11.27.07
i wonder when we teach multi-culturalism in schools how do we teach children about other cultures w-o passing
And I dread a Bush follower. Fortunately my Senator (Frist) realized he had zero chance of winning. Unfortunately, since Frist is coming back to my neighborhood I must now keep my cat indoors.
Swigert yep very good. We were children of the sixties, who actually lived. Although he is one of the few who remembers
i mean, send hillary into the lion’s den on fox news and if she comes out looking great, i’ll support her
I think you’re probably right.
Kaliuna yep it is
I have a $38 bottle of Chivas regal in my kitchen - I’ll never touch it
why swigert?
i loathe alcohol - I bought it for a family member
it just dirves me nuts we are the great satin and we have women all naked islam says we are heathean and they chant it in the streets then want to see porn on the computer fucking Hippo’s
Swigert, drink it down, go to the nudie bar and get all your money ripped off
I’ll pay for postage to Britain if you want to get rid of it
other stuff.
Swigert got a lap dance from Dick Durbin
sorry dude - I’m really, really cheap and I don’t treat women that way worst I’ll do is hooters, which I haven’t done for a while
SweetLeaf: be thankful; arabs can’t destroy us; they need the west to supply them their weird fetish porn.
Awww, they like getting treated that way. That’s how they get money.
sweetleaf, great satin ? Are you sure its not ‘Great Stain’ ?
Swigert, sneak the champagne in and trade it for lap dances
sweetleaf everyone’s a hypocrite, ESPECIALLY in the middle east
Arab porn must be some weird ass stuff
it’s all posture, everything there
ah yes.. America the Great Satin Sheet..
it’s cultural
camels and shit
I’m not a hypocrite. I’m a hyppogryph.
OK BOYS… do I gotta get the whip out
Arab p0rn = hairy women
What ever we need porn with mohamed doing it with a horse or something
tribal sheikhs will trade away their shirts in private as long as they can bluster in public
or non-hairy men
I heard of a Muslim teenager in Ontario who dresses like any ordinary white girl her age = except she wears a Burqua over top.
Yeah, burqa with midriff top and miniskirt is so in this season.
god forbid muslims ever watch South Park and learn their profit was in an episode working with jesus and other religious figures… tho their profit did have wicked cool fire breath.
hafez assad killed 20,000 people in hama and then in the official press release claimed to have killed 30,000
You couldn’t pay me enough money to live over in an Arab country. I like women too much
“Muhammad, my son, pull up your robe and display your jewels for me
Profit? Heh.
yeah
Aufklaren: it’s like a prophet; only it makes money.
Swigert its only a matter of time. I maintain that the burqua will become the fashion statement of the american liberal male
Cool. Why didn’t my careers adviser ever tell me about it?
if your a guy do you maybe marry two tons o love cause it is covered by a burka??
well so long as liberals wear them, okay
“hey, I am sick of Levi’s. What’s wrong with a burqua ?”
If you have to cover your women up so you can’t see them there’s something wrong, I’m sorry
it’s sexual jealousy.
yeah
two tons of massive babe love
Zomg other guys have sex with women, so we have to cover them up lolz!
Twobar is a trophy wife
It’s like that guy you knew who tried to prevent you from getting laid.
Darth, actuallly, no. but my hand is.
The blocker.
them jews have to cut a hole in a sheet to do it
“Hey, man, you PROMISED me a lift home. Why do you have to go off with that girl?”
And I see pictures of the Middle East with guys holding hands. I’m cool with that shit if people want to do it but I’m sorry, those folks are in denial
Then they go on to develop internalised hatred of women.
what do you call them
good pmmmmmmmmmm
That’s a myth, SweetLeaf.
I now have my expert knife badge, and just need to find a pistol server to get my expert pistol badge
Mastrick ROFL
IMO they need to come out of the closet
it was on larry david they were making fun
Look how they treat women. Dam right they develop an internal hatred of them
Swigert good job shankin folks
then there’s the honor killings.
now I don’t have to do it anymore! I can just shoot them
Islam isn’t really the reason for the bad treatment of women.
Timur yes. Very 14th century
Gromit I bet the female just pulls up the nitie heh
Timur-: Yeah, because it’s so honourable to kill your daughter for having sex.
They used to kill first-born females before Mohammed.
or sister, or cousin, or whomever
Timur-: I imagine all my mates down the pub would give me some serious respect if I offed my sister for having sex before marriage.
Gromit that doesnt explain it all. Only that one aspect
Mohammed was a pervert
Aufklaren haha
i thought Mohammed was a boxer
thats shakes
what is so honorable about killings ?
Muhammad was Barbera Boxer in a past life
Saints touchdown!
Aufklaren: that’ll teach her; if you smite her proper; she can’t do it again.
Better yet, let’s get a bit of female castration on the go.
ishi, dont you believe in killing your sister if she has sex and isnt married ?
Boxer should wear a burka
any here use itunes
your mates are Muslim radicals?
I wouldn’t want to have a slutty daughter.
Because cutting off her clitoris is just their CULTURE, doncha know?
wierd the new version is wierd
I was on Karkand earlier - 2 MEC drive up in a Vodnik towards the west USMC base = they didn’t see me on the anti-tank missile launcher.
how does one have it auto check all dir for yoru music
Aufklaren dam right
The clitoris thing is mainly an African tradition.
AT LEAST cut off the clitoris
careful, you almost make it sound as if you’re disparaging a wonderful culture.
Timur, hmm, good gawd. Well, I shore dont mean to do that, no sir
Swigert the new patch seems to have upped the boom tube, I was actually wacking choppers with the thing
well, you know.
50% of arab women are illiterate, just the way Twobar likes em
Timur, I better watch it. How about if I start naming all the positive things ?
Timur-: I dunno, but I’m beginning to suspect it. My mate Bazza is beginning to worry me. Every time he orders his pint he brandishes a scimitar and screeches, “The head better not be bigger than two inches or I’ll cut off your head, infidel!!”
can I ask a question?
sure, let’s. They place a premium on hospitality and the poetry of their language. they have great food.
another time, by the train wreck, I saw a Vodnik bombing down the ramp. Big surprise! I bagged an Mi-28 on Sharqi with the AT another time, by the train wreck, I saw a Vodnik bombing down the ramp. Big surprise! I bagged an Mi-28 on Sharqi with the AT
Swigert I like wacking choppers with the TOW
From a societal standpoint, the evolution of countries in that part of the world is about 300-400 years behind the rest of the world
Timur, well I actually named all the positive things, I’m afraid 
I was wondering what you all thought was the value discussing politics on chat like this
DarthBurg likes to wack himself with a mackeral
Swigert and I shot down a cobra with a tank’s main gun, AFTER he was stupid enough to make a pass on my vehicle.
mastrick depends on which aspect of society you’re talking about… they’re plenty sophisticated
yes it is fun. This one time I nailed a brand-new full strength M1A2 with a TOW from behind - hit it on the back of the turrett. It blew up a coupld of seconds laters.
pittsburg, why does something have to have a “value” ?
they’re in a war phase right now though
well, there’s some more.
done that = super fun
Timur oh hehe
still, those good things don’t excuse in any way the bad things.
Ever played a video game? What value did that have?
Swigert “Get a gunner!” hehe
I just figure people are on here of their own free will for some reason
Timur, that is definitely for sure
entertainment, then?
TV
yeash it’s true
i wonder when we teach multi-culturalism in schools… how do we teach children about other cultures w/o passing judgement on some of their practices; take an easy one; much of the arab world’s views and treatment of women?
pittsburg, you may have discovered that there are chat channels for any topic or idea you can think of. Probably tens of thousands of them.
hopefully next year I’ll get a better PC so I can play BF2
libertine i think we can’t help passing judgement
Well you have to assume that much of the Islamic-oriented world is at a crossroads. Ten years ago Saudis were offended by American female GIs wearing T shirts and they were outraged at seeing Saudi women driving cars. WTF is that?
i mean we can use weasel words to let the students do the judgement passing themselves
what’s changed?
yeah mastrick
They still do, don’t they?
it’s brittle though, that stuff
Truthfully I don’t know
Last time I checked the BBC, female reporters till have to wear head coverings.
they can’t hold out against MTV forever
Swigert knock on wood, but my liquid cooled p4 3 gig HT is running very nice these days.
The Muslim world needs a Reformation
unfounded: one would think american schoolgirls would at least see the problem with it
have you tried Euro Forces or Armored Fury?
It needs an Enlightenment, not a Reformation.
and I fixed some router issues
the more endangered they feel, the harder they fight
I respect other cultures but I sure as hell don’t want to live in a place where women are BMOs (black moving objects.)
and they’re gonna lose haha mastrick
how about both
and yeah libertine you’d think so
I like pretty women and they should not have to hide themselves
how about instead of asking “Is it God’s will”, ask “Will it work” or “will it pay”?
Swigert oh, and the WD Raptor 10k SATA drive just smokes
any one here use new version of itunes
have you tried Euro Forces or Armored Fury?
Swigert sure, very good gaming
they’ve tried, but have a long way to go. So far their reformations tend to be like, ‘let’s develop nukes while advocating terrorism and beheading and oppressing women’. see, nukes! they’re modern.
technology they have may be modern, but their ideals are ancient never tried, but would like to
Well, I’m not bothered about their own theologicaSwigert: I’m less bothered with them having a theological cockfight in the manner of the European Reformation than I am with them understanding secularism, the difference between what a country does and what some of it people think (see Danish cartoons), and the concepts of free expression. Bah, stupid back buffer.
exactly
yes, I realize that; I just thought maybe people would have an opinion about what this meeting of people might achieve. What do you think?
they are arrogant as hell - thinking that their religion is the true one (of course Christians feel the same way ) I told my dad that my gift to him this Christmas was my conversion to Islam and a copy of the Holy Qu’ran
it’s more than just religion, it’s culture, it’s east vs west, etc
Swigert: is your dad muslim?
HA!
Swigert’s dog is muslim. It keeps trying to convert him, but only during sex, when he is at his most sensitive. shrug. oh well. Cant win em all
I distrust Islam as much as all other religions
how dare you blashpeme the name of Allah!
allah ackbar and jeff nytol
hrm.. my wife is a non practicing jew, im an atheist; i think our kid should be raised a jewish atheist. hehe
But I agree with what the Pope said - it might not have been popular but it was true
Ackbar, he was a Rebel General, from Calomari
finally a child that can offend all peoples..
Islam is generally a more violent part of the world than others
uh, that is rather nerdy
You infidel running dog of the Zionist entity!
Mastrick: eh, they’re just 500 years behind us.
mastrick the middle east is more violent
It’s their problem, I’d just rather that we not be part of it
I prefer “yankee infidel”
the crescent through india and some of southeast asia isn’t particularly more violent i mean there’s lot of insurgencies and whatnot there but they’re not islamic
Nah, you have to bring the Jews into it somehow.
and it’s not more than anywhere else in the 3rd world
They’re responsible for all the worlds ills, doncha know?
yeah those damn jews and their media conspiracy
WE need to develop alternative fuels like Brazil did so we don’t have to do business with the Middle East. Just let them kill each other off, I don’t give two shits for any of ‘em, including Israel
like on FIrefly, “God will punish you!” “See that guy hanging out of the Ship there with the Really big gun? He is not really happy we came here, and itching to kill some folk. I suggest you worry about HIM.”
My mother’s side of the family is Jewish, and though they pretend otherwise I know they’ve never given up on their plans for world domination.
often the interpretation of religion ruins everything
The best alternative for the Middle East is not realistic - a big wall. Wall ‘em in and let them kill each other.
“Mind if I pray?” “Only if its out loud.” “Your dear, and fluffy lord.”
yeah brazil rules with the sugar cane ethanol
Brazil imports 0% of it’s fuel They were smarter than we were
The problem with the M.E. is a bit more complex than fuel dependency.
that wont work, eventually the pan-arabic pact will win out.
pan-arabic pact? they tried that in the 60s and 70s
We always prefer cheap alternatives like Walmart/Chinese goods and “cheap” middle east oil. Problem is that, once they obtain an oligopolistic market presence they can collude. AS they have.
egypt and syria - they could never figure out whether the capital would be cairo or damascus and it kinda fell apart from there
Pan-Arabism is about as likely as me sleeping with Liz Hurley. More’s the pity.
I will not shop at Walmart.
so it’s something neither of you wants to do
I’ll shop where I get the best for the least
No, I very much want to sleep with Liz Hurley. Her advancing years be damned.
bleck you can have her
Next time you need a job talk to Walmart. They’ll offer you a job - for chump change. They are anti-American, few of their goods are produced here.
What’s wrong with her? :p I feel she’s a fairly uncontroversial choice. I could have said Paris Hilton or Lindsay Lohan.
Mastrick - next time you are shopping elsewhere - check labels — not much of anything is prodiced here…
I will not do business with Dell either.
i’m with kali on this one
I bet Dell are weeping into their pillows.
haha aufk
Liz doesn’t do it for me
not yet…..
America needs basic industries. We cannot survive without them - Americans need to start voting with their dollars
What, are you GAY or something? :p
mastrick - they are
har har har zomg pwned.
they’re saying i would love that shirt for 2 frickin dollars please
Mastrick - then find where you can — find American made goods — even a broom
Yes unfounded they are. I mean re-vote. America now means “whatever’s cheapest.” America used to mean “built to last.”
i’m more of a Jessica Alba - Brittany Murphy - Alyssa Milano guy
The America that my parents made meant different things.
re US
mmmm. Jessica Alba
hiyas
Alba’s amazingly hot
mastrick, built to last doesn’t move fast enough… who wants a computer that’s built to last there’ll be one that’s twice as fast in 18 months screw it, gimme cheap
she’s a fake blonde though
i do agree however that there’s an issue with the phasing out of mid-grade labor from the workforce
The US used to have good schools, the best public education in the world. Now our students are not as educated as their Asian counterparts. We used to build bridges and highways to last, now we all have potholes and bridges that are crumbling. We have to do better - we have to return to our core ethics.
She’s a genuine hotty though.
Mastrick - I’ve some things in the kitchen working fine - several years old and not made in USA… and I’ve some things made in USA didn’t last 2 yrs… go figure
hehe yeah
in america the jobs are moving to the extremes, janitor or software engineer
This is a proud nation - we have to be the best, not just talk a good game.
there’s comparatively fewer “laborer” type jobs because the chinese will do them cheaper
What’s your suggestion? Somehow prevent globalisation?
mastrick we’ll kick the asian economies’ asses every day of the week for the next 50 years at least
As long as China has cheaper labour, and it’s still legal to produce there, it will continue.
their culture doesn’t rebel like ours so they won’t keep up with the pace of change they’ll be trying to settle down into a rhythm instinctually
We have to have certain core industries in case of national emergencies. We have to have good-paying jobs so that small businesses can prosper. We have to increase our standard of living.
while we instinctually shake things up
Captialist swine!!!
The “reforms” of the Bush administration have been a ripoff.
well mastrick you got a lot of work to do buddy i’ll agree on that, it’s more congress’ fault than the admin though
It’s bothj
falling into racial stereotypes much? Western - dynamic, educated, cultured. Eastern - productive, unimaginative, etc.?
worked fewer days than any congress in 100 years, passing bills that weren’t even written by elected officials
Wht ‘reforms’?
Instinctual rebellion be damned, the Chinese will win on manufacturing and industry because it *costs less*.
The main job of leadership is to coalesce public purpose. They have to get us pointed in the right direction.
aufk - i don’t stereotype individuals but i definitely stereotype groups sure but a robot’s even chepaer than a chinaman
It takes years to enact stuctural change but we have to have a consensus about where we need to go
Mastrick, what “reforms”?
That is what America sorely misses
the US manufactures more now than they did 10 years ago with fewer manufacturing jobs
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Robots are great for producing high end technology. Not great for producing shoes.
aufk for now, we’ll see i suppose
Aufklaren, say who
Or, at least, not as great as a huge assembly line on 2 cents an hour.
Aufklaren, robots can produce shoes
and yeah for producing shoes china will always be there but there’s no money in it yeah
We have to have some steel production some chemical production some technology etc.
but you can’t move up the value chain on that
Aufklaren, robots can create shoes
Now most if not all of that is offshored
if you try, someone else will undercut you
china just don’t produce shoes dummies they produce computers techonlogy and at good prices
yeah and you can automate parts of it and outsource the rest of it someplace even cheaper
if you buy a computer at a cheaper price, then you are saving 100 500 or so bucks
once the wage starts going up
that is a raise in your income
I’ve got news for y’all, China is about to pass us up. It will happen in the next ten years.
pass us in what? gdp? that’s a joke
We will be a minority power
haha, yeah sure we will 
Nah, America has a vast technological superiority.
They have a large army that will soon have significant advances militarily. Don’t think for a minute they won’t use it
In industrial capacity they might surpass the US, but not in the areas that count in terms of global power.
mastrick use it against who? the chinese aren’t dummies what do they have to gain from invading someone
Mastrick, you are full of shit, ya know that?
Read about Korea, the Chinese can fight
like taiwan? they know they’ll have taiwan in 30 years anyways without a shot fired
Mastrick, China will pass us up in what exactly ?
the chinese nation has been around for 3,000 years they’re patient
If they have a modicum of military technology we have a problem. We’ll take some casualties
Perhaps if the US tries to fight them on the Chinese mainland. But power really means power projection.
WE aren’t that stupid
Of which the chinese have none.
Mastrick, are you suggesting a Chinese attack on the US?
But Taiwan remains a sticking point They want Taiwan bigtime Guess what, most motherboards, chipsets and video chips come from Taiwan
hey
so the UN is going to put out a report after first of yr — NO GLOBAL WARMING…
mastrick, they will have taiwan within 50 years
;If they took Taiwan we’d have problems
they dont have to attack us physically, they are allready attacking our economy
I think we have a bot in the channel
Mastrick, they want Taiwan just to increase their trade surplus
they know this - they’ve been around for 3,000 years they can chill
Mastrick, as of now, they import a lot from Taiwan
TT - hi — hmm could be….
China could take Taiwan in less than a week. What would we do if they did, nuke?
HI Kaliuna
they have a plan, they’re pumping a bunch of state money into building a trading relationship with the province across the straits from taiwan
hi — Merry Christmas season to you
Mastrick, answer my question
what do you mean when you said minority power? Did you only mean the ability to produce high-end technology? Or did you mean geopolitical power?
wow
Because China can’t compete in terms of the technology required for massive geopolitical power.
mastrick - it would be a huge political nightmare situation that is in no way worth it for the chinese right now they can wait a few decades and get taiwan for free
since when can they not?
Arcane - ya just listening to drudge who has a guy on talking about it… very interesting info…
If you were chinese unfounded would you consider that chance?
they’ve got plenty of work to do solidifying their own country right now
since they’re several generations behind the Europeans, let alone the Americans?
And Taylor, forgive me but I didn’t see your question
And taking over Taiwan wont fix that?
lol where did you hear this?
lol Are you suggesting China has military technological parity with the US?
they are behind america and russia yes
Seriously, how much crack have you been smoking?
israel most likely britain too besides that
And the rest of Europe.
no, not the rest of europe
several generations behind? several generations behind in technology is like the model-T
China isn’t expected to become a developed country until 2080
Absolutely not right now. But they’re rapidly escalating their military expenditure and their power projection on that side of the world
Yes, the rest of Europe. France, Italy, etc. are still miles ahead in terms of military technology
only due to the population if you choose to believe that, okay…
skillip or like the mig-21 which i’m pretty sure they’re flying
the earth is round though
that’s several as in 2-3 generations behind
If we had to fight China we’d have to power up the entire country. We’d have to draft about a million men just to have a chance
they are not as far behind as most people think….
it’s round? no shit.
what on earth would we fight them over
Well, they’re not fighting with bows and arrows.
power taiwan
Touchdown Saints! Why in the world did the Texans pass on that guy?
lol Al Michaels
Something wrong with Texas, they always make the wrong choice. My father lives in Wimberley TX I wouldn’t say that to him
well texas is the home of george w.
i dunno, they keep putting people in the electric chair…..those were good choices
Texas = home of LBJ, the biggest shitkicker in the history of the US besides Dubya
shitkicker?
yeah 2 crappy presidents
more like dumbass
Yeah Texans wear pointed boots for a reason
who made their bones off of primarily deception
LBJ was one of the most sordid characters in American history Then we had Nixon Six o’ one, half-dozen of the other My draft lottery number was 286
Mastrick, why do you think Texans voted Bush in? Mastrick, answer me.
You can ask any American guy between 50 and 60 what his driver’s lisense number is and he might not know. But he sure can remember what his lottery number was
Mastrick, answer me.
I think they voted Bush in because they are oriented toward the gay rights, abortion rights issues as well as a belief in less government
lol
well so much for the less government
Mastrick, 3you are devoiced (Requested by TheTailor - Reason: If you aren’t a bot, mesage me for voice. )
yeah thetailor don’t be a dick he’s obviously not a bot
Really, why didn’t he answer
not necessarily a genius uh, he did and he was engaging people all night
I guess we’ll see if he messages me]
just the BOT-tom of the barrel
if he even reads the mseeage
you guys love banning for ideological reasons here and then hiding behind “oh its the rules” authoritarian modus operandi i guess
he did answer
yeah
I think they voted Bush in because they are oriented toward the gay rights, abortion rights issues as well as a belief in less government
exactly if he was 10x as dumb but a conservative, no way would he be devoiced
shhhh i never thought I would see an american channel mourn the death of pinochet
yeah seriously
its not the whole channel
Arcane — its ahh sarcasm…
http://triggur.org/japanese/videogame.jpg Thats a good reason to resume bombing Japan
is it?
kaliuna - a bunch of people were defending it earlier here so maybe not everyone got the memo
with what’s his name you never know
TheTailor made it so i can talk again I believe in discussion, apparently some others do as well. Thanks TheTailor
Arcane True — one never does know -
it depends on the kind of day he has had
My pleasure Mastrick.
totally or the “mood”
What makes this country great is that we can respect each other and listen. You just proved it.
some student from Carnegie Mellon is coming in here to interview me tonight .. he may not know how to contact me in the channel. If anyone spots him .. give me a shout
it’s true
Comet — OK
yea they were i forgot heh
The +m-m alert?
Comet - ahh how will we know him? will he ask for you?
thx
Maybe I’ll start hanging in this channel again.
kali I don’t have a clue .. lol. He just said he would be around .. I’m not sure how sophisticated he is at irc
ahhhh ok
only because pincochet eliminated the threat of soviets that is the only reason they wern’t looking at the big picture
Comet if I’m here I will yell at ya
In 2004 I got kickbanned for saying something critical about Bush, maybe we can discuss issues now
Hey CometBaby, I just emailed you
you did?
Mastrick - like what issues?
are you the one who wants to interview me?
this could be CMU
you replied to cward
it is in pittsburg
let me look
hey CMU, your cross country course blows
ok
yep
i ran on that freshman year of undergrad
do you not like baseball anymore? I havn’t seen you since bartman caught the ball
I’ll message you
CMU’s EFnet server blew too.
Bush isn’t too bad
Everything. Americans are smart people, we benefit the world when we use our intellects to help change things
there have been way worse presidents then Bush in the last 30 years
ok
Herzen: name one
Jimmy Carter
Mastrick - well what specific issues do you wish to discuss?
yeah nixon was at least competent
Plus we have things the rest of the world doesn’t have, such as outstanding football and major league baseball!
carter? carter just screwed up the hostage crisis, that’s it
You should have a student from UAlbany come in here to interview you
and wasn’t good at the permanent campaign he did, BTW, start the counterinflationary policy at the fed that we still use now
not to mention the pisspoor economy
that alone puts him way ahead of bush who hasn’t had a single economic policy ever bthat alone puts him way ahead of bush who hasn’t had a single economic policy ever/b
we are more than just one of the top rated party schools
herzen a one termer can’t be blamed for inflation they inherited and took tough steps to correct
Our pro sports RULE, outside of soccer you have to come here if you wanna make the bigtime
that induced a short term hit
unfounded, and continued until Reagan’s policies corrected it
reagan did a good job
I voted for Reagan twice and I voted for Gore too
but herzen, carter appointed volcker and started modern counterinflationary policy at the fed 10 years of out of control inflation in the 70s and carter was the guy who took steps to fix it which hurt growth in the short term but set us up for good low-inflation growth in the 80s and 90s
His touchey-feely policy towards the USSR was a failure
What I respected most about Reagan was the way he handled Iran-Contra. He admitted mistakes and did something about it
the USSR was a failure, leonid brehznev was their idiot premier
The American people are by their nature forgiving They just don’t being lied to Reagan fessed up and we forgave him immediately Clinton should have listed to that
Clinton was pretty crummy too Not as bad as Carter
yeah god forbig a balanced budget for the first time since WWII shrank the size of gov’t
but Clinton will be remembered as a caretaker president less important than like Taft
only president just about ever well he was a caretaker but a damned good one
I never voted for Clinton but I sure missed him after the clown took over
he ran a tight ship on every domestic issue
besides, Clinton didn’t shrink the size of government he just shrank the military and expanded the social side of government
Clinton always impressed me as being shady
Which is the opposite of what needs to happen
I couldn’t vote for him
shrinking government isn’t a good independent of other goods, for which many government must maintain, even grow.
Mastrick, you do know theis channel is for adults right? Your characterization of Bush as “clown” is childish.
But on the whole Clinton’s policies were good. He dismantled the welfare state and his macroeconomic policies *would have* balanced the budget Although I disagreed with our sending troops to Bosnia that turned out to be an effective solution
Mastrick, other than signing it, Clinton had nothing to do with welfare reform. Mastrick, we didn’t send troops. I think it was just air power.
1. We have a clearly-defined objective; 2. We have overwhelming force superiority and 3. There is a clearly-defined exit strategy Sound familiar?
US_Fem !!!!
TO KICK ASS!
Mastrick well, then we wouldn’t have used them agains the japanese by that standard
To Mastrick’s list, I’ll add #4. The objective clearly defined turns out to have a basis in truth.
Other countries have to understand that we fight only reluctantly. But when we do we’ll clobber you! That is what we’re about - we are winners. Touchdown Saints!
Cowboys are gettin’ a whoopin’. I love it!
That’s the America I believe in.
Alas that it was not my Giants giving to them last week….
We are the best, we should act like it
yea this story has to be fake a plane was forced to land after someone farted
NO!
And we must respect our troops and use them wisely because there are none better in the world
errrrr….SCORE
thetailor clinton, nothing to do with welfare reform? the guy only made it one of his signature issues from the democratic primary onwards before the GOP ever had control of the house clinton was talking about welfare reform then he vetoed it 8 times or whatever before he signed it because he wanted something specific done
Horseshit.
potty mouth
unfounded, Clinton also didn’t balance the budget.
whatever the guy actually cared about running the government effectively and efficiently which you’d think would be a low bar but i’d give anything to have that back now
*whatever* haha
U.S. Imprisons More People Than Any Other Nation - More than China? I don’t believe it
the US economy is 13 trillion, you think a lousy couple hundred billion in military spending changes the world?
unfounded, no, Clinton didn’t care about a damn thing, and he didn’t really do anything either.
how we manage our own affairs is how we stay on top well he certainly couldn’t take a vacation like bush can
whatever is not a refutation. unfounded is right. “End welfare as we know it” was one of Clinton’s regular campaign phrases.
i’ll admit that thank you fedup in NINETY TWO before anyone had any inkling that the republicans could possibly take congress
unfounded, when you grow up you will realize no president ever takes a vacation.
year 40 or so of democratic dominance
1993 terrorists attacked WTC killing 6 injuring more than 1000 — what did Clinton really do?
kaliuna - you want me to pull out the tom delay quotes calling him “obsessed” with bin laden and all that?
when in 1995 terroristed bombed US Headquarters in Riyadh killing 5 americans — what did he do?
china merely kills thems.
it’s awfully easy to cast blame back on those times but clinton, as he put it on fox news, at least he tried he tried to get bin laden
In 1996 they bombed Al-Khobar towers killed 19 US servicemen and wounding 300 — what did Clinton do?
Ok, he tried. But he didn’t do anything.
uh, trying is doing something
or 1998 when embassies in Kenya or tanzania were bombed killing 24 - what did he do?
he may not have accomplished anything but lets face it thetailor you’re a hard, hard partisan you were yelling wag the dog in 98
yeah, thats why he refused to take him.. when offered him on a silver platter hahah
or the USS Cole - what did he do?
kaliuna that one he attacked bin laden immediately in 98
He tried to get Bin Laden, as opposed to invading a country that had nothing to do with Bin Laden and trying to pretend that it did.
and the USS Cole was a few months before Bush took over
ha
unfounded, well no, I wasn’t.
what
In short - what did he REALLY do about the problems — zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
yeah, wag the dog was definitely stated by a # of people
well that makes one of you thetailor anyways bush came into office talking about saddam and clinton tried to tell him bin laden but it was “anything but clinton”
what did anyone do? what did the Republican congress do? what did the American people do?
yeah timur- and clinton did at least try bin laden was one of his only foreign policy goals
much more important to talk about sex scandals in the white hourse house *
i’ll admit clinton wasn’t a foreign policy genius, on the other hand it was a “wait and see” period in history
yeah, thats why he refused to take him.. when offered him on a silver platter hahahhaha
three times he was offered - three times he refused
in kaliuna’s words, the republicans also —– zzzzzzzzzz’ed
its the PRESIDENTS job –
Ehhh
to take the action
Yeah Reagan was the best president since Lincoln
to make the decision and DO something
definately
hahahaha herzen dude reagan was pretty good but wtf happened in the 80s
Clinton himself admits that he didn’t do enough. The 9/11 report puts a lot of the blame for 9/11 on Clinton’s lack of success in pursuing bin Laden. No one really disputes that….
