11.27.07

i wonder how long it will be until private clubs open up that allow smoking and you have to pay a 5 membership

Posted in Politics at 10:30 pm by Michael Johnson

PO — ya lots of farm kids drive tractors…

like a farm

no the government is going to get paid by the business because they’re making more money

and second hand smoke is a well documented health risk, thetailor

I don’t doubt it

LSMan, that’s a NYC problem then, in Texas we don’t impose on business.

many kids drive in south dakota at the age of 12, out of necessity

ajofi.. is that why half the bars and resturants in mesa closed?

in Boulder, CO where it all started in Colorado, business there bitched and moaned and after a year it was abundantly clear they made MORE money because of the ban

no, it’s not, but that’s off topic

cause they made more money… by banning smoking?

thetailor, well, whether you do or not, your government certainly could

LSMan, if second hand smoke is a risk, don’t go where people smoke.

no because mesa had a for shit economy with only unhealthy smokers propping it up so they decided to go home and smoke

ocdoc, except it is, and the fact that these bans haven’t been seriously challenged legally says something

no one else wanted to go out

ajofi.. hogwash

it’s not

that’s what mesa gets for having a crappy economy that isn’t diverse

ajofi, my reason for being against the ban isn’t because of money, it’s because philosophically I feel the business owner should make that kind of choice for their establishment.

there is no credible evidence that second hand smoke causes significant health problems

ajofi.. and how many went out of business?

thetailor, wtf, so you’re saying that it’s the burden of people to avoid health risks? no… it’s the burden of people who create them to go elsewhere

yes and philosophically a business owner making decisions about other people’s health is a bad idea

lsman, the average joe bar owner does not have the funds to fight those legal battles, he eventually closes his door, as was happening in minneapolis

they’d feed you grade D meat if it were legal

anbd was it a state wide ban?

JanetB, yes it’s statewide.

neither one is true

yowz|, that certainly hasn’t happened in nyc

or both

how would i know, i don’t live in mesa i used to live in Boulder

a good business owner might want to have a sign stating whether smoking is allowed or not

here is was not state wide, and people just went to out cities

and businesses there are doing BETTER because of the ban

surrounding mesa

ajofi - no they aren’t

but imo it’s their business (literally0

LSMan, NYC is a health risk per se, non smokers don’t need to be where smoking is allowed.

ocdoc, that’s classic bushie science, but regardless, nyc can basically impose whatever regulations on businesses it wants… if they’re unreasonable, businesses will go elsewhere and it’ll hurt the city… seems like someone like you would love that philosophy! free market! yay!

ajofi, it’s not making a decision about others health.

i lived there for 16 years before the ban and after the ban and was involved in the restaurant industry there

People don’t have to eat there.

it did better

if a business wanted to prevent smoking on the premises they should be protected from discrimination lawsuits

all of the restaraunts did better

LSMan, people PAY to smoke through taxes.

ajofi… it was a state wide ban

no it wasn’t, that happened only this last summer

thetailor, yes, because it’s supposed to be a disincentive to smoke

boulder banned it a long time ago

if smokers sued the owner for discrimination, the suit should be thrown out

or did you not get the memo that smoking is bad?

LSMan, haha, no, it’s to gain revenue :-)

but allowed for any business to put in a smoking area that was separately ventilated and sealed from the rest of the business

thetailor, it’s kinda both

LSMan, so if you take thheir money, let them smoke.

smokers need to have some sort of recourse… they need to sue someone

sue who for what

if more people come to restaurants when smoking is banned, it means they were staying away to avoid the smoke

they can sue the tobacco companies hehe

LSMan, and anyway, you are discriminating against smokers. LSMan smokers are people too!!!!!

smoking is a disgusting habit, they can do it elsewhere, where no one who cares is around

Kessler says the city’s smoking ban is the reason for all the talk — and action. St. Paul’s smoking ban in bars and restaurants went into effect at the end of March. Kessler says this year there’s been a greater interest in patios than ever before. “We have, actually, 13 applications just since February of this year. And last year, we had 13 for the whole year,” says Kessler. “So it’s become a very popular thing for licensed liquor establishments to add patios.” Workers are finishing smoothing the freshly-poured concrete for a new patio on the very busy White Bear Ave. on St. Paul’s east side. The patio is for Colleen Humphreys’ Sherwood Lounge. She says since the smoking ban took effect, she’s lost about $175 a day.

ALL the resturants here that allow smoking have a totally sealed room… and they are still banning it

thetailor, disallowing health risks is not discrimination… and in any case, they’re free to smoke anywhere outside they’re also free to go into any of these places, go outside to smoke, and go back in

Atleast Cigarette smoke doens’t smell like total shit unlike Marijuana smoke

and guess what. the smoking areas always have a waiting list, the no smoking area is always avaliable

dam comyoonits

LSMan, McDonalds is a proven health risk, as is NYC itself, look at all the RATS.

Herzen, huh? You’ve been smoking some bad pot if it smells worse than cig smoke.

i think it’s appropriate for the law to allow businesses to build separate fully sealed/ventilated areas for smoking so that non-smokers have no contact with smoke

the rats are perfectly healthy

well they are not doing that here

if people want to be dumb and smoke and die, let them

thetailor, yes, but nyc does regulate rats in businesses, and punishes those who have violations heh… and btw they’re trying to regulate transfat now, too, so mcdonalds is next

they are banning smoking totally except in your home

I mean, the tailor, I kind of equate regulating smoking in businesses with regulating stuff like rats… it’s a health issue

or trying to, that will be the law if it passes

well you’ll have a healthier community in the long run

I don’t like the smell of cigarette smoke but I tolerate it on the street outside because it’s only mildly annoying, does me no real harm, and the smokers should have a right to smoke somewhere … but I”m damned if I will try to eat a meal for an hour in a restaurant where smoking is allowed

Janet — in some places you can’t even go out to your car and smoke — thats going overboard

LSMan, well if McD’s goes, so do all the best restaurants in the city, they are all 200 grams of fat per meal :-)

Kaliuna.. I think that is the law they are going for here too

thetailor, it’s not fat, it’s transfat :P

it is really stupid

no most NYC restaraunts are not using trans fats in their cooking

Janet– stupidity –

ajofi, exactly

fat is not bad for you unless you eat too much of it for too long

LSMan, *saturated* fat is the problem.

good restaurants use olive oils, the ban proposed in NYC is ONLY transfat. not on high fat food.

there is no such thing as junk food

saturated fat is not good but transfat is worse

ajofi -well that will be the next thing they will ban –

yeah and cooks are going nuts it is ruining recipies

ajofi, yeah, well a well marbled steak isn’t olive oil.

there is no single food that is bad for you when eaten in moderation along with a variety of other foods

i could care less i don’t eat transfat it’s bad for you

Janet — you got that right –

hahaha

that’s a myth

steak is disgusting

you cannot prevent “trans fat”

I like steak

Minneapolis about a dozen men sip bottled beers at one end of the triangular room. Owner Denise Freeman said the month-long smoking ban cleared the air in her bar. It also cleared out her business. “(A) busy usual Thursday night you couldn’t hardly move in here. People were having fun,” Freeman said. “Now, last Thursday I was lucky to have 15 people in here.” Freeman said the decline in business started right after the smoking ban did. Thirty percent the first week; 40 percent the next. She said her business dropped 65 percent the third week of the ban compared to the month before. Smoking section “I can’t weather it,” she said. “If it keeps going I will be out of business within two months. There’s no way. My bills have not changed.”

have you seen how they raise cows?

ajofi - is there ANYTHING you like at all?

it’s foul

haha

it occurs naturally to some degree

it amounts to animal torture

Kaliuna i doubt it lol

Stop that!

anyone who gets sick eating cows i have no sympathy for at all

that’s the real issue … they want to ban all fun

oh please…

Olive oil, will have some degree of “trans fat”

it’s what you get for eating slabs of cow muscle

thats what animals are for

anyway, the point is, in nyc anyway, if someone tried to roll back the smoking ban - and nobody has seriously proposed that - I bet there would be an uproar

that’s what properly raised animals are for

bullshit, we’ve had smoking bans here for about 2 years… almost nobody is complaining

and it’s not like it has killed businesse

to be honest, a lot of smokers even like it the bars dont reek

Anyway, people can clearly see who the regulation Nazis are

I mean

i’ll eat free range animals

JanetB, like those juicy humans.

no mass produced animals

as long as people can reasonably vote with their feet, I’m against regulations

Costco $1 chickens

I’m not sure if I could move somewhere that allowed smoking in bars now… I’m not used to this lol

Mm.. Mm.. good.

discusting

hahahha P_O

Ahh the smell of stale beer and cigar smoke…

you can see who is trying to regulate your life in every way, and dryhump your ass at every step

JanetB is right Jesus put animals here for us to eat

Vote in November !

We’re pretty much designed to eat animals If you don’t like it, fuck you

lool

ocdoc, isn’t this a case where people can’t really vote with their feet? most businesses by default won’t ban smoking, and even one or two smokers can ruin a whole bar

animals came before jesus jesus had nothing to do with animals

ajofi wins.

naw, that was before jesus

Herzen eats cute bunny rabbits

jinx

P_O, Not really, Jesus is also God and the Holy Spirit so..

remmeber the hateful over-regulators when you vote

Herzen, fuck the trinity.

nope.. Christ was there in heaven, before he became man

god doesn’t exist so it doesn’t matter

US - amen to that

he is God after all

I never got the point of it.

obviously

the point was to confuse people PO that’s all

Why can’t Christianity have a God and a prophet like a normal religion? :P

oooo something that cannot be explained!

we had prophets

it’s mystical!

yah

must be important and true

I mean, to me, the smoking ban is a textbook case of the government doing something that’s good for the majority of people but that the market wouldn’t produce by itself

well no, it’s just nonsense

John the Baptist was one

is you feelin’ hysterical? no, but he’s feelin’ MINE

ajofi, that sounds like the majority of religion.

elijah was also

exactly we have the secret to salvation give us your money

a bunch of prophets

yes, and it’s STILL wrong

fraud

Anyways, point still remains that through whatever means you want, evolution, intelligent design, jesus, whatever, man is meant to eat animals biologically.

well actually it’s not true

and bugs .. don’t forget the bugs

ocdoc, I don’t see how you can say it’s wrong… legally, anyway… you’re saying a city doesn’t have wide latitude in regulating business, especially on matters of health?

biologically man is omnivorous

Herzen, well man is “meant” to eat vegetables and fungi and just about everything else too.

it’s women, biologically that need to eat meat

Woot for omnivores.

i wonder how long it will be until “private clubs” open up, that allow smoking, and you have to pay a $5 membership fee to belong, and you get 3 free beers for signing up…and in membership agreement, you have to acknowledge that you’ll know that smoking will be allowed in the club?

man is biologically meant to eat bugs and worms

men can be 100% vegetarian

Just watch who tries to regulate your life and tax you at every step

and you still haven’t answered my point about the voting with feet issue ocdoc

Vote in November !

ajofi, why do women need to eat meat?

and in a modern society of iron supplementation, women can be vegetarians now too

Men can’t be 100% vegan, we need animal products to function correctly

but that is a recent thing

Oh okay.

iron

a city has limited powers to protect imminent harm to the public

women need iron

I was about to say, I know women who’re total vegetarians.

because they bleed more than any other animal

like epidemics

they menstruate and bleed like crazy and they have the most blood loss during child birth of any mammal also so they need iron because blood loss means rapid iron loss

the fact that you can’t be a vegetarian without supplements should tell you something about vegetarianism and nature

now the hate for women comes out

ocdoc, that’s absolutely wrong… and again, I’m speaking legally, not philosophically… generally speaking, city regulations are held to one of the loosest judicial standards that exists… as long as there is some “rational basis,” the city wins

besides, eating animals is awesome

Herzen, except your comment about meant to eat meat is equally true as meant to eat ________.

it means that in nature women are necessarily omnivores but men can be vegetarian biologically

I know … and it’s WRONG

eating healthy animals is good

ocdoc, ok, so we’re speaking philosophically… and I still disagree with you on that, too

eating sick animals is just gross and wrong

P_O, Sure, we’re omnivores, but we function best with both meat (meant to eat meat) and vegetables (meant to eat vegetables)

I know

Herzen, I can agree with that.

function best? based on what?

In a modern sense though, it really doesn’t matter.

people eat too much meat it’s true they should eat less meat but not stop completely

Because you could live off of an IV and many people have :P

ok,.. so what did I accomplish thdoay, I did the laundry, cleaned the house, make home made french bread and beef stew for hubbys dinner, which he should be home to eat in a half hr and finished a quilt

meat eating is inherently inefficient and wasteful of resources

ocdoc, what can I say, I guess I want the government to throw its weight around on my behalf… maybe I’ll change my mind if I’m ever in the minority on a health-related issue like this

yeah, productive day

people should be left along to do whatever they prefer as much as possible

omg I’m pro-totalitarianism!!!

government should only interfere when absolutely necessary for the continuation of society

lol

well, that’s the libertarian view, for sure

yay

people are least happy and fulfilled when they are limited on all sides by rules … it makes them cranky

I enjoy killing and eating animals I’m a monster

I enjoy meat that’s ridiculously processed.

cigarettes are bad

Heh Well

Steak is good too though.

AJOFI — according to you - EVERYTHING is bad

Now along with no stairs, my apt building has no gutter drain on the east side of the building. Oops.

not at all, pesto is good

hi all

I guess I’m more optimistic, ocdoc, that the government can actually be a force for positive change… but that’s the fundamental difference between me and, you know, republicans, libertarians, etc.

oops

Theres not much worse then uppity or militant vegetarians/vegans

putanesca is really good

astrodog2, uh, no stairs?

Yeah.

goat cheese is good

interfear

Herzen, zombies are worse

So you get to a higher place how? :P

On Friday afternoon, they removed the stairs from the 2nd floor, to the ground.

i believe that 9-11 was a controlled demolition and not a terrorist attack.. does anyone agree with me / want to talk about it?

rofl pwnt.

Well, I *used* to use the gutter drain.

Katey-, not really, atleast they’re still eating meat.

Now, I use the rock column thing.

no one wants to talk about it

i am particularly fond of grape seed oil very high smoke point

yeah. but they’re more annoying than militant foodies

great for stir fry

I keep telling you to rapel

i see.. any reason why?

you use less fat using grape seed oil also so it supports a low fat died diet

I just out the window, to get down. *jump

because our experience with conspiracy theorists has been boring

interfear, let’s never talk about that, ever ocdoc! we agree on something!

you’re going to hurt something eventually

lsman where in NYC?

I hope that by the time that may happen, the stairs are back.

so then what proof helps u sleep at night knowoing the towers were a form of terrorism?

Besides, its kinda fun, and as long as you roll when you hit, s’ok.

cuz there must be something

astrodog2, lol

all the conspiracy theories raise questions that they think are conclusive, but they’re not, they’re just questions

interfear, I think the burden of proving it wasn’t terrorism is kind of on you heh.. given the overwhelming evidence

no zombies are better

LSMan where in NY are you?

interfear, you know what helps me sleep at night in relation to the twin towers?

astrodog2, how does that not get annoying?

ajofi, murray hill

Apathy.

Its incredibly annoying

I never lost a minute of sleep over 9/11

But there’s nothing I can do about it…

I’d rather have brain-eating zombies that militant veg-heads

oh cool i like that area

So… *shrug*

i’m at union square

in fact, we predicted something like it over a year before

“Time to go to work!” *jump* *roll*

not too far

Haha.

Jane Wyatt died — “Father Knows Best” — and lastly known as Spock’s Mother on StarTrek

astrodog2, okay so what you do is you hire people at min wage to stand around and wait for you to want out, and then have them build a human stair.

*pick up the shit that fell out of your pockets*

Apartments for Basejumpers - Page 21, has my place.

LSMan so what do you think of this body part they found in the manhole last thursday? and wallet

they’re dropping like flies all around us

Heh.

Do well she was in her 90s

ocdoc, I kind of winced at pelosi’s parting shot on 60 minutes tonight… leslie stahl was pressing on her on what her agenda was, and she just said, “you know, this election is a referendum on bush and cheney… just making them lame ducks is good enough”

dang

oh and I made him key lime pie for desert

astrodog2, how do you get back in?

i was thinking, it’s been 5 years and they’re not sure they’ve looked in all the sewers andn checked all the manholes yet?

Vegetarianism and Veganism is a product of an extremely pampered society

cwazy

astrodog2, do you carry rope and a grappling hook?

if someone could explain to me why building 7 fell i will be convinvced

yeah, I can see why Democrats would wince a lot lately

Herzen, uh yeah.

Until 15 minutes ago, I climbed the gutter drain.

Just about everything cool is the product of pampered society.

But, I ah… tore that off the building. So now I use this rock column thing out front.

astrodog2, gutter drain fall off?

Vegetarianism isn’t cool, son.

pulled off

ajofi, it was very strange… they convened some big meeting about how to make sure it doesn’t happen again heh… that’s about all I know

vetegarianism is healthy and safe and efficient

astrodog2, doh! now what?

interfear if you would “look it up” severe structural damage

Vegetarianism isn’t particularily healthy without the right supplements

he failed to watch all the sitcoms and movies where the drains get pulled loose by people climbing on them

There’s a big set of rock columns out front

lol

ocdoc, I dunno, the polls look pretty good the last week or so… I just wish we could vote already :P

LSMan i heard the same, so now they are going to do another search of the area

eating veggies will kill you.. look at spinach and lettuce!

But, to use those, I have to jump to the patio from em, which sucks.

fine … be a veggie … why are you going on and on about it?

haha

keep eatting those greens!

i think Mayor Negin had it right a couple months ago

astrodog2, you gotta get some stairs, man

Janet - and don’t forget carrot juice –

or a ladder or somethin

I don’t want to be a veggie and I’m not going to become one … end of story

i’m not a vegetarian

carrot juice too?

i eat happy animals especially ones fromo the ocean

Janet — ya mainly in Canada - but it too had E Coli

sushi is very good for you very healthy

see.. I always said veggies are bad!

fine .. whatever .. whom are you trying to convince?

I eat bored and pampered animals

very unhealthy katey

jogging is bad for your health if you get hit by a car where you’re jogging

veggies are badddd

I either eat animals that I kill myself through hunting or fishing

you should eat happy animals

or eat animals that are bred to be eaten

Katey — hmm I’ll hide the cats and dogs

only preserve cute animals

if you eat happy animals you will be happy

heh

ocdoc, what if you only run on a treadmill like I do? I guess the belt could snap

But I am already happy

you are what you eat

yes, fear the treadmill! ajofi is a happy sea animal

How does one gauge if an animal is happy or not?

Herzen, a friend of mine got a 42 lb turkey last week on Ft Hood

well then you should eat a ton of sugar.. sugar makes you happy

thats a fatass turkey

Herzen, you ask them

JanetB, that’s what I do.

hehehe P_O

TT - wow - big one — he feeding an army? (ouch for pun)

ever heard of Jim Fixx?

he better dig a big pit, to cook that bird

lol

Katey-, Hmm I prefer not to anthropomorphize my dinner

he died at a young age with coronary arteries the size of my thumb

ew

Herzen, yeah. I just go to the supermarket.

I don’t know how the hell ya cook a bird that big

flame thrower

you dig a pit like you cook a pig in

TT — long, slow and in one heck of a BIG oven or monster pit

deep fat outdoors on a gas grill

those cellophane wrapped packages don’t express much emotion either way

Katey-, assigning human qualities to animals that i’m going to eat is getting a little close to zombieism for me

42lb turkey? no such thing

BRAINS!!

must have been an osterich

Herzen is so sensitive

OcDoc, they do a lot of that deep frying the turkey deal here.

brainz

i just cant see how a plane crash would level the tower

more likely an emu

it wouldnt fall in such a way

TheTailor, I bagged a couple of geese the other week

that’s why

TheTailor, 3 of them actually

interfear, and I’m sure you’re an expert on demolitions/engineering.

Good eatin

Herzen, good eatin’

Herzen, will you make pate from their livers?

goose is good

no

very high in fat

but I will consume their flesh

because you don’t understand something is proof positive?

give me proof

I like duck, but goos is certainly good

i like a nice duck confit personally

goose is not my favorite

aloha

cuz ive been watching footage of the crash

TheTailor, goose is excellent when you kill it yourself

I eat brainz

duck confit on a pumpkin soup devine

im a chef

TheTailor, I like bird hunting a lot more then mammal hunting generally

crash?

i can answer cooking questions

TheTailor, though I’m looking at doing a bear-hunting trip next season

duck confit is like sex

I only eat h00man brainz

duck confit is better than foi gras

Yeah but a bear is to big

I’ve heard of people who believe in bullshit because they can’t believe in reality, but I’ve never actually talked directly with on

a plane crash did not level the tower. the force of a crash, followed by a sustained fire, did.

foi gras is a complete perversion but then it came from the french so no surprise there

TheTailor, we got black and brown bears here, pretty small compared to grizzly or polar bears

“it doesn’t look possible so it must not be true”

Herzen, it will still fill yourfreezer

is bear tasty?

bear is greasy

if it isn’t true, it must have been a conspiracy”

bleh

bear is like gamey pork

ok. if you agree with that the you agree that the twin towers are the first steel building to ever collapse..not ever in history has a steel building collapses from fire before

I never ate a bear burger, moose is good

thats the best way to describe it I think gamey pork

Kaliuna greasy??? lol

if prepared right its excellent

hmm. bears are omnivores like people and pigs

TT - ya moose needs grease — very very lean

free range pork is completely differnet than mass produced

I guess that sort of diet produces flesh that tastes about the same

you can absolutely taste the difference

the top floors were tons … they collapsed the floor beneath, which added to the weight and collapse the floor below them … etc etc

well, it’s happened now. there’s no reason to think it didn’t happen, if you know anything about materials

each floor that collapsed added its weight to the ones above

ugh. not this debate again

this is boring

cascading the collapse linearly

Katey-: party pooper

let’s talk about frying eggs in bacon grease instead

TheTailor, at the farm we had this bear messing around with shit a few years ago

mmmm

TheTailor, we shot it and had the meat prepared

okay … bedtime

TheTailor, bear sausage is pretty ok

sick

Doc - dang good idea

tomorrow is Monday again I have to go out and do it all over again

shhh DOC — don’t remind me

g’night all

just out of curiosity, how many of you here would trade in your current life to be Hefner?

not me, i’m gainfully uemployed

night doc

as a retiree? :-)

offshored

laterz

he’s only 44

nite

doc — byebye

I spent today writing an 8p paper - it is badly written, logically flawed, with many gaps, but it represents some good analysis

it’s not like he’s 62

Well if bear is fatty, it would make a good sausage

life ends at 62 you know government makes pilots retire at 62

Herzen, bear chili!

retarded

umm… you’re gonna revise right?

yes yes oh yes

Swigert hey

TheTailor, a lot of time recreational hunters here will sell their kills to grociers

hey pub

TheTailor, so in the fall you can get deer steaks in the store etc

I’ve never had deer meat

its good, gamey but good

My god in heaven…..check out this guitar player

Katey-, it’s pretty good

Never seen anything like it wow

Katey-: it’s good, not gamey if you fix it right lean

Whats gamier, Elk, Moose or Deer?

Elk

I’d have to agree We got so much animals here to shoot

when someone describes something as “gamey” what does that mean?

Because of restrictions on deer hunting, deer is way overpopulated and cause many accidents

it has a strong flavor

bitter? sweet? tough?

Katey-: sort of a funky blood taste

not like beef

ah ok

but you can soak it in buttermilk

hello

potatoes could help too in a stew

that’ll kill most of deer game taste yeah

deer are vermin

Elk you just can’t really get it out

kill them eat them all you who eat deer

lok he’s losing it hahaha

we should make dog food out of deer for a year

mmm bambi

they aren’t vermin. But there are a lot of them.

lo

deer meat is spossed to be very tasty

mmm yummy venison

They are vermin to farmers here

that’s elk

squirrel are vermin

They will come into fields and make a mess of crops and shit

not deer

i can’t eat squirrel

what are you talking about?– jews?

do americans eat deer?

squirrel are tree rats

When we camped at Asateague Island it was amazing to be around deer that weren’t afraid of people

redfish no lol

yes

and wild ponies

I don’t eat horsemeat tho

of course we eat deer… venison is good..

wow

unicorns lol

no unicorns silly

hehe

they’re endangered species, can’t kill them

in our country food is divided into three types

well, you can’t kill anything on Asateague Island it’s all protected

not even zombies?

Herzen, I think they do set aside a zombie season

late here - need some sleep…. NIte you all…

night kali

but everything else is protected

bye kali

actually if zombies existed zombie hunting might be fun probably wouldn’t want to eat them though

nah zombies are gross

wormy

gamey? :P

I only eat h00man brainz

braaainz

has anyone seen the borat movie

bbrrRRRRainZ!

the last time i had meat was like 3 yrs ago looong time

fish?

a few years ago my husband and I dressed as zombies for halloween.

not a very good aryaputra huh?

so no seafood

if fish stinks it’s spoiled

shrimp doesn’t smell

you don’t eat spoiled fish

no it stinks period

we were meeting a friend for drinks at a restaurant. when he pulled up in his car I leaned into his window and said, “BRAINZ!! I need brains!”

yuck

no it doesn’t

my husband looked at me and said, “you sure do.” :/

fresh tuna has no smell at all

I cant wait for my nigga Sen. Obama to run for prez he is gonna win in 2008

i dont think we have tuna here

LOL

what year?

Seafood doesn’t stink.

pomfret and other crap ive had ram meat in the mountains then your plain mutton n chicken

strat, 3you are devoiced (Requested by TheTailor - Reason: we don’t do the racist thing here )

thts all

an African-American president? Not a chance. We only recently emancipated them!

Spoiled seafood stinks BAD

fish shouldn’t smell fishy

Spoiled anything stinks

swigert thinks blacks are so lazy they had to have someone else free them

fresh seafood is tasty

if it does, toss it

exactly Katey-

redfish thinks whites are good decent people - ahahahah

I killed over 500 crabs this year

lol

jhicks i hope no sand crabs

ever watch “The Deadliest Catch”?

blue crab

jhicks, finally went to the doctor, eh?

Katey-: BLUE CRABS

lol

It was the best year the oldtimer say in the past 40 crabs galore I absolutely love crabmeat and got burned out on it

haha

medicare part d sucks

heh. I remember sitting on a pier on the Chesapeake Bay with a chicken neck on a string trying to catch crabs when I was a little girl

jhicks used tweezers and a Bic lighter

i wished they never passed that stupid fucking bill

snorkle + net

my mom kept telling me you have to use fish heads

Katey-: chicken necks are great

Katey- you might get a baby shak shark

not in the bay

or Shaq

h0mi, oh well, everyone likes it, so…

Katey-: puh-lenty of sharks in chesapeake bay

I did that when I was a kid…. we did pretty well.

astrodog2, I never caught a single one. :/

Katey-: bull shark will go hundreds of miles into fresh water

of course seniors are going to like it. for most of them it means lower drug costs

They’ve seen them in St. Louis

it cut my dad;s drug costs in 1/2 at least

You need a salt-water canal, really.

jhicks, worst thing I ever saw in the Chesapeake Bay was too many damned jellyfish

thats the only good that came of it

yeah

You put the chicken neck in a tall gar, the crab climbs in but can’t get out

Earth to the FreeTimer

A pier is much, much harder to make work.

i read an article about chinese eating aborted foetuses yuck

you catch the large male crabs near fresher water

the chinaman can eat anything

Aryaputra no it’s the afterbirth

LOL

the sook (females) go for high salinity

it was an old custom that’s real, a chinese guy told me

Those little crabs are to much trouble.

The key when you’re crab pot-less, is the canal, though.

gotta have skill to pick them I can make a good meal out of four crabs

Otherwise, there aren’t enough there to be worth it.

and people belonging to my wife’s religion debate on how the onion is harmful lol

o_O

evil onions

what religion is that

yup jain ism

onions are only harmful to those that have to smell your breath

lol

Next time around Jerry Brown will be running for Dog Catcher

Aryaputra, jainism?

It’s spelled m-o-o-n-b-e-a-m

yup

I like the pacific dungeness

Aryaputra, hmm. that’s a new one on me.

professional politician

never heard of it

professional parasite

Never heard of a dungeness crab?

well…50% of all yoga sutras were invented by jain ascetics

Deeeeelish

i have

never heard of jainism

theyre excellent

onions are only harmful when idiots who make food don’t realize that it has a stronger taste than other veggies…ie if you put the same portions of onions…what do ya know? you taste onion!

its a natural aphrodisiac

anybody ever heard of ‘ramps’ ? RINGSTRAY!

and the jains think sex is BAD lol

and by harmful i mean it makes it taste like shit

Onions are great.

‘ramps’ are wild leeks indigenous to appalachia rare you think onions give stink

hey, I think bread is great. However, i like ohter food with my bread ;p

And with that I think I’m going to grab a book and curl up and die on my bed.

nite P_O

Night jhicks.

when suna has a blog i will read it twice a day

redfish, only twice?

if he sets up rss feed you can really stay on top of it

P_O is gone but the smell lingers on

bah. I’m going to bed too. nn

take his underwear off your head

hahah’

jhicks, not atom? :_((

They have canned redfish don’t they?

no, it’s a gamefish red drum you can only keep them in florida between 17″ and 28″

NO ONE talks peace while waging war better than Sri Lanka’s government and Tamil rebels http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8058434

lol tamils are like muslims

how so

same people same race race ,history ,culture

i mean..

what???

just the language is different

You know who rules

me

They are meanwhile engaged in some of their fiercest fighting in years. More than 1,000 people have been killed since April. Some 220,000 have been displaced, mostly Tamils and Muslims in the north and east of the country, where the rebel Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam are fighting for an independent homeland.

That financial guy on CNBC That yells all the time Whats his name

Jim Cramer ?

Yeah

he’s insane

Bah, Cramer he’s a moron

elam..hehehe

he does TERRIBLE stock picks

He’s crazy

He’s way past his 15 minutes

elam? lol

I reember he was yelling at people to buy all kinds of superinflated tech stocks right before they all went bust *remeber

yep anybody that follows his advice deserves what they get

the only good thing he does now is encourage diversification

ancient dravidians from iran(elam) colonise south india and now the ngritos want their own elam

usmale goes to ravces

its funny isnt it

raves

its like mexicans wanting to establish a spain in america

you think they don’t?

hehehe…yeah they do it is funny

lol i know..about nothing concerning south india lol

well..theyre like better looking africans

LOL

with a lot of mid-eastern blood

Earth to the FreeTimer

why must…the area that they claim is there homeland..be so damn inconvient and spread out lol

There is no such thing as a “homeland” anyway

He’s sleepin’ Randy

http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8058434 — the pink area..thats so

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