11.29.07

wouldnt the census data on political party affiliation be less accurate then say registered repubs and dems numbers

Posted in Politics at 10:30 am by Michael Johnson

i went back to campus last night and took down all the defaced posters I think i’m going to launch a formal complaint with the dean about it

what happened Herzen?

defaced posters of….?

someone went around and defaced every poster on campus of the local youth conservative movement

ah

how terrible :p

well, that’s the sort of thing that’s got to be pretty common on a college campus

yeah, basic ideological prejudice is pretty common on college campus

I doubt anyone will be able to determine who did it Actually, a funny way to handle it would be for the conservative kids to put up new posters that are laminated and hang a dry erase marker next to eachone. invite kids to deface them and make a joke out of it.

ahem

Katey-, haha that is a funny idea Katey-, kind of like a “deface below” section

yep hey Null_Ptr

hey katey

Herzen, takes the wind out of the original defacing

why cant military overthrows take place in the countries that really need them

hmm…

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel intends to complete a troop withdrawal from Lebanon by the weekend, Defense Minister Amir Peretz said on Wednesday. that’s a BAD EHUD OLMERT NO BISCUIT

Null_Ptr, I’m preparing a small force to go into Thailand and defend the restaurants. The Thai food must be protected! Null_Ptr, you want in?

yes, especially the hot peppers we must safeguard those

Katey-, i have spare assault rifles, ammunition and those surplus camoflage jackets you always see at second hand stores

it is a matter of culinary national security

Herzen, cool

Katey-, since nobody wanted to join my intifada against my neighbors

I’ll come pick them up on my way lol

herzen i thought you were going to exterminate the aboriginees

no, just neighbors who play rap really loud

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Herzen, it’s so hard to get us soft, decadent westerners to join an intifada these days.

yes, intifada has a sucky dental plan

yeah i need a group of palestinians to move into the building

and they dont support family & medical leave

but i’m afraid they may just indoctrinate their children and throw rocks

herzen the secret to combatting loud rap music is super loud country music (you don’t have to like it, just take comfort in that they find it annoying)

I think Herzen should blast his march music

YES you mean like sousa?

yep he’s got lots

or oh you mean ukrainian how about loud polka music with accordians

that would be good too

Karl L. King - General Lee.mp3

Herzen, you got the sound track to the Dukes of Hazzard tv show?

nah i’m sure its 20 banjo songs

“just a good ole boys, never meaning no harm, beats all you never saw, been in trouble with the law, since the day they was born”

Pop country is one of the few things that’s crappier than pop rap.

actually it’s probably way worse than that 20 banjo songs would acutally be pretty cool

BUDAPEST (Reuters) - Hungarian police said on Wednesday that hard-core soccer hooligans had hijacked peaceful anti-government protests, but embattled Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany blamed the opposition for two nights of violence.

lol

Banjos rock.

you hear what that guy said?

yes, we were just having a “peaceful anti-government protest” until those SOCCER HOOLIGANS showed up

P_O, you familiar with Bella Fleck and the Flecktones?

that guy should resign the quicker the better

Katey-, I am not. Give me the low down.

P_O, it sweet and nice

Katey- i’m going to suggest to them that they do that

P_O, go get some

coups are so under rated

three big posters like that

Herzen, hah. Let me know if they do it. I think it’s always better to make humor out of something someone does to try to fuck you up it’s more potent than tit for tat

herzen are they black or are they non-blacks that like rap? because the potential mockery would take a different form, depending

Herzen, what posters got defaced?

hey everyone. anyone here interested in voting methods at all? i realized this summer that range voting is the only voting system that will ever give us “real” democracy.

i prefer the two party system because it makes it clear who the enemy is liberals

Fuck two parties. Fuck parties in general, but they are even more useless in this format.

do not question the two party system’s authoritah or it will puteth the smaq down upon you

Our current parties don’t even have real platforms, they just stake different positions on current events based on what’s happened recently. It’s all reactionary, and very little of it is constructive.

right, same as ancient greece nobody’s planning for 10000 years from now

It’d be a lot harder to be that stupid and get elected if there were more parties.

we need to build a giant space arc to take us away from our warn out planet we must start now today

I was going with a giant lava lamp

you guys are just focused on “what’s in the news” and shit, we have to have the BIG PICTURE

but whatever floats your boat.

My grand dad read some sci fi book that had that premise

anyway, we need to sacrifice someone for energy to build the arc

That’d be pretty crazy, a giant lava lamp with Beryllium bubbles you can ride in.

I can’t remember what the title was or who wrote it

i am thinking since P_O doesn’t believe in these sorts of things, he should be first to be sacrified

Katey-, you’re a title.

your momma

see, this is the quality intellectual exchange i come here for hehe

yo mama’s sista.

“no you’re a boob” “yo mama”

lol

I aim to please.

p_o who do you think we should attack next after iraq

Antarctica.

Liechetenstein! crush those fuckers!

no not lichtenstein

sneaky bastards

they have cool hats

We should make an ice nation and house ICBMs there. KAteyheheh. I can’t type. Might have something to do with me not sleeping yet.

well go to bed dumbass

Nah, my girlfriend is going to wake up in 25 minutes. I’m not going to wake her up earlier than I have to.

my daughter is a wreck this morning. She didn’t sleep well either. She’s stuffy and keeps having these nose bleeds. poor kid

i dont think ive ever had a nosebleed

Katey-, I’m sick too, but I can’t touch the nose bleeds.

maybe it is because i have no nose

Null_Ptr, so you’re the M&M guy. Another great mystery solved.

gotta go drive the kids to school ttyl

did you know ducks have no ears

Later Katey. I’m going to go off to GTA land for a little bit my self.

yes that will help you prepare it is a good metaphor for life

it jolly

boobies

The Shah’s wife did look like Eva Longoria

its good to be the shaw

ohh god, I wished Hootie and the Blowfish would….. blow away=P give a guy a gibson guitar and he thinks he is a rockstar =/

*sings* Turkzadeh Mani “Shah”

booooo creepy music choices hooray beer!

I like Sarah Shahi

=0 3 objects floating near the shuttle! its an invasion force from planet zoolambaalphacenti damn it

Ted Turner sure said some interesting things yesterday

hah

on the invasion of iraq “It will go down in history, it is already being seen in history, as one of the dumbest moves that was ever made by anybody. A couple of others that come to mind were the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor and the German invasion of Russia,” Turner told the forum.

*sings* Turkzadeh Mani “Watch me Flip”

wow ted turner is an idiot

Japanese Bombing Pearl Harbour was idiotic cause that got us in WWII!

it was idiotic because it got Japan fucked :P

because not cause

iran and nuclear weapons “They’re a sovereign state,” Turner said of Iran. “We have 28,000. Why can’t they have 10? We don’t say anything about Israel — they’ve got 100 of them approximately — or India or Pakistan or Russia. And really, nobody should have them.

hahahahaha Ted Turner says that men should be banned from running for president around the world and allow women to replace them, then turns around and says he supports Al Gore for president

Ted Turner is a Communist !

TIMMAY!!

it’s TIMMEH!

Ted Turner is also a Democratic Infidel !

fuck communism. i’m a libertarian. i believe in freedom. i also believe in range voting.

a librarian? freedom for books

If I had to choose to vote between Satan and Ted Turner, Satan would look like a ok type of guy !

P_O with range voting, parties are sort of irrelevant. you can make up a name for your party if you wish, and be the only one in it. nyuk nyuk! punchscan.org pretty sweet new secure voting scheme from david chaum.

comparisons to Satan are…. hmmm…crazy? damn, the replay official that blew the call in the Oregon-Oklahoma game has gotten death threats its a GAME for God’s sake….

Ted Turner isn’t evil I don’t think, just misguided

KoBushi, I’m surprised anybody pays attention to him anymore..

Ted Turner is a perfect example of what happens to a person who is to stupid to be a billionaire

well clearly he isn’t too stupid to be a billionare, or else he wouldn’t be one anymore

OTTAWA (Reuters) - The chairman of the publicly funded Canadian Broadcasting Corp. has resigned after remarks about bestiality and ruminations about defecation, Canadian Heritage Minister Bev Oda said on Tuesday. Guy Fournier created an uproar in Canada’s Lebanese community and in the media when he claimed that Lebanon allowed men to have sexual relations with female animals, but reserved the death penalty for those who did so with male animals.

it’s just proof that having economic talents, doesn’t translate into wisdom

economic talents? heh riiiight he got his money from his rich daddy, who you trying to kid?

RustyFord right, and just magically kept it while spending so much a fool and his money are soon parted

“I would say that anything that is indeent and violent in TV is a crime against humanity and they should shoot the head man responsible.” - Ted Turner. “If I sold all my liabilities, I wouldn’t own anything. My ife’s a liability, my kids are liabilities, and I haven’t sold them.” - Ted Turner, on selling off his money losing properties.

heh, Turner’s daddy wasn’t rich…he was bankrupt probably a reason he killed himself

Ted Turner is like Paris Hilton

except he’s male…old…ugly..yep he’s exactly like her

TimothyT only with less cocksucking heroine

ted makes home sex pix?

less cocksucking AND heorine I mean

I wish Ted Turner didn I wish Ted Turner didn’t hire Tom Johnson

welcome to the Salvador Dali hour

PALMETTO, Florida (AP) — Mark Giorgio figured a 50-foot plunge was worth $20. Giorgio, 47, was counting his money and walking across the U.S. 41 bridge over the Manatee River Monday when a $20 bill blew out of his hand and flew over the rail. He followed. And plummeted 50 feet into the river. Then he swam about 100 yards to fish the bill from the water. “I got my money back, hell yeah,” Giorgio told the Sarasota Herald-Tribune. “Twenty bucks is a lot of money when you’re broke.” LOL! fuckin’ crack head

now egypt is talking about becoming a nuclear power “we will do it no matter what we are told from the west”

that’ll have to wait until after Mubarak

nice

Iran has already stated that they are willing to sell off their technology

you don’t need to be president to make policy when you’re his son

penny pinchers are better than most men !

mmmmm left arm numb chest pain in 5… 4… 3… 2…

cyberfrg, true enough..but son isn’t going to do anything that might jeopardize dad’s deal with the US

oh man

it Harz0n

the student paper here quoted me saying that the NDP (left party) don’t support canadian troops (which they don’t) Funny stuff

President Abdullah Ali Saleh will win again

if you can’t be an athlete, be an athletic supporter Beautiful Japan

is cyberfrg dead yet?

dunno..poke him and see

he might be faking - I’ll wait till he gets ripe

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - The man who tried to kill Pope John Paul II in 1981 has warned the current Pope not to visit Turkey, saying his life would be in danger, his lawyer said on Wednesday.

i believe that

September 20, 2006 · Saddam Hussein’s trial in Baghdad was disrupted when a witness wore a lapel pin with the image of the Kurdish, rather than the Iraqi flag. The flag issue has taken on greater importance in Iraq since Sept. 1. That’s when Massoud Barzani, the president of Iraq’s Kurdish region, banned the flying of the Iraqi flag at government buildings.

great, now the kurds want to start trouble

the US could still salvage the hopes for a democratic, pro-Western state in the ME…support Kurdistan

phfft, the kurds are a gentle ppl

LOLOL

and to hell with what the Turks think

i posted an article about something like that last week…though it was about how the Sunni’s are upset at the Shiite and Kurd legislation that would carve up Iraq into a federation of 3 states

RIGHT

divisions are growing

hell the Kurdish north has been a defacto independent state since the end of Gulf War, Part 1

divisions are not growing. keep dreaming

thats true they’re not growing…they’re already there

Anyone hear anything about NYC getting nuked in a few days? I heard something on the radio about muslims being warned to leave NYC before Ramadan but I missed most of it

lol

Can’t seem to find anything with a search

how many different ramadan threats can we get

check Alex Jones’ website….

ahhh is it just a BS report?

either it is or it isn’t … do you plan on going to new york?

I live In NY, just wondering

head to Jersey…you’ll be safe there

you can either leave or stay … there’s no telling if it’s a real threat or not until it either does or doesn’t happen just think about it this way … being at ground zero is much better then being a few miles out

this pope thing is getting ridiculous

yup

was strange, was right after I watched a history channel documentary about how the japanese planned to nuke San Fransisco aug 17 1945

they still rioting over the pope’s comments?

Herzen, it’s still going on?

yeah

and burning down churches and whatnot … you know, the typical peaceful religion

What now?

that’s strange indeed…especially considering Japan didn’t have a nuclear weapon then

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict said on Wednesday that his use of medieval quotes portraying a violent Islam did not reflect his views and were misunderstood, but he did not give the clear apology still demanded by many Muslims. The leader of the world’s 1.1 billion Roman Catholics, whose speech last week has provoked al Qaeda groups to declare war on the Church, Iraqis to burn the Pope’s effigy and Turks to petition for his arrest, said he had not meant to cause offence. thats today

SANTA ROSA, Calif. — One-time JonBenet Ramsey murder suspect John Mark Karr was offered a plea deal Tuesday on child pornography charges that would free him on probation. Assistant District Attorney Joann Risse said prosecutors would waive three of the five child pornography possession charges against him if he pleaded guilty on two remaining charges.

I guess they planned to use 2 submarine aircraft carriers that were waiting for a Nazi Submarine that was on it’s way to Japan loaded with nuke material and make a dirty bomb to drop on San Francisco

I think we need to develop an ‘in your face’ attitude toward fundimentalist Islam. Cartoons everywhere, every day.

that’s what happens when ‘journalists’ lift a couple of sentences from a rather long, and more than a little esoteric speech…

fuel for the fire

but Hitler Killed himself while the sub was on it’s way and they surrendered to the US

cyberfrg, good, eventually that fire will burn out.

as we have already seen, the fire between israel and islam is far from burnt out … it is no different for us at this point

cyberfrg, bullshit, if they Islam at large were to see that eVERYONE is against their murdering ways, maybe it would prompt the vast majority of Islam to police their own assholes.

a nazi a dirty bomb? I doub they had conceived of such a thing back then -a

http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/06.09.19.SecurityBreach-X.gif

time to flee…cheers kids

you’d think, but it is my opinion that non-militant muslims are pussies. they live with these people, they know where they go to temple. they are their family and their friends. and yet they do nothing

I guess they had it according to the History channel…but never used it

“i don’t want to be killed … oh noooes”

cyberfrg, that’s my point, if we insulted them on a daily basis in en masse, then maybe they would turn on the murderers.

i don’t see it

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1687851/posts not much online about the Japanese atomic bomb

cyberfrg, of course you don’t, it hasn’t been tried.

it was a pretty amazing documentary

if everyone in the US would go out and put on a muhammed bomb-hat tshirt it would enrage every muslim but not in the way you are talking about

didn’t know the japanese had 400′ aircraft carrier submarines

it could possibly even justify everything the militants are saying

cyberfrg, not everyone in the US, everyone around the world, this isn’t just about the US against the murderers.

Across the nation’s 36 races for governor, Republican candidates in states heavy with moderate or Democratic voters are playing up their liberal positions on issues including stem cell research, abortion and the environment, while remaining true to their party’s platform on taxes and streamlining government. Thanks Moderates, thank s a LOT

haha, that would require other countries actually trying to help each other what, now moderates are bad?

cyberfrg, they would be helping themselves, and it doesn’t have to be t-shirts, it can be on the net.

range voting rules.

wth is range voting? speaking of trouble hey OcDoc

ahhh here’s the documentary on Japan’s atomic Bomb http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml?id=74425

Herzen, the Pope should say he has deep respect for Islam, but NO respect for those that pervert it to violence.

work

TheTailor, i agree

but they are pretty happy to resort to violence

just six days after Hiroshima, Japan tested its own atomic device on a small island 20 miles off the Korean coast hmmm I think I saw a different documentary, the one I saw was mainly focused on Japans plan to nuke San fransisco aug 17 1945

NASA dashes hopes of Tom Cruise, UFO’s are earth originated objects

TimothyT would also be affected Rusty

hah

not all UFOs are explainable….

i could see Tom jumping up and down on a couch yelling “BOSS! THE UFO! BOSS! THE UFO!!”

most are from good or not so good Acid and such

most are just Airforce craft

i flew an airplane into the face of god

pilgrim?

that big traingle thing is just a stealth blimp harrier carrier, we used to watch harrier jets hook onto it and get pulled into it with a crane

colonel mike bumgardener

hey wot

that’s his name

hiya Cry

some guy from guantanamo bay funny

wut wut! ya’ll see this coup in thailand hahaha sweeeeeeeet

yeah it’s a good coup go military

get krunk in thailand!

ahhhhh Thailand

admit it, you all love the idea of a military coup

how is a coup; good?

the leading general is a muslim i wouldn’t call it “good” just yet

Rusty well he made the right move. heh

uhh

libertine because the guy was a loser and everyone hated him

how is it a “right move”?

now the king is back in charge and the people are happy

how about following the law and having elections

dwayne: and this general will do what? just step aside and hold elections?

they are going to

instead of taking power in a coup

Rusty lol pfft heh

the general in charge of the coup said he will step down in 2 weeks for an interim prime minister and then there will be elections next year uthe general in charge of the coup said he will step down in 2 weeks for an interim prime minister and then there will be elections next year/u

dwayne yeh, they are going to have elections for a person that this general CHOOSES

because the current PM wuld probably do voter fraud again

rustyford - no. the general is choosing a caretaker. then there will be general elections next year to replace the caretaker

replacing one despot for another; is not a solution.

Publius, then they need to change their constitution to allow for impeachment

this has happened more than fifteen times in thailand since world war 2 it always ends in a democratic election

Rusty yah RF doesn’t this thai king have an excellent reputation though?

amongst his people, yeh

well the king ordered the army to do this right?.’

nope the general said he did it all on his own

osama put e coli wmd in my salad

i don’t understand you sometimes Publius i mean seriously

the king has been through 15 constitutions, 20 prime ministers, and 16 military coups

hwo can you say a coup in thailand is a good thing, but its a bad thing in Pakistan?

and the king’s privy council is the reason why the coup was enacted the privy council didn’t like the way the prime minister was going and he wouldnt change his ways

RF i thought i ended up thinking musharaf’s coup was a good thing

so when he left the country they told the military to intervene

heh

pakistan and india ought to merge again

LOL

Publius yeh but you were complaining about Musharraf the other day

right… libertine

RF yah and you corrected me lol heh

muslims and hindus, fat chance

lots of muslims live in India

100 million Muslims in India

no there isnt thats a complete lie

yes there is

stop lying

Chief Religions in India: Hindu 81%

hehehe i just checked it is actually 174 million

Muslim 13%

” I didn’t include in my book Rosie O’Donnell’s recent outburst comparing Christian fundamentalists to Islamic fundamentalists because she didn’t have the decency to utter it before we went to print.”

Christian 2 % other 1%

i find that misleading because everyone always says the most populous muslim nation on earth is indonesia

DarthBurg, whose that?

50% of muslim females illiterate

yet if india has 175 million muslims then it seems that isnt true

13% of 1,080,000,000

Herzen, David Limbaugh

There are more than 100 million Muslims in India, like 140 million

lol

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?UrlTitle=values_voters_cant_live_with_or_without_them&ns=DavidLimbaugh&dt=09/20/2006&page=2

118 Million approximately

my Hindo friend talks about them all the time Hindu that is

dwayne…I am quoting figures from the almanac

245,452,739 - Indonesia with 88% of the population being Muslim

Darthburg….and howe many males are only capable of understanding the Q’uran?

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11729724/the_low_post_another_tale_of_waste_and_fraud_unpunished

can’t find the damn study fuggin google

Darth…yer preaching to the choir here Almanac shows hoffifying illiteracy rates for most musim countries

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CryHavoc there was a UN mandated study a couple of years ago, it was fucking SCARY the stats I heard from the thing.

if you mean illiteracy in the muslim lands,…I can dig it

I can not even imagine half of the females I know not being able to read

ROME, Sept. 19 (UPI) — Oscar-winning actor Sean Penn may wind up portraying legendary physicist Albert Einstein for a joint U.S.-Italian TV film production. i can’t believe they are going to get a dumbass like him to play such a smart man like Einstien

its was a wide study, Hygene, education, literacy

can you imagine a country with 162 Million people…having 47% literacy?

rustyford yeah he’s dumb because his political opinions differ from yours

CryHavoc if its a muslim country, sure

god i’m sick of rabid zealots

Darth……it is called Pakistan

dwayne who has your goat now?

dwayne stfu

really

heh

rabid zealots are teh suck

Paki? thats just wrong

dwayne is a NWO er….

i never spoke of my political beliefs

Darth…I call it beyond wrong….

but i tend to disregard people who would meet with our enemies

I call it dangerous

traitors tend to piss me off

cryhavoc yes I support the New World Order

There is but one way, and it is the way of Jesus Christ

Black Heli wacko sighted……mount tinfoil hats!!!

wait, no There is but one way, and it is the way of L. Ron Hubbard

cryhavoc - whatever

wait, it is the way of Mohammed Moses? Siddharta Gautama?

Can’t we all just get along?

Krishna?

Pagan Winter festival!

let us dance skyclad!!!

well, whatever it is, everyone else is going to BURN IN HELL FOREVER

WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- The U.S. government recorded record-high overall and corporate tax receipts on Sept. 15, which was a quarterly deadline for tax payments, the Treasury said Monday. Total tax receipts were $85.8 billion on Friday, compared with the previous one-day record of $71 billion on Sept. 15 of last year, the Treasury said. niiiiiiiice

taxes are to high, the GOV does not need that kinda cash flow

so much for that arguement that the rich have been soaked by taxes er

the rich are soaked with taxes

i am soaked by taxes…

so much for that arguement that the rich have been soaked by tax breaks

we got a tax break? oh, the pittance

heh the bush plan? pfft it barely helped.

time to axe some taxes like death tax

“I say your 1/4 percent titanium tax doesnt go far enough” … “and I say your 1/4 cent titanium tax does not go too far!”

the thing is, no matter how well the fed does, the easy thing is is to slide back to 2k (The Good Old Days) and still find current revenues lacking

and replace current system with the Fairtax

we should just nuke the UN

Libertine I just abolished Inheritance taxes in my nation state

nationstate is a joke.

RF….nahh why waste a perfectly good nuke…. kick themout of the uSA

“We begin bombing the UN in 5 minutes”

bbiab food time

if you do not institute Donkey Policies in Nationstate, your country goes to hell.

CryHavoc: my pop seems to grow a few million a night now.

COLONEL MIKE BUMGARDENER

CryHavoc: ack.. “The Incorporated States of Libertine Land is a large, socially progressive nation, remarkable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 32 million live in a state of perpetual fear, as a complete breakdown of social order has led to the rise of order through biker gangs.”

his name is bum gardener he gardens bums

Libertine see? since you did not institue the “proper” left wing GOV controls, Nationstate says you suck

it doesn’t say I suck. it says I need more cops

dwayne is Bumgardners lawnboy

darthbug dislikes nationstates because it is too much like reality in that if you oppress or neglect the populace they bash you

and, Nationstate wil always say you have raped your forests if you have ANY capitalism going on

for some reason I moved from Corporate Bordello to Anarchy.

darthburg lives in a mahogany mansion

dwayne, actually, my point is, Nationstate is no where near reality, but instead, is based on the Left Wing Fantasy.

and my point is the opposite ie. that you live in a bizarre right wing fantasy

enough of the stupid aussie

dwayne, actually, no, you see, logic and reason trump good feelings it takes a right winger to win 49 states. the only country in the world with a viable right wing is? the Lone Superpower of the World is?

darthburg - uganda?

The only way for a country to grow, as proven by the Republicans, the Party of God, is to engage in massive military spending.

uganda, UN success story

right. you think uganda is a ’success story’

CryHavoc: you’ve changed into a Left-Leaning College State.

e-Hernick reagan also cut taxes from 70% to 28%. some figure that might have had something to do with it uganda, is many things, a success, it is not.

reagan republicans are long dead

e-Hernick where do you think neocons came from?

if i hear the word bumgardener again i am going to die of laughter c-span keeps saying it over and over

good question.. but they’re not conservative, that’s for sure

NeoCons are democrats who voted for Reagan.

those so-called “neocons” if they exist and do control goevrnment, are clearly big-government republicans in fact, the Republicans are a big-government party.

clearly

and so are the Democrats.

agreed.

hahaha neocons are idiots

takes one to know one.

the entire neocon policy revolves around pre-emptive war it’s just a war doctrine war on arabs

oh god

actually, pre-emption is a Bush Policy. the thinking being AFTER the attack being a little late to prevent it

the arabs brought the war to us first we

i know you are but what am I

why would a political party ever NOT be big-government other than for reasons relating to personal ethics?

we’re just responding

tiresome arguement

yes, pre-emption is the bush neocon policy correct

it’s not in the interest for a political party concentrating on federal power to give up said federal power.

Libertine ya think?

ergo… we’re boned.

libertine - it’s in the people’s interests for them to give it up hence the constitution has an amendment saying you can only stay for 2 terms

dwayne: so the RNC and DNC gain power then.

such… ignorance.

dwayne: if terms were limited to 2 per person; it would only enhance the power of the DNC and RNC respectively; as they would become the penultimate authority of canadidate selection.

terms are limited to 2 per person

the party itself would pick it’s figurehead for each race; every 2 years. this is not a solution.

it may work in Aussie world

dwayne: i thought you wanted to extend it to congress. sorry; thought you were refering to the congress; not the pres.

who cares about congress theres 400 congressmen

not nearly enough if you ask me.

I think one should only be allowed to work for the Local or FED GOV for a maximum of ten years, then you have to get a real job.

no 535

there should be 300 million minus children

i’d like one congressman per 100,000 people; all of them; not paid. put the service back in public service.

screw that abolish congress and make every citizen a congressman

dwayne: ah.. mob rule.. got it.

we have a close senate race here, and some out of state outfit did a Salary survey, and found out the Local City, County, and State Employee’s average take home pay is higher than the average take home pay for the non GOV employees.

how is it mob rule

they ran an add

congress is only 1 arm of government

dwayne: democracy is always mob rule.

whiners

dont you understand what the separation of powers is? three arms of government: executive, judicature, and legislature

boo hoo hoooooo its all governments fault! wahhhwahhhhhhh

dwayne: yes and the most powerful branch is the legislative. hence ‘article I’

pffft the executive is obviously the most powerful

if the congress wanted to restrict the president’s power; all they have to do is remove all funding. so, no.

president has a veto on anything the legislature could ever say or do

Libertine wouldn’t work

anything the legislature says or does is at the pleasure of the president not exercising his veto

and congress can override a veto.

the president, i.e., the executive, is supreme

counternote:the legislater can override the presidents veto with a 2/3 majority

havent you heard of the unitary executive theory

frankly; i’d prefer if the president veto’d EVERY bill

i dont prescribe to it but there is some truth to it

didn’t you take civics class dwayne?

if 3/4 of congress isn’t for something; odds are - the people don’t want it.

we need to take away powers from the president

godfist, he is looking at it from the perspective of an Aussie

godfist - counternote: the president commands his party which always commands the legislature anyway

rusty-um ok

gridlock is preferable to bad law.

well doesnt always, but often does

dwayne-not true, there was a republican majority when bill clinton the DEMOCRAT was in power duh?

heh, my point exactly

note how your points are already rebutted before you type them

lol you haven’t rebutted anything i’ve said thanks for playing

dwayne-not true, there was a republican majority when bill clinton the DEMOCRAT was in power

?

Im thinking the dems are about to rise to power again

god help us

its called ‘backlash’

anyway, if every citizen was a congressman, that would NOT be a mobocracy it would be a mobocracy if the other two branches were abolished or brought subservient to the legislature

given the polling; the dems and repubs seem to be evenly polling.

Libertine a typical lie, republicans win far more elections.

DarthBurg: im refering to polling.

I”ll have a Darth Burger with lettuce and tomato :P

in new york state there are 5.5 million democrats and 3million republicans.

Libertine I am no fan of polling

that would just taste nasty

registered, that is

comp-heh yea

DarthBurg: you dont have to be a fan for me to comment on polling :P

I still say the Reps will hold power and gain seats

I wish both parties would lose seats, and let some Libs in =]

with gas pricing sinking; the odds of a dem takeover of the house is unlikely.

in the USA, there are 41% registered GOP, 19% registered Democrats, and 40% other. (Census, 2k)

hell, maybe even the odd Green Party moonbat… just to mix it up =P

if gas had remaining over $2/gal in november.. i’d be saying dems take the house. remained; typo

Men smuggled monkeys in pants; also leopard cubs, orchids, birds of paradise 2 PM LOS ANGELES (Court TV) - When the rare birds of paradise escaped from his suitcase and flew over the heads of U.S. Customs Agents at Los Angeles International Airport, Robert Cusack decided it was best to confess that, yes, he did have more to declare

most voters vote their pain.

hahahahaha

you are a complete liar darthburg the actual figures are 63 million registered Democrats 47 million registered Republicans 32 million registered as independents

hey is that a monkey in your pants or are you just going banana’s to see me?!?

dwayne, media myth, the census numbers registered no such thing.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnists/neuharth/neu057.htm everything that proves you wrong is a media myth

I can not help but notice you are not quoting the actual census did you bother to VERIFY the shit the media told you?

yes i verified it in my secret leftist communist lair results were encouraging i place my rubber stamp of socialism on this excellent people’s product

dwayne, so, if your fake numbers are right, how do you explain more republicans in office than Donks? did the media cover that ne for ya to?

they stole the elections with fraud, of course!!! P that’s the only “logical” answer /moonbat

mm diebold

cause it is getting hard for dead dems to vote

wouldn’t the census data on political party affiliation be less accurate then say; registered repubs and dems numbers?

HAHAHA, the USA Today article quotes a Fucking Gallop Poll bwahahahahahahaha

all the census does is have people say “today, i think i am republican”

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