11.29.07

But would you truly throw away an election to Hillary because of mccains relatively small flaws which I too dont

Posted in Politics at 6:51 am by Michael Johnson

odd… I would think tom would chase female

the old femal was here first, she chases him. he runs, as if she is dangerous

My cats are fixed, and are brother and sister. They do incestious cat-sex foreplay.

I would like some egyptian Maus

well 2 inside cats, 3 B cats (B1, B2 B3 - all black) 2 bws BW1 and BW2 (black and white) 1 Snow (white tomcat) 2 YW (LYW and YW (yellow/white one long hair one short) the latter are outdoor

this prof could be a very valuable ally if you can find a job

oh yeah

if I ahve cats…I will keep tehm inside….

I keep mine inside.

too many cat-eating critters in these parts

ever see little kids - like 2 or younger - with cats?

Cats are pretty inexpensive, mostly. But you need a house/apartment where they are permitted.

ke6i-1 yes you do — but I live in the country!!

my next abode will be my own house MY Rules

the tom is a mouser, and he is teaching the old female. she is even bringing in mice now

I found a place that will sell Mau Kittens….

I remember seeing my 2yr old cousin with my dad’s cat. He tried to pick the cat up, and the cat gave him a good scratch

not good idea to have kids that young around cats

“but I just wanted to give the kitty a hug!” he cried. We tried very VERY hard to not laugh

these cats go limp when a youngster picks them up. will wear hats and stay on the blanket for the little one

Yeah I have never had any children around here. Mostly just old people come by. Or middle-aged relatives.

cats look silly in hats

for a long time afterwards, the kid wouldn’t go near the cat

tortus - our indoor cat - one hides!

i was worried aboutthe tom with the 3 yr old, byt he puts his ears back and goes limp

Indoor cats are nice. too dangerous here for outdoor cats. They get run over by cars. So I am 100% indoors only. Only problem is they get really fat when they are in the house.

i could oan you my old female to chase them around

ke6i-1 ahh you need to feed less and give them more to climb and move around

they like cardboard boxes with catnip the best

IRISH!!! hi hihi

hallo Irish

hi kali!!!!! hi cry

irish — how U this crazy Sat night?

good, you?

irish - well I’m as ornery as ever!

good, that makes discussion more interesting

always!

thanks swigert I don’t drink whiskey - how about a shot? or two, or three

ehh got some whiskey sour if ya want — or welllll - got this 151 rum - dark — aged wellllll 15 yrs now…

I thought all Irish drank Whiskey like water

I don’t drink at all anymore

Irish — how about a shot of drambuie to start

haha swigert

CRY — I want my music box –

thank you cry your recipe?

the kickapoo I sent her will do her fine Kali…still looking…. the pickings are not good..or people bid them up too high

Cry - well just pick something –anything — my b’day was last JULY… something simple will be fine!

ok Kaliuna I will do me best

I got Finns on my mother’s family and they were all heavy boozers. Until they all died of old age or accidents.

by christmas would be nice

my coworker asked for a gift for *my* birthday, i gave him a box of bandaids

I will find you someting mice Kali nice

I started my Christmas shopping this week

he gave me a tin of shoeshine for his

I’ll be back later, k?

irish — ooooooookkkk

heh none of that here…just Cards…..4 of them….

i need to find seashells before christmas for the toddler

Dueling pistols — are always a nice gift for any occasion.

she loves them

and maybe one more for People living here

tortus — well gee — I got seashells

Kali….you like seashells??

what kind?

I get candals for presents. I have to burn them regularly.

Cry — I pick them up from several beaches

That’s cheap

I bought a $60 giftcard from Electronics Boutique for my brother; a book on the Canadian Army in Europe for my Dad, and a set of Audrey Hepburn DVDs for my Mom.

was not aware MO had any LOLOL

i have three seashells. she was fascinated

tortus - welllllll — little ones big ones - all kinds

Shells are all over here

Cry — ahhh - remember I’ve been to almost 90% of caribbean islands tortus — how old is she?

you might be running low…

she is 3

ooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

tortus — ahh get her small ones — go to a fish place - acquarium — stuff - might find a few just right for 3yr old

there you go

good idea

Cry - oh I got two big ones — and I do mean BIG - from Cozemel and — hmm can’t remember where I got other one

i didn’t think of aquarium

tortus — go for it!

watch out for sharp edged ones and not too small either

she likes my big shells, the sound. and i found them, so they aren’t cleaned, they have smaller shells encrusted on the outside

its a good time to go to beach now… in cooler weather

yah.

tortus — well I think at 3 she will be happy with some small shells she can stack, make cute things too

I like sea shells too

tortus they do have a few medium sized ones at many fish shops and maybe a few bigger ones

i want to get her some of those shells used for cooking, clam shaped that open and close

hrmm tortus..I may have some shells she would like

tortus — oh got a bunch of those too –

I have a few jars of them

ill try the aquarium first. they prolly have suitable shells for a 3 yr old

tortus - there ya go — I don’t have JARS of them.. but a few ya… well with all my grands more than a few tortus — cool –

put them in a little treasure chest

I got a plastic pentagon fish tank about 40 gal

Kali…lol I am by the beach…and as such peoples shell collectiosn in thrift stores do not command that much money

tortus — ohhh that sounds great — and add some cute coins — and other things from deep ocean – Cry - I can imagine

good idea. not something she sees on tv

so a jar full od small conch shells or cowries…3-4 bucks

i wish i lived near a beach.

you like coral??

tortus right - or even if she does — they have some great things — little seahorses and a lot of things like that a t fish shops

sand dollar we got a lot o them here

I can scrape up all the sand dollars you ant in june

but the 3 yr old is not interested in dollar value, she is entranced by strange things she loves pine cones too

heh

tortus..how about a piece of coral?

oo yeah. that would be good too

oh ya well I got malibu beach here

I know where some is for sale

where

a thrift store near here

California Los Angeles

i was considering going to sanfrancisco. its 150 miles from here. but maybe an aquarium will be sufficient

tortus yer in Cali now?

go check out the surfers at Mavericks

mkaybe I may run my metal detector down on the beach again SL probaby seeds the inner area with chum before the Sufers arrive…lol

heh I wouldt do that to fellow surfers

it could make for some halla surfing…. a they ride wave in,…a shark is right behind

batman surfed with sharks

darwinistic surfing when Cuba is free…the divers will be all over northern side…

eeeeeeeeek — not just sharks - the stingrays are attacking

I would like to be there to buy some old cars

who wins, the shark or the stingray?

hehe where is that guy hiding… Stingrays and Sharkes usually do not interact

tortus — neither they both lose in the end

yep….they both have to run from hungry humans

stingrays are pretty passive

i would like to see some of the dep water creatures, miles down

like Anglefish? yeah that would be neat

angelfish are deep water?

Anglers are sorry

tortus - seen a few on discovery channel

i guess they arent colorful

deep water fish usually glow to us

wow

that was an idea I had for making money off of people going to Key West….

and have lots o colors

an Underwater train with viewing windows

neat

tortus - no they really aren’t — but wow - size is out of this world.. well not really but youknow what I mean

derailment could be fun

SL don’t you think that would be a hit?

i am deathly afraid of sea creatures

i think the deep sea would be more interesting than outer space.

swiggy — I fear mankind worse than I do any sea creatures — and not really that afraid

war dirary is on

Swigert has prb not been near sea much

I wanna see the first part

lived in NYC - close enough?

tortus — oh I dunno - some of the moons around planets — hmmmmmm very intersting

yuck

NYC …eww the polluted sea

likely the deep sea creatures don’t know to fear humans

Swiggy come down to FL..you would love the beaches here

tortus — probably not

ok…night peeps

byeeeeeeeeeee

CRY — on Sat you leave this early?? ooooook Cry — don’t leave unless we have an OP here

i will be good, i promise

lol tortus — I won’t! we get trolls in here and I’ll bite! tortus — gotta love it — Sat night and all’s well

i pester people here occasionally.

tortus - good! I like to do that too – TT - oh good at least you are here!

tailor *smooch*

TT - we got some trolls just came in — so — ahh do NOT go away — lets see what they do

24 degrees tonight and fog

fog, really

well not that cold here - but kinda weird out — weather cannot make up its mind

that’s cool

yeah. mountain fog

TT - oh you got fog frog?

I was in that icy type fog once In New Mexico is it cold there Kal? We are way down to about 55

TT — freezing temps

it may be 50!

i remember the fog on the coast. lived on the palos verdes peninsula in socal. warm fog is just a barrier to visibility. mountain fog is more ominous.

TT — 34 at moment

-3 here

tortus, yeah but at 24 that’s the ice stuff, it’s kinda strange Where allen ?

yup. vewwy vewwy quiet

cats being a pester

winnipeg, mb celsius though :P icefog yeah you get a coat of ice on your car just driving through it

allan5oh yup — had that in Northern MN too — odd stuff

Wow! It’s 45!

TT — ehehe - well we are going down to freeze (thats 32ºF or )ºC) 0ºC

No way, does it really get that cold? :-)

TT — ahh yup TT — two days ago we were 80+ºF and then the bottom dropped out

Yesterday, at 7 am, it was 75 here.

any wonder we get colds and illnesses

We were at 91 for the high

we went from like 80 and 70s then boom ehh - its fall

has anyone seen Publius?

swiggy - nottonight

global warming

PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti (AP) — Two U.N. peacekeepers from Jordan were shot to death in Haiti’s capital after coming under attack by gunmen, U.N. officials said Saturday.

El Nino!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006520347,00.html

the solution to Global Warming = handing over all your money

i am going to san antonio this month how cold is san antonio?

not very

good

dude, it’s Texas

Bigoted behavior from this ip/domain 

tortus — check out NOAA weather — works quitewell

yeah. i can find the weather reports. better to hear from residents

tortus, it’s 120 miles south of me, I have seen snow there though

tortus well I have found Noaa to be pretty good

humid?

tortus, just depends on which way the wind is blowing, it’s 66% here now

maybe just bring a raincoat. regular clothes

You don’t need anytihng heavy, that’s for sure. anything

tx

It might rain

might?

We are sorta semi arid

some places you count the days it rains, some places the days it doesn’t rain we get about half and half here but it can be big. we had on weekend last year with over 3 ft snow

Not likely here, we get fronts and sometimes downpours, but normally never more than 1 out of 4-5 days If that

when i lived in las vegas, the rain was so rare, we all got festive whenever it rained. course the rain in that desert always came in short fast cloudbursts. and flooded everything, but it was still an event to celebrate everytime

We are getting more this year, El Nino!

here, we can have days and days of misty rain

That would be very rare here

yeah. its nice though. but then, we can also have days and days of snow i am still scared of days and days of snow. i just can’[t relax about it

ok!! made the bed, fed hubby snf put a compress on my eye!!

makes me think of survival

I am tired now

Janet — why the compress on the eye?

I have a sty (sp)

ohhhhhh

hurts

sty is correct I think Damn those things hurt

thanks TheTailor

yup they do at that

but it is to close to the eye it’s self to mess with it

what is snf

snf?

ok!! made the bed, fed hubby snf put a compress on my eye!!

and

ahh significant? sunfishing — ahhh dunno

oh

thats called bad typing

i was hoping to hear a good recipe

hehehe

Well you can hardly see!

this is true

conjunctivitis. very contagious

but I have poor typing when I can see!! hehehe it is a sty not conjunctivitis

I had forgotten that

janet - well I’d tell you put a magnet on it - but ahh not a good place…

Aren;t they the same thing?

hehe Kaliuna no conjunctivitis infects the eye it’s self usually your eye gets red and itchy

janet- well there are masks - but ohhh– need smaller than that

heheh Kaliuna yeah

janet - well got some tiny dots — but ohh — ehhh

conjuntivitas = pink eye

by time I could send them to you - problem will be gone

Kaliuna.. I hope so!!

anything infecting the eye scares me. so close to the brain

I have not had one since I was a kid. and I have no clue what to do about it tortus, this is true… it is but sinus worried me more

yah my son was prone to ear infections, following strep. very scary

tortus, so what’s going on in San Antonio?

I was prone to sinus infections bad ones… till we moved to Az

i usually only get maladies that are just embarassing. like toenail off, and ligament in my ass out of center

Haha, the villagers in the Borat movie want to sue him now for making them look like hicks

Damn Romanians

everyone is so sue happy.. geeze

Stingray9 will take that case!

The article implied they were actually Gypsies. Romani, ahem

his sister fourth best prostitute in all of Kazak… NICE!

Is “Gypsies” a bad word now?

i gotta see that movie tomorrow

Yeah officially you aren’t supposed to say Gypsies any more. They don’t like it.

its roma

Roma yeah that’s right I just remembered it’s not-Gypsie

two words, hotel convention… You’ll need a hanky to wipe the tears from your eyes

hahha i hate hotels i really hate them

They hate those Roma still in the Balkans

they pretty much do the unthinkable

first thing, put the bedspread in the closet. then, spray the bathroom with lysol then, wipe the remote with antibacterial then, hope then, find a resident you can stay with

yeah that’s a good point. Worried about getting crabs, or something?

Gypsies sounds cool though, all that dancing around the fires and everything

Yeah I agree, in theory the whole Gypsie thing does sound like a cool lifestyle. Like riding around telling fortunes.

take a black light to the hotel surfaces, that will give you a clue

Oh great, now I’m never going to a hotel again

wear thongs! i mean flip flops

Pack some bleach

its nasty

tortus, so what’s going on in San Antonio?

its business

hey I was just there last week

i would hope for austin. but noooooooooo

In San Antonio?

yeah

sorry — was afk

Austin is nicer

tortus the riverwalk is nice

yeah?

yeah check it out

tx has to better than st louis

The riverwalk is nice

go to “Mad Dog’s” for a drink

ok. thanks good place to eat?

Christ in New York, Chris in New York, Christine York.. Ill trust my Glock 9mm over your faith father.

they have these two comedians, for their version of Karaoke

FreeTrade — HI HI

no mad dog’s is just for booze

Hi Kali.. End of days Arnold

there’s a nice enoug Italina place though italian

ok. i’ll pack some fritos and go to maddogs

FreeTrade — end of whose days??

666 is really 999 as in 1999, the year the devil returns to mater with a young girl before midnight of the millenia.

FreeTrade - sorry was off looking at some combos for doing our hallway — missed a bit

cool. Hoope tyhose two comedian girls are there who worked on Halloween they were hilarious

ok, thanks

actually they now think that 666 is wrong number

will get there

You took his body.. BANG Ahh Fuck Jesus * your bleeding! * of course I am bleeding you just shot me! Well i HAd to make sure you werent him.

hi FreeTrade The county office isn’t open

FreeTrade — ooookkk — I know its SAt night — babysitting thing??

Hey Randy.. End of days.. You evr seen it ?

so that means I have to go down there during the week

MOVIE –ohhh duh - not thinking of that

No, I don’t watch movies, unless porno

the Vatican knights are about to try to kill her because they dont have faith.. Waiting for my son to get back from the bathroom.

actually I think they do have food but we just drank

I thought your kids moved out

FreeTrade — ok gotcha - was NOT thinking about the movie

I have not seen a porno since i was 19, and then I felt icki in the theater haing no clue what people bad done in the seats I was in. That was 30 years ago or so Whose kids moved out ? Not mine ? My kids are my life..

our kids have no future the more like europe we get, the more this country is screwed

You have way too much energy to have kids still at home

bit thus guy again.. Hey why are the terrorists so happy the Dems won ? Anyone know ? I cant figure that out DOH

dems are gonna give this country away

FT I guess they beleave what the republicans said about them

FreeTrade - because the DEMS stand for cut/run - giving terrorists free reign

the day I cant figure something out geopolitically is the day I hang it up Kaliuna, Close

yeah, too bad a majority of americans cant figure that out

The Demos dont believe they are terrorists, they are misguided souls with bad childhoods.

they listen to abc news for 2 nights then vote

They need therapy and love

Free - about as close as I can get

the terrorist think the dims will be easier to pull the wool over their eyes

they need a 2X4 against the head

get away with something

we are screwed with dems inpower

The truth is they study our news intently

SweetLeaf - yes they do… because the DIMS have fallen into this PC thing

if they do that FT they know the dims are dumb shits

FreeTrade yes they do — they are NOT stupid these terrorists

We are not screwed and Bush is still president.

TT - true!

n00b552

I bet everytime they debate the torture thing they kick back and laugh in wonderment

b00b552

ok…granted…but if republicans dont regain control in 08 we are in trouble

No, the world won’t end then and if that is the case either

Nope they understand us, THey Watched Blackhawk down and bin laden was really moved by this show believing we wouldnt have the stomach for a fight,

noob not anymore than we already are in

HE actually believed he could win a war with the USA and he may be right if the dems leave

we dont have the stomach to fight

FreeTrade they watched Clinton’s lack of doing anything

we are in pretty hot waters but the american ppl dont get it yet

election just proved htat

well, he might just be right

why not…they think they won a war with the ussr

n00b552, no, the election didn’t just prove that.

The sad thing is we are playing the terrorists play book to the tee. exactly as they believed it to be.

they think they took out the ussr

we fight like politically correct pussies now…cant win a war like that

OK satan is here, I have to go, bbla

FreeTrade ONLY if we cut/run

We should run, but not cut

ok — FreeTrade — hi to son –have great night

Bah, nobody is cutting and running anywhere

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this is veitnam all over again

They won’t do it

TT — we hope — no idea what they might do

And no, it’s not Viet Nam all over again

TT — I sure hope they won’t

have to be careful what you wish for

media makes everybody spinless

Good grief, hahaha

n00b552 bull

George Bush said he is open to ‘new ideas’ for Iraq. I should email some suggestions.

We will be pulling out of Iraq by the end of 2007 if not the pubs dont have a chance of winning the presidency

Is my patriotic duty

ke6i-1, yes, he sent james Baker over there.

i got one…make that place a parking lot

ya - quit playing PC and let the military DO the job

yes, email him

TT –l;ol

so everybody knows…u fuck with us…..we will bury you

ke6i-1, that’s right, you do that

if you don’t email, you are letting your country down

If we pull out we can say we told you so

Do your civic duty man!

George Bush wants ‘New Ideas’ — iI got lots of ‘em

we already let the shi ia down wonce

start emialing

we need another reagan……desperately

One e-mail a day Till he listens up

too bad they dont make reagans maybe in china lol

back intermission kids hungry, time for hotdogs

no the media will soon start saying how WONDERFUl things are going in Iraq, you will hear nothing but good things in the media

All American meal

yes they will

and the people will think the dems, are brilliant

Those probably I get the ‘your suggestion is valuable to us’ reply

nathans yummy

US Male, You have nations burgers down south of me ?

Yes….and heres the best part…..when we are not out of Iraq in 2 years….pfft….out go the Democrats makes me laugh aaaahahaha

yep, the economy is gonna be sweet pretty soon too…according to media

nations ….. never seen it

then we will get Hillary as the president

God they make the best hamburgers / cheeseburgers

n00b552, gunna be? haha

janet - she will never be

oh yes the economcy will be fantastic!

Like it’s not now?

I think planets are aligning for McCain Presidency, Democratic congress.

exactly

no way for McCain either

anybody but mccain

I will not vote for Mccain….hes a wuee wuss

Screw McCain, he can’t be trusted.

well, itsw not like the military didn’t already recruit the best thinkers on the subject of war, and then train them relentlessly, and then cull the losers out, and then put them in a chian of command that wwould strip most people of any identity they ever had. its not like that

IM suporting Mccain

just waitin for a conservative

McCain is media favorite though.

no McCain for me thanks

you can buy nathans hotdogs in the store pretty good stuff q’d up

FreeTrade I will NEVER support McCain

No McCain for me either

Yeah you just wait though. When it’s McCain versus Hillary — you’ll see.

th emilitary world is quite competitive, they don’t lack thinkers

me either

I do not like the man.

I’m voting for Hillary

yeah right.

but we can only stop him during the primaries

I dont like McCain he stabbed Bush in the back over the torture thing

ke6i-1 — it won’t be and I wll never vote for McCain or Hillary

even if I stay home, it’s amost the same effect

mccain thinks he can be president. he signed up today

after the elections mccain starts talking consertive roots heh

Hes got a very high conservaive rankng with most groups in the almanac of american politics, he fucked up a couple times but he support Bush ardently during this war and still does. The war, he has had a couple minor disagreements with him on policy but he has ardently supported the war

I will NOT support mc cain that man is crazy

and still does

I don’t think he’s very smart

McCain scored points on the torture issue. That’s setting him up for the Presdiential election.

what makes frist think he can be president he suxed as leader

I eish you all could have him as a senator!

no McCain does NOT have that

wish

mccain is only the early sacrifice. he can’t make it

I have had my problems with McCain but if you wait for perfection as even hannity or limbaugh said you will wait forever.

he is NOT trusted by conservatives

you’d have your wish if he was prez!

Who can beat the democrats

FreeTrade even I can beat the dems

mc cain is not even close to sane…

its the left that likes mccain for a republican nominee

I’ll write in myself

mccain dont care who he fucks over on his way to the white house

and I’m not running for any office

I watched the GOP throw away two presidencies because they elected candidates who couldnt win.

just not mccain

McCain on the torture issue gives him enough distance from Bush for a ‘new direction’. Wash out the ‘Bush taste for voters. They won’t want a 100% Bush guy for the next President.

plus, mccain is 70 now, will be 72 in 08 that is too old

mc cain can not win.. you should hear him on the local radio shows

we need condi for pres….she is most qualified

I would rather have Rudy

he bloes up at the drop of a hat

can’t run guy who your base doesn’t like

yeah the age is an issue. I think the Age won’t matter unless McCain has a heart attack or something like htis.

blows

what’s the age of the oldest president

you base will stay home

at least you know where he stands

Bush 41 2nd term worst election in history and then Dole who was totally unelectable and the elections proved me right in both cases I wil not vote for someone who cant win

FreeTrade and I will never vote for McCain

nobody started a presidency at age 72

I will not vote for mc cain

McCain has huge popularity with independents.

I will vote for Hillary before I vote for mc cain

McCain can’t win, he will get some Democrat vote but little Republican vote

FreeTrade only the stupid ones

Kali Mccain or hillary which one you gonna vote for??

Janet he may well be the republican nominee unless someone new comes up soon.. and if they do great if they can win

Too bad there was never a ‘Dole versus MOndale’– for the ultimate snoozer election.

I will not vote for him

Indies are a small %

Sweet - neither - cause neither will get the not nod

there will be other gop candidates

lesser of the two

as I said I would vote hillary before I voted mc cain

But would you truly throw away an election to Hillary because of mccains relatively small flaws which I too dont like ?

we can only hope

Why do you hate him so much, JanetB?

they are not small

bob dole would have made a good pres

Then you are a fool pardon me

you live with him as your senator and you will see!

sweet - I’d vote for Newt or someones first

nominating McCain would be throwing it away

they are not small

Hillary should not run 2008. Wait at least until 2012+. We need at least one non-Bush, non-Clinton Presidency I think.

FreeTrade - no - McCain is NO good — backstabbing liar

he is very unstable

But to vote for hillary and ive the left the president cy when the facts are mccain is a conservative albeit his mistakes. thats insane

newt would be a good pres

I would like to see a ticket with rice as VP

we could alos nominate jeffords. oh wait, he is a democrat

and thats why the GOP lost a lot of elections in my lifetime that all or or none thinking

like mccain

he is not stable!

if RNC wishes to toss out 2008 they will nominate mcCain — they can do polls of Republicans which will give results similar to this

all or none thinking is not only worthless its immature..

FreeTrade actually McCain is NOT conservative at all

I think Hillary loses a few points for the ‘Too many Clintons and Bushes’ factor. She should wait.

Its not rational thinking

if the RNC fails to listen to the polls then they will suffer at their own doing

Rudy/Rice

FreeTrade well McCain IS irrational

mccain will catch the early flack.

it’s up to them whether they have a chance

so thats good

Rice is a non-starter

Mitt/Rice

untrustworthy –

I like rice

FreeTrade.. I am saying the man is not stable… I can not tell you how unstable he is, if you had dealings with him, you would see it

Rice would be good, maybe a VP

i have decided romney is also unnacceptable

An unstable President might be good for laughs

I like Romney

the morman thing

I like Newt

Janet, I know everything

Newt is out.

newt is not electable

I know his problems I know his faults

too much baggage

I know hes flawed I know hes not perfect

newt is too much of a blabbermouth.

I also know he is a conservative

FreeTrade and because I know McCain - I would NEVER vote for him

FreeTrade, you know him personally?

And he is highly electable

there’s no reason to think MCCain is the best the RNC can do

he is wll liked across the country

mccain is about as electable as hillary is

true US

I have not been impressed much by any repub congress person or senator

FreeTrade he is NOT as liked when they learn the truth

IF McCain is the best the RNC can do, and they have 2 years from now ? They had better get working on other candidates or else hang it up

Yeah I think most politcian’s evil nature comes out when you are close. This is how they all are, I thought. So I wouldn’t hold this against McCain

I liked what I seen of that Steel guy

Steele lost.

I have gone to many a fund raiser with mc cain in attendance here in az

And like I said if you guys had listened to me that night and most of you were here, I ran off the conservative ratings from the almanac of national politics and he came off as a solid conservative on things that matter.

ya but I liked what he said

no way do I want that man in the white house

Hillary might be electable, but it’s still too close to the Clinton presidency, imo. Democrats going for Hillary will be a huge mistake right now.

but the clinton presidency was a success

I think she already has the money lined up.

it was?

It’s still too many Clinton’s and Bushes.

Gromit- yes she does…

RNC should do polls on McCain sampling only Republican likely voters

how randym?

McCain is too old he is too flip floppy

that’s what counts

however — we need people totally unknown — right now

Hillary doesn’t have the Bill Clinton Charisma

mccain also was 6 yrs pow

the clinton economy baby

McCain is too tempermental - untrustworthy -

She’s actually kind of creepy.

yeah well she put out 30 mil.. in this election, and she had no need to the Rep party did not run anyone that could touch her

Republican likely voters, Mccain is in the top 3

why doesn’t Newt Gingrich run

the RNC should poll Az on mc cain if you want a real sampling

who do we get to run for prez

with guiliani who is much more leftwing or as you guys call it liberal

th eleft hates gingrich. no chance of independents either

I dont call it liberal I call it socialist vs capitalist leftwing vs individualist capitalist

ya Guili would be good in a cabinet post — but …

they probably only named 3

I would not vote guiliani either

I would vote Rudy

guiliani is not conservative enough

well.. I would if he was running againt hillary

really, a decent poll needs candidates who will actually run

no - but give him credit JANET — for cutting the criminal faction

against

BRB with evidence.

We need a Bob Dornan

As always

but I will not vote mc cain

check pm

no matter what

FreeTrade — you can post all the evidence you want — McCain is NO good and I will fight against him

Is Guliani past all the cancer problems? What did he have cut out,e xactly?

FreeTrade… evidence of his voting record, does not deal with his mental stability

i like guiliani in new york

Janet — you got that right

yup

How about JC Watts he is pretty consertive

tortus — he was not afraid of doing things — popular or not - for the betterment of citizens –

do they have fantasy politics?

I like him

I think McCain will take it — because of the torture issue and because the IRaq war will still be muddling along.

kinda like fantasy football

but I do not think he would get the GOP

only if McCain runs as an independent

the left will not vote for mccain,

he won’t get the gop nomination

the left will only promote mccain as a rep candidate. see the difference?

I think some lefties and moderates would vote for him

Newt!

Jsut because he ran a second to GW in 00 — there are many better people than McCain

I’d vote for Newt

Me too.

a lot better than mc cain

I don’t think I could vote for newt

YES I would as well

Newt can’t win, though.

Iwould vote for newt

if they run hillary/obama we will have to run some big guns who

Sure he can

All Newt would win is this chat room.

Newt could win

Nov 7 2006

Newt is good.

McCain is better on the podium than Bush.

the gop needs a governor to run

oh please obama is not ready for a national election

President Newt … bot the best branding.

nah, he’s just minus one vote (Gromit-)

Preference for Republican Presidential Nominee: . Republicans Republicans + Independents % % John McCain 28 26

bot/not.

cant think of one, but one could be thought up

Rudy Giuliani 22 22 Condoleezza Rice 13 12 Newt Gingrich 5 4 Mitt Romney 4 4 George Allen 2

McCain is too tempermental and well know for it — for radicallness

2 Bill Frist 2 1 George Pataki 1 There you go

Kali that’s what would make him good, other countries would back off

those stats do not address mc cains mental stability

heh.. Allen is still polling?

There ya go what?

The thing is that McCain is innoculated against Democrat attacks on the managing of the IRaq war.

Republican voters, and I have been watching the polls for the last year and it hasnt changed much

I would vote for Newt

or instability

Rebec - no — not all all –

hes always been in the top 2

I’d wait for a poll of people who are really running

I really dont like that list much

Still to far out, nobody is running

Poor Allen.

McCain’s issue is that Keating busines, and I think some other scandals I think.

or, might run

FreeTrade — past tense — been.. not will be

ke6 yeah but just about every candidate has some scandal somewhere

people who may run vs won’t run

hi swigert

What Keeting business? Keating

it was a banking scandal

hey rebec

the savings and loan scandal

Or I forget, McCain was connected to one of these scandals.

just took GRE practice test - V 610, Q 480

not bad

no they hung that on symington

raise the Q which I also have to do

What has Newt to do with it

mc cain got off on that

Believe me if McCain goes forward as a candidate, we’ll know ALL about it.

Those are the people running, People on this channel are not indicative of the avg republican/democrat I have said that 1000 times too.. These are the real people the ones who vote. Now there is an outside chance a dark horse with tremendous charisma will surfacre from nowhere but I dont see it

I vote

yes I know - I’ve done better before

that’s a list of people that others want to run

mccain is hiring his presidential staff as we speack k

Giuliani won’t run, or COndi

I vote as do all my children and their spouses McCain has already put his feet in the ring…

FT, yeah but it’s to early to poll

where is jimmy carter type when you need one heh

plus, there are “dark horse’ possibilities such as Clinton

US, Thats a list of who republcians would elect if the elecion were today

mc cain put his feet in the ring today

I’ve voted in EVERY election since I turned 18 including from the embassy in Kiev cause I was stuck in Kiev so let him run

meaning, CLinton was never heard of nationally until the summer of his election year

janet - yesterday actually — but ya he did and NO WAY

I think everyone who wants to run should run

Yeah, what kinda poll is that, Rice isn’t running and that’s been known forever

Rebc, some would rather vote for hillary.

get rid of parties let people run he with the most votes wins the 2nd most gets VP

I think there is something persuasive — about a guy who ‘has been tortured’ runining the ‘war on terror’.

US — oh I knew about Clinton way before then….

Kaliuna, still today here

yeah but I’d rather wait for a poll of people who might actually run — who have not said “no”

I’d rather hang myself than vote for hilary course I am a libertarian and vote that way

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