11.29.07
but why would someone who is geographically located where there are no other homosexuals turn out homosexual
mmm good call
the lifestyle is a choice, yes, the sexual preference is not. that’s all i want to clarify
ooooh noooo … not the gay discussion again
they decide whether they want to be in parades and goto gay clubs, but they cannot help the attraction to the same sex
hell, there’s even some gays who have formed groups trying to help themselves become straight
MissLaVey based on what?
attempting to convince themselves they’re straight so they aren’t hated on.
personal opinion?
Every person who is gay at some point wished they weren’t duh
vemo I agree
you REALLY think they CHOOSE to be gay? that they CHOOSE to be discriminated against?
but that does not mean it is congenital
it is extremely unlikely almost to the point of impossible that anyone here is going to change anyone else’s opinion on this question
all my gay friends say that if they could be straight, they would be
MissLaVey .. cite me the evidence that they are born gay. I mean scientific evidence not personal opinion.
psychology isn’t an exact science, so i cannot provide proof
Its all physical attraction
MissLaVey thats because there is none.
What are you attracted to?
there sure is. being gay isn’t some mental disorder.
End of story
hence why it was taken off the list of psychiatric disorders
hormonal imbalances in utero that lead to homosexual behaviour is de facto a congenital developmental condition
and when you refer to psychology you once again go to a state of mind. I said it was a lifestyle choice. You tried to infer it was PHYSCIALLY determined.
okay … just ignore the scientific evidence I cited and go one with the personal opinions
maybe it is .. but there is no evidence that it is. Obviously they would love for there to be .. because then it would make them victims.
i never ignore science
hormonal imbalances in utero that lead to homosexual behaviour is de facto a congenital developmental condition uhormonal imbalances in utero that lead to homosexual behaviour is de facto a congenital developmental condition/u
OcDoc .. there is no gay gene they are not born gay
an imbalance isn’t a gene
it’s not genetic, it is developmental due to hormonal conditions in utero before birth
people have hormonal imbalances at various times in their lives.
they are born with gay tendencies, wired into the development of their brains before birth
I just like guys
OcDoc .. again that is opinion. It is not established fact
the hormonal shifts cause the brains to develop differently
I mean ‘cmon
seriously. 99% of gays would be straight if they could many lie to themselves for years and TRY to be straight, but they can’t fight the urge.
it is scientific evidence
Physical attraction
OcDoc .. there is no scientific evidence to prove that being a homosexual is pre-determined. if there was .. it would be on the front pages.
i’ve heard it on the new before, actually.
I don’t know why, and if I can’t figure it out….you won’t
you can only come up with this general description of being hormonally imbalanced
just as the XX chromosome causes hormonal shifts that make females and the XY gene causes shifts that make males, other hormonal shifts that are non-gene related cause similar developmental changes
OcDoc .. that does not predetermine homosexuality
Its the same reason you like what you like
it WAS on the front pages at the time … various people screamed bloody murder at the time, just as anyone who says that women are different from men in their natural abilities is shouted down and destroyed politically
if you don’t think it’s in the persons nature to be gay, why do you think they “decide” to be gay then? for discrimination purposes?
I was gay before puberty I knew I was If that helps
anyone who wants to get funded to do scientific research on this subject is black-balled and thrown out of the scientific research community
really OcDoc?
really, newit
OcDoc .. that is a cop out
why is that because they don’t want to find out?
there have been studies
you don’t have to believe me
but they have all been on adult males
because they believe it’s socially indoctrinated?
so the hormonal imbalance could be cause by behaviour
because science is funded by government these days and has become politicized
you mean in the us in particular?
yes
lol .. anything to do with homosexuality is immediately given preferance these days because it is politically correct to do so
in america CometBaby?
yes
I did not say they HAVE a hormonal imbalance … I said that hormonal shifts DURING pregnancy caused by overcrowding in the cages leads to homosexual behaviour after birth
really
certain other countries are still too homphobic to even want to conduct such studies
Screw you, I’m putting on a Queen record 
hehe
everyone is automatically supposed to believe all these half baked theories because they are politically correct
you won’t see india putting out research about homoseuxlaity
wow i thought the us would be behind on this sort of thing
when you show me the proof .. then I will change my mind. but up until then I am not going to join the rest of the crowd and *pretend* it is true because YOU think it is.
so what is the division? whether it is genetically isolatable or not?
there is no evidence that homosexual preferences is genetic
or this hormonal theory?
newit thats all it is a theory
there is scientific evidence that it is congenital due to hormones during pregnancy
that sounds an odd theory if you don’t mind me saying
they did find that males born into families with multiple other male children are *seemingly* more prone to homosexuality
it’s not a theory
i would have thought it might be genetic
but everyone wants you to accept that it is genetic because it is politically correct to do so. We are all supposed to pretend it despite the fact that there is no evidence to support it
that doesn’t tell us why though
i know
it might be but I know of no scientific evidence in humans or in mammals that it is genetic
MissLaVey if you are suggesting it runs in families than that, imo, would be evidence it is more nuture than nature.
but is that because it is hard to get funding for that kind of research?
nurture
or that kind of research isn’t popular? or plausible?
I doubt it
newit it is politically correct so no, it is easy
i didn’t say it runs in families, because that suggests it’s genetic
I think it is because there is no evidence to suggest that it is genetic worth pursuing further
MissLaVey it also suggests it is NURTURE
so they could get the funding but there is no evidence to date?
what i was saying was actually the opposite. i’m just stating something i heard in the news
I think it has to do with upbringing
that’s social then
some research has been done and it did not suggest further research
I think it is learned, but internally learned.
because it was inconclusive or was the research limited?
I mean, its deep
but the nature/nurture argument is stil a rough one. if you’ve ever taken a philosophy class or even read up on your own a bit, you’d see why
that’s the way science works … you find evidence and design new studies to develop the evidence … if you find no leads, it’s a dead end and you don’t try to go further
i don’t know if i believe people can always say it is a learnt behaviour
Cool the new firefox has spell checking for data entry into text fields I need that !!!
yes rond is it good
I refuse to be cowed into agreeing that homosexuals are BORN that way just because it is politically correct to do so
so CometBaby what is your position? that is it socially learned behaviour?
then why bash people for being racist, when being racist isn’t politically correct?
and I agree that that would not be a good basis for deciding
she doesn’t even believe it’s learned she thinks they decide to be gay on their own
it’s a decision…
hence her use of the word “lifestyle”
MissLaVey .. people ARE born of a specific race. It is not a lifestyle choice. Thats why !!!! good gawd woman
you smell much better now
thanks!
don’t call me “woman”, it’s demeaning.
also, got the laundry done and made breakfast
but why would someone who is geographically located where there are no other homosexuals turn out homosexual? just to make life challenging?
lol can woman be demeaning to a woman ???? er how can
yes rond
sure
that’s what i was sayingto CometBaby
now, if you can just refrain from making silly statements about gays, we’ll move right along
they don’t litter much, but ok
WHY would they choose to be discriminated against?
lol timur
i mean if you lived in a “red state” would you chose to be gay?
MissLaVey .. I did not say that. I said that being gay was a lifestyle choice. I have disagreed that they were BORN gay. I also said that if it changes, and evidence does appear that they are born gay, I will change my opinion.
i’m glad that you aren’t close-minded on the subject it is difficult
I never said that they WANTED to be gay. I believe that something happens in the process of growing up that leads them to become gay.
evidence has appeared which I cited … you don’t believe that evidence
perhaps they are molested
but i tended to think it was a genetic thing possibly
i’ve had too many gay friends to EVER believe it’s a “lifestyle choice”
CometBaby molested please!
is littering genetic!?
no, learned
or perhaps they are attracted to other males at an early age and come to decide they prefer males.
OcDoc, what research are you referring to?
maybe they are afraid of women I don’t know but they are not born gay
scroll up
you don’t know but you seem to make some rather bold assertions
i think it’s a hormonal change alright, but post-natal
i don’t know many gay men who hate or are afraid of women my best friend chris dated females because he TRIED being straight. he realied he couldn’t lie to himself anymore he’s from a perfectly normal family. never molested or abused
then why do gay ppl not litter much!
MissLaVey .. he prefers males. Dating females is not going to change that.
mom as miss ohio at some point. he comes from a GREAT family
keep it up
I do and will !
thanks, sherlock as i was saying
MissLaVey do not cite one case to me and expect me to be convinced on that basis that he was born gay. lol
but the point is he is not scared of females
did you just do a head-bobble?
isn’t that what she was trying to say
and/or a finger snap
he’s not scared of females. he was never molested. he doesn’t want the discrimination
you’re assuming a) he would tell you if he was molested, it doesnt have to be by a family member, could have been by a perfect stranger, or someone else b) that he even consciously remembers if it did occur or not.. many victims of abuse simply do not recall.. its defense mechanism
does he have gay freinds?
anymore theories on why people are gay, CometBaby?
newit .. are you saying that because he was not afraid of females no gays are?
now he does
no that seemed to be what you were claiming
and how do you know he was not afraid of females? Because MissLaVey said so?
how do we know anything then?
Do you believe everything she says?
well, newit doesn’t know the guy
do you realize how much complexity you have to speculate about in order to explain this?
but gay men tend to have more female friends than male friends since women love gay men.
that seems to be true
or, most women. CometBaby not included.
lol
I do, it doesn’t appear others have quite grasped it.. either way, speculation is all it is
the real reason, as with everything, is Alients. From space.
I blame Bush
MissLaVey doesn’t know anything more about this guy than what she has obseved when she was around him, and what he chose to tell her. Christ people. Some women are married to a man for 50 years and find out he is gay.
I have a problem with gay people with lisps
he would have a lot more issues had he been molested. i know for a fact he wasnt
with a capital b?
that’s just silly … I prefer the company of women to the company of men and I help my wife with interior design and colors and I’ve never even been tempted sexually by my male friends
You don’t know everything there is to know about a person
I don’t understand the lisp
You cannot know for a fact he wasn’t
so you’re get OcDoc!
its impossible
;p
i DO know for a fact he wasnt just like how people in my life know for a fact i wasn’t either.
i would fall back on my post-structuralist roots and say that it is impossible to essentialise about these things
no, you don’t, you have not been with him every moment of his life
MissLaVey just keep repeating it .. it only shows how unreasonable you are being.
I’ll wear lipstick and a dress before I start talking differently than I do
well this doesn’t seem to be getting anyone anywhere
okay. you keep your theories that men are gay because they were molested and are afraid of women, i will stick with science and personal experience.
I blame bush too
thanks for the basic points
Fuck bush
it never does
i’ll leave you to your diatribes
errr
heh
theories on why people are gay - a skewed genetic disorder that causes people to be sexually attracted (a procreative urge) to the same sex (a non procreative possibility), hormonal imbalance did not fully imprint gender specific manifestations in the brain, amoral upbringing or key timing of sexual exposure creates a nontraditional personal preference…or a combination there of
sorry…that got me kicked last time
nevertheless, it is simply not true that “there is no scientific evidence”
MissLaVey .. I suggested those reasons as possibilities. I didn’t claim they were THE reasons. You are the one who is in here trying to state opinion as fact. “I know for a fact he was never molested” .. if you had a brain you would be dangerous
heh
and do you have any evidence for YOUR claims?
no nobody can have any evidence
I suggested them as possibilities
a succinct and timely summary … thanks
not epistemologically speaking
i know for a fact my best friend wasn’t molested, YOU’RE ING TO ARGUE THAT HE WAS?
all claims are null and void
I never stated them as facts
I have evidence of Alients. But the Area 51 is not accessible!!
unlike you
are you going to accuse me of having been molested, also?
there IS scientific evidence … sheesh
they still need a sarcasm meter on irc….*arched eybrow*
Timur what is an alients?
you cannot know for a fact he has not been molested you simply cannot
MissLaVey .. you idiot .. I don’t know. And neither do you.
to state otherwise, is foolish
are you gay?
i don’t know myself?
nah OcDoc i know what you are saying
naw, we’d all be watching the meter instead of arguing
i was rebutting CometBaby’s comments
i’m very much straight
that you can’t know the truth about whether MissLaVey’s friend was molested
OcDoc that evidence does not prove anything.
you can NEVEr know
oh I forgot one…that the person may not be gay, they have wrongly expressed genitalia…woot
alients are from space and they run thngs
Why?
not the bilgerboogers
not even MissLaVey’s psychiatrist would ever know
the tests that have been done were on adult males
sigh … no, there is no proof of anything this side of the grave … I know
because it is repressed in his unconscious
you’re all naive and are believing anythng!!
and he will never come to terms with it
bilgerboogers … heh, I like that
i don’t have a psychiatrist. thanks for the jab
watch xfiles
I know its a stupid question. But it would be the same asking me….I’m making a point at your expense
the truth is out there!
nah, your friend MissLaVey with mulder
the fact that they had less testosterone could have resulted from the fact that they had been mentally living as females for a while and physical changes had taken place as a result.
he sucks
so they prove nothing except that there was a hormonal imbalance not why there was
Why are you straight?
MissLavey is Scully!?
or hetero
and i’m the smoking man
VemoD .. lifestyle choice lol
so you can be gay if you wanted then, CometBaby?
sure
come one CometBaby
obviously
leave your husband
why aren’t you gay?
and join the lesbian team
the crowding in the cages caused the hormonal shift in the mother rats which led to a developmental difference in the offspring’s ratty brains which led to homosexual behaviour … QED
BITCH FIGHT!!!
interesting study
newit .. okay .. seriously then
tonight?
Obviously she likes things the old fashioned way
hahah sorry gals
rond?
studies have shown that there is a small part of the brain
its gonna take more than one study, not to mention one that can actually be repeated with the same results
ancient greece is pretty old fashioned
all people called rond are rude
that is scientific evidence that homosexual preferences can be congenital
no it isnt
i think it is the hypotalus or something like that
not unless it can be repeated
was plato gay because socrates was?
with similar results
where the diff btw male and female is evident
hypothalamus?
well, gay in essence if not in being. jnk
that IS scientific fact kalo . yeah
did YOU KNOW
it does not irrefutably prove that human male homosexuals’ sexual preferences are congenital …
that is not conjecture
CAPS WILL GET YOU BANNED?
OcDoc it does mean we are not born a clean slate and become male or female
no, and it doesnt even prove it in mice.. unless it can be reproduced with the same results
i never met plato
that in Indonesia, there are words for people ascribing 4 genders, not just 2; the obvious male and female, but then also womanish men and mannish women
science has proven homosexuality to occur all over the animal kingdom, also
so does that mean i can’t be sure if he was gay?
it’s not just amongst humans
that’s obvious MissLaVey
sorry, I didn’t understand that last post
even CometBaby should know that
i guess those animals were molested.
lol!!!!!!
newit and what does that prove?
more like manipulated
off topic (sorta) I’ve wondered why a preponderence of gay people are attracted to those who are same sex but are very much like the opposite sex….visually….sounds like it might be very much a social/emotional thing…t
as a scientist I am VERY familiar with the scientific method
and yes, their mothers were manipulated
it proves the same thing with animals that it does with human .. some are gay and some are not. it does not mean they are BORN gay.
good, so dont take advantage of the laymen in here with claims of one test being scientific proof
sounds like ambivalence to me
http://www.insideindonesia.org/edit66/bissu2.htm
so animals become gay through language?
newit .. you tell me
what about in prison?
*shrug*
personally, I think homosexual rats made a lifestyle choice
its your stupid suggestion .. so YOU back it up
are people gay in prison because of society?
define homosexuality in rats
if they are in prison then they committed a crime I suppse
that’s temporary homosexuality
people are act gay in prison because they want to ejaculate and the only other flesh around is same sex
go climb a try
so the crime made them gay CometBaby?
tree
i better not commit any crimes
secondly, prove rats are even aware of their own existence, let alone making a choice of sexual preference
newit .. they perform gay sex because there are not women to have sex with
i’m gonna keep calling you out on your BS so thanks for the offer, but i’ll stay right here
I do not conduct scientific research on sexual preferences … if you’re interested, YOU go do that research
what if they were born gay and they offend to find more partners
I’m simply citing the scientific evidence that someone asked for and then dismissed
actually some men become bisexual while they are in prison
true
they don’t necessarily become homosexual
i’m not interested.. what I am interested in you ceasing to call some yet to be linked study about rats and sexual preference as scientific proof of human homosexuality
so your thesis has a flaw
no
anyone ever read the kinsey report?
it was a joke not a thesis i’m a deconstructionist so i don’t think that there are binary oppositions
you presented it as a question .. not a joke
how kind of you … first of all I do not engage in BS without putting smiley face icons adjacent in order to warn you
like the ones you are referring to
thanks for the warning
if there are genetic tendencies and potentials, not all those must be realized; context, i.e. setting/environment also must play a role.
so genetics and environment! revolutionary! two factors
and secondly, you need not “call me out” on evidence that I’m citing … I do not believe that I have exaggerated the importance of the evidence I cited in any way to confuse the issue
instead of just one!
there emoticons not icons
newit .. genetics is not proven
fordnut: I do not conduct scientific research on sexual preferences
okay well at least the possibility of both
I do not accept the genetics
CometBaby is the world flat too? did i sail over the edge?
newit is there a man on the moon?
that’s not what I heard
lol
jk
she WILL NOT accept genetics.
what does any of that have to do with this convo? are you all out of ideas?
all of the questions you raised were valid and perhaps some scientific researcher will follow up on your suggestions
that you are narrow-minded
I like ice cream, but not alients!
even if there was the big break through study that she wants to see, she’d probably still call bullshit
and that you can’t accept ideas outside your own paradigm that may in the future be discovered or proven
newit .. no .. it means that I am not willing to be cowed into accept a position I do not believe in. That takes courage.
who is crowding you to do anything? you make up your own mind don’t you
I hope so, I would like to see more verifiable evidence of the causes of homosexual behavior myself
so fuck you nitwit .. or newit
or are we socialising you into believing things you don’t believe wow that is 1st class rhetoric at work
he didn’t call you a name
charming
yes he did.
do not resort to liberal tactics such as name calling
what did i call you?
skirts are better than jeans. DON’T YOU THINK
i’m sorry?
he called me narrow minded because I would not agree that gays are born gay
damned rain woke me up
liberals killed jesus
‘liberal’ tactics such as name calling? lol
narrow minded is now name calling?
so fuck you nitwit
for now, all I’m attempting to accomplish in this discussion is to correct the notion that is frequently repeated incorrectly, that there is “NO” scientific evidence
zing!
cometbaby you are fucked in the head
3 newit devoiced for lameness
sigh
I wish the rain had awakened me
glad to be back? haha
newit was here on an open proxy .. he’ll be back soon on another one
I suppose it comes down to what one’s definition of evidence is.. sometimes the terms of the debate need to be clarified i guess
well, no one is talking about the impending invasion of alients.
heya MLV where were you hiding??
or ice cream.
omg did you guys hear bush the other day? he rocked, i’m so totally stoked to stay the course in iraq
i hide when certain people are around dehuman be nice
well, saying you don’t believe the evidence, or that it is inconclusive is not the same thing as saying there is no evidence
I miss something here??
rofl you’re “stoked” alright
yeah, perhaps
tsk tsk
ops!
Comet Cleanser moments are occuring
I wanna change topic are you saying Comet is abrasive?!
Timur wants to discuss why gays don’t litter
wish we had ops more often this early in the morning….this place needs a conintual house cleaning at this hour
wow … I think I might be able to go back to sleep now thanks for lulling me back to sleep, guys and dollz
I am only present because we are getting Noahs flood rains…or it sounds like we are
get the boat out
Timur…nay…she is of the non abrasive variety SoftComet
GAY NIGGERS
Racist or foul Language or Spam
no ALIENTS
but it still contains Laminol
CryWolf!
okay … laterz
FordyNut
snore … zzzz
mornin’
heh I need more sleep…lets see if rain will let up
so how many times is everyone planning on voting in the election next month?
gop
i figure i’ll vote 3 maybe 4 times
already voted 6
debold?
absentee ballot(s)
I will vote once
actually my parents are elderly so I fill them out the way I want them
(dirty hippie)
and I will have harsh words for any political shitslingers that call
good
I’m voting “no” on the gay thing……in Wisconsin
no gays?
I dunno, look it up if your interested
Jim Webb, Dem. candidate in VA: Among the excerpts is a scene from the 2002 novelby Webb “Lost Soldiers,” in which a man embraces his four-year-old son and places the boy’s penis in his mouth. “It’s not a sexual act,” Webb says. and we are supposed to believe that?
it’s consensual isn’t it
of course, Dems don’t lie
is it important, tho? I mean, 400,000 dead in Darfur, per the UN
not really
timur was he cleansing it?
Vemo….they have a gay marriage proposition in WI?
now, that’s an issue, to me
Otherwise I really don’t care. They are all slimy politicians
with his tongue apparently
could be, I’m not all that familiar with SE Asian hygeinic custom..
Darfur is a genocidal pesthole..
lol
of course no sanctions against Soudan
Timur so you are willing to consider that as a possibility?
and no one’s doing squat about it
rather than the obivious? obvious
no one will
I dunno, but I don’t really care..
there’s not enough oil or guns involved
Sudan (no o)
*nod* Its not about marriage, its getting to that point though
there’s oil in Sudan, williams
i know there is in sudan, sorry
the Chinese are hugely involved in developing the fields
oh i didn’t know it was the chinese though
that’s one reason no one’s doing much to prevent the genocide
ah, i feel ignorant now
good, that’s the first step towards wisdom.
ahh good ol’ political expedience
you smartass tim
it’s true tho! well, think I’ll finish my breakfast. brb!
i know
China has its fingers in a lot of pies
apple pies?
metaphorically? or like american pie?
metaphorically
oh that wasn’t a finger
wassup 3joebobs
not much, just doing my usual morning online chores
I think I will continue my interrupted sleep later
bye
sure cry leave when i get here
Once gayness is accepted in every state, christianity will fall, and the nations’ belief system will fall, and then we will have to think I like that idea I’m proud to be gay, partially because I feel like the anti-christ sometimes…. — always wanted to be a hedon I get to rant now Only from destruction can there come change Change is inevitible, therefore destruction is inevitible If you live in the material world, you are sure to be disappointed Because shit will never go your way Because it is not about the You in the US Its about everything That is the difference between politics and spirituality The chipmunk is as important as your baby
yay for gay people
gay for yay people
booyakasha! ^_^
I went on a date with a gay guy once, by accident
did you not know he was a he or did he not know you were a she?
I knew it was a he obviously I didn’t know it was a ‘date’ kinda thing lol I was studying with him, he was in a class of mine and he’s like let’s go get some food and he takes me to a nice italian restaurant and pays for everything I was like okkk weird
food hey, well he should have known you wanted sex
yeah I was disapointed
so what happened afterwards? did you go for a drink or did you invite him up for “coffee”?
I was like umm we should go back to studying.. at the library
sounds normal so far…
not really cuz he was gay he was like at the half out of hte closet stage
ah you didn’t mention that part before
o
good morning people and animals 
who’s an animal?
I’m not a homophobe or anything, I just thought it was kinda weird at the time
because he bought you dinner?
yeah that and he was always talking about how he should be gay instead of straight
did you ever buy him dinner?
nope
you’re rude!
I know
maybe he just thought you’d treat him next time
I don’t think that was it lol
well you can buy dinner for me to make up for it
ok are you gay?
and then we won’t have sex either ;p no
homophobe is an anti-hetrosexual term used to cower hetrosexuals from expressing their disdain for homsexuality
i just think you’re rude
I know I was in hindsight I should have taken him out to dinner another time
so where are we going for dinner? i know this lovely italian place?
Its more rude to take someone to dinner expecting a returned favor
but that would have been the 2nd date
rond you’re an idiot shut up
rond is right.
as well as being an idiot?
yeah I think it’s kinda true what rond is saying
No its totally true
williams`: Am I an idiot too?
okay i’ll put it this way, all people call rond are idiots no MrRod i think you are perfectly respectable
but at the time I was kinda weirded out realizing I was hanging out with a gay guy and going on something that seemed like a date, but now I wouldn’t care
Its pretty immature to give gifts expecting something in return
i think rond is a biggot that’s how society works sometimes i buy this round of drinks
only in kiddie land
you buy the next don’t you buy the next round you’re a cheapskate!
If he knew you weren’t gay then it was just to guys having dinner.
I think he was trying to figure it out
Just don’t slip and call him “honey” and it’ll be fine.
so you were his personal experiment
lol
and don’t pinch his ass
like I said, he was in the process of coming out I think cuz he was always saying stuff like “Maybe I should be gay”
well he was probably just confused or trying to sort himself out
yeah
One mistake like calling him “honey” and before you know it you’ll be in the men’s room wondering why your butt hurts.
nothin wrong with that wow bad timing
no so what’s the problem
I hope no one screen shots that :-p
you got a free meal from a confused guy
yep no problem at all
eifer: One mistake like calling him “honey” and before you know it you’ll be in the men’s room wondering why your butt hurts. nothin wrong with that
you still should have given him a food coupon or something
Yeah, that’s a keeper.
at least a drink eifer
lol yeah that’s a good one I feel like if I keep talking on this subject I’m gonna get kicked from the room
Heck, I’d put that one in the topic but it’s too long.
no there’s nothing wrong
and he takes me to a nice italian restaurant and pays for everything
Nah, you won’t get kicked out.
Sounds like a nice person
except you still owe me a meal
yeah he was a cool guy actually
How was the food?
really good
what did you have?
some spicy calamari stuff taht was a long time ago tho lol 4 yrs ago prolly
and did you drink wine with your meal?
nope
did he try and get you drunk?
you guys are really interested in my date
we’re bored ;p and i want to test your memory
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Did you take pictures?
I just had coke or something
to see if you remember the guy whose heart you broke
no I didn’t take pictures and he was a chinese guy
did you ever speak to him again?
I’m interested because I like Italian food
me too
actually I stopped hanging out with him after that semester cuz at the time I was kinda homophobic maybe but now I don’t care
really?
I’d never really known any gay people
what changed your mind and why were you in the first place? just inexperience?
yea
racist
eh, nobody’s perfect
I take lots of straight people to eat, and get invited to eat by lots of straight people
it’s not that I didn’t like him cuz he was gay
suppose you don’t like black/hispanic/lesbians either
freaking news media people are flamming idiots. the anchor on abc’s good moring show keeps calling marlin brando the real godfather. what an idiot. brando played a godfather. brando was not the real godfather
Its all about the food at that point ~~
yes he was, but we just don’t talk about it
I think the presumption is that the audience knows the difference between movies and reality.
williams, wtf are you talking about lol
or you’ll be sleeping with the fishes just trying to make people laugh it’s what i do
gotcha
right tim ;p
Are you actually in Japan?
yeah Fukuoka city
I love Japan
are you teaching english?
it’s in Kyushu nah I’m a student international business major
nice!
Are they still freaking out about North Korea having nukes and missiles that can nail Japan?
no one was freaking out here really
are you worried about godzilla?
people are pretty apathetic
he’s radioactive too you know
zomg godzilla
After what the Japanese did in Korea, maybe the Japanese should be freaking out. Koreans don’t forget history.
I was a student in the Fukoaka area….have you been to Abukuma Dou?
nope, what’s that?
godzilla? he’s a huge monster
abukuma dou you newb
Its a cave
ah, no I haven’t I pretty much just stay in the city
Kouriyama?
well he’ll decimate tokyo you should stay clear of there
Thats a city
yea I’m not familiar with it I’ve just been to fukuoka and kyoto
williams`: Godzilla isn’t real.
where in fukuoka where you vermod?
williams`: You should be worried about King Kong. He’s real.
You gotta go to Abukuma Dou. I stayed in Miharu….its a small farm town
ah ok
why is he real?
I’ll check it out sometime
williams`: I saw the movie.
do you know seinan gakuin daigaku?
has kim jong ill been working on it as a secret project? after the typodong’s fail
don’t know that school
o ok
Kim Jong Il will come around and stop his nuclear program as soon as the embargo cuts into his hair gel supply.
dude I wanna go to pyongyang so effin gbad
Why don’t you go?
too difficult
Why? Can’t get a visa?
I forget, but I think “gakuin” is student and “daigaku” is college
look if they could get that serbian guy his quiff while they were bombing the former yugoslavia they must have a lot of hair gell
gakusei is student daigaku is college gakuin is like institute
daigakusei de nai!
Are you Japanese or a foreign student?
I’m american ryugakusei desu
Can you walk down the street and fit in so the Japanese people don’t know you’re foreign?
lol are you kidding I’m white it’s impossible :-p
Ahh. Hard to fit in, then.
yeah but it’s fine
hi
I fit in to certain groups here
hey
you just gotta get involved in clubs and groups and whatnot
any one here upgrade ubuntu
and then they don’t care where you’re from
How well do you speak Japanese?
ehhh… not too well this is only my 3rd year learning but it’s improving quickly
Or do you rely on the Japanese taking 10+ years of English classes before you arrive.
haha those 10+ years of english don’t really do them much good their english still sucks
Ok. Engrish.
I try not to rely on their english honestly I don’t like it when random japanese people speak english to me I’d rather they speak japanese
From what I gather Japanese people are better are written English because that’s what’s tested on college entrance exams. There isn’t a verbal test so they don’t worry about speaking skills.
