11.28.07
oh how would you expalan the various castes and their historical introduction into Inda in sequence then just
lol you prove your own ignorance nothing bigotted about what i say
they’ll take you for all you’ve got!
i employ aborignals
jhicks…heh
nothing wrong with tht they get equal pay compared to the savarnas
hickster you divorced from one?
rond squirms at hard realities, then labels anybody who tries to improve the situation as a bigot
but there is practically no intermarriage
no, i’m divorced from satan’s daughter
you must be the intellectual light of your family
Arya India’s cheerful intolerance takes care of that
sort of if you marry into an aborginal caste..you lose your family name and inheritance rights
jhicks..now we know why the wiah to come to the USA..
you become an aborignal thats how it works
hey rond, since you deny that ghetto crime is rampant, you like for them to be in that condition? i think you’re the bigot, for you advocate their demise via crime
no dowry, etc
Arya…that is so fucked up it is not funny
dowry frm a dalit wow cryhavoc it isnt fucked up
hehe
Arya…yes it is…
it’s their culture it’s old
idiotic intolerance
very old
its the only reason india survives after 800 yrs of islamic butchery and 200 years of loot by the british
jhicks thats prob why they come to the USA…..
You know what I find ironic? Mexico moans about the US approving a 700mi fence on the border… yet Mexico defends thier southern border with armed guards and will shoot people trying to cross w/o questions
among other reasons
what did the brits loot?
heh Islamics in india 100 Million….
is there anythig to take?
hypocritical is a better term
what do you expect?
the Hundus could bury them if needed
compdoc
compdoc…heh
why do you think all european countries set out to find a sea route to india and named the ppl “indian” wherever they landed
guten morgen alles
because it was the richest country in the world
because they wanted pepper!
rich, in terms of what? curry?
and india had bad ass stuff
heheh
guten morgen doktor Octopus hehehe
like cloths, dyes, foods etc
evil spices caused britain to become an empire
where’s that nasty Spiderman?
spices *thwip
He who conrols the spice conrols the universe!!!
yep they went broke buying pepper
er, no wait that’s Dune
*thwip *twwip
read accoutns of muslim conquerors and the europeans who came to india
theres a trailer for the 3rd spiderman movie on the new monster house dvd
CrySpiderHavocMan I dunno Doc Oc
what they looted and the vastness of their loot
what’s Dune?
its a novel
Series of Novels by Frank Herbert
you dont know dune?
yes, I was being cute
don’t do that! I SAID DUCK
haha
Oc Duck….
india is not the only place with a caste system iran had one so did japan
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm P~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ duck!
the japanes still have an untouchable caste lol
it’s been caste aside
Europe has a classist elitist system similar to Indias caste system the USA does not have one
and the usa will turn into mexico in the next 100 yrs
similar as in “different”
arya nope
ok 50 yrs lol
sheesh, im all for becoming mexico, if we could unify the land mass also to 1 country
Mexico will turn into the US in the next hundred years
we will have another 9/11 here… DC will then get a clue and seal the whole border
with wood putty?
you need a system to divide society so tht it functions properly equality is a pipe dream
riiiiight … seal the whole border
‘man is clannish and divisive by nature
Arya….no we don’t ..that caused animosity
divide society? like put the poor into camps? or maybe races?
OcDoc it is doable
compdoc…who told you tht upper castes in india arent poor?
better get started, it’s going to take you a while
the supposedly high and mighty brahmans fare behind many backward castes in economical terms
Aryaputra, next you’ll tell me you live in india
big enough crew..it could be done in 6 months
yup
phfft - everyone knows theres no braodband in india
but you don’t have a big crew … so far only you have volunteered
India has some internet Infra…
512kb/s for 7usd a month
OcDoc…when DC gets a clue…we will have the workers
Aryaputra is ~drupadk@59.184.184.189 59.176.0.0 - 59.185.255.255 MTNLISP MTNL CAT B ISP IN IN = India
sounds like a heavy subsidy
not really
let me analyze that … “when DC gets a clue…” … nope still doesn’t scan
we dont pay line engineers 30000 usd a month lol
ThePixies = Nazi
ThePixies the band are a bunch of fucking lunatics neofeminist scum
of course arya could be using that IP address to connect…..
the only worry I have about Mexicans living in the US is they expect free shit like they were supposed to get back in Mexico
Arya I do not know any country that pays them that much
dunno
last night’s south park was ok
labour is cheap
I had one guy who got a cut on his hand … wanted to be off work for six weeks “because it hurts”
OcDoc…..seal the border..you address muiple issues….
raw materials are cheap
well, we disagree on all of those issues, so I don’t want it sealed in the first place
including Mexico being forced to get its shit together
services and healthcare are obnoxiously expensive in america
Mexico will only be able to get its shit together when the people demand it
nor do the dems or the GOP….there be profit in those illegals!!
I don’t see how if mexicao has not been able to get its shit together in 100+ years how its going to be able to in the next 100 but I agree lock down the borders
yup … profit benefits everyone concerned, so you want to put a stop to it?
rond1…because Mexican governmental policy is encouraging illegal immigration to the US….
NAFTA didn’t help with respect to making Mexico clean up its act
but if we seal the border……goodbye policy
Sanctions would have been more effective.
I don’t think there is a way to make them clean up their act
jhicks….it did to an extent…
maybe no way
but not far enough
the only thing we should make clear to them when they come here is “no free shit” … but that’s hard when we haven’t even said that to our own citizens okay … speaking of no such thing as a free lunch, I’m off to work
bbiab need food
Welp, looks like I’m heading to New Jersey
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hehe i bet that keeps claims down
what a stupid and totally non customer friendly scheduling system
do you have vonage service?
No why ?
try disconnecting THAT sometime for fun it’s impossible to disconnect nearly impossible anyway
vonage does not seem like a good situation if I need *911*
vonage is horrible for most intended purposes it’s TERRIBLE
that is what I thought reason I never tried it
skype works much better it sucketh skype really surprised me though
anyone here uses metastock?
What’s a metastock, basis for some super soup?
Long Pig? seems there is a plentitude of supply
omg! no receipt!
tailor voting has an important role to play; it adds your name to the jury pool thats about it
I think thats done via your drivers license at least in texas it is
They never called me
seiously, back in the main frame days, I once worked an election “count” and watched corruption in its natural habitat Texas? well then, Duval County decides anyway
Actually we don’t have voting machines, it’s an electronic vote marker that marks your ballot for you, and I guess records it electronically.
the diebold machines I know something of professionally, that is as a IT guy I know how it is set up
It gives you back the ballot marked as you decided and then you put it in the box.
and I do not trust them
You also don’t have to use the thing.
metastock is a technical analysis software
in our state we have vote by mail
India is a country full of troublemakers!
yep
well they have 4 times as many as the US
so is pakistan
but then they have 4 times as many people
Yeah, Pakistan too
isn’t that a Indian province?
troublemakers? lol it will be in 2 decades
SO I have heard whispered
My friend from India always tells me… ” The Hindu’s will rise up! “ lmao
yeah
Sikh and yee shall find
were practising rt now sikhs are hindus
not quite
really?
they are in the same way Christians are Jews
Everyone beware, the hords of dancing Hindu’s are going to overwhelm us by throwing flowers at us.
how may i ask?
of course Sikhs are also Moslems..that way
i meant in the cultural sense
different colored turban
sikhism was formed to defend ppl from muslim tyranny it is a militaristic order
The Hindu’s will rise up!
and ended up getting their golden temple bombed by hindu tyranny some years back iirc
hindu tyranny?? hahaha..indira gandhi is not hinduism
Aryaputra, now what of this *untouchable* thing, have those people been recognized as human beings yet?
hindusim isin’t a thing its a alot of things
thetailor we have 20% reservation for aborignals in all govt/pvt educational institutions
hinduism is more a conglomerate panganiist animaist cultural consensus
lets see when you do tht for the africans in your country
TT Aryputra has already opined on his belief that the US has problems because we do not have a caste system
Africans?
ohh sorry african-americans
aborignals…. Is that what they are?
Aryaputra this country is a wee different, we have interbred for generations regardless of what the wolrd press says uAryaputra this country is a wee different, we have interbred for generations regardless of what the wolrd press says/u
so have we except tht when you marry into an aborignal caste you become one
here ther may be some social divides, but nothing as rigid as a caste
Wait a minute…. How did these people, the SAME people as the rest of Indians, become aborignals?
india isnt one ethinicity
ethnically the untouchables LOOK the same as say a Brahman to American eyes.
not to indian ones though
How long have te so called *untouchables* been there? 10,000 years, like the rest of the society?
you see?
and we have dravidian brahmins too
by hoarding poorness
ghandi tried to get rid of that crazy caste system didn’t he?
hehehe not really
Americans come of many ethnic backgrounds but our sons and daughters being rebels tend to get the itch with different folks
while drinking his own urine
he was a strong proponent of caste
The so called *untouchables* should go on strike.
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Bush signed a bill Thursday authorizing 700 miles of new fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border
jhicks-hrm k :/
good for you pilgrim
Then you are all fucked.
Ghandi was nothing like that silly movie
to each his own
that’s a fact, look it up
no he wasnt he was a sick sob
the fence John Cornyn said there’s really no funding for. And don’t look for a physical fence either. Cornyn said it’ll likely be a “virtual fence” comprised of cameras and sensors
Aryaputra caste was built on waves of conquest right up to the Raj. English are still the top caste
caste wasnt built on waves of conquest
L0c0 its political grandstanding
agreed
it was a simple system do divide society into occupational groups
pilgrim`: amnesty is the plan
which do not intermarry
it always was
heh i’ll agree with you two that its grandstanding
amnesty is the bush/democrats plan hell no more agents that’s the plan
oh? how would you expalan the various castes and their historical introduction into Inda in sequence then? just moving into the country with packed suitcases?
what happened to the bush that wasn’t concerned which way the wind was blowing back on 9/12?
naw, it’s all make-believe
it is not a coincidence tht out of india’s richest 50 …45 belong to the merchant class
this is the US side of the border near my house: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/pfjunkie/politics/US-MEX-border.jpg
Aryaputra, how do you justify treating people in tha manner that you treat the untouchables?
you cant grow paddy for 50 genearations and turn into a businessman in the 51st
these are REAL fences and the illegals still manage to get through…”virtual” fences will be little more than a payoff to some buddy’s tech company
yea seriously
I saw it L0c0, matter of fact, prolly b4 you were born; and it looked diff then, I have BEEN there
Aryaputra, how does India move into a mocern world with ass backward thinking like this?
that’s just dogma
thetailor…how do you know how i treat an untouchable?
they’ve already tried this once before and it failed miserabley
you certainly can move from paddy to penthouse
the human rights groups…where is the outcry over the untouchables’ treatment india? where?
sure
Aryaputra, through national goegraphic/
but its very rare
agreed
treament IN india*
L0c0 are you familiar with the gun writers of about a gen. ago who were all Border Patrol all in El Paso? names like:
yeah, these fences were built/beefed up starting in about 1991 when Reyes (then head of Border Patrol here) started “Operation: Hold The Line” which put more agents and barriers along the border
Bill Jordon
Aryaputra, the fact that you term them untouchable is telling in itself.
Skeeter Skelton
brahmans dominate teaching positions..most indian sceintists are brahmans
now he’s flip flopped to the otherside and is losing MAJOR support here he won’t be in office long
Col Askins
the indian army is 70% rajput (the warrior caste)
Tom Treepersons Threepersons
names sound familiar but don’t think i’ve read anything
indian business iscontrolled by the merchants
-Indian (American Indian)
its no mere coincidence
is 20% of the military reserved for untouchables?
we have been in trade for thousands of yrs no
Threepersons developed a jolster that is made by El Paso Saddlery
they have an untouchable regiment though
holster
unmilitaribles
Incredible
do the untouchables operate the call centers?
yup
Tailor imagine Oklahoma circa 1875
AHA no wonder they’re oppressed
more than 2/3rds of call center employees are south-indian aborignals
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42516-2005Apr10.html
there ya go
lol
and Reyes and his daughter were right in the middle of it
hehe
i don’t see this new “virtual” fence being any different…we’ve tried it and it failed
I hope they go on strike and tell the rest of society to clean their own shitholes.
L0c0 election year + fence = votes
Civil War in Mexico? Insurgency? In recent months the violence has included a total of two dozen beheadings, a raid on a local police station by men with grenades and a bazooka, and daytime kidnappings of top law enforcement officials. At least 123 law enforcement officials, among them 2 judges and 3 prosecutors, have been gunned down or tortured to death. Five police officers were among those beheaded.
why? becuse of “defective equipment” and “lax oversight by government officials”
“hi my name is John Smith. can i help you?” “Your name isn’t really John Smith, is it?”
what makes us think future politicians will do any better once the election is passed us by
wtf
Lupine Poncho Villa rides again!@
i hope people are so stupid as to fall for that grandstanding
is this guy saying that americans weren’t concering about immigration 18 months ago?! http://www.mattcave.us/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=104770&article=1496788
???..john smith didnt invent capitalism or was tht adam smith ni
L0c0 whadda you think? they are
i mean, isn’t that the same thing going on in iraq?
Adam
I was referring to ficticious call-center employees names
no, actually the Phonecians did
lol heheh and a fake accent
yeah too funny
i think we should boycott India until they get rid of the caste system.
Barak is speaking on campus this afternoon. Unfortunately, I can not attend.
im john smith from langley virginai
the fake accents are not very good fakes
the weather is fine lol
fat chance
we can pick that off in a split second
gotta go
too much money involved
morning disbelief
Unionize the untouchables!
what? defective equipment and lax oversight by gov’t officials?
heh..most call centers employ first yr college students with no experience of any kind thetailor theyre more organized then the rest
arya-i never passed college and got in a call center 
they have their pwn political party own pressure groups etc godfist neither did i
hrm disbelief says he needs voice again
Aryaputra, do you hear yourself? *they* have their own party, *they* have their own pressure groups….
don’t voice that idiot
yes?
he is a pure trouble
In all, the violence has claimed more than 1,700 civilian lives this year, and federal officials say the killings are on course to top the estimated 1,800 underworld killings last year. Those death tolls compare with 1,304 in 2004 and 1,080 in 2001, these officials say. they’re not terrorists in Mexico, they are Freedom Fighters!
Aryaputra, you are equal to any racist KKK pig in America’s past.
why???
WHY ?
worse.. at least the KKK acknowledged they were racists!
you asked me abt the “plight” of untouchables in my country
My god, look how you and other Indians treat these people.
im giving you a realistic view
you know but i’m realizing that the politicians are only partly to blame
well
Yeah, *they*….
the real blame is w/ the american voters
then i would be castiest
b/c we keep re-electing the same do-nothing pendejos over and over
I want to go to the Barak talk with a big sign “USS LIberty” fundementally, we get the government we _deserve_
we don’t hold these damn idiots accountable unless they do something outragously stupid like get blowjobs in the oval office or try to hook up w/ pages sadly i agree http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/pfjunkie/politics/Mexican.jpg
i’ll give up burritos and taco’s to get the stinking illegals out
http://pics.livejournal.com/tongodeon/pic/0004xhys/s640×480 -work safe i think
Or if they get caught taking money, well, of course if you are a Democrat, you can do that though…Jefferson
this pic is better - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/katygyo/what%20the%20funke/IMG_0120.jpg
yea.. that’s been floatin gaound alot lately.. its great and any accused is guilty without a trial.. well, of course if you are a democrat.. then we withhold judgement until after the verdict is in
AAAHAHAHAH i found him! haha
?
http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/061026/K102604U.html wth toy cops uttering curse words?
PARIS (AP) — Youths forced passengers off three buses and set them on fire overnight in suburban Paris, raising tensions Thursday ahead of the first anniversary of the riots that engulfed France’s rundown, heavily immigrant neighborhoods. maybe they should hire German police to ride the buses? [ no point in having french police.. they’ld just surrender ]
youths? is this a racial thing? were the youths of a different colour than most bus riders?
well.. based on last year, they are muslim youth.. but the media refuses to let you know that
muslim may be an overreach
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/25/gilchrist.commentary/index.html read the Navarrette one too
I’m not convinced that most french arab youths are muslims
that navarrette guys’ a complete and total idiot
well, last year, it was mostly muslim youth/teenager/young adult
are they really muslims if they don’t pray or follow any significant part of the muslim faith?
as the laws against burqa’s was in part, one of the sparks [ excuses ]
or does that just make them angry arabs?
e-her: i believe in religious freedom.. if they say they are muslims, than they are
but are they True Muslims?
ah, but who decides that? i believe religious freedom means the individual decides what his religion is, and what it comprises of
god?
The patrolman, Brian Koch, was shot outside of Rifle on Tuesday night by an assailant who fled the scene. Various law enforcement agencies have been engaged in a hunt for the suspect today. — what a coincidence…patrolman shot in rifle CO
well, he’s not being very communicative lately
was he shot with a rifle, in Rifle?
well, he’s talking to me on a daily basis!
article didn’t say
e-Hernick seek professional therapty then!
therapists are well known to be the devil god talks to me, and his name is Elron Hubbard. he has pointy ears.
No that is elron hubbard
Elron is 3000 years old, and he is immortal. Also, he tells me that the Republicans are going to retain their Elron-given control of the congress, and that this shall be guaranteed by electronic voting machines.
Want to defend the US/Mex border? We need stationed every mile along the border. that would mean approx 8000-10000 agents/day. 3 shifts + support
one a mile isn’t going to stop it plus the tunnels
when they started Operation HOld the Line, they put one agent every mile illegal immigration in the area dropped 90% THAT is results
nah.. the best way to defend the border is to install automated machine gun turrets every 50 yards, with a fully automated sensor suite. Human would still make the firing decisions. In urban areas, a 35 meter-tall (15 meters underground, 20 above) spiked, razor-barbed electrified wall
I think we could do the same with a wall/electronic survey… and fewer agents
‘course thanks to cuts, there’s an agent every about 2-3miles along the border here now
the electronic wall needs guns to back it up
e-hernick: hey iu’ve been advocating for gun turrets for years now. but the mamby pamby illegal lovers say no
big guns damn them liberal nancy-pansies..
virtual fences don’t work rond; they’ve already tried that (recently even)
but…did they try virtual fences, a robust wall and the proper amount of agents ?
e-hernick: they’re not all liberals, some are people w/ a vested interest in keeping a cheap illegal labor pool they’re not gonna fund a robust wall
they’re unamerican, and most unamericans are liberals.
we’ll see
at best they’ll put up a sheetmetal panel Senator John Cornyn of Texas has already come out and said that approving the fence is one thing but funding it is another and that the funding isn’t there not for a physical fence anyway
Could be I will wait on this all to shake out more before I have an opinion about that
cameras and sensors…that’s all thesepoliticians are willing to spend for they can raise/spend $2.6BILLION during this campaign but finding the funding for this is impossible imagine what $2.6BILLION could do for border security
illegal aliens need to face the ultimate penalty for their actions.. they are not citizens, they have no rights; they are invaders and terrorists, and they need to be dealt with with the maximum harshness conceivable. America needs to drive out every single illegal alien.. By setting a graphic example that will cause every single of them to flee back to where they came from
maybe each state just needs to hand out to citizens a black official shirt with “INS” on the back
I have no doubts that most people coming illegally are coming to work
we all where them as much as we can er wear
BUT…b/c NOBODY can guarantee that 100% of those coming illegally are NOT coming to commit crimes there has to be a system to keep them out and funnel them through legal means of entering the nation
Loco my problem is with the cheap final product from cheap labor
i do believe we need to allow more workers in yes legally
The only way to solve this crisis that threatens the very core of America’s purity of essence, is to frighten illegal aliens into leaving voluntarily. I say that by rounding up illegal aliens and inflicting upon them the ultimate deterrent, the others will get the message and flee without delay. And if they don’t flee, then we need to increase the intensity of the hunt, and crush them without mercy.
hehe…houses?
exactly they don’t give a shit why should they
and they’re exploited. employers know they’re not gonna unionize they’re not gonna complain about conditions
and they don’t use normal tools in mexico anyway IE, levels, measuring tapes etc
if they have to work 12hrs shifts the’re not gonna complain
they just eyeball everything
and they’re gonna get paid far less than what they’d pay an american to do the job
they are endangering american citizens with their shoddy work and non-existant work ethics
all of these pro-illegal immigration people, i bet NONE of them would be willing to give up their money/homes/etc to guarantee that no criminals will cross why do you house lock your doors at night? why do you lock yoru car doors? for security right? sure, most people in society are good people
for example, what do you think cause the recent e.coli outbreaks? Feces, clearly. Most likely, illegal alien feces. The illegal aliens have slaughtered too many Americans by spreading disease and poverty, by bogging down the health services, buses and highways, by causing traffic accidents, and some of them are homicidal maniacs and gang members.
BUT…there are those that will try to break into your home or steal your car THAT is why you lock your doors why should our border be any different?
rond, e-Hernick is so full of shit its ridiculous hes a liberal who trolls here with exaggerated ‘conservative’ beliefs
do you deny that illegal aliens have caused thousands of americans to die? and thousands more to live in poverty and squalor?
e-Hernick, No I don’t deny that at all, but I do assert that you’re a shithead
there should be an easier legal avenue for illegal workers.
should I join you in throwing feces? I agree that it is a very efficient debate technique
some of them do important jobs
e-Hernick, I’m not debating with you
work camps
e-Hernick, I’m just telling my friend rond, how it is
I’m not sure they should be instant-citizens with voting rights (like the democrats want)
You’re full of shit, and thats that
as in “the world according to Herzen”
but they should be permitted to pursue a better life for themselves and their families.
you’re right.. my intestines are filling with shit as we speak
lord knows there isn’t shit for them to do in mexico
yes, they should be allowed to pursue that life in mexico but in America, they must be denied life itself.
e-Hernick: the mexican government has failed to provide an atmosphere for them. e-Hernick: that’s clearly an ignorant and unrealistic position.
Sudan has failed too. Are we unamericans’ keepers?
our economy needs migrant workers… I they there should be a legal means for them to do what they currently do. e-Hernick: this nation is built on immigrants. if we mass-deported every illegal alien in this country, the entire agriculture industry would collapse.
mass deportation is not realistic
agreed
the ag industry would not collapse
e-hernick, e-coli has not been demonstrated to have come from feces to the best of my knowlege and its not been determined what race of people may have even cause it if any. As I understand it, it was in the water supply on these farms. There it grows on its own without treatment. Thats almost racist
it most certainly would.
Damn close
as long as we keep the Canadians out it should be OK
no way jose’
Its definately unscientific.
of course, it is pure speculation.
hmm, no reaction
I just don’t think they should become instant citizens and get voting rights
oh well
rond, e-Hernick is so full of shit its ridiculous — E hernicks prev comment was pretty out there wasn’t it ????
Why speculate racially ?
what a day of wild stupid comments so far
it’s not about race It’s about illegal aliens
Illegals help generate a LOT of wealth for U.S. citizens
they can be of any race, I don’t care.
first, for the most part the only sector of the ag industry that heavily uses migrant workers is the produce sector. dairy, beef, grains, etc are not affected by migrant workers
its not like their presence is completely negative
Colored people may have sold the drugs that killed joes brother who died of a cocaine overdose. Thats how it sounds to me.. Then again it could of been his white cousins. And I dont see where race is an issue here either.
it’s really not about race
e-Hernick wants to bring illegal maple syrup across the border
tree farms use migrant workers heavily, too
migrant farm workers are used mainly as pickers of vegetables and fruits
Doug, No way in hell should they get citizenship or the right to vote, that would be an affront both to the system and to those who applied legally for citizenship, so I agree with that.
so, you’re saying that if they were mass-deported it would have no impact on the ag industry
e-hernick, you suggested that Mexican shit caused the E-coli deaths, how much more racist can you get.
absolutely.
If you mass deported them
the impact would be mostly in vegetables and fruit
It would have major ramifications on a number of industries from construction to fruit picking
they’re more important than most people think.
mexicans aren’t a race, they’re a nationality
My understanding is its in the water supply, E coli is EVERYWHERE.
I said nothing about mexican shit. I said “illegal alien feces”
It is literally
and I think they should be permitted to work here, just without voting rights.
I mean you’re talking about deporting 10 million workers at once which is fucked
and migrant workers could be given short term visas just for the picking season
I’m illustrating the downfalls of that mindset. I’m not sure anybody is advocating that position.
get real, there is no way they are going to round up all the illegals and deport them in one day
Its the quantities and ability to breed (The e coli not people) which causes health problems and usually its in packing plants, factories, packagers, etc, where it happens.
It’s simply about the fact that these are illegal aliens. Illegal aliens are not citizens, they are not american, and they have no rights. They don’t exist, and they shouldn’t enjoy any protection under the law. They are invading America, and we must ponder if they should be reclassified as illegal combatants taking part in an invasion of America.
it will take years to round them up and deport them
doug, there are a number of people who do
They do exist. You may not like the fact they exist but they do.
e-Hernick is mad because we won’t let him sneak in
e-Hernick: I agree they are not citizens, but if you were a mexican wouldn’t you want a better life for yourself and your family? they’re actually pretty hard workers, for the most part.
sure.. hell, as a Canadian, I’d love to move to the USA
he’s jealous of Mexicans
but given that there are so many illegal aliens, it is very hard to immigrate legally
and if welfare were not so lucrative, there would be many americans that suck up on welfare to work on the farms and earn their money instead of freeload at the taxapyers’ expense. it’s workfare not welfare
again, I think they should have a legal avenue to do what they do now,.. which DOESN’T include automatic citizenship or voting rights.
if the illegal aliens weren’t there, legal migrants would take their place.
e-Hernick: have you ever read ‘The Camp of the Saints’, by Jean Raspail? it’s an excellent book on the topic, describing how an entire country could be taken over without a shot ever being fired due to immigration.
would you rather have 12 million illegal aliens or 12 million motivated migrants, more qualified, coming from all over the world?
I was in a suburb the other day. Ok, This is a suburb, good paying jobs at some stores which are know in the area of northern california and I was in a bunch of different businesses yesterday, 50% were hispanic, I looked and thought, Hmm if 50% of these people dissapeared tommorrow what would happen ? And the obvious fact is it would be an economic disastor. So some nmiddle of the road solution must be found which satisfies
e-Hernick have you thought of getting a really good tan and trying to look shorter ?
the majority of americans.
e-Hernick: I think the answer is to make it easier to become a legal migrant, and go after employers who employ people that ignore the system.
And this was a suburb.
e-Hernick: clearly I’d rather have them documented, and have them enter the country legally. I think the border fence is a good first step, too.
all hispanics in the US are not illegals. Many if not most are legal and many if not most are US citizens
but the fact is they’re important to our economy.
I agree making it easier to become a legal worker without citizenship rights is an answer. That way you make sure you get taxes, you know who is living here. you send back people not living up to their end of the deal etc.
absolutely
anyway, gtg, bbl.
may need to roll out a national ID, which is tamperproof, too.
I think most of us can agree as a matter of simply national security, the U.S. needs to take steps to secure its southern border
so they can’t go to places like oregon and get a drivers license
btw, the mexican wwealthy employ illegal guatamalan aliens in mexico for cheap labor and they say the need the guatamalns to do the work that the mexicans will not do and that the mexican workers are not any goog
employers need a reliable way to verify whether a worker is legal or not.
“The Commerce Department reported that the median price for a new home sold in September was $217,100, a drop of 9.7 percent from September 2005. It was the lowest median price for a new home since September 2004 and the sharpest year-over-year decline since December 1970.” proces went back to 2004 levels prices
national id sucks.
why? you already have one it’s called your SS card
national id violates the whole, entire principle that this county was founded upon
People have known I have supported some form of legalizing workers which includes a fine of between $3k to 5k per person. If they think I am for citizenship rights and voting rights for these people they dont understand my position I never have been.. Also the ones in gangs, on welfare, violating other laws, criminal histories, etc, come down on them like a ton of bricks, in fact focus on them and get them out of the country.
well, when i got my ss card it had printed on it not to be used to id purposes
your papers please!
you don’t use your ss number for id purposes?
nope
so, you don’t have a job? you don’t pay your taxes?
But anyway, Im heading out soon to that suburb..
of course i do
you don’t go to the hospital?
you don’t need a SSN to have a job
a couple more weeks there and then back at home again.
that is not using your ss card for id purposes
all of those things generally require a ss
Taking December off or most of it anyway
it is uising your ss card for tax purposes
that is using your SS number which validates your existance … a national id card is just a much longer number
