11.28.07
Hi i was wondering if there are any independants that would help a college student work on a political science
with his mustachio
Emmit’s lost alot of weight since he’s not playing anymore
whoa
Hmm, wonder what ever happened to Screech? That blonde chick went into soft porn
choopa choopa you came back
hai
heh, but ShowGirls was a serious cinematic work
Elizabeth Berkeley of course
Hi i was wondering if there are any independants that would help a college student work on a political science essay and do an interview, anyone iterested?
jhicks…it’s my understanding cometbaby is a redhead…and it is IMHO that redheads can do any damn thing they please
i dont understand guys who say that ShowGirls sucked.. must be gays.
lol and I do
we already had a student troll today
comet, been married to one for 32 yrs
come back tomorrow
hehe
how is that a troll
`Im independent but wont be here long enough to help anyone
I didn’t say you were, just that we already had one
lupine believes gina gershon is a goddess with ethereal beauty :/
oh, well im not one, i just have some questions about political parties and partinship
All an independent is is someone who doesnt believe in any party and thats me.
oh
exactly what im looking for
hey - God Bless America!
first go study George Washington’s farewell address
read Lincoln’s stuff too
then come back
always read Lincoln
Don’t read any of that Lincoln crap
hes dead, lincolns dead, sadly i cant invterview them
Lincoln saved the Union and destroyed the Slaveholders’ Confederacy
jhicks, i had no clue who this gina gherson was until i just googled her, she’s pretty sweet
but their works survived = use your imagination
i could use mine, but my professor cant
I still don’t know who she is
what’s what school is for
FAU
jhicks, google image her, i’d kiss her butt til she cried
Florida Atlantic?
yeah
swigert lincoln caused the civil war
slavery caused the civil war
Just study american history and the history of the founders and what they believe in and all. Pretty much the dems of 1960 and the repubs were both roughly the same in terms of patriots from 1960 back.
Lincoln ended it, with help from Grant, Sherman, Thomas, Meade and Porter
more or less.
swigert, the white man caused all wars
Then came the 70s. and the radicals.
Lincoln was an ugly homo
what about the India-Parkistan wars of the 60s and 70s?
yes , th white man
ok well thanks anyway
damn honkies
i dont know how
he was a saint who saved the country
but its the white man
Then the democrats went alien and the republicans Well I still wont join thier party for nothing.
he was demonic and ruined everything
everything was already messed up because of slavery = Lincoln made it all better
Look at those ears! and that NOSE
Party politics has no appeal to me at all.
wrinkly skin
I like feeling completely independent.
he’s one nasty mofo
all the more necessary to listen to his peoples’ needs - and smell the stench of injustice
I owe noone nothing.. Any vote is the right vote as long as I believe in it.
Lincoln ate babies
if that’s all you have on Lincoln, you don’t have much
I have period photographs!
Though I admit I tend to vote for republicans more than democrats because they are so loopy hmm I am chattering too much again, Need to move the coffee machine away from my cubicle.
jhicks negro babies lincoln ate negro babies like watermelons
that bastard
Lincoln was quite a thinker, very well known as the most educated kid in his community he tore into books like other boys, never mind..
Lincoln had a lasting influence on U.S. political and social institutions, importantly setting a precedent for greater centralization of power in the federal government
My moms absolute favorite historical person
last night on some gameshow they asked who was the last US president to not have earned a college degree you know how throughout life you pickup tidbits of uselesss info and you say “just in case i’m ever on a game show”
Lincoln saved America
not hardly after the civil war they got rid of income taxes didnt they ? And the still never paid the troops did they ?
declaring martial law, suspending the writ of habeas corpus, ordering arrests of 18,000 opponents including public officials and newspaper publishers, needlessly ending the lives of hundreds of thousands of young soldiers in the war
ahha…we were watching it and i shouted out “Truman!” and my friends laughed sure enough random fact my academics coach tossed out way back in HS
I loved it how Sherman tore Georgia a new a-hole for its secessionst crimes
Bush watched Borat?
I like it anytime anyone hurts Georgia Swigert
Make Georgia Howl!!
Georgia sucks, etc suits me
haven’t been there yet, but probably next year
reliable? http://www.globalincidentmap.com/home.php
Whats wrong with suspending habeous corpus? Says in the constitution you can do it. if the times are right.
i wouldn’t bother georgia is carp CARP
I would say that the south has an insurrection going to say the least haha
we’ve got lockheed now though !
sorry the coffee again
some like to point it out that the Great Lincoln violated civil rights, and this laid basis for big government later. What they fail to realize is the problem he had to face: keeping the war going
yeah, the unnecessary war
I am supposed to be able to order facilities to move stuff, And they wont move hte coffee machine, I think they like me wired.
civil war was necessary
the south would be better off without the north but the south screwed up they should have freed the slaves first then seceded it would have held that way
I doubt it.
Pickle!
me too
control of the mississippi river was a big deal
Slavery was never the issue for the North. Fucking up the Southerners for daring to secede was.
do you really think the North would not have tried to get the South back with or without slavery
yes
Oh I’m sure but they’d have lacked a moral imperative
the South would have been begging for Northern help if they freed all the slaves; it would have been the largest slave uprising in history.
no
Slavery was never a big moral imperative, hence the New York draft riots.
the actual cause of the war was the secession not slavery
the cause of the war was control of the mississippi river or at least a big factor
but the cause of secession was slavery
CNN’s Glen Beck is a jackass. he just said something to the effect that if his cable service carried al jezera, he would cancel the service. in other words he does not want anyone else to see/hear what as jezera has to say. if beck does not want to hear it, he doesn’t have to watch it
not entirely but yeah, it was a big part tariffs too
with a republican majority in the congress and then a known secessionist like lincoln winning the presidency, They shot the line
protectionism
jhicks, got a lot to say, dontcha
Had they waited, Lincoln would have told them that he wasnt willling to split the country over abolition reagardless of his beliefs
hmmm
JupaSaur, he doesn’t want to support supports of AJ
but then you would have to convince the south Carolinans he was serious
How many Iraqis did Saddam kill while he was dictator? Was it a lot?
Pujol freedom means anyone should have the choice of what tv the see/hear — not glenn beck dictating what one can see/hear
just boredom, it’s rainy outside
S. Carolina had by far the least democratic government in the South - it was a reactionary state
Al Jazeera is great. People need to see what kind of creatures inhabit the middle east, maybe they’ll wake up a bit.
yeah S. Carolina still sucks Swigert
haven’t been there yet
they eat shrimp in their grits
I am soooooo happy - I took the GRE today and scored 610 and 550, which is enough to get me into my favorite schools the animals!
there oughta be a law
nah - let them
I turned on my little tv and watched part of fox for awhile while at work, they had a parody of Al jazeera, Point/Same Point, followed by the Usama factor… I had to cover my mouth to stop from laughing so loud the co workers would notice me.
Did Saddam kill millions of people?
hundreds of thousands
28 minutes.. Please! Go by fast.
Could one of the “peak oil” freakos please explain this article? http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpost/news/story.html?id=6539bce8-b69f-4e51-8c6f-5f0fff0fd7b7&k=81355
sonic!
Swigert: but not millions MissLaVey: buzz off you fat whale
ouch
love ya baby!
your a disgrace to IRC MissLavey
you’re*
tomtom .. are you female?
is that required? is there some limit that we must evaluate dictatorships?
im ashamed to have you in here
oh he only killed 150,000 innocent people = he’s no threat.
comet, Sure am! Proudly!
shawing
heh .. thats a personal question .. you don’t have to answer it
Swigert: some girl was telling me saddam killed millions….was it really millions?
I kinda thought so
well thats about as much as I will reveal as a woman, too dangerous I hear
probably not 1m, but 750k = still brutal.
yeah it is
Pinochet’s regime was alleged to have killed 3,000, yet he received all kinds of hell
IM fat, ugly and deformed so guys leave me alone
thats a smart move .. you cannot be too careful
haha, yep so true
heh .. are you a lesbian? lol
Nope..
I’m lessbian what’s wrong with lesbians?
I am not a lesbian.. One of few women in this area who are not haha
i’m a lesbian too
everybody’d beaaaautiful…. except for Swigggert
lol
I’m laughing at these Greenpeacers and other vermin at the Kyoto conference in Kenya; totally disconnected from reality
I’m trapped in a mans body though
Nothing is wrong with lesbians, but nothing wrong with asking someone is there ? Nothing is wrong with lesbians, but nothing wrong with asking someone is there ?
that’s harsh man
heh
tomtom .. its personal. We shouldn’t ask personal questions on irc
i let you off easy
yowz is a cliche trapped in a man’s body
tomtom you never have to answer them .. just tell us to mind our own business lol
hehe
hehe. Yeah I dont ask many in fact Im not sure i have asked any unless it was related to a conversation directly
redfish doesn’t know quite when to spring the purchase of his new pink speedos on lance
Interesting stuff by Glenn Beck
hey, did you know the creator of Wonder Woman is the nutjob that invented the polygraph?
jhicks .. really?
yep
no, I didn’t know that
I suggest those who are all for appeasing terrorists, check out his show again at 9 PM EST on CNN Headline News
CometBaby hey, there’s your dancer! Jerry!
I can’t wait until the Conservatives win their majority so they can stop fucking around and just declare Kyoto dead, already.
cometbaby, done the 911 call yet on any of your neighbors smoking on the sidewalk yet?
he did all sorts of weird stuff trying to solicit J Edger Hoover interesting history er, Edgar even
I hope they have a nice big ceremony, where the greenpeacers and Taliban Jack are openly weeping
somebody in omaha has their head square up their ass….that’s the dumbest fricken thing i’ve EVER heard
Kinda explains the lasso of truth
I am nancy pelosi, I plan to send aid in the form of money to Al Queda and to Bin laden for a new dialysis machine.
yowz .. rofl I have not seen any of my neighbors smoking ever
by that analogy…omaha is becoming frisco central
It is very disturbing some of the things Ahmadinejad has said when not in front of the world view
now that I think about it lol
You watch Glenn Beck?
yeah everyone was laughing about that 911 business. DKL ..no
I have an idea, tax celebrities and politicians who are millionaires 90% since they care so much. and then the rest of us can have tax cuts.
You should watch that show Comet
bah Glenn Beck
It really shows Ahmadinejad for who he is (not that you don’t know already)
cool
Though, some don’t
how did gore get to australia for his enviro global warming talk? private jet? commercial jet? boat?
There is talk of Ahmadinejad being compared closely to Hitler
Comet , if you get a chance to watch fox news hour today catch the last part where they have the funny thing of the day on al Jazerra, Its a hoot!
yeah funny how that happens
At least with some of the things he’s trying to do and say
you mean hyperbole
ok will try .. we are going out for a while in about 10-15 min ..
swigert, you hear? how’d he get there?
Its very funny if you can record..
I dunno’, I think Iran is becoming a very serious issue
is gore a hypocrite? or does he walk the talk
he flew
made my day
nowhere near as powerful as industrialized germany was
very few people travel from the US to Australia via ship
So?
I thought I was going to get busted at work. laughed so hard
swigert, private or commercial, you hear?
it’s just hyperbole
His ideals and support within the country of Iran is serious
why private of course - he was VP of the country
i didn’t say he wasn’t
not on a glider plane? geez.
Wait until Iran gets nukes
it’s just that a comparison to hitler is not even close
I feel outraged
what a frickin hypocrite
it’s intended to inflame, not a valid comparison
yeah, it’s horrible hypocrisy to point out dangers to the environment granted, he could have teleconferenced
he has to spread the message somehow
good, cause I gotta get an Xmas tree for the gf thanks!
Well.. CGI is getting very close.. http://www.lez.hu/hentaitsop2.swf
Timur-: get a plastic one
Environmentalists with Christmas trees = hypocrites. Environmentalists with plastic christmas trees = hypocrites.
not really, since they’re often grown specifically in groves for that purpose
Your mom… yeah, her too!
republicans are such assholes am I banned now?
nope
nah, my parents don’t wanna xmas tree
teets, 3you are devoiced (Requested by Glock21 )
Just moderated
LOL
just because they’re less messy
Now we know what Lupine has been watching
lol
For the last probably Day
how dare you question the Great and Almighty Republican Party!!!
plz to ban
no
plz
DKLassify of course, it probably took 20 weeks on a super computer
plz get life Girls Find them Get laid… trust me, you’ll like it.
PLZ TO BAN
Llol
But ffs, don’t breed.
lupine got a job teaching larry king how to use the internet
Poor Lupine
oh geez that’s harsh for poor Lupine
larry king tried to kiss him
Lupine! There are such things as REAL GIRLS! I promise!
glock’s ass is still sore from my loving from last night
I heard that girls are icky and have cooties not me dude
Lupine, leave my donkey alone… the poor thing is limping!
did you bring a horse for me?
swigert girls will make you buy things for them
Bestiality may be legal where you are… but it’s illegal here.
have to go .. bbl
icky!
Goodbye comet! Nice gal..
Pub! took the GRE today - have a very good chance of coming down your way next year
swiiiiiiigb
11 minutes..
good for you
Swiggy’s heading to the deep south…
I remember taking that.. man
if Penn State accepts me, maybe I’ll be more out our way that’s right, you Yankee
Then go cook dinner. clean house and go to bed..fun!
Thanks for getting that song stuck in my head Future links from you are banned from my browser ;p
which song?
The Carpenters
Penn State! and not far from Gettysburg..
UVa is another school
well Im dusting like crazy for the winter cause I will be closing up the house soon. and thats when all the dust settles.
The that went with your masturbation material
gross.
When dust settles, sometimes you find things like BODIES! j/k … maybe
sounds like a Haiku
Its not that bad, Not like men who never clean.. haha
I am a neat freak
When dust settles with Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe… dust settles for big money in its personal injury suit.
swigert is anal
Swigert try this one http://www.lez.hu/ahh.swf
Lupine: That is basically a portrait of a liberal The only they need to do is draw Hillary holding the spoon
wtf was that?
Liberals What was dancing in front of the liberal, was Hillary seen in her true form
A good liberal comeback would be… “At least we have brains to expose”
being a liberal isn’t so bad, so long as its a classical liberal..
I have a feeling Bush will come along nicely as a liberal.
liberals suck so bad
where is that guy freetimer, he told me he and comet ran the channel, I remember him lecturing me about how liberals were leftists not liberals. Well I sort of understand what he meant, but I am so used to them being called liberals.
eh, Bush has been a centrist since he got elected.. no changes coming.
yeah leftist is the correct term but i still like to say liberal
leftist is a odd term…
its hard to get it out of your head..
tomtom25… FreeTrade is FreeTimer
Yeah, I did understand the argument
’socialist liberal’ is better for the nomenclature.
oh, is he here ?
I am a non-leftist Liberal. I won’t go out with girls who work for the Post Office or Teachers or anything like that.
His nick is usually something FreeT****
easier to contrast to a libertarian liberal, etc.
Libertine, or just “socialist”
I have interchangable Liberal and Conservative parts.
panini: eh, its important to append socialist to liberal or conservative; since both exist.
oh, ok, like when I tried to use this chat thingy it gave me random nick on the last few characters.
you can have very conservative socialist states.
tomtom25… not exactly, but it doesn’t really matter.
the main thing is to shut the socialists out
He’s the Free-something with the great big @ by his name
freemumia
Freemania
ok haha
so the Liberals have to suck the leftist votes in and then screw them in the end.
@FreeWilly
freemumia! they did didnt they ? I mean he isnt going to die now is he ?
Libertine, conservative in what sense?
Damn if you get accused of murder, go to prison and write a lot of anti conservative anti american stuff and you will get commuted to life in prison
you should watch Glenn Beck
panini: socially conservative.
if you are slated to die
extremist exposed
when I am in the Liberals I pull to the right and when I am in the Conservatives I pull to the left.
Libertine, i suppose it’s theoretically possible
I hated the way politics got that guy off from the death penaly when he murdered some womans husband at close range with lots of witnesses and numerous bullets the cop who died
panini: very possible; look at Italy 1939
John, if you are in prison, write liberal books, or left books… might save your life you willl get a following
Didn’t work for Tookie
if I am in prison my bitches will be writing books for me.
“And it burns burns burns… that chair of fire… that chair of fire…
they fried Tookies cookies
Almost did though, Good thing it was the terminator Your terminates tookie! terminated well time to go thanks you all for being so nice!
Ah. Italy has cigarette vending machines. ~1 mile apart, down the roads.
o_O
the US used to have cigarette machines
Still do in some places.
Most bars have em still.
The US has never had them, to the point of using them like mile markers, though.
Holy crap was it quiet outside, though.
I guess Italy actually sleeps.
Libertine, well italy 1939 was *fascist*. Not necessarily conservative
Just get back from Italy?
I’m in Italy now. What time is it, CST?
8 pm
8:08
panini: fascism is a odd term; considering nobody can really define it. the best definition I have found is; a consentual dictatorship.
Thanks
panini: however; you will find heavy elements of socialism in all 20th century ‘fascist’ governments.
astrodog is startled by his own wit
Libertine, anyone who actively restricts the freedoms of others is fascist
Swiss Chocolate is tasty.
wth are you doing over there? Vacation? Business?
neither
Confrence + “S.A.T.”
he’s a stallman groupie
Lies!
school crap?
panini: authoritarian sure. dunno if i’d say fascist; it adds odd nomenclature; and results in me refering to the republicans as having a fascist view on drugs.
anything that isn’t democractic is fascist
Work, kinda.
theres too many forms of government out there, its clear to see in the year 2006 that if a government isn’t democractic that its evil
Use a brick, next time.
ya ok so monarchies are fascist even though they existed before fascism
yep
sonic___ go eat a burger
dictatorship
ok maybe you should stop making up definitions
haha
europeans are crazy and want weird types of government
But, its more fun!
they hate themselves
Europe seems nice enough to me.
um, the thing with fascism is the uniquely powerful appeal to the notion of nationalism, which is completely against socialist principles.
democratic governments can produce fascist ones. in fact; every fascist government I can think of; was put into power via the democratic process.
Europe seems nice? If you deny the holocaust you go to jail. thats not free speech.
a romantic blood tie to the land type of thing.
In Europe… Stupid is a crime.
I can see why you wouldn’t like it…
like i said.. i do love the definition of fascism as ‘consentual dictatorship’
um, it’s not really a democratic process when every opponent is killed, jailed, forced into exile, or terrified into submission.
hrmmm
sonic___, so Ahmadinejad would be arrested if he travelled to europe?
and that’d be consensual
Timur…its waht democracies do best
sual/typo
what is
panini: dont try to refrence some Muslim holocaust denier you just read about on a news article online like your mr.brainy
jail political opposition?
Libertine were losing nationstates
Facsism… Its not rape… its “Rough Trade”!
CryHavoc: losing?
kill political opponents of the ruling party?
yep
CryHavoc: hrm.. doh
yeah, that happens all the time in the US, Europe, Japan. except not.
sonic so you aren’t aware that dinny is a holocaust denier?
CryHavoc: least we have 350m now.. we can suggest new lawds.
3 were not addressed within 28 days..so they went bye yep my taxes were too high….
sonic sounds like you are not well informed
Thus why he opposes stupidity as a crime.
your taxes are too high, so that means we’re a fascist country? or what
yes
Timur-: no, we’re just heading towards a supreme authoritarian state where our freedoms continue to shrink.
ok, then every functioning government is ‘fascist’, and fascist therefore ceases to have much actual meaning.
Timur-: gun freedoms, medical freedoms, drug freedoms…
yeah, that’s it. medical freedoms? wtf is medical freedom
going to any doctor you want to pay for
government being involved in outlawing a medical procedure.
ok, someone obsessed with guns and drugs is.. er.. well, you know.
it means no socialist medical nanny state like they have in Europe
human?
a very small minded one.
What about the right to choose which medical procedures will be done?
there’s something fascism very specifically meant when it was founded as an ideology in the 30s; its used more widely now because its like an epithet
Timur-: gene thearapy, cloning, abortion, selective embryo selection…
were guns and drugs and drugs and guns hrooo hroooo
therapy/typo
I will only be obsessed with them if someone tries to take them away
redfish: one of the reasons im not find of using the term fascism.
well, if the drugs ain’t illegal.. etc
find/fond.
medical wills
yeah, top of my list of priorities as a supremely selfish, narrow minded jerk
illegal and legal drugs… the idea there is a difference is nuts.
yeah, it’s nuts
the default position should be “okay as long as there isn’t an over-riding social need to ban”
crack for babies
Timur-: explain to me why D.A.’s go after Doctors for prescribing pain meds please.
instead, the default position currently is, “we might let you do it if we can’t think of a reason to ban”
besides them wanting to make a name for themselves, get in the papers..
adults should be able to use cocaine, if they screw their lives over it too bad
because they overprescribe sometimes?
taking down the big bad doctor for political gain, yeah.. drug freedom.
Libertine pain is good…because the law says so…
this is where the gap between ‘reasonably functional people’ and ‘people on irc’ grows to become unbridgeable.
er, dude … you’r a “people on irc”
Timur-: overprescribe… im glad government exists to tell me when my pain is managable. you know, cause it’s not a privacy issue, or a personal choice.. it’s mother fucking government telling me i need to suck it up.
not all people, but it seems a plurality, even a majority
heh
and as a result; other doctors are too scared to prescribe the meds to people who need them.. awesome.
yeah, because it never happens that people OD on oxycontin.
the point is that individuals have individual preferences that you can focus in on and pretend they’re dysfunctional … but overall the problem is there and it’s a big one
or they really are, and yeah, that’s a problem.
Timur-: do you even know what is in oxycontin?
Rabbits
yep I read about it. It’s like synthetic heroin, apparently.
Babies
no, the point is still, even if you choose to ignore it, the people who are trying to do the banning don’t know any better than the rest of us, even though they try to pretend they do
that’s pretty facile as an assessment; do you really just mean ‘the bans lack nuance’?
heh.. damn all those synthetic heroins..
it is technical elitism in its worst form
lets ban them all that’ll show em’
I have an MD so I get to tell the rest of you what you can and can’t do you have a degree in education so you know better than the rest of us how to educate people
anyways; oxy like other semi-synthetic opiods are fairly harmless outside of them being in huge doses.. like MOST drugs; including say.. tylenol.
That’s fine…. now toss me some scripts.
no
I know that people do abuse Oxycontin, degree in whatever or no
it’s arrogant and anti-american
among other drugs.
The whole point of training and education is that one person will know how to do something better than another.
of course; i dont drink bleach either..
lol yeah, it’s really arrogant to.. read the news.
the idea there is some oxycontin drug problem is all media hype. real addicts dont bother with it.
of course
yes, and I wouldn’t go for medical advice to someone who didn’t have education and experience and a good reputation, but it doesn’t give him the right to force me to do what he advises me
http://news.google.com/news?q=oxycontin&btnG=Search+News&hs=KFr&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&tab=wn yeah, it’s all media hype, because it never really happens in Liberworld
A patient can deny treatment. And change docters.
it’s arrogant to pretend you know better than everyone else
Timur-: the CATO institute has looked at the oxy-scare myths, and I am inclined to believe their findings.
also, there are no crackheads or people shooting up smack
now, yes … not if Hillary’s plan had gone into effect
uh, no, it’s stupid to think all people know what’s right equally well, leading to no laws and no standards.
There will always be recreational drug use. *shrug*
Timur-: plenty of people use drugs; your point?
do you think she has abandoned the plan? no, that’s not stupid
Timur-: plenty of people drive cars wrecklessly; wanna ban them?
plenty of people are worthless and harm not only themselves and society
I don’t think it can be passed.
cars generally function for valid purposes, and aren’t really addictive.
Just like Repubs and that whole gay marrage amendment thing.
there should be constitutional limits on who can pass laws and what they can pass laws concerning, no matter how smart they are
Timur-… Remember… the reason we have anarchy among the drug-infested ghettos is because anarchy isn’t legalized yet… vote Libertarian! w00t!!!
ok, I’ll leave the crappy analogies for another time
Cars are addictive.
I hope you’re right
Timur-: ahh there is the ‘i know better than you smug elitest’ i knew lived inside you..
yeah, libertarian. no, it’s not that.
Timur-: yes, all those ‘worthless’ people; glad you get to be the judge there.
I grew up in West Philly and saw what the impact of crack was on the community and it was uniformly bad.
Yes… there ARE worthless, stupid people.
Timur-: freedom invites behavior you may hate.
so, no, it’s not just ‘me’ being the judge, it’s society in general. that’s why laws are passed.
as a physician with training and experience, you can generally trust me to give you good advice about your health … you cannot trust me to pass good laws about your health care
And I get to be the judge of that. Just like you, or anyone else. Because we’ve got brains!
so, deal with them, or just continue kvetching helplessly, while seeking some more drugs and fondling your guns, or whatever it is you do and now, I’m off.
society in general means “no one in particular” … great
later no, it means ‘the majority of the voting public. cya
so arrogant
Later timur!
no, realistic
not Timur’s best quality
OcDoc: imagine if any other service industry was as regulated as the medical industry… “I’m sorry sir, before I can give you repair advice for your TV, you’ll need to sign these documents for HIPPA, and these release forms..”
what’s arrogant is assuming everyone has the same capacity of judgement. They don’t. Reality. Deal with it. later.
OcDoc: “Do you have TV insurance?”
Your guts are more important than your TV.
“deal with it” the favourite phrase of the arrogant
TimothyWT: right, ‘people are dumb’ so lets ‘pass laws to protect them from themselves’ great nanny-state attitude there. freaking elitests…
we’re in power now, tough luck if you don’t like it
People *ARE* dumb.
If the past 50 years are proof of anything, its that people really, really want a nanny state.
No denying that.
some things are victimless crimes and some are not
and failing to distinguish between those with better and worse senses of judgement is .. stupid? delusional? something bad. bai
Smarter than monkeys? Usually.
people are dumb? sure; is it government’s job to save us all from the least common denominator? fuck no
it’s true
we bitch about it in education; we lower standards - so the lowest of the kids can still keep up..
the problem is there is no stopping place to say enough
now you want to do the same with FREEDOM.
Government’s job is to do what we compell it to do.
After several weeks of working for a government, the one thing I can say without a doubt is that people are fucking morons, especially voters.
you want to lower freedom so even the dumbest people (as you call them) can handle it. it’s insanity.
Pickle`… indeed, sir!
The people are pretty much forcing the US to become a nanny state, and as such, we deserve what we get.
the constitution was originally intended to protect each moron’s rights from the others now it’s some kind of excuse to get us all lined up and pulling in the same direction… the definition of fascism
Aye… but the morons have since been given more power. Almost any moron can vote and they vote in more federal elections.
People love welfare. The best trick is to fool the middle class into thinking they’re getting “free” services because we’re making “the rich” pay for it all.
The constitution cannot protect us from a supermajority of idiots.
the excuse is that if you’re spaced out on oxycontin you can’t be contributing to social goals
having freedom in a society means that you need to respect other peoples rights to freedom also.
“soak the rich!”
somewhere in there it became assumed that it was my job to help society achieve its goals … sad
At this point, it is.
“Hey, why’d my taxes go up? I’m not rich…”
The pressure is amazing. The letters I’ve read have been shameless in their demands for free shit. And none whatsoever demanding a contraction of government.
it is NOT my duty to help society achieve its goals, especially when I disagree with the goals too late now no doubt
Your duty, from society’s perspective, is to do whatever society demands. If you don’t actively reject that… you’re allowing it to happen. Your duty, from society’s perspective, is to do whatever society demands. If you don’t actively reject that… you’re allowing it to happen. So, at this point, we deserve what we get… because we didn’t stop it when we had a chance.
it is societies duty to leave me alone as long as I don’t hurt someone else
But I only dress the part on weekends.
Society doesn’t have a duty to anything but itself.
not so society does not per se exist …
There is no spoon?
so it is fatuous and self-serving to even mention society in that context there are only individuals, no matter how much they would like to hide behind the cover of some higher purpose
The reason society can now compell you to do various things, is that you have allowed it to do so in the past.
if society offers me a choice between prison/death or doing what I”m told, I have to go along or die
You don’t HAVE to go along. You choose to, because you’re unwilling to face the consequences of not.
if a significant number of my fellows are willing to risk their lives to fight, I will join them
I do the same thing.
OcDoc: yeah… obey or be punished.. it’s an awesome choice. OcDoc: to be fair; it worked well for religions.
I deny that a choice forced upon me by others between two things that I don’t prefer is a choice
so.. it’s not like we didn’t have a working model
But, you don’t actively reject the choice.
actually, I’m doing quite well under the current system I’m like everyone else, they have divided us to conquer us, and the only real choice is to refuse to be divided
watching the last episode of “dancing with the stars”….astrodog wishes he could have done the fandango with liberace
The people want a nanny state… and eventually, that’s what they’ll get.
some of the people do, some don’t
So many do, that the ones who don’t can choose to live with it, or be punished.
the people who don’t have not yet seen the need to band together to resist … things will have to get worse before that happens
democracy is not anarchy, people have duties like taxs and military service in times of war
Heh… a libertarian uprising… now that’d be a fun thing to watch on cnn.
and to obey the law
bullshit
astrodog: the active rebellion of the nanny-state is educating others of the dangers of said nanny-state.
mornx, the US is a democracy?
