the Jews that marry non-Jews aren’t religious.

I understand that I am jewish in heritage.. however some here that are jewish by faith, do not like me to say I am jewish my Mother was very religious

Two days in a row?

if your mother is jewish then you are a full jew period remember I’m in withdrawal and terribly bored

ralphi.. not according to some in here so I say heritage to keep the peace

well it depends if you subscribe to the one drop theory..

Religious people come to #politics?

why not

it is the law

Wow.

I know what the law is

not so many of them can survive unscathed..

and the law is the law is the law

screw the peace when you’re right you’re right

hahah US-Male

US-Male hates jews

hah

you ALL HATE JEWS

oh yeah ;P

we have a lot of religious in this channel

US-Male is a well-known Jew…

SWIGERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ltns

omg a well known J00 how come nobody told me ?

usmale isnt following jewish law

swigert is like the only one on this channel who isn’t an anti-semite

but thats ok he’s not part of the chosen people

damn right

bunch of libertarian jews on this channel

I’m having sausage on my pizza. Pork sausage. yum yum yum

I love pork - as a Jew, its a delicacy

forbidden fruit is always sweeter

I never had pork till I got married

why janet?

yer married? that sucks.

and man do I love it!

oink oink

lilah.. it was not allowed in our home

oink me, uk!

are you jewish janet? or muslim?

my Mother was I am catholic

janetb converted to scientology

oh that explains alot

I could make a joke ….

um isn’t the man of the house the one who sets the rules?

but I won’t (THIS time)

you can not be catholic if your mother is a jew

ralphi. yes I can and I am

janetb ralphi is trying to tell you what you can do

I am a completed jew

psh

I got the beginning and the end

A Jew for Jesus?

no

I never had pork till I got married

heh yea

hahah thanks US-Male

hehehe

lol thanks for skipping that one US-male

tjat as am obvious one

heh. Skipping it was probably funnier

blush

imagination is frequently better than relaity reality

i wish the force was for real and the telikinesis that goes with it and the light sabers

it is real

i’m dead serious

?? no it’s really real man

usmale is loaded with mitochlorians

wish i was if I lived a long time ago in a land far away i’d be bantha fodder

usmale so in star wars is there some type of physical treatment to increase your mitochlorian count

like invitro mitchloriography

mito-whaaa ?

it was so stupid to introduce the concept of mitochlorians

wtf do I know? how cum?

the whole series sucked balls get over it

redfish wears Spock ears. He has them on right now

say it again and I’ll have you flogged

the series did suck

star wars?

usmale wears ferengi ears

all six sucked?

Is the circle of hell that houses the crusading popes and the inquisition genocidal popes, and the average murderous popes who murder rivals–is it big enough? ‘Cause there’s one more pope needing housing there.

ya

wow

i mean teh last one was ok i cant BEAR to watch the first one

how come?

redfish rubs peoples’ ears in a frenzy

the second one is somewhat bearable the third one is teh best of the lot bleah

lemme guess, you read a lotta Chick tracts?

NookNut, 3you are devoiced (Requested by TheTailor - Reason: LAAAAME )

i totally agree about the third one being the best

popes never called for genocide and popes didnt administer justice

thank you thetailor

although I don’t really think much of this asshole tbh

the kings govts would always convict people in courts

I just had a great idea.

whats that krispy? hey kaliuna? !

hi

Let’s let Ahmadinejad have nuclear power.

and sentence them to any punishments

ralphi’s Pope name is “Eroticus XIVI”

us-male speaks the truth

usmale’s pope name is “popey I”

what ralphi?

hi kaliuna

XIVI?

hi - and all that jazz

So that after he single handedly wipes out a few million people, the US can regain control of the world with a nice “I told you so”

I ama a direct decendednt of peter

~~~ good nite all

Katey- he doesn’t get the roman numerals

yah, but then he’ll kill all the jews

peter griffin?

cuz he is one f’n anti-semite

Indeed.

no jokin’ around there

But hey, it’s gonna take that

there’d be a few left in america I guess

cause he’s making us look bad.

only those who know how to survive

he’s ripping us apart and people are getting behind him

I will NOT vote republican again if we don’t take out their nuclear stuff or Israel

so, after everyone’s with Iran and against us and he uses a nuke on the jews the Us will come back on top. US*

heh. Dems are even less likely to do anything

USA USA USA us-male: still

nobody is going to stop Iran. I think they will make a nuke and keep denying it for years

I’m reading that their military startegies are going regional rather than bothering with the pesky palestinians

Iran has a peaceful nuclear energy program until proven otherwise

td-: the proof is in the Tapioca peaceful my ass

td-: no, that’s false. Reality exists before it is proven to exist.

what is reality

td-: ayn rand teaches that peole who ask questions like that aren’t worth debating

td-: lol don’t act like that

Exactly. No doubt. I’m telling you. It’s going to take the wiping out of millions of people to make people understand.

td-: something you are completely unaware of

think we would nuke back?

td-: you do know iran has threatened to take out israel, right?

Doubtful.

td-: on several occassions

have they?

r e a l i t y — seven letter word - r e a l = base exists

td-, peaceful programs don’t need fuel enriched to weapons grade.

We’ll seize all nuclear operations in Iran forcefully.

have we turned into strategic pussies?

and then BOMB THE LIVING SHIT out of them. Iran doesn’t have the capability for MAD.

who is enriching to weapons grade?

td-: they have’

no need to use Nukes.

Iran

ok who spiked crispy’s drink

Haha, what? My logic is undisputable.

luckily Israel has the samson option - there would be nothing left of the middle east if Israel’s existence is threatened

thats comforting

let ‘em go at it imo. who cares

We’d never waste a nuke on Iran. It’d cause more trouble.

the middle east? try the world

i think Iran deserves FUEL AIR EXPLOSIVES

Iran doesn’t deserve shit

thats horrible nobody deserves fuel air explosives

a.k.a. napalm

yea faes

it’s one thing to say you’re peaceful and then once everyone believes you and THEN you nuke someone

and moabs

but it’s a totally different thing to say “we wanna wipe isreal off the map” and then “support our nuke program. plz. kthx.”

nah, no need to use napalm we have other stuff

Israel can strike as far as Moscow with missles and we gave them the KH-11 satellite trajectories to do it

so how did Ahjemaneidajdahdjads speech go?

Israel has its own missiles.. ICBMs

They should hammer Putin a bit.

jericho IV’s

Herzen — no idea I watched tv shows.. but think its up on drudge report

actually, Reagan did - he had a don’t ask don’t tell policy when it comes to israel’s spying thats what I said, as far as moscow

wrong they can strike anywhere

and they have subs that they bought from germany that are probably right now in the persian gulf loaded with nukes funny that they bought them from germany eh?

i bet the subs arn’t fully functional

i went to a wake today for an old high school teacher - it was SO SAD i cried like a bitch

what kind of submarines?

i’m not sure but they can launch nukes and only like few countries can launch nukes from subs

ralphi did your mascara run

a sad wake? I don’t believe you

you should go to an Irish wake they party

those are the happiest things

fuck that i’m having a viking funueral funeral*

i think this woman was very liberal and possibly atheist - they read from ecclesiastes if thats any indication I’m having a STRICT jewish funeral

According to some reports the submarines may be capable of carrying nuclear-armed Popeye Turbo cruise missiles, with a goal of deterring an enemy from trying to take out its nuclear weapons with a surprise attack.

Crispy`, cruise ships just hate when folks do that ;-)

ralphi sorry to hear it though

I told my wife to find the nicest outfit she has and wrent that

haha

us-male: thanks

Popeye missiles ehhh gegegege

Supposed to be pretty good submarines easily outdo their neighbors

US-Male: sounds like an arab funeral

they should make Bluto miissiles

with the clay on the face and everything?

and Olive Oil

no funerals - no wakes - just go on about your daily lives…

what happened to the guy who used to be on #politics from australia who LOVED america?

I don’t think I’d want a funeral.

When I croak I want them to take me immediately to the oven and turm me to ash, then I want the ash to be pressed into a pair of dice :-)

ralphi — unclesam kid- well now in college

I’ll just go Catcher In The Rye style and have someone toss me in a river.

awwww, unclesam, right

TheTailor, that’s a cool idea.

Popeye missiles …. they wait until the very end and pop a can of WHOOPASS

i want to have a strict jewish funeral so when the messiah comes I can rise from the dead

TT — no dice — just scatter to the wind yo two

which submarines can carry popeyes? the fried chicken class sub?

Australia is a liberal myth.

Israel has a lot of armor too

are there any girls here who want to touch me? because if there are, HANDS OFF i have a missus

ralphi only likes it when boys touch him.

treu true

I have anew name for Achmadonadiddyjad “A-Diddy”

islamistnutjob

henceforth I will call him A-Diddy

how about Islam-Bob

A-Diddyjad

What about Mahmood Ahmadi-Nejad ?

US how about ACHman — not quite man not quite a worthy sneeze

but A-Diddy has comedy value

i hate islam - i’m sorry to say it but i do - i’m a bigot and i have to admit it right here on the channel - i won’t make any bigoted remarks against channel rules but i have to come out of the closet and say that I hate 99.99999 percent of them and wouldn’t mind if their countries werre turned to glass. thats all i have to say about that.

he needs a shorter name, right ?

A-Diddyjad is better

ralphi, charming

and he’s all Hollywood now no way it has ot be short

US — ya but comedian — ok

i live in new york

ok

and also hate islam

ralphi: you try so hard to be extreme; it’s a nice skin; but you don’t wear it well… have you thought about being the channel hippie instead?

i don’t hate islam at all

ralphi, I can understand hating most Islamic countries, but if you hate American muslims then you’re stupid in equal parts to being a bigot.

just crazy fundies

i have a friend that when she sees one….says - oh my gosh were going to get blown to smithereens

and i dislike them from most movements

and my roomie’s mom wont get on teh train if she sees one fully dressed going on

i try to be the channel jester

Islam is ok, it’s extremist Islam that blows

like really

I do not hate islam - the cult fundies - yes-dislike tremendously - they are brainwashed

TheTailor, righto

watch your mouth

shell wait until the next train all islam is crapp imo

ralphi: then tell more jokes.

ralphi is the channel hippie

Peace2, you are wrong.

Peace2, but they’re people of the book

did you hear the one about the priest, theminister and the rabbi?

ralphi, you call for the nuking of a billion people, and you get offended for me calling you stupid?

Peace2, come on they’re like Christians who are a little misguided coz they found one more prophet

sre sure

they get into a discussion on how they give to god

no its not true at all

ralphi: yes; it ended with a muslim blowing them up right?

theyre violent and evil

Peace2, come on they’re like Christians who are a little misguided coz they found one more prophet

the priest says, we draw a line, throw the money in the air, and whatever lands on the right side of theline goes to god and on the left side we keep

Christians are like Jews who are a little misguided coz they found one prophet too many.

e-Hernick, right

the minister says, we draw a circle, throw the money in the air, andwhatever god gets falls outside the circle

Peace2 you’re smarter than that — they aren’t all like that - the cult groups well - ya…but they aren’t all cult groupies

i am smart

we throw the money in the air and whatever god wants, he keeps!

and have gone to seminary

e-Hernick, and Jews are like Herzonites who are a little misguided because they found a one tablet with 10 rules too many

and have studied a lot about islam and the koran dont tell me about how peacefult hey are dont even think about it

a priest, a rabbi, and an Imam all are talking about who to blow up…

Islam, like all other religions, is crap.

now there is a joke waiting to be told.

do you covet your neighbor’s ass or anything else that is your neighbors?

Peace2 you are not the only one who has studied — and if you claim they are all killers - you are wrong

Yeah, because all Muslims follow the Qur’an to the letter, just like no Christian has ever gone against biblical doctrine.

P_O exactly

The Bible does tell christians to kill a lot of people for a lot of different reasons..

e-Hernick, It does? Where?

but only good ones

those who dont follow the koran to the letter (the folk m uslims) THOSE are teh ones who arent dangerous

e-Hernick: you want a list?

old testament did

because the koran is a dangerous violent book

seriously

mostly in the old testament, for sure.

Peace2, there are peaceful muslims, at best you can argue they aren’t following the religion “in the right way”.

well its not dangerous until people follow it

Old testament did, but it was thrown out with the coming of Jesus Christ

right the folk m uslims who dont know the koran are peaceful

Which is fundametnally why Christians, aren’t jews.

jesus was a skateboarder

Scientology is the answer

it wasnt thrown out

Deuteronomy and all those rules don’t count for Christians.

e-Hernick: here is a fun list of where god kills people; http://www.fallacyoflogic.com/?q=node/57

he played in the 33 x-games

It wasn’t thrown out, but Jesus said not to follow most of that

er; the jewish god.

there is no god but god and ralphi is his prophet

Herzen, Psh, what does Christ have to do with Christianity?

P_O, Clearly nothing!

scientollogy is a ufo cult

Jesus did not say to not follow it what book are you reading?

I suppose God used to be quite wrong.

P_O, Would you like to join my religion that worships the iconography of Superman?

lol herzen

P_O, coz Superman never made any money, saving the world from Solomon Grundy

e-Hernick: god isn’t all knowing eh?

i’m telling you - lets follow the jedi

the yoda cult

Herzen, omgz0rz suprman = yasse krptonte = n0z

Its gotta be pre-1970s Superman

Jesus does NOT say to not follow the torah

After 1980 Superman became a Liberal.

if god is all knowing, then he knows what you are going to do next, then you have no choice but to do it, and therefore its cruel to punish you for what god already knew you were going to do

Solomon Grundy want pants too.

you people are interesting

The U.S. government recorded record-high overall and corporate tax receipts on Sept. 15 - Total tax receipts were $85.8 billion

Superman was gay. I have proof.

you cant debate over false statements

Libertine, lol

Peace2, so good Christians should stone those who work on the Sabbath?

dont be like the dems no you stupid head

do you think Jesus 1. admits that there is such a thing as witches, and 2. wants us to kill all witches, and 3. would support witch-burnings

Libertine, I always thought that portrayal of Solomon Grundy was retarded

i like to GET STONED on the sabbath

ralphi: indeed; omniscience takes away the divine interest in ‘free will’.

lol on the witch thing

Only Jehovah’s Witnesses gain entrance to the Kingdom of Heaven

e-Hernick, I don’t know, maybe yes no no? ralphi, Superman could defeat the Jedi

not yoda

Yoda is a cracka compared to Superman

Herzen: well like all comic book creations from the golden age; they evolved into more human creations in the later years.

hell, I bet Aquaman could defeat Robin

oh my gosh

that is heresy

errr Yoda …

i personally beleive that superman could take the jedi

why did I think Robin?

and yes, aquaman could take robin who couldnt take robin i can take robin

robin is a pussy

Libertine, Superman was best in the early comics in my opinion

in so many words

Truth, Justice and the American Way How nice is that?

catwoman could probably take them all — or wonderwoman

oh you mean when he still stood for the american way?

Peace2, Yes

moewww

www.superdickery.com

Christians are moderates, having found one prophet Christians are the average of Jews and Muslims

hmm wonderwoman vs. catwoman

20mg of valium later, i think its time for bed.

tweek_, don’t link me to your hedonism

peace out

i think that wonderwoman could take catwoman

ignore all you want, tool

but catwoman has nine lives right?

yup

Herzen: I still think Alan Moore’s Watchmen and V for Vendetta are the height of the comic medium.

that would amke it hard for wonderwoman

but it’s still there

yup

oh man there’s no way half of that stuff is simple naivety

Mormon’s have how many prophets?

I agree with Watchmen, but I think V for Vendetta was an early experiment of Alan Moore.

Mormons

Alan Moore has done better than V for Vendetta. Watchmen, of course, and Promethea…

Libertine, the fact that I saw people wearing those Guy Faulwkes masks at a pro-terrorist rally this summer, because of the V for Vendetta movie, just makes me disguisted with the entire comic/movie etc

the NRA store. If you dont buy your stuff there, your an anti gun liberal gayette

Herzen: pro-terrorist rally?

Libertine, Yes, Pro-Hezbollah http://www.zombietime.com/stop_the_us_israeli_war_8_12_2006/IMG_8049.JPG http://www.zombietime.com/stop_the_us_israeli_war_8_12_2006/ Pro-Terrorist

they look young. probaly students too young to even remmeber when V first came out.

“Wannabe anarchists wearing Guy Fawkes masks manufactured in China as promotional items for the corporate-financed pro-anarchism film V for Vendetta. “

dam it. white baseball caps. Just what I want. To show the world my sweat

Fawke him

the irony of Guy Fawkes as a celebrated hero is his pro-catholic agenda.

dam it to hell. I think the clothing on the NRA store was designed by cops, who are always the last to ‘get’ it, re dress. Libertine’s baseball cap says “Italian Power”

it does?

Why the hell is Guy Fawkes a celebrated hero anyways

sweet; ferrari.

He failed first of all He rolled on his buddies second of all

What surprises me is that these pro-terror rallies go un-opposed by patriotic rallies

and hes pro-Catholic

Herzen: yep; all bad things

I know I’d try to join up with an anti-terrorist rally if there was one opposing a pro-terrorist rally..

e-Hernick, There is usually a contigent of counter-protestors, but its much smaller e-Hernick, then again most of that occurs in Berkeley etc That one is San Francisco Where its common place for people to hold signs like “nazi kikes out of Lebanon” http://www.zombietime.com/stop_the_us_israeli_war_8_12_2006/

whoa, theydo have some nice caps

http://www.zombietime.com/stop_the_us_israeli_war_8_12_2006/IMG_7966.JPG

http://www.nrastore.com/nra/Products.aspx?cat=HATS

i desire… ice cream

Twobar, I picked up a nice cap during the summer, let me get a link

ok

Twobar, http://6-besh.tripod.com/flags/newd/Navy-Ships/NS-REAGAN-CVN-76.jpg

Twobar this is what you need mang http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bikerleatherz.com/1175l.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bikerleatherz.com/pants.htm&h=360&w=360&sz=10&hl=en&start=25&tbnid=DNtU2KtwSzS7RM:&tbnh=121&tbnw=121&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dleather%2Bpants%2B%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26rls%3DGGLG,GGLG:2006-17,GGLG:en%26sa%3DN

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