11.28.07

would everyone here agree that history is circular in that it seems like the world is a bipolar one where we go

Posted in Politics at 6:51 pm by Michael Johnson

Non religious, non secular.. just a day of family

The parenting experts will be sent to 77 areas with high levels of unruly behaviour, teenage pregnancies and truancy from school. The £4m scheme will also force the parents of disruptive children to attend parenting courses.

burp …. we are still eating leftovers but not complaining

So, as I was asking what crisis in Lebanon I spoke to my friend on the ground in Lebanon and he says no crisis

Writing in the Sun newspaper, the prime minister claimed the initiative would tackle the root causes of crime and disorder.

Rebec, what question ?

FreeMrkts well I am making two large pumpkin pies from scratch - tomorrow - and we are having fresh rolls too…

redfish fat chance

Comet you ate early ?

So, as I was asking what crisis in Lebanon I spoke to my friend on the ground in Lebanon and he says no crisis

yes, I cooked on Sunday. My friend has to work on Thursday .. so we did it on Sunday.

Kaliuna, Sweet potato pies are good too, They taste almost the same as pumpkin Comet wow, I knew you cooked early I didnt know you actually ate it early wow. You going to have a small tday dinner again ?

I always have sweet potatos, but pumpkin pie

sigh ok I’m going now

No sweet potato PIE… haha

FreeTrade well I am not going to cook again lol

FreeMrkts — ya one is from squash - one from pumpkins home grown

It must be southern thing, I learned it from the blacks.

Fed-Ex to me

My wife though never had it before.

we have sweet potatos as a side dish

you can still make it on time

here too Comet

but a lot of blacks moved from the south here during ww2.

and we always have pumpkin pie

And my wife being from texas isnt really like the south sougth

butternut squash for base for one pie and then pureed pumpkin from home grown pumpkin

deep south Texas is a whole other world hehe

FreeMrkts - actually several worlds — just depends on where you go!

some years I buy sweet potator pie and yams but pumpkin usually and yams See I learned more baout black cultuer than my wife.

we also have a traditional greenbean casserole on side too

Especially when I lived with that black vietnam vet friend of mine for 2 years.. I learned a lot.. Also it was all black neighborhood

kali .. lol. Yep the green bean casserole

But hey, I have to go watch a movie with my son.. Have a good night.

Comet - yup – Nite FreeMrkts - enjoy whatever movie you see!

We are going to watch Goodfellas been awhile.. good movie.. night all.

nite

COmet - and of course dressing and mashed potatoes and gravy - not going to have canned cream corn bit til christmas…

kali .. one of our staples is home made cream corn. It is feindishly fattening US so I have it on Xmas, Easter and TG made with real cream and butter

I don’t mind canned creamed corn… as long as it is mixed with a can of regular corn that’s been strained.

Comet — ya Christmas here — but there are so many people eating barely get a spoonfull

my husband would have a cow if I didn’t fix it

The canned crap is like lumpy broth.

Glock — of course - and with crackers and oysters - way they like it cheese topping

Canned corn and ramen noodles… helped keep me alive… mmm…mmemories…

ya Comet - you sent me that recipe — it is delicious!

I use frozen corn, real cream, butter, a touch of salt, pepper and sugar. Thicken it with cornstarch. It is out of this world but not something you would want to eat very often. lol

hahaha http://www.break.com/index/door_to_door_atheists_bother_mormons.html

Comet - you realize we are going to make everyone hungry!

ten billion calories per bite

an atheist goes door to door in utah trying to convert mormons to atheism.

lib… rofl

hah that’s awesome

lol Libertine

as long as he is polite

what would that be like? “Have you lost Jesus?”

“Can I talk to you today about Atheism?”

“Did you know when you die, there’s nothing, no god, no soul, nothing, you’re just wormfood.”

something along those lines

“Have you rejected Jesus from your heart?”

“Have you heard the Real Truth about Jesus?”

“Can I interest you in the latest volume of selected works of Noam Chomsky?”

“I’m sorry, ma’am… but I’m here to inform you that your god has died.”

oh you guys sure not a whole LOT of news - in the news -

did you hear Kaliuna about baraba bush jr bush duagther getting mugged

Meh…

: Secret Service agent on advance detail with Bush twins ‘badly beaten’ in attempted mugging…

Any real news?

once when a Jehovah’s Witness knocked on my door at 9AM on Saturday (after my 3AM shift the night before) …. I pretended my dog’s name was Satan “sit Satan!”

US .. hahahahha you are soooooo ornery

he went away promptly hahaha

US-Male, you did hahah one time at band gamp

well it was like the 4th time

cap US-Male, you should come out in a santanic costume

I once told a pair of Mormons I can’t convert to their faith because my wife wants a faith with one wife and multiple husbands.

with fake blood dripping Libertine,

the first three times I let my ex handle the Jehovah’s — she would preach her religion to them

thier no k-fed tapes

haha this is comedy gold…

with spears

he’s got a copy of origin of the species…

that’s a hilarious viseo hilarious

wow drudge has no news wow hi pilgrim`

“We atheists believe the bible isn’t true..” Person: “I’m a bishop.”

hail Eris

pilgrim`: you watching this link?

link? no

http://www.break.com/index/door_to_door_atheists_bother_mormons.html

why does the cpu gmonedesklet say my cpu is at 100%

a pair of guys from austrialia travel to utah to knock on the doors of mormons to preach atheism.

and mem 52%

Hail Meeyakab! The New York City god of transportation.

ah

Kramer

does linux use that much cpu 3, 3 users, load average: 2.12, 2.11, see look the load is huge it like I am playing a video game or have massive windows open

gop yes, it nibbles away at a Core Duo, by the time Linux has eaten its full, all that is left is a 386

just xchat and firefox and two terminals pilgrim`, darn

linux consumes the microscoptic transistors slowly; as guided by eris herself… scopic, even

so saith the Dealy Lama

little do people realize; linux was a usenet flamewar that got out of hand

true. just because somone called that Finn a Penguin…

what do you mean flamewar flame is that true

no everything is a Lie, All is Permissable! -Hassan al Sabbah

hello

awa

pilgrim`, I have a GenuineIntel

tagu

CMOV MMX SSE SSE2

siam

what does this mean sse sse2

I wonder how that guy decided those people were Mormons anyway

gop then get the Dead Cow distro or the later 10.4.6 one

would everyone here agree that history is circular in that it seems like the world is a bipolar one where we go back and forth from a conservative to a liberal-based society?

I bet it’s not good to be on the berge of a stress related heart attack at age 26, amirite?

dead cow distro

verge

????

verge damn it

pilgrim`, doe sit have network support

sse sse2 and sse3 are chip instructuins absolutely nothign like but similar to MMX

oh

lol there is a #melgibson fan club

capabilites of modern cpus

what the linux command for cpu info cat /proc/

ECT Chuck Norris hereti

haha

c

k I found out Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz

gop wish I coudl help but I know nada about computers

oh I see hahah k I will get the dead cow distro

gop you have a good usenet feed? -s’ better then torrents

I wish everyone could experience the joy of Agnosticism

US-Male, i do

Us Male so my priest tells me

we worship Agnos

hehe

nah just kidding

muslims worship Jinns or not

agnos is that god via Texas A&M?

yeah same guy !

not the jinn is the same as the jeanie or varriant spellings; per the Koran they are the spirits of the desert released by Soloman the great… associated wth pre-Koreshian Arab pagan practices

“A security researcher has published attack code for an unpatched flaw in Mac OS X, the latest vulnerability in the “Month of Kernel Bugs” campaign.” “The year of Death!”

dead cow

since he discovered it in some KFC fried chicken it is known as the Kernel Sanders bug

clut of the dead cow was some fake hacker group

look up hippies from hell but then I would knot know anythign about that well my puka calls

is tomarrow turkeyday?

Thursday

ahhh im gonna go to kfc and get a bucket

finooks

fourth thursday of Nov…

Black Friday is almost here…

yay

weeeeeee ive been waiting for it

I love that there are so many BF sites now

3J — good day to stay home

gonna sacrifice a goat

http://www.blackfriday.info/

Kaliuna, yep

Black Monday works then “Cyber Black Monday” or whatever

shopping already done - except for last minute things… stores started sales early this year

Cyber Monday. It’s the day the web goes on sale, which is wickedly easier to handle than Black Friday http://www.cybermondaydeals.com/

all the PS3’s you can carry … $2.00

lol 3j

I went nuts on the Wootoff last week

granted they won’t have any stock until next april ….

Damn, EMS AAS is a 68 credit degree

DKLassify - ya I can believe it

I’m thinking about taking it at my community college here in VA To do EMT work

DKLassify - go for it — its needed

Ehyeheh

a lot of EMTs burn out quickly once in the work field

I suppose

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Lebanon braced on Wednesday for a bitter power struggle after the assassination of an anti-Syrian Christian cabinet minister which his allies blamed on Syria. Industry Minister Pierre Gemayel was gunned down on Tuesday as he drove in a Christian suburb of Beirut, becoming the sixth anti-Syria politician to be killed in nearly two years. Hours later, the U.N. Security Council approved plans for a special international court to try suspects in the February 2005 assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik al-Hariri. Christians in Lebanon should ask Israel for help in joint operations against Hezbollah and Syria

oh no the christian democrats are going to win, its going to be a theocracy. the ACLU should establish a branch in the netherlands to sue the party over its name

red - hmm interesting…

A slump in the US housing market has prompted the White House to revise down its forecasts for economic growth. The Bush administration now expects gross domestic product (GDP) to grow by 3.1% this year rather than earlier forecasts of 3.6%. Growth forecasts for 2007 were also clipped from 3.3% to 2.9%.

hrm.

redfish — projections are always either too high or too low…

Now that I have a super fast connection I dislike torrents

how did you get superfast connection

We talked about this before, superfast = 10mbps down

don’t you just have cable

Yes, but it’s wicked fast

how did you get 10mbps most cable provider cap at 5

They offered it in my neighborhood, I took it Nothing special.

was it some type fo sepcial

nope

they told you it was 1-mbps err 10

I was going to switch to a business account Because I work out of my home

oh so you bussines line

The sales guy tells me that in x many months they will be offering 10mbps, so I don’t want to get locked in to a business account

they told you the speed was 10 mps

can’t switch later it’s not a business account

so he just gave you it under a consumer plan

and with two torrents, IRC, firefox, trillian, and my work FTP going I get 7mbps on speed tests yes

hmm but normal consumer don’t get this boost correct

Anyone who wants it in my immediate area who wants it can get it

oh do you pay extra per month oh so why is it that you hate torrnets know

HI Kalo at WOrk

Because if I use something like upfile or whatever, a full episode of House or Lost takes me maybe 5 minutes

going to reboot after unbutnu update

Torrents are slow for me

wtf is upfile I never heard of upfile

it’s a site that allows large file sharing

is upfile a new think

not really

is it newer then torrnets

there are quite a few sites of the sort yes

so it a 2006 thing

I’m officially an asshole.

why do I never hear of things

eh, not really Crispy, why for?

hrm.. My Chemical Romance is being called ‘too emo’ by the lead singer of Guttermouth… man it’s a slow news day..

Haha…

haha

Well, tomorrow I start debate on why we should allow the torturing of suspected terrorists.

wiki has nothing on upfie

And this is the opening of my speech.

upfile for class work or congress

spread-it.com, megaupload.com, up-file.com mediafire.com, zupload.com mooload.com, rapidshare.com, etc.

Crispy`: heh, be prepared to get the argument that the constitution doesn’t explicitely provide torture powers to the federal system.

well Libertine they are not americans

“In America, opinions on terrorism differ greatly. Whether you call them freedom fighters for their cause, terrorists, or the bad-guys, nearly everyone has an opinion on Terrorism. So, one night I asked my Uncle Steve what he thought of terrorists. However, he never answered. I didn’t really ask him that. I never had the chance, because he was killed by terrorists in something called 9/11. Perhaps you’ve heard of it.”

Or that Torture doesn’t really work

thus the constituition don’t count

Crispy`: you’ll need to explain the implied nature of some listed power that would extend tortue as an implied power.

torture does work

Gop, no, not really

not americans? canadians?

I don’t have an uncle steve though.

pinkfu, it proven towork

So, I wonder if I’ll get marked down for that.

Crispy, haha

perky canada has their own government and laws i heard…

the fbi, cia, said it proven tow ork it does give you information pinkfu, you can’t deny the fact

Gop, “because I say so” is not proof

I don’t say so the fbi cia

It gives too much info

good

Nor is “no, not really”

heh.. torture me and ill tell you anything you want to hear; I’ll claim to be the Queen of England.

you can then sort the information it better then NO information

Libertine, that’s unlikely to be what you’d say.

I mean, I can make my brother confess to being a 9/11 terrorist if I sit on him and dangle spit above his face

pinkfu, yes, but we know your bother background

Gop, wrong, bad info is worse than no info

DStewart: well i’d use more swear words i’d imagine; and there would be a lot of sob’ing.

ANd no your bother won’t be totured

Otherwise we’d know that what torturers get out of torture are such claims.

pinkfu, right, we won’t toture or arrest yoru bother bother he an american

I think it was Rummy who really made it clear… There is information we know we don’t know

even if you pay us, we won’t pinkfu

and there is information we don’t know we don’t know

pinkfu, thier always information we don’t know that common sense

and there is information that we know we know or will know soon

gop: so.. no torturing johnny walker lindh?

pinkfu, you can’t say we know it all

Torturers can get false information to stop the pain–when the true information is unknown by the victim.

Libertine, was he a terriost

gop: was he? gop: heh

how can we tell

Gop, the problem is going off half cocked at bad info takes away attention to the gathering of actual facts

But when the victim of torture knows the true information, that true information is what torturers can get.

gop: pretty sure he was a illegal combatant.

pinkfu, how do you know it bad info pinkfu, or good info

gop: that counts right?

The CIA, NSA and FBI are in shambles and have been for quite some time

pinkfu, that your opnion

Not mine

and I can agree to a certain extent but it not 100% in shambles and they are working better with each other better then before

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Walker_Lindh

For example, a friend of mine has been a CIA consultant on mid-east affairs for the last 15 years

pinkfu, oh you have a friend, who outed himself as a worker for the cia bpinkfu, oh you have a friend, who outed himself as a worker for the cia/b

His work is not secret Duh. Yanno the CIA advertises on the teevee these days it’s not a secret people work for the CIA

Say goodbye to pinkfu, people.

Join the CIA; We put the “M” in Mindcontrol.

DS — hehehhe

Not only did he consult for the CIA but both his dad and step dad were Navy SEALS. :X omg I said a bad thing

DS - hi and happy pre Turkey day

the NSA is gonna come kill me

Kal, back atcha

NSA doesn’t kill people; thats the CIA’s job

Got the turkey thawing in the fridge

here too

Okay, well the NSA is listening and they’re gonna tell the CIA to kill me

Damn, gotta do another shopping run though

except they’ll probably kill my neighbor by mistake

ohoh DS - what did you forget?

so you friend is an expert on the cia

Not forgot… need baguettes and don’t want to buy them more than a day in advance

DS– don’t tell me you forgot the whipcream!

hehe, technically; NSA can kill you; in fact; of all the agencies NSA is most likely the one to kill domestics. CIA is for foriegn spying and operations only, FBI is supposed to be the only domestic spying..

(pun intended)

gop, I am not sure why you think that the state of the CIA is some big secret

I never said all of the cia is but it spying right and spying is secret

Libertine, good point Where they spy is secret, or supposed to be the where/how

im not sure when the NSA took over the FBI’s turf on domestic survellience tho.

The fact that they spy is not a secret

lots of overlap i guess.

sure that logical pinkfu

Libertine– overlap — ya know after 911

Lib, they hire better people?

but if they are the ones spying why would they say then they are cia

NSA pays more

Heh… “buddy works for the CIA” stories are almost always BS… “buddy was a [insert special forces type here]” are almost always BS… but a buddy in the CIA with 2 dads who were both Navy SEALs… my BS detector just exploded.

bah.. NSA did spying on us long before 911.. remember eschelon?

and FBI requires usually requires full agent training

Libertine - ya - but am talking about the OVERLAP

that what I mean I can say I know some who works for the cia

how can you have 2 Dads

under clinton the nsa was spying

Libertine - see one agency didn’t talk to other agencies and kept vital info to themselves.. ya know

Glock, he’s also a political science professor and worked on a presidential campaign

US-Male… real, step, biological, legal, etc

pinkfu, wow

US — dad and granddad - or bio dad and a step dad

I’d happily give you his name in PM if you want to check it out

I have 3!

Glock21, rofl.

Heather has two mommies

I belive

pinkfu… sounds like he’s a professional bullshitter

so what is your friend opnion

pinkfu: providing credentials is rarely effective in irc arguments.

professor… whatever same same

Libertine, I know, but I don’t hide shit or BS

he probally just a professor

you should never give anyone’s name out

US well that too is possible but only one is bio

pinkfu, how do we know that

He wouldn’t care and neither do I

pinkfu, how do we know that

Gop, the real question is, do I care if you know that?

I guess you do you been trying to prove it

If I had a prof that said that kind of crap, I wouldn’t buy into it if I were you.

for a while

US - well I take that back — cause they do have those implanted ones ya know

Not really, but it’s there for the taking

heh

this professor has some deskjob at the cia he realy knows what happens at the cia

US and there is this other dad thing too — but not going there… gets too complicated

I have no idea I do know he refuses to work with them anymore

what if two dads have sex at the same time with one wife who the real dad

and, like I said, the work I know of has never been secret

the one who stu…. oh never mind

pinkpink

gop dna will define

onefish

but if they both you know at the same time

err, twfish err redfish!

the details would be too much for the channel

good

and probably for you

gop: you’re serious?

I don’t care I was joking

gop: first sperm to the egg wins.

gop, uh, the one who’s sperm is in the egg? :P

ot ug.

but P_O my joke was what if both sperm came out at the same time

let me just say that “double penetration” is usually not errrm…. in the same place

or where both implated at the at the same time

and leave it at that

gop - there is no joke there only ONE can fertilize the egg…

US-Male, lol

hahaa

What if a woman has two uteruses (sp?) and has sex with two different men… and gets knocked up by each a month apart? COULD HAPPEN

some females have two uteruses wtf

What if a hermaphrodite has sex with themselves!?!?! Genitalia mysterys!

wtf is that

hermaphrodites are never completely developed to have fully functional genitals for both sexes.

Libertine, I know.

P_O, is an expert

I’m making fun of how most of these things under discussion are impossible or borderline. uI’m making fun of how most of these things under discussion are impossible or borderline./u

oh, that’s what it’s called uterus didelphys

you want to think os something unusual…. have you heard of a chimera ?

‘chicks with dicks III’ .. very educational.

I smell pizza

wow

wtf is chmera

great discussion

oh well

chimeras, one person, multiple DNA.

td`, it a great discussion

chimeras are neat.

oh so a person can have multiple dna two fathers

Libertine loves Danielle Foxxx

biological

Chimera

in theory it possible

well the definition in m-w.com may mislead you

well chimeras exist.

what if P_O you mix the sperm of two fathers and injected it to a female egg

There is a technical name for it specific to humans

but I mean the definition as a person with two DNA codes

I just can’t think of it

gop, it may be possible but I bet if it happened it would just die.

P_O, hmm why

“Democrat”?

gop, cause a mess up with DNA can very easily lead to death?

I wonder how much human chimeras make by submitting to genetics researchers?

P_O, wow you are a dna e xpert expert

hrm.. money.. yummy

“In zoology, chimera is an animal which has two or more different populations of genetically distinct cells that originated in different zygotes; if the different cells emerged from the same zygote, it is called a mosaicism. It is either acquired through the infusion of allogeneic hematopoietic cells during transplantation or transfusion or it is inherited. In fraternal twins, chimerism occurs by means of blood-vessel anastomos too much text and too much lingo

gop, not really. Iv’e just read the descriptions of tons of genetic disorders.

P_O, you asnwer like a poor

Tetragametic chimerism

P_O, so your docotral theies is on genetic disorders like a pro

to for example, fraternal twin fertilized eggs, that “merged” somehow

err not poor

resulting in one person

usmale is edumacating us

US-Male: indeed.

gop, I doubt I’ll study genetics in college.

why P_O you seem to be a pro at that

two sperm, two eggs, then they merge.. poof you get the rare tetragametic chimerism

p_o what will you study

Libertine, wow

redfish, probaby Comp Sci.

P_O, will go in to women studies

And Mathematics.

and organism that is made from 2 zygotes fusing together.

or african american culture akak hiphop and gang music

gop, I already know a fair amount about black culture considering I’m not black.

which if you think about it; explains the mythological reference given as ‘chimerism’ a merged beast.

check this shit out

Libertine, how does it affect their appearance?

“Chimeras are formed from four parent cells (two fertilized eggs or early embryos are fused together) or three parent cells (a fertilized egg is fused with an unfertilized egg or a fertilized egg is fused with an extra sperm). Each population of cells keeps its own character and the resulting animal is a mosaic of mis-matched parts.”

Libertine, I think you discover something

and, I think this is more common than people realize

P_O: I’ve met a chimera, they look like normal humans.

P_O has read Microsoft’s Encarta Africana

Libertine, maybe you should write about it in some journal of scinces

yeah

gop: huh?

yea

gop: i didn’t discover anything.

Libertine, you said that could be for some wierd dissformed human

but you could really screw up a DNA test being a chimera

gop: huh? i never said anything about weird disformed anything

or, maybe get away with something

US-Male: yep, child custody cases have encountered chimerism as a problem in the past. lyda something case.. forgot the name. lydia?

people are probably mislead by the first websters definition which describes monsters and stuff misled

going to reboot

the greek mythology for chimera is a multi-headed beast, etc. a merged animal, etc.

but it’s just a person with some dual or stray DNA incorporated

yep im curious to see what happens when we start to see animal/human chimeras be born.

here’s something interesting “Chimeras can often breed, but the fertility and type of offspring depends on which cell line gave rise to the ovaries or testes.”

right now we have made zygotes of human/rabbit mixed. but they are not allowed to progress to maturity. for ‘ethics’

it would seem to be a big mistake to do that, would it have “rights” as a person ?

libertine has to put quotes around ethics

of half the rights, or what

ORLANDO, Fla. - Relatives of a mother who committed suicide after CNN’s Nancy Grace aggressively questioned her about the disappearance of her son sued the network and the talk-show host Tuesday, accusing Grace of pushing the woman over the edge. lol nancy grace gonna get pwned

redfish: indeed.

indeed

redfish: what we can do with genetic engineering is being severely hindered by what we will not allow ourselves to do.

what about all the black comedians who have anti-white racist rants thats just comedy!

birth human/animal hybrids for instance, it can be done right now, we just will not do it.

libertine so?

which is sad; considering the potential for organ harvesting.

yes organ harvesting is very important

a pig with a human kidney… for instance.

Libertine - well they have grown human ears on mice –

redfish, meh. It looks like this case wasn’t really comedic.

Kaliuna: aye, i saw that

I’ve seen some really anti-white black comedy

lol

but it’s funny. Where as this wasn’t.

it would seem to be a big mistake to do that, would it have rights as a person ? Or half the rights ? or zero

US-Male: im sure it will never happen in the US, we’ll just all fly to some commonwealth like Saipan to get our manpig organs

p_o i know it wasnt comedic, but you couldnt do anti-black humor that passes as funny. and most of the anti-white humor really really isnt funny

lol

Is it rational? Human? Does it depend on reason to survive?

ah good ol’ Saipan..

If so, it’s human and has rights.

probaly the most free nation in the world..

It has already happened….. witness Ted Kennedy, the MANPIG is Ted rational…..

p_o when i watch a black comedian do anti-white humor , it looks as if the audience is laughing just because he’s making fun of whites, not because he has any wit

I say “nay”

velcome all vulnerable vocalists visualize vivid verb play in my vortex

Torturing suspected terrorists is currently illegal, yes?

so long as we allow abortion, i’d say we have a lot of gray area to work with in genetic engineering with chimeras..

virtually, no verse’ll be vinnin ova me…they vapor, my verbal voltage vanquishes

which.. is helpful.

It might look like the work of a mad scientist but the mouse with a human ear growing out of its back is simply a host. You won’t find this mouse at the circus. It’s at the University of Massachusetts where Dr. Charles Vacanti put a mold resembling the shape of a human ear into the back of the mouse.

that’s a host, like DS said

It’s not a “human ear.” It’s mouse tissue molded in the shape of an ear.

grafted

redfish, well, most black comedy that I’ve seen that involves whites is usually just a tangent off of something that was already witty. I don’t think I’ve seen someone base an entire bit on “ha white people”

Well, both human and mouse tissue.

I have, Chris ROck

Anyone? Simple yes or no answer.

But it’s not human.

“crackah ass crackah!!!!”

A human.

p_o it uses stereotypes of white people, and stereotypes are funny. but try a stereotype of a minority

redfish, like thrifty Scots?

eh ‘bioethics’ are always a fun subject.

yes thrifty scots

redfish, Queen of Scots

p_o some of the old cartoons in the 1920s that involve stereotypes of blacks are actually funny

Libertine, Saipan is more free than the USA……………………?????????????/

Torturing suspected terrorists is currently illegal, yes?

there is a felix the cat cartoon, where there is a black man sitting on a curb yawning, and a baseball goes into his mouth

Crispy - there are rules and you must define torture –

redfish: heh, they’ve edited Tom & Jerry to remove all racist sounding voices.

but acts considered torture are currently not allowed, right?

Duffsterr: you disagree? Duffsterr: economically and in terms of industry and scientific regulation - there is none.

Libertine, welllllllllllllllll……….. slightly…………. lol…..

Crispty - again define it — what is “torture” to one, might not be to another

Libertine, i hear ya…………..

Duffsterr: labor laws for instance, non-existent. Duffsterr: hard to get more free and unregulated than Saipan.

please, people aint prepared to be persuaded by politcal paraphrases they printin in the papers

I know that.

The mouse with the “human ear” was not a genetic experiment; no genetic work was involved.

But I’m saying, actions currently deemed by the US Government as torture are illegal to use on terrorists, yes?

Crispy - as I said there are “rules” as far as torture — so would say it depends

alright, just making sure.

Libertine, but POLITICALLY they have ZERO FREEDOM……….

Gotta write a speech to suport a bill that allows the torturing of suspected terrorists.

Duffsterr: heh ya got me there.

DS — correct - it was implanted… but that it was able to be done and successfully is interesting

there are documents in the hands of the government that they have not released, but we know exist due to an ACLU freedom of information act lawsuit, that explicitly defines what procedures the government considers as acceptable (not torture)

Crispy - see what the bill defines AS torture… proceed from there

Libertine, i am with ya though…. WHY IS IT… that peoples ABROAD……….. INVEST in the USA………… WHY IS THAT……………..

however the U.S. is also a signatory of the UN Convention Against Torture

“The U.S. government doesn’t tortue..” … when i hear that, I’m reminded of vietnam era spin.. “We’re not bombing people, we’re deploying ordinence.”

Kal, it may be interesting, but not with respect to questions about human-animal genetic crossbreeds

Libertine, POLITICAL FREEDOM……………

DS — true –

as a treaty, that is considered higher law than a statute, or executive branch policy, or judiciary department interpretation

torture, even

Libertine, that is so goooooooofy………..

Duffsterr: hehe.

geeeeeeeeeeeeez Libertine, CHINA LOVES THE USA TODAY,,,,,,,,,,, WHY?????????……………

Duffy - quit yelling

to be fair; i dont think we’re ripping people’s fingernails off or putting them in pits of leeches, but the entire subject makes me take notice.

“there are documents in the hands of the government that they have not released, but we know exist due to an ACLU freedom of information act lawsuit, that explicitly defines what procedures the government considers as acceptable (not torture)”

P O L I T I C A L F R E E D O MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM………….

http://poplicks.com/2006/10/cracka-ass-cracka-barrel.html

Kaliuna, sorry, truth shall kill u

Crap, you mean they actually thought about this and made distinctions and definitions?

Duffsterr: the currency markets allow China to make a killing off us?

THAT’S FARKING CRIMINAL

Duffy — I can read without being yelled at

yes

“Ain’t no laughing matter when two black women refused service in a restaurant in South Carolina. But when it turns out to be Chris Rock’s mother and sister who were refused at a restaurant chain known as Cracker Barrel, I can’t help wonder whether Chris is thrilled he’s struck upon such a goldmine of comic material.”

DStewart, hahah

IMPEACH BUSH

its political freedom lol

More torture memoes!

hahahha yeah impeach BUSHHHHHHHHHH loloilolol

Can’t we just give Bush peaches?

Memos!

“In fact, I wouldn’t be totally floored if Rock had secretly sent his family to every establishment with the word ‘Cracker’ in it just to see what would happen. Sometimes, I forget Chris Rock didn’t invent the word ‘cracka.’”

unreal……………

Instant Messagae Peaches to Bush? message/

Libertine, u hate others to boot? Nixon? Lincoln…?

“American president George W. Bush spoke out against “human-animal hybrids” in his 2006 State of the Union address.[1] In 2005 the US Patent Office rejected a patent application by Stuart Newman, backed by anti-biotech activist Jeremy Rifkin, on a human-animal hybrid. [2] This application was intended not to commercialize the technology but to call attention to and ultimately suppress it. [3]”

Crackah Ass Cracka Barrel

Duffsterr: i dont hate Bush, i do find him to be a horrid president tho. Duffsterr: impeaching him is a giant waste of all our time and money.

whenver I eat crackers, I cal them “crackah ass crackahs”

Duffsterr: as for Nixon & Lincoln, Nixon was just a little dirty, Lincoln was an actual Tyrant.

Libertine, okay, so u hate…. like the comedian here recently……

i told ya; i dont hate

dude, we get it — you’re a hybrid. We all are rooting for you man!

hating requires effort.

Eual Eights for Hybrids! oops Equal Rights for Hybrids! goddammmit

US-Male: Hybrids get better gas milage right ?

hehe

US-Male: why were they refused?

I doubt that they were

Libertine, ahhh okay, Lincoln was an actual Tyrant.

I think they got slow service like happens to everyone, and assumed things

Duffsterr: in the classical sense, yes.

Libertine, sup hahahaha Libertine, i am with ya….

when offered a free meal, they turned it down “we don’t want a free meal NOW!” well fuck yah

Duffsterr: ’sic semper tyrannis’

Libertine, i ahahahahahah amen

they should vote with their wallets like we all do tell all your friends the place sucks

america is still climbing……

I often question who was the bigger tyrant.. FDR or Lincoln, Lincoln was more oppressive and far reaching for his time, but FDR’s acts have managed to screw up this nation for still 6 decades beyond his death.

I don’t get how someone can sit for an hour with no service

its unreal………

I’d be bithcing in ten minutes

unreal for real?

bitching too

Libertine, quit being the new FORCE in politics…. Libnertarianism….. damnit…………. its pathetic…….

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