11.29.07
US^Male what would you rather do Build the chromatograph operate the chromatograph or use the information generated
The only thing that pulled it out of the spiral was WW2.
US^Male: because it’s foolish for americans to become scientists
it;s not cheap, they are paid WELL
they’ll just get offshored
then you will have to accept it when we import them
I don’t have any answers, I wish I did.
H1-B visas are an abuse.
L1’s worse
we pay them well, and we have ot bring them in — else no new drugs
that’s bullshit
how do you get us students to go into science and engineering when they see pimps, drug dealers, movie stars and athletes get all the chips?
jhicks it’s factual
What’s great about growth, is that it makes it so that I can make a dollar, without you losing one.
I’d recommend against a career in science
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jhicks, why?
I’m not against growth
it pays quite well for me
US^Male: patience
Without growth, EVERY economic system fails.
jhicks I’m very happy with it
wrong
US^Male: patience
With the exception of a command economy, and then, simply because it can force growth. (Which it then handles very poorly)
growth that comes as a result of producing more than you need is not necessarily good growth
Free market rewards everyone according to their worth
cancer is a form of growth too
when there is no corruption
growth supports a growing population and vice versa
Can you cite any examples of stable, growth-free economies? Ones that haven’t just spun into the ground?
by the time something really bad could happen I’ll be retired. I’m saving every penny I can. save your $$
US^Male: a depression could happen It’s happened before
jhicks — Corruption aside, the free market does some amazing things
and, I’ll have money saved.
I doubt it … we’d have to agree on the definitions and do major research to answer that question
indeed US^Male: then hyperflation hits
jhicks you forgot the comet hitting the earth and Al Gore’s ocean rising 50 feet
US^Male: because we’ve printed too much money and China wins economic war and dumps our worthless cash
oh wait, I am 140 feet above sea level
then where are you? 90 feet above sea level
I”m counting on it … we bought our house at Exactly 60 feet AMSL
then I am still 90 feet above sea level.
exactly
that gets China nowhere
I will have beachfront property !
sure it does
nope
I’ll be rich !
we’ll get instant waterfront property
I’m like, MAYBE 12ft above sea lvel
Sea level is rising == have no fear
It does all the business with the rest of the world we used to do uIt does all the business with the rest of the world we used to do/u
jinz
The European Union will have to deal with High Interest Rates
yeah, worldwide depression.
when the sea level rises it will wipe out liberalism in america
My stepmom’s house is like 1″ above sea level
fueling the spread of communism
OcDoc — Blue costal states
and tyranny
NYC, LA, SF and Seattle, all gone
haha
And only then will we realize that China was conning us
Happy Gilmore on USA!
once can only hope! 
indeed
no the Europeans would beg the Chinese to go back to the dollar it would make Europe Broke !
I suspect global warming is a plot by the Right to wipe out the costal Blues
a defeinite change from all the politics crap
lol OcDoc
sounds like fun!
The Chinese want Europe to go broke!
AAAman must be silenced before his discovery blows the plan!
They can get all the oil that way.
4 Leading Military Papers: ‘Rumsfeld Must Go’
China will not get any OIL !
stay right where you are .. the black choppers are on their way
survival of the fittest!
says you
Shut up and swim
what’s a “military paper?”
that’s the idea!
tough on the rear end
OcDoc — I am glad you asked
“Waterworld”
TERRIBLE movie!
lol
heh
Democrats set to lose 20+ house seats
if you put it through a Simulator you would see both China and European Union going broke if all the nations switch over to the EURO !
Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times and Marine Corps Times.
bud`: hahahahah
bah, simulations of economic activity BAH
ah …. who publishes them?
why do lefties always assume that if you import workers they are “cheap labor” ??
US^Male: because they depress wages
the people we import at my workplace are paid very well jhicks no not always
http://start.rcn.com/video/index.php?roo_clipID=90934&roo_channel=Movie+Trailers
my Databases show that the South American Countries would literally go broke !
Well, maybe not always
good movie
what should wages be?
Gee — I do not know who publishes them
US^Male: because the left is racist like that
for the love of god TimothyT’s database say so
And China will laugh and make them commies
jhicksL in cases where there is a gigantic demand for workers, even when we import them there aren’t enough
Enough to buy a nice fishing boat
ah … I knew it had to be something like that
US^Male: supply and demand?
brb … gotta make coffee
US^Male: pay more and you’ll have plenty
IamKing I think that may be part of it
More workers, no matter where they’re from, decrease wages.
astrodog i dunno, im a corporate executive
and also it would instantly make Australia and New Zealand and Ireland and British broke !
dude if we paid any MORE nobody could afford drugs
i always have a job i enslave the masses for me
OcDoc — More say it aint so: Richard Perle and other conservatives who pushed for the invasion of Iraq now say they would not have supported a war if they knew how poorly the Bush administration would handle it,
US^Male: I’d be willing to bet cutting that CEO’s $200 gillion dollar bonus would cover it
see i live here:
there aren’t that many CEO’s that’s a drop in the bucket for research cost
http://www.corcoran.com/property/listing.aspx?Region=NYC&ListingID=853251
NeoCons turn on Bush
now if you want to buy it thats fine
US^Male: i don’t believe that the big bucks in research are paid to scientists
in fact there’s only one CEO but let’s say, people with giant multi-million bonuses
i only want moola
If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
thats my life
Indie-cons! Transform and roll out!
live richly
Kenneth Adelman, who served on the Defense Policy Board with Perle, said President George W. Bush, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and others in the administration “turned out to be among the most incompetent teams in the post-war era. Not only did each of them, individually, have enormous flaws, but together they were deadly, dysfunctional.”
and enslave the masses for me
Good point. there are times when we do import labor and pay them highly. but this is the rare case of individuals who have specific skills and knowledge (like operation paper clip after WWII). Generally, though, imported labor is done for saving money in wages.
US^Male: gas chromatographs, etc are expensive
it isn’t, it goes mostly to equipment and secondly scientists
right
GC’s are cheap compared to the other shit we buy
and it’s a large gap between the two expenses yeah
even in italy by mount vasuvio sp
just an example
but we cannot do our work without those items
they showed the rich vs poor
right
as they unearthed the volcanic community
buy a nice new solid-state NMR, you;re talking real money
AAAman HAHA, I love that Vanity Fair op/ed. “As Iraq slips further into chaos, the war’s neoconservative boosters have turned sharply on the Bush administratio” — thats how far I got
(it was buried under volcano and excavateD)
i simply don’t believe undermining american scientists is a fruitful pursuit
go to Google Earth and type Manhatten, NY and look at the Businesses with Thomas in the name !
in the old days i would have owned that beautiful home that was like my 59 million dollar home now
jhicks and then there is the consumables — chromatography columns, for one *there are
I’d be there all day!
Nasty NeoCons turn on Bush
Manhatten?
AAAman I love how you are running around using a laughable op/ed as fact
US^Male: exactly
there’s no undermining that I have seen, we are all in high demand
just do it
bud`– You have it wrong — I am just quoting the NeoCons, and that is a fact
US^Male, what would you rather do? Build the chromatograph, operate the chromatograph, or use the information generated by the chromatograph?
80% of my previous company was laid off, & I don’t know anyone who cannot find a job BleuJeans #1 & #3 are your best for future growth
US^Male: that’s in your career spectrum, it takes all types to make the wheels turn
bud — These are quotes
US^Male, true. the technician who operates it us usually on the bottom of the totem pole.
but “operate” is something which is not the same every day, you actually also have to develop methods
5 04/11/2006
Learn how to spell its Manhattan but alas you don’t live in the area
and computers cannot yet do good method development, it takes a human mind to evaluate whatever you come up with
You are a redneck though so it doesn’t matter
US^Male, I like #3 - it’s the use of equipment to answer technical issues and support industry in product design, tesify to causes in court, or do basic science researchy. (can’t type today, sorry)
at least i am a blueblood
true, the use of a GCMS is high art at times. lol Gog123, you are the first they go for during the revolution!
Anyone ever use that liquid nails adhesive?
Yeah.
astrodog is it worth a damn?
Works great. Just follow the instructions.
yes, and no it is not worth anything lolol
Its not epoxy, certainly. But as far as “Glue in a tube” goes, its good.
BleuJeans well #3 is the best for senoir scientists, or for middle management, but you also have to understand #2 solidly, in order to advise people who are still getting more experience *senior
we have safe security in manhattan,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, battery park city was the unsafe area, us bluebloods were always protected always
well I need to add some shelves to some cabinets (wood) and was thinking of trying to use it to glue the sheving and the shelf suppots in place
I wouldn’t use an adhesive for supports.
they will fall in a couple months
hm, k
GCMS is a fine tool, LCMS seems to be much more in demand these days
it is not nails
depending on your industry
Unless it was epoxy, and even then, only to a structural part of the house. bUnless it was epoxy, and even then, only to a structural part of the house./b
It can be, in a sense.
The CEO of CT Communications is not a blueblood he went to wharton too
Good epoxy, and roughing up the 2 areas to be connected is damn close to welding.
north carolina has its nice parts but also has a shitload of rednecks
“In Israel, free men and women are every day demonstrating the power of courage and faith. Back in 1948 when Israel was founded, pundits claimed the new country could never survive. Today, no one questions that. Israel is a land of stability and democracy in a region of tyranny and unrest. “
allright, well back to plan A then I’ll just cut some 1×1 and screw tem into place to set the shelf on
north carolina is more than 50% redneck
Gog123 it is hugely taxed here too
If you’re attaching it directly to the joists, I’d do nails and epoxy.
astrodog the cabinets are already in place, I’ll just be adding some slats for shelving
kobushi where are you, NC as well?
Gog123 yeah Greenville
Im in NYC now
BRIGHTON - Police are investigating a female teacher at Brighton Charter High School accused of sexually assaulting a 17-year-old male student. uBRIGHTON - Police are investigating a female teacher at Brighton Charter High School accused of sexually assaulting a 17-year-old male student./u
My vote would be epoxy, and dowels, then. Pretty easy to remove if you need to adjust them.
was pretending to be a rich aristocrat
where were all these teachers when i was a horny teen
lol The high life in manhattan is only 59 mil tho
bud` moslesting the attractive kids
most expensive property now for sale
Sexual Assault might be “Sodomized with a flashlight” ya know.
=( !
upper east side
astrodog bud` is okay with flashlights so long as he gets a reach arund
hm
I would kill for a 1 bedroom condo in a nice building in manhattan
FoxNews refered to the “Army Times” as a “military newspaper” as well
fauxnews
Gog123 NY is okay to visit, I don’t think I’d want to live there though
kobushi if you like greenville north carolina then you wouldnt
Gog123 but on the other hand there are SO many people, that running a small businss seems like it’d be fairly easy
Heh.
“Army Times” is published by Gannett
Army/Navy/Whatever Times have military reports. *reporters.
you all do realize that “faux” is not pronounced “fox” but rather is pronounced “foe”
Gog123 eh, greenville is okay, it’s a college party tow so lots of scantily clad 18-24 y/os
small businesses are cool - the can be fast on their feet and get things done quickly that big businesses can never do.
fawks hehe
tow-town
If I was a liberal constantly on the wrong side of all intelligent debate, I’d whine about Fox News like I had a load in my diaper also
Ahhh. That explains it.
Gog123 the thing I didn’t like about NYC was the rampant filth everywhere… even in manhattan
Cheney didn’t say “Fuck you.” He said
kobushi a mansion in greenville is only 500k
OcDoc. I am !
“Focks ‘ews.”
Faux news, reducks
you are what?
he said please pass the grey poupon
I caught a reporter spelling it ‘boocoo’
now take an area like:
Gog123 ever 10″ there was a piece of trash when I visited there evety
since cnn is now openly biased, i’m proud to watch fox news
bleh, you know hat I ment
well, poop on you too!
4400 square feet
Been to Chicago?
huge, 490k price is relative
astrodog no
Same cool stuff as NY…. much less trash.
The Onion has the best news.
I know how to pronounce PHO… OR Faux Or Foe
the Onion isn’t news, it’s parody. but that’s okay, it’s still good.
Pho is good food FreeTimer
hehe
the NYT could be considered mostly parody as well! =P
Faux Food? Get that at McD’s
I am a cosmopolitan kind of guy
trash? kobushi which part did you go to ?
except I can’t always determine what kind of meat that is…
obviously you didnt go to the upper east side
‘tastes like chicken’
McD’s? easy. worm
Gog123 I walked all over manhattan
kobushi some areas of manhattan like hell’s kitchen are like trash
ground worms mmmm
Actually sometimes I dont know how to prounce some words which I use often in reading and writing but dont speak to many people about. but most words I know how to pronounce.
Heh I just seen a guy on tv saying the Iranian n North Korean UN ambassadors were spotted having dinner together in new york
I would have expected jhicks to say, “tastes like cat”
hehe
Since when are modern highrises or elegant townhomes trash?
meow
You obviously didnt go by those
Gog123 I did Gog123 litter everywhere
Central park area is gorgeous
Everything that’s in NY, that’s worth going to more than once, has an equivelent thing, that’s equal or better in Chicago. bEverything that’s in NY, that’s worth going to more than once, has an equivelent thing, that’s equal or better in Chicago./b
There is no litter
Detroit is trashiest
Gog123 I saw it everywhere
kobushi not sure where you went, i dont see any litter when i walk very rarely
detroit is beautiful, and the people couldnt be nicer
obviously things happen when its windy
New Yorkers are used to it. They don’t even see it anymore.
but its always cleaned up quickly
and the Decepticons will trash Detroit on July 4th!
td`: motown left wewt!
The whole city of NY smells like garbage.
find me a video on youtube where its trashy
Races are almost universally tightening toward Republican. right now. So thats good news for republicans. But it wont be over till the fat lady sings and the lawsuits are settled.
those videos are uploaded all the time
its local trash pick up n everything else
never seen one with trash
some are better than others
astrodog nope it doesnt…………
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,310,000 for New York Trashy
astrodog there are intense fines for stuff like that
Microsoft has started marketing Linux!
no but the subway does smell
you dont wanna know what the NYT/dems have saved for frontpage news on monday/tuesday morning
If a piece of trash winds up on a neighbors yard, you can get fined and they have bigtime
You know I didnt know this Imus guy was a democrat even until this week, I just thought he was a guy on meds.
the regulations are very strict
A interesting character. Because hes strange.
So, it takes state action to keep the people from living in their own filth? Heh.
But I didnt know what his political allegiance was.
Imus is a bafoon
LIke I said I didnt really know him and I still dont.
I find him extremely painful to listen to for some reason. very arrogant
I wondered if he was a comedian or a guy on meds. like I said.
He’s annoying, especially in the morning.
Imus is a brokeback cowboy
Dogs even know to not to shit where they live.
astrodog no, there hardly are issues like that
most of these talk radio hosts are buffoons, left or right. I guess people listen to them as entertainment. I see no other reason.
wow
astrodog thats what happens if something DOES happen tho, they dont stand for it
took long enough to recover from 9/11/01
that goddamn movie ruined it for the cowboys!
BleuJeans Colmes isnt bad
astrodog in some areas ive seen a home with all trash not in manhattan btw
heard about it never seen it dont intend to
where its been neglected and the city never does anything
cowboys swapping spit is not my bag
but in manhattan that would NEVER HAPPEN
lol, I wonder if SweetLeaf goes to the Brokeback Christian church in Colorado Springs ?
what is with colmes’ face?
The city shouldn’t have to.
in manhattan this doesnt happen
I dont usually listen to talk radio though I have in the last week because i have been commuting and hte mainstream radio news was shilling for democrats and it sounded like leftwing radio so I decided rather than call them up as I do from time to time and tell them what is wrong with thier analysis or journalistic style. i.e., the reporter (interviewer) is not supposed to agree with and bring up argyuments in favor of the exper the reporter (interviewer) is not supposed to agree with and bring up argyuments in favor of the expert they are questioning.
But in rural poor areas it does
Colms = Holloween
I think gay cowboys are cute. but that’s just me.
the wealthy areas dont allow it to happen for the most part
Chicago is hardly rural and poor.
I like Dennis Preggar
So I decided to listen to rightwing radio instead of my wasted phone call.
i havent been to chicago, wouldnt know
ger what ever
Top 3 cities in the US are San Diego, Seattle, and Chicago.
top 3 for what?
Boston is #4. Bestestness.
my city was ranked #1 to live in money magazine this year =P
KCBS radio, Very biased, the reporters dont seek objective expert opinion they lead the witness.. Isnt it true Bush is a Moron ? Why yes it is true says professor chomsky of mit. Umm Sorry. Radio station is out of line for a “main stream news station”
lets see what rotten tomatoes says about borat
FreeTimer, but with KCBS radio, you get traffic and weather together, every ten minutes.
Bluejeans, which is the main reason I listen to it.
heh, me to (communte on Nimitz a lot)
yeah dems. attacking farmers.
Results 1 - 10 of about 528,000 for Chicago Trashy — Chicago is less than half as trashy as NY.
If rightwing radio had some other news besides opinion journalism it would be much better.
Madison Sq. Park Explodes, Contaminates Nearby Area Friday, November 3, 2006, by Lockhart
be honest, you were listening to liberal radio
ack
farming is the like the cornerstone of our civilized world
Well I dont usually commute but I have lately and well I am commuting opposite the normal commutes which means my commutes are often at 75 mph bWell I dont usually commute but I have lately and well I am commuting opposite the normal commutes which means my commutes are often at 75 mph/b
there was an explosion at madison sq park?
Results 1 - 10 of about 301,000 for Seattle Trashy — 1/4th as trashy as NY.
But I need to know the weather intimately. I do a lot of work which is weather dependent.
Results 1 - 10 of about 244,000 — 1/5th.
FreeTimer was just doing intelligence
(That was San Diego)
Know thy enemy
Gog, this is the 4th.. Sorry Nice try Funny noone heard about it yesterday when it was supposed to happen
Hmm, sounds interesting FreeTimer. what kind of work is so weather related?
Meterologist.
Real Estate
Bluejeans, Construction.
sewer draining
Pilot.
NEVER show a house on a rainy day!
hm 96% is a pretty good score
It might leak!
FreeTimer, okay, makes sense.
Can’t follow that in Seattle.
Well, I am not showing many houses these days..
true
Lest you never show the house.
But I am getting a lot of business
http://www.legacy.com/augustachronicle/Obituaries.asp?Page=Lifestory&PersonId=19813487
Now I need to simply turn business into money..
gimme a loan man
If I can do that I am ok
hehe
because you’re honest and reliable … you gotta get more “withit”
IRC is a meaningless waste of time.
FreeTimer can use you as a straw boss
woohoo!
yup
OcDoc. well I need to always try to work and big jobs smarter, not harder.. as the saying goes, its a never ending process.
I enjoy talking to you too
hehe
FreeTimer, I wish you success. Getting jobs is the first good step. finishing them and sending invoices is even better (I work as an independent engineer, so contract for my services - know what that’s all about).
true … true
why are you here?
i’m irresponsible
I am a consultant. I don’t take business that doesn’t turn into money. bI am a consultant. I don’t take business that doesn’t turn into money./b
Bluejeans, I require payments weeekly and load my payments on the front end. But I have never not finished a contract
OH NOES! Doogie Houser, MD is GAY!
RVDMiTB, jhicks is the reason that IRC is a meaningless waste of time
never “not” Double negative
We didn’t start the fire
What kind of engineering bluejeans ?
FreeTimer, you sound like one of the good contractors. good work begets more business. true for both of us.
Are you a civil ?
of course doogie howser is gay. how can he not be?
hahah
jhicks, waiting here in Allentown
Blue, I do have an excellent reputation perhaps better than I deserve but I leave it up to the public to rate me.
how can anyone who calls themselves ‘Doogie’ not be gay?
doogie likes it doogie style…
I’m a materials science engineer. (metals, ceramics, failure analysis work, fornesics, etc.)
I think sometimes they exagerate me.. But I do try to do my best work always. Cool
tell me about foil-air bearings high temperature lubricants I want a home turbine
jhicks is looking for the next big sexual lubricant
lol
hi-temp
naw man, this is for lectricity
nowayman
(and heat)
Frugg must be watching fox
alcohol doesn’t work any more?
OcDoc haha
ballwax
internally
doogie goes doggy style
well, alcohol doesn’t work unless you drink it either
all lubrication failures I’ve seen occurred because the lube was contaminated with metal particles left over from manufacturing.
with beefcakes!
that’s what I mean yeah
heh
BleuJeans is a lube EXPERT!
yeah, and foil-air bearings are supposed to get rid of the oiling systems
must be a good receiver
I can’t say that I am surprised by the news…heh
watch out for metal particles in your sex-lube. You think you’ve experienced pain ?? try that out
the other kid on that show is on the sopranos being a thug
a mini-fridge sized powerplant, etc
okay, open competition for the most offensive line referring to sex from a romance novel … my first entry is “she was tired of simply being a receptacle for his lust”
probably to show everyone he aint gay heh
heh
you can use a stock turbocharger impeller
air bearings are used with high precision, high speed applications, like for diamond wafering saws. Not sure how they’d be used for power plants.
“cum dumpster” would have been more offensive
like that but scaled down 60K too big
ruled out as not having come from an actual romance novel
wow, US^Male seems so interested in the mechanics of same-sex relationships. Maybe he should seek out a pastor in a colorado springs church to discuss this.
US^Male doesn’t have any meth
lol
back sorry
same sex ?? LOL
receptacle implies “plugged in”
Thrasher`, what do u say about income tax stuff?
where was same-sex mentioned ?
they are going to show harrigan getting water boarded on fox good stuff
I have no opinion, heh, since I dont pay income tax yet
Blue jeans you ever get into strutural construction failure analysis ?
what happens in the future we find away to use sperm from the whale as energy ?
lol, US^Male. I guess speed reading your stuff with SweetLeaf’s, it crossed over.
okay … got some real world stuff to do now … laterz
Timothy we did that before we discovered oil.
sheeeeesh
Oil Replaces animal fat for fuel and animals for energy. US my man.
wassup FT
Sweet, there are 4 intensities.. he made it through 2 US, Not a lot, races are tightening republican over the weekend.
FreeTimer, um, no really. Once looked at some parts that were part of a safety rail that failed during construction, and ended up letting a welder fall, causing her to become paralized.
It seems a shame to burn oil though, it’s very useful stuff.
FT I cant wait
But its a long ways till its over.
FT I’d pray if I were religous
you can make plastics from oil
And I am not betting on a coupe de grace. US hehe..
god I wish they had thrown a grenade in the hole saddam was in
bluejeans, ack
I’d put ten bucks on the Senate
dont forget to check your SPAM folders for important DNC election messages!
I’d have preferred a bullet in his palace
somehow they all end up there
Thats sucks paralysis. I simply have a spinal injury with pain no paralysis. I am lucky.
FreeTimer, I did a statistical analysis on the fatality rate for excavation and excavators in this country. construction is dangerous work.
pull the pin drop it and he would have been gone like his sons
US, I think the Senate will go republican barring a last minute surprise.
Or even a ricin pellet at a Dodger’s game.
The house if there is an upset at all, it will be that the GOP retained it.
I bet we leave Iraq before sadam is dead
hehe
yeah pretty much
Checked out the rate for NG Drilling Roughnecks?
the grand ole pedophiles
And the funny thing is the fact is the democrats are doing below aveage even if they do take the house in a 6th year race historically..
dems are counting on republicans staying home on tuesday
Unless they have a suprise
It won’t matter much who wins
Jhicks, it certainly will
Taxicabs had a high fatality rate too.
american politics is like a football game played between opposing 48 yard lines
anyone who would be opposed to Republicans losing the House, better go vote
The fundies have nothing but time and Time is what we dont have thanx to leaders like polosi
if pelosi becomes speaker, she will set the agenda for the house
nobody is going to cut spending
no, spending will increase, as will taxes
Someone who was pretty non partisan talked about some failure in foreign policy based on republicans and democrats dictating the the executive branch. His analysis was not of party or who is president but of the congress dictating foreing policy to the executive which he says is very dangerous, it was an interesting interview and i wish I remember the guys name..
Therefore, I vote for Nobody! Nobody 2008! VERY conservative.
If the Dems win the house they cant stop or force anything, but they can obstruct more than they already are and they can endanger our national security by trying to play commander in chief.
iran n nk ambassadors seen havin dinner in ny
I don’t see why Repub turnout would be any lower. I am wondering if it will be higher than 2004
look at how the dems already put a stop to listening in on terrorist phone calls
FISA works
Last week I had to inspect welds in titanium parts used in heart pumps. they needed this righ away since there were patients in hospitals waiting for them. the funny thing is that there were no welds on these. (they had been heat treated, which caused the alloy to recrystalize and erase all evidence of a weld).
Which is exactly what the democratic congress did in vietnam when we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory no matter how you felt initially about the war. Vietnam was not a war we needed. It didnt have any direct national interest it was more a French Problem..
as long as the Repub turnout is high, then whatever happens , happens
But This war is the great satan against the radical murderers.
what would annoy me is if people said they didn’t care, and then of course they DID care later
hah! murder is way up. bad ROI
Bluejheans, ahh you do a lot of small stuff eh ? Like sonogram testing of welds and high tech stuff like that ? Bill.. They havent stopped it. They tried to. Unless I missed some critical news Which is possible
They’d have to repeal the FISA regime, ain’t happening.
FreeTimer,. stuff like that. lots of metallography (polish and etch to look for microstructure), and use of electron microscopes to look at fracture surfaces to see why things broke.
but my understanding is a higher court said it shall go on until a full court ruling is determined. Bluejeans cool, Did you see the program on analysis of the cause of the sinking of the titantic ? The mettalurgy studies they did in recent years ?
i think they’re being allowed to continue until a higher court rules, and newer legislation specifically authorizing it is held up in congress jhicks, that’s just it. the libs have managed to couch the argument such that it is a violation of FISA
BillFrudd, all you need is one federal court judge our of 1000s to agree with you to get a temporary stay or decision on anything..
FISA is good enough.
yes, there is a stay on the decision
A higher court can immediately or later on overturn it or put a stay on the stay as it were.
FreeTimer, we were in Vietnam over 12 years. doesn’t seem like there was any way we could win this civil war between the north and the south; and the ‘domino effect’ was just another lie to the american people to get them to support this war.
The courts usually react based on what they see as the importance of the case.
besides, we listen to stuff all the time, we just can’t use it in court.
FreeTimer, I missed that program on the titanic (damn), but heard it was good. that’s the kind of stuff I do.
In this case because it hasnt materially changed anything the higher courts are not concerned, they can wait for a hearing.
who cares about court? kill ‘em
BleuJeans, this war or Viet Nam?
yeah, due process is such a drag
Had they stopped it and actually stopped the program you would have seen an immediate court review within 24-48 hours
domino effect was Ike’s idea
sure there was a way we could win
I am concerned by the recent arguments reguarding terrorism have started to mimic the “domino effect” red scare nonsense
but the white house put restrictions
I think we should just let undercover operatives use their own judgment to serve as jury, judge and executioner
RVDMiTB, you assume one can “win” a civil war as an outsider.
cnn has been repeating its broken government series over the weekend. if you have not seen it, you might want to look at it. there is a good episode of it on now. they are having a town meeting format show about the war on the middle class
Bluejeans, it was good, the problem was the metal uses in the rivets the proper mix or whatever you call it was not up to the specifications. I dont know if its iron to other materials or what exactly it is. but it was inferior to the written specs.
And I’m concerned for 2 reasons… 1: because it works to undermine legitimate antiterrorism arguments, 2: I’m concerned people will actually buy it and it can be used to excuse nearly anything
why bother with indictments? they’re just a silly waste of time.
FreeTimer afaik it was high sulfur content
KoBushi, I have not seen any correlated arguments, So I dont know where you are getting this. I have heard no such comparisons at all. This is not red vs purple grapes its grapes vs cabbages.
FreeTimer, that will do it. And when steel gets into really cold water, it becomes very brittle. that’s why our Liberty ships cracked in half in the North Seas during WWII. (they were fine in the warmer Pacific)
FreeTimer Glenn Beck is a good example, but a lot of people I’ve heard talking are beginning to mimic those arguments
Two entirely different wars, two entirely different foreign policy concerns, unlike any we have had in our history. We are dealing with the first time with a radical element of a religion (Well we had some dealings in the 60s on, but we are dealing with a minority of religious wackos who have money and power backed by state sponsers of terrorism like Iran and North Korea…
FreeTimer for example, claims such as, Terrorist are not attacking the US right now becuase they are in iraq fighting us, if the US leaves Iraq the terrorists will come here
This is nothing like Vietnam or the Communist Scare which was real btw over 50% of the world was communist at its height. But this is an entirely different type of fight.
“BAGHDAD, Iraq — U.S. and Iraqi forces drastically tightened security across Baghdad on Saturday in advance of the expected guilty verdict against Saddam Hussein, and the Iraqi prime minister said he hoped the ousted dictator will “get what he deserves.”"
BTW today communism is an anachronism which only exists in the most primitive societies like North Korea. China is not communist, I dont care what they say. or claim They are not acting like communists.
“Saddam has been on trial for murder and crimes against humanity and, if convicted, could be sentenced to death by hanging. Violence is already running high, with police finding the bodies of 87 torture victims throughout the capital between 6 a.m. Thursday and 6 p.m. Friday. Across Iraq, at least 16 people were killed or found dead on Saturday.”
