11.27.07

I wonder how much the president cares about the sectarian violence in Iraq I mean the whole rational for the Iraq

Posted in Politics at 3:51 pm by Michael Johnson

I just find it humorous that you’re all like.. I know some gun-toting lesbian bikers and truckers in Berkeley

Wiretaps without warrants?

you’d better buy a tinfoil helmet, cause the dems will control congross as of jan 2, 2007

You want Hillary inheriting that shit?

and don’t go near any buildings better stay in your trailer

OOOoooOO I want to beat the ever living shit out of a programmer. The simple software for my new HOTAS rebooted my computer, without any warning/permission/ability to stop.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=25694http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20061128-122902-7522r.htm — Read through these articles

Timur, Not some

ok, a lot!

Almost all I know own guns.

hyperbole HYPERDUPERBOLIC

her name was Bertha.. she was a pistol packing carpet muching mama who meant business!

asstritch

Ive had them say to me, dont tell anyone, but I have a gun, I said, hey, I have no problem with that, I have guns too.

if hillary becomes prez the tampon will become the official flower of Texas.

These are liberals.

The sky isnt falling

and she had hairy forearms

you mean Cathy/Mathew

Hillary has nothing to do with texas

I fear the freeway much more than terrorists

But they dont believe in the anti gun position. For women guns is the on thing which can protect them against ANY MAN

no, the sky is not falling. I can see that. the dems want to pretend 9/11 didn’t happen though

Our flower is the bluebonnett and it will remain that way

lighten up

no they don’t

say who?

It makes them equal to ANY MAN in a dispute which could end up in rape or murder

FISA regime is all we need for terrorist surveillance in the USA

you are describing Matthew, aka Cathy here.. a transexual pistol packing carpet muching mama who meant business!

FISA works

what in the last 5 years have the dems done towards protecting this country?

Wiretap first, ask later

dems have been trying to sweep 9/11 under the rug for over 4 years now. They NEVER mention its impact when debating anything, i.e. economy

If guns are banned in Berkeley it will be efiminate men and heterosexual weak women.

Too damn much!

holy shit

what in the last 5 years have the dems done towards protecting this country? give me a specific!

It wont be lesbians or secure males and females.

They voted for the “Patriot Act”

what a great find

fear is do to insecurity and ignorance usually

ah, didn’t realize you were acquainted w/one. .

do = due

I did

unless you have an imminent threat.

considering that the republicans have controlled all 3 parts of the government for the last 3 years, how can you ask what the democrats have done?

they voted! c’mon! name a bill they proposed

APIS is requesting voice

duh

i just downloaded the old movie bugsy malone movie with scott baio and jodie foster

I don’t keep up with those losers Bill

i havent seen this shit since i was like 8

FreeTame proper self defense training and carrying a weapon often is enough to make a woman feel far more confident.

but if there were a terrorist attack in your neighborhood which I would never worry about because its unlikely but it IS possible, if you are not armed what are you going to do ?

they proposed unionizing airport screeners, and argued for granting rights to terrorists

but you’d have us under an authoritarian state if you had your way

Your at their mercy you are thier boy

of course democratic lawyers HAVE forced the US supreme court to order the closing of secret CIA prisons

That is NOT conservative

there slave, they own you They can torture kill or kidnap you.

Conservative == conservation of liberties under the Constitution economic liberty personal liberty

But see I have been a victim of statistics and almost was killed by a random occurrence with an ex convict from the penitentiary

and also caused the USSC to order that all prisoners in guantanamo have access to an attorney

Liberal == Changing to authoritarianism

So believe me things can happen that you would never anticipate..

but adhering to the US Constitution has been a democratic pasttime for decades

Therefore, BillFrugg is a liberal!

lol

jhicks, attacking me does not answer my question. don’t change the subject jhicks, fuck off!

jhicks: amen to that

you attacked me first!

I did not!

You can be all peaceful with good karma and everything and a random event can happen. all I could think of in that split second was, GUn Gun, where is a gun and Ididnt have one.

asstrich

And I almost died because I didnt have one.

see?

Ive told the channel this story..

you can’t discuss things, so you start labeling me as a liberal, despite having no clues

you called me an asstrich first yew libral!

but adhering to the US Constitution has been a democratic pasttime for decades –this is a pure case of total denial. “Liberal” Democratics believe the Constitution can be interpreted loosely, always have always will. the living breathing document crap

hehe

I saved 2 other lives too, I resorted to a ski pole for a weapon

something weird happened to my mouse pointer icon how can I refresh it

jhicks, if i was a liberal, i’d be siding with the dems

downhill skiing pole.

besides rebooting

go full screen DOS mode then back

i dont think youre a liberal homeboy mainly due to the fact that im not fully entertain and laughing mu ass off yet, but alas

no, you’re a liberal republican

Oh Im missing th enews cause I am not paying attention time to pu tthis down bye

lol

there does exist such a thing

jhicks, then what, pray tell, are you?

ok

people can call me all sorts of bad names… fag, stupid, moron, pedophile…but NOBODY calls me a Liberal!

thanks

A secessionist I hate you all

this channel is morefun than saturday night live

Liberal and Proud

jhicks, you also have a very short memory. you put me on ignore many times

f*** em if they cant take a joke

I can’t hear that, I’m ignoring you

I want a bumper sticker that says “LIBERAL, and I Apologize”

nothing to apologize for

brb, reboot

freedom of conscience

yet

I don’t think Charles Manson was sorry about anything either.

oh so you are equating me with charles manson? Is that the best you can do?

he was sorry he hung out with the beach boys!

hahahaha I would be too

how pathetic

I want one that sez… Why are the GOP Bigger spenders than DEmocrats?

MiDave, just wait…

hehe

spending on an investment is always good

What investment?

Govy is not an investment

Dems have already backed off on the earmarks pledge

unless you are investing in latter tyranny

the private secrtor does the investments, last time I looked. sector

The deferred taxes are coming too tax cuts my ass

I know libs are god awful myopia, but an Iraq ally will be a BIG strategic and economic feather in our cap

You can’t raise spending and cut taxes

thank god the republicans made government smaller, and cut spending

i just wonder how far back the retroactive tax hikes will go this time

tax cuts mean nothing if inflation steals your wealth as fast as a tax cut does

you’ve gotta cut spending dammit

6 or 1/2 dozen of the other

wars don’t last forever

both notions are retarded

the war on terror will

cut the spending……taxes will go down

jhicks, more appropriately, cut borrowing

nations at war don’t last forever for certain

cut the spending…you wont have to raise taxes

true

no problem with either of those statements

the hundred years war only lasted a hundred years. not forever.

you have impressed me with your comments

trapezoid….and you think the Dems will end this WAr on Terrorism?

no

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4084/snowwindow2mi9.jpg

Dems will go the other way and APPEASE terrorists

but they will probably end the war in iraq

i guarantee they will escalate it./.

You can’t have a war on a tactic dammit

semantics

It’s like giving the govt a blank check

“In this first stage at least, Zawahiri seems to have found his “useful idiot” in Mrs. Pelosi.”

hehe BillFrugg 2008! Hell, I’ll be your campaign manager Bill!

Govt is not reason nor eloquence…It is force,,and like fire…it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master

who was that MiDave?

You mean a secessionist working with a liberal republican?

sure, why not I’m just in it for the corruption

Newsflash….Democrat and Republican Parties suck equally

MiDave, no. just foley

It was the words of a terrorist against the British

oh

George Washington

MiDave+++

George Washington was a terrorist?

newsier flash.. Libertarians suck because they don’t follow through on their creed and act more like liberals

The British thought so

heh

yeah im a anarcho-liberal

I don’t think so.

perspective You’ve gotta be kidding

wyou mean you quit the michigan militia? damn

no, according to the definition.. not a terrorist.

the michigan militia

classic liberals maybe

that’s a really .. bad comparison.

is that the best you can do after 7 years?

not new-deal liberals

Timur, got your cursor back?

yea

yay!

soon as the reboot began, back like a charm, thanks

there is no michigan militia….quit watching CNN Trapezoid

if the brits had won, washington would be known as a traitor and mutineer

gonna check for spyware now

all that pr0n surfing is gonna get you man!

ok, perhaps, but not a terrorist.

maybe a mouskateer also

my favorite is when all the icons go black

damn, but shavedgoats.com was my fave.

hehe *perk*

same as benedict arnold is not known as a terrorist

shaved goats?

Washington did use snipers against innoncent bystanders… err.. officers.

mmmmm

shaved goatse?

Also, sneak attacks. They were SLEEPING.

sh

Those damn Prussians

Hessians8 *

oh yeah

right. not all traitors are terrorists, though some may be.

Cossacks!

them too bastards!

bbl…gotta help someone choose a laptop

Timur, but we can negotiate with them!

can we?

George Washington hated partisans

choose a laptop? nharris working in retail?

And John Adams almost ruined the republic!

John Adams… Is that the alchohol?

he was a faig

then Jefferson came around and made it all good again

Jefferson fucked up though

go Jefferson!

The Louisiana Purchase

can’t think too highly of someone with wooden teeth…

too bad hamilton was killed in a duel

It could have been France underwater!

too bad?

yeah a true federalist

Aaron Burr should have gotten a medal

bah! yeah killing that bastard

hamilton dying changed the future of the country

hamilton started the first bank in the usa

its amazing how all those circumstances came together

the bank of new york which is still operating

yeah Hamilton was a statist extrodinaire

NO NATIONAL BANKS DAMIT #)(@$U*(# hehe

hamilton was a genius

i wish he woulda been shot 20 years earlier

the Fed is almost a national bank

but he would have ended up destroying the country

He longed for royal rule Elitist pig

hamilton was born poor

yeah down wif da man he was an orphan

yeah but he wanted to be a duck

considering some of the buffoonery voting on stuff has given us….

yeah

er, duke

i wonder if we might not be better off with a monarchy

came from one of the sugar islands in the caribbean

born in the Dominican Republic?

never!

hamilton was gay

i heard Hamilton slept with Abe Lincoln

heh maybe not technically gay, but he was said to be very swishy

well..it was Hamiltons corpse

well he DID sleep in the lincoln bedroom

and given to dramatics

uhm Abe was gay but too late for Hamilton

lincoln wasn’t gay

was2!

give me a break

Lincoln loved the log

yeah

there’s not academic merit to that

lincoln was transsexual

I was aiming more for a vicious smear

a few presidents had rumors

Abe wasnt really shot..it had a sex change and lived out its life as Abigail Lincoln in Haight -Asbury

hard to put any weight into it

ok, clothes to wash toodles

some people are simply asexual too

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nice fix

eww… guliani.. if he wins the next presidency we will know that americans want a police state hehe

guliani; he had so much promise as a libertarian.. then he went all fascist.

giuliani’s great grandfather was mussolini’s cousin

i’d vote for him he’s better than arnold

arnold seems like a inoffensive centrist.

i would vote for him to be shot in Times Square

probaly what this country needs for awhile.. too bad he can’t run

i would not vote for anyone whose great grandfather was mussolini’s cousin

yeah, because don’t forget, sins are inherited

i wouldnt vote for anyone who had 0.1% of the genetic code that mussolini did

and yet, ironically, all humans share up to 90+% of their DNA as you were, private

?

wow 20 minutes of calm

!

did you want to discuss this article http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1162378506069&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

lol. the Illustrator for X-Man died wearing Superman Pajamas, and with his Superman Blanket.

people have too much time on their hands…check this out fed courts say paper money is unfair to the blind http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,232503,00.html

indeed

yeah that should be cheap. replacing ALL of our money yeah we got money for that

it’s replaced anyway, every now and then just change it starting next printing run

lets change our spotlight system for traffic as well

I want money where each denomination smells different

stoplight

and tastes different

scratch n sniff

yeah

that smells like a 100 baby

I demand my rights stupid and it ain’t worth a plug Euro

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8719/imakekb3.jpg

I think American money should be made long enough that with only one fold it will serve as useable toilet paper get yer money’s worth

nah, it should have secret messages depending on the way you fold it like, burning WTC towers, maconic signs, illuminati stuff

thats it. Like Mad Magazien Fold Ins

Hraban: eh, it already has masonic messages and signs. Hraban: we need something new.

satanic signs then

Luibertine level headed those founders real squares

Hraban: well you can say the masonic symbols are satanic.. but thats also already been done. pilgrim`: ug.. bad jokes about sons of windows.. how droll you are today :P er widows. hrm.. Bill Gate’s Windows Sons..

the son of windows? nose!

well I see I failed to make the assay Buill was sitting in the chair Balmer threw

pilgrim`: microsoft shouldn’t worry about beating google and instead let google beat themselves. if microsoft really wants to beat google; they’ll do it with PR; plenty of fear campaigns WOULD work against google given their past history with adsense and other privacy invading business models.

libertine, http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/index.php?p=119&tag=nl.e589

you can’t beat google, just like you can’t beat microsoft, unless you find a replacement

Microsoft need not worry. they are creating a turd of their own. have you played with Vista? Vista is to operating systems what Jack the Ripper was to durgery surgery it most truely and assuredly suckets buckets

pilgrim`: thats insulting to serial killers through out history…

Zune will give you clear ideas of how Microincontinence thinks

pilgrim so you’ll be staying with Apple IIe?

eh, i like my zune.

http://flx-tech.net/

it’s is; about the same turd that the ipod is. open im hoping to see zune get hacked easier.

yes redfish. it still works. like my stalk phone. why change

with the wifi hardware; i have high hopes.

Libertine I thought of getting one…its a cheap price for a 30gb drive wifi is only for zune to zune

pilgrim`: it has a bigger vid screen than the video ipod.

so?

pilgrim`: currently; it’s still wifi hw; so a hack or s/w update could open that up

the vide screen there is for preview. if you want to WATCH somethign you pipe to a larger screen

eh.. i use my zune to watch vids while in lines.

I don’t even watch on my computer; I pipe it to the TV that link… http://flx-tech.net/ note the error screen. the last pic Microsoft’s idea of a practical error screen is a splash picture of a girl being Raped?

pilgrim`: i like it…

error. we cannot ream you more. closed wallet error please call your sales rep

it’s good to be back.

hi Back

cute. i guess not much discussion going on in here..that’s different

we all came to consensus. now the world is all fine. If it breaks again we will discuss more

wow I gues I missed that memo and based on what i’m watching, so did bill o’reilly

he wasn’t invited to the 9 unknown men world salvation and beer bust conference in Tibet

lame maybe I can incite something um..freetrade is a neocon boob

he was a golf caddy once well that, and the fact I am heading home tears it. bye

vista is out on msdn…

why waste perfectly good bandwidth on a microsoft product

I wonder how much the president cares about the sectarian violence in Iraq… I mean the whole rational for the Iraq war was to make the world a safer place, does he realized that cause of the faulty information and failing policies that tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians have been killed?

and created more terrorists.

at least 10s of thousands

like, i just wonder if he ever thinks about ‘oh gee, maybe iraq was a mistake since people are being brutally murdered by the scores everyday’

and yeah, made a new safe haven for terrorists

nah, the peace thing was a ruse to get the more treehugging kinds of us to go along

i think he knows

the us’s just there for the oil

i dont think he knows.

but he has yet to admit it publicly

the man goes to sleep at 10 PM and spends 30 minutes of his day working out.

he would prefer to sweep it under the rug

he sleeps like a baby. but i mean, lets face it you guys he’s doing a pretty good job

I agree

…for a retarded individual.

I mean i just have a real hard time sleeping at night when MY decisions are responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands, does he realize that his failed policies and his bogus information and ultimately his decisions are responsible for those innocent civilians?

nobody is innocent

babies are innocent

I mean, not a single terrorist attack on US soil in 5 years, eat your hearts out, dems!

i mean the casualities in iraq make september 11th look like a family picnic

babies yes, are innocent. i fail to understand the terrorists, suicide bombers thinking using them as human shields

hey hraban, my shoelaces are made of rhinoceros repellant there hasn;t been a rhino in my neighborhood for 30 years it *must* be working!

I just wonder if the president realizes what his actions and policies have caused as far as the tens of thousands of dead civilians in Iraq? If he does, why not an apology, if he doesn’t how can not realize that his actions are the sole reason why these people are dying?

they do it for the world publicity ummm

you didn’t see sectarian slaughter on this level with saddam in power, so in a sense, the president has made the world an unsafer place

1984, nody is arguing with you but why keep repeating the obvious? nobody

hah! you should’ve bought my rhinoceror repellant rock

1984, you’re saying, that the US’s actions are responsible for more deaths that those caused by saddam?

no he’s not he’s saying that the course of US action is far from the most optimal way in minizing the deaths in that region

quite the contrary, the more we kill abroad, the less there’re who can come to the US

its not relative to saddam, its relative to intelligent planning.

well i amnot sure WHAT he is saying saddam surely killed a lot of people

sounds like a repit bot to me

well i know some of you voted for bush, and i know some of you now wish you hadn’t, but why does the american public’s opinion have to be so fickle when it comes to foreign policy? it’s like oooh september 11th let’s kill muslims (and american people/congress back that idea) and now everybody’s like oh we hate bush, how did he get into power

not to mention the millions of iranians who died in his attack on their country in the 80s

I agree, people should just choose one opinion and stick with it damnit! not change it, despite what may happen!

1984, cause we are a simple people

everybody’s off the bush bandwagon now, but the majority of americans were kissing his a few years ago

not as bright as others hraban i agree i hate people who change their minds!

yeah, stupid flipfloppers

i hate bush since the beginning, thought he stole the fuckin 2000 election, thought he was swine from the get-go after sept 11, people were calling me terrorist-lover and whatnot cause i didn’t support bush

dont change horses in midstream

now those people are completely on the other side of the fence

must be abour prayer time for you isn’t it? you face east, don’t you?

the mexican side?

i dont see what strategy the american democrats are going to run next election.. theres not going to be a pullout over the next two years, so that campaign is a non-flyer..

i prefer sitting ON the fence that way i am always right doesn’t really matter what they run on

you remind me of john kerry

people hate the republicans so much all the dems have to do is not make a mess

pull out! then the whole world will see what iraq is like without the usa

yeah, it’s terrible sad to see how these americans who once loved bush’s arrogant cowboyesque foreign policies, are pretending like they’ve never even supported him, these people are the true swine, even worse than bush

trapezoid - but now they have to put up.. and they cant.. iraq will carry on much the same for the next two years people voted for change, and they cant deliver it

SWINE not until january, at least

my my, aren’t we captain hyperbole tonight…

Who, in particular, is running from Bush who supported him in the past (besides Bill O’Reilly)? Because I haven’t really seen that.

Pickle: eh, some radio talk show hosts; mostly small syndication guys.

just look at how the polls go after sept 11th from almost total approval to where they are now, world of differnece

Oh. I thought you meant real people, not actors.

Pickle: even Glenn Beck seems to have distanced himself. the new mantra is “iraq was righ, but bush handled it wrong” right. typo

Glenn Beck is a nincompoop. It’s part of his act.

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Bush wasn’t in Iraq on September 11, 2001. People supported him because to that point he was doing a reasonably good job, at least in the opinions of most people. This is not “kissing Bush’s ass”.

I just wish the voters and the American public could have the balls to say “Yeah, I voted for Bush in 2000, and in 2004 and I support his decisions now just like I did then”, but you don’t have very many of these types left. More and more people distance themselves from this administration each day, but sad thing is these people lie about supporting and voting for bush to begin with, cause they don’t want to be seen as the ones responsible fo such a double standard in the american public as far as supporting this administration goes

1984, will it make you feel better if i say…i did, and i do?

half the US voters in 2000 did NOT vote for bush duh so don’t be an ass more thanhalf voted for gore

so you want people to support Bush?

So, voting for someone based on their record as of 2004 means you have to like what he’s going to be doing in 2006? That’s interesting, but most people lack your psychic abilities.

i didn’t vote for bush either time, (libertarian); but if I had; wouldnt you be happy that he was abandoned? you sound bitter people turned on him?

it’s not that, it’s just like after 9/11 this whole patriotic revenge theme kinda kicked in, and the entire country backed the president decision to invade iraq and afghanistan. i wish people who supported bush then would not pretend like they didn’t now

I guess if I get married in 2004, I can’t get a divorce in 2006 if my wife fucks around, because I endorsed all possible future choices she would have made in her life when I married her.

first off, do not equate afghanistan with iraq

ok, ill rephase ‘the war on terror’

the only good war against terror is a war of terror

Most people still want patriotic revenge. Bush hasn’t delivered, which is part of the problem.

i am fine with troops in afghanistan

even conservatives dislike bush..

and to be honest i was concerned when we attacked iraq cause it diminished our forces in afghanistan

Instead, Bush focussed on “nationbuilding” in the territories he demolished. This was a huge mistake from a public relations standpoint.

the taliban, who gave safe haven to those folks who attacked new york city, are back

He should have done what Borat suggested.

Pickle: drink their blood?

Throw the Jew down the well.

Hhe

borat has said.. so many things…

iraq is certainly more problematic

“I support your war of terror.”

a huge PR job was done to convince not only americans, but the UN and the world, that iraq had terrible weapons at their disposal and people who recalled 9/11 had no desire to wait and see if it were true

it’s like after september 11th, people get all emotional and start wanting revenge (remember that post 9/11 muslim backlash?i do) and start kissing bush’s ass to go invade some country, now after iraq has turned into a quagmire the american people are a little more rationale and reasonable that they can finally see their own flaws in supporting bush

Bush’s popularity would probably still be around 90% if he’d adopted the kind of “eye for an eye” policy that 1984 is pretending he did. It wouldn’t be terribly effective, of course.

well you live in montana? how would you like it if all 6 of the people in that state with you were attacked by buffalo?

1984…guess what..i never supported any of these stupid wars….i knew they wouldnt accomplish their objective….

you might go after them?

Bush invaded Afghanistan, not Iraq, in response to 9/11, and that decision retains American support.

i supported the attack on the taliban, and still do

I support anything that gives me great tv

good for you

and i didn’t vote for bush and never would

youre part of the problem

me? nah

hell, even your michigan militia sent a contingent

hrm.. House is on…

you can’t find a TV in belgium? go to amsterdam

the Michigan militia are liberals like you

amsterdam has far better things than TV. most of which you smoke.

afghanistan has way better smoke than amsterdam and america is there, liberating the hashish!

everytime someone tells me what a horrid world we’d live in if we legalized drugs.. i always wonder… do people from Amsterdam take offense? i’d be insulted..

Hey, it’s paying off. In recent months I’ve seen authentic gold seal pass through here for the first time in memory. Along with some amazing moroccan.

! really? nice

thats Oxo cube

why do u think the CIA has stepped up recruitment…they need a dealer on every corner aint no muscle like FedGov muscle

man, is that a black helicopter i see flying overhead?

i read the cia is recruiting again

and hey..as the CIA increases shipments,,,,we can increase the DEA to counter it

once upon a time CIA was allowed to walk on campus and pick and choose

no thats the GOP Koolaid Man refreshing your drinks mmm im partial to Choo Choo Cherry

oh hey this thing is finally fixed?!?

hey sals

hiya

Bush, Cheney, Rice and Co. insinuated many times that al-qeada has links to iraq/saddam, they all claimed they recieved faulty information later but it’s pretty obvious that the plans for iraq invasion were gonna be mixed in general scheme of ‘the war on terror’

#philosophy is driving me nuts

Basically America wrote Bush a blank check after 9/11 and now that price is climbing faster and faster

1984 there are/were ties between alQ and Saddam — thats been proven –

the price is climbing faster and faster? based on what?

Well, no, actually Bush stated outright that there was no such direct link. Bush did insinuate, probably correctly, that Saddam remaining in power increased the likelihood of another attack on American soil. And it’s really neither here nor there: Afghanistan, not Iraq, was invaded as a response to 9/11.

and of course what does America do when it has a problem? throw some money at it or blow it to kingdom come

the price is right!

1984 and do not forget Saddam offered 25k to every family who would use one of their children as suicide bombers in Isreal

no Saddam was gonna give em WMD with every suicide bombing get the falacies straight now

what kind of idiot is this l984

seems 1984 is not even looking at responses

I was hoping once I got back in here I would see some decent chat

just spouting

b/c Yahweh knows its my duty to protect Israel

hi salstress - to answer that question — might take something even more than just calling he/she/it an idiot

apparantly someones dissapointed

trap - of course not — noted for that

saddam was a great leader though

apparently it is not enough now to be against the war in iraq

at a way to hush a population !

that doesn’t even make sense, Kaliuna

one must apologize for not opposing it strongly enough in 2003

It’s just completely obvious the American people were duped into a bogus war, based on bogus information, after their emotions were rallied up after 9/11. The administration played on the fears of the public, and the majority of the American public took the bite, now the majority of Americans wishes they hadn’t.

or far before 2003 cant say your much off there.

salstress well you kinda had to be here — this person has been spouting similar for some time;’ shorthand for my answer - 1984 needs psych eval

thats pretty much indisputable

yes, and….. why keep repeating the obvious?

wow…the rightwing foaming has begun…

easy partisan

even colin powell said “break it, and you own it”

no one kicked the elephant

reminds me of the early 90’s

no, the media has been doing an anti-war spin job on us for 5 years that is much influenced by our enemy’s propaganda, which our own press is all too willing to accept and believe because of their virulent hatred for Bush.

what happened in the early 90s?

its the medias fault Bush got us into a clusterfuck

what enemy?

salstress that too

The same thing that happened in Germany in the early 1930s.

Associated Press and Reuters have shown time and again that they were not only duped by enemy propagands but in fact were COMPLICIT in reporting it

you think the guys in iraq have the money to pay for propaganda in the usa?

pre GOP days of Congressional power the wat things were gonna change when the liberals were out..et al infinidum

pickle but the germans did not stop believing

our enemy recognizes that they cannot win this war through conventional means, and so they are fully engaged in a media propaganda war against us, which our leftist useful idiots seemed obliged to cave in to.

heh

salstress

tell me you are trolling, please

Yeah reporting when mosques are blown up or people’s bodies are found on the streets of Baghdad is nothing more than a media job. C’mon face the facts, you sound like an asshole

Actually, I was referring to Germany being defeated and allowed to rebuild.

absolutely not. this is all 100% true.

mmmmmm have you tried the Purplesaurus..its delicious

i’ve been eating them for 6 or 7 years now they’ll keep us both alive

havent got sick once?

1984 do you even think about what is happening in Iraq? or do you prefer to just laugh down your upturned nose that the americans whom you are jealous of and hate with a passion are being made to look as if we are losing. what a joke

heh

we are NOT losing.

1984 - we’ve put up with your nonsense and YOU are calling others assholes? you really take the cake…

Well, we’re finding out that a half dozen people being burned alive in a mosque was a media job.

salstress..the US Army won Iraq in 4 days…the rest has been payday for govt contractors

Yeah the enemy wants us to know that what’s going on in Iraq isn’t REALLY that bad, it’s just the media hyping up the scene over there. We should just ignore the truths and facts about what’s going on Iraq by using our media to promote our president

the real test of iraq will not be known until 50 years from now - when we can see how good their cars and dvd players are..

deal with reality

many of the contractors have left too dangerous

Actually, the enemy wants us to believe that Iraq is a civilian bloodbath, and the media is accomodating them.

1984 is from Minnesota. what is a non-american doing in our country complaining about us?

minnesota?

i know 2 good friends..one is Spec Forces..the other 101st Airborne..both are leaving the military…..gee…guess why??

not montana? damn

b/c they like dying ina clusterfuck while ppl sit on IRC and talk about how they need to be there??

i can see you are in favor of charlie rangel’s idea of a draft

yeah more govt power… thats what we need

no, MiDave, al qaeda has moved in and desperately tried to seed civil war and chaos this whole time, hoping that the media would help them win their cause and make the good guys leave, which is what our defeatocrats are now planning to make happen becasue there is NO DOUBT they were tighten the purse strings, which is why we lost Vietnam, a war we were winning. The left prefers defeat.

draft is what ended the vietnam war it could end iraq too

salstress…save it….. i know better….

heh

save it?

salstress WASN’T trolling? geez

i have talked to ppl there….they arent fighting foreigners…they are fighting Iraqis

But if you look at the facts, is it not a continual thing, do they not find dead sunni bodies pretty much everyday? Do mosques not get blown up? This is the truth, the media reports on it with of course some level of bias, but it doesn’t change the fact that the Iraq insurgency is on it’s ‘last throes’

sounded so sarcastic i was sure it was a troll

there is no foreign insurgency

everything I have said is 100% true and obvious to anyone with half a brain, trapezoid.

Suicide bombings are in all cases an act of desperation.

they have been deployed in the Sunni Triangle for the last year…….all combatants were Iraqi

but i don’t have half a brain, mine is whole

how many of them are ex-baathists, MiDave? What percentage?

it doesnt matter…

a mosque here, a mosque there, hey, who is counting?

a whole lot of cheese. uh, yes, it matters, because you are lying.

uh oh

you say its a foreign controlled insurgency…i say youre wrong

the L word hey nyh

if you really KNEW anything about the situation you would know that.

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