11.29.07

wouldnt it make sense to let the current research take its course and see if anything interesting happens before

Posted in Politics at 3:51 pm by Michael Johnson

k I am willing to hear you proof

try that one.

calif did it to boost its university system, and its biotech industry, not because of politics or need. that was pure economic development. they want biotech industry like silicon valley

IOll fucking kill them

heh

abum, goverment is not funding stem cell research

what was political?

no kidding

it’s the merit of a particular kind of research. the only one making it political is the one banning discussion of it, it’d seem.

abum, what medical research have the federal goverment funded

lol this is 2 funny

5Disrespect

gop. gop. gop.http://grants.nih.gov/grants/index.cfm read that.

Tim-bbl, is that federal goverment or state goverment

I know the intent of the person who was banned. It was a personal denigration of a person with chronic health problems. I wont allow that

Under the president’s request, the budget of the National Institutes of Health, which doubled from 1998 to 2003, would rise by 0.7 percent, to $28.7 billion next year. That is much less than what would be needed to keep pace with the costs of biomedical research, which are rising more than 3.5 percent a year. it’s FEDERAL. the NIH.. is a federal agency. NATIONAL. Institutes of Health. wake up and smell the coffee.

heh

Tim-bbl, are they funding research

lol

or are they funding to help people

looool

k I see

redfish what about AZ researches? are they better than cali researchers also?

yes, the NIH.. funds research. .and that research.. often helps people.

the feds do pay for fetal stem cell research. but only on stem cell lines that were started years ago

bud no but oklahoma researchers are

it more of a grant then funding

looooool

Abum, What is so funny ?

abum how soon until we see results from the tens of millions already invested in research?

sorry

nih is federal? i thought they were an advisory group

k I see

No what ?

nope.

Tim-bbl, you prove a good point abum, you where right I was wrong

bravo, thanks.

amazing

Well, Ok, Ill go eat..

Free

what?! he’s entirely mistaken. i don’t know anything about glock’s condition and i like glock. he’s one of the few fair-minded people

freetimer, what your food what are you going to eat tonight

just fyi.

wouldnt it make sense to let the current research take its course and see if anything interesting happens before just demanding every tax payer be forced to pay for MORE and MORE?

nih is not federal scientists

Dumb fuck Some people are so fucking dense

why would you post that seen rather harsh

wb tim

I didn’t think it was a secret, esp since it was kind of obvious from 1) previous discussions and 2) the context of the conversation as it happened.

what the hell is a t0tgiglz

a rock band?

what does abum mean

a laughing toddler

disbelief .. okay here is the story on it causing tumors http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=scienceNews&storyID=2006-10-22T192559Z_01_N22437291_RTRUKOC_0_US-STEMCELLS.xml&pageNumber=1&imageid=&cap=&sz=13&WTModLoc=NewsArt-C1-ArticlePage1

so, sorry Glock, if it was outta line, but it was not me who brought up (mistakenly) that you or anyone else was being attacked for ‘political’ interpretations of the validity of medical resarch.

that’s p-diddy’s new name I think he’s now totsgiglz

yeah, lots of things cause lots of things, but that doesn’t mean they can only cause those things. that’s why.. research.

actually thats not what my nick means

t0t, thanks

but its all good if ppl think so

For lying

CometBaby, from supermarket

tits on table! =P

it wasnt political at all

-freetimer:#politics- Tim-bbl has been Shitlisted for disrespect!

5Disrespect Dont ever fucking lie about me, send him that message

wtd

Ill eat and consider reversing some bans when I get back

gop .. well the lemons came from the supermarket

no ft. eat and forget about that ban

how hard is it to grow lemons and oranges can it be grown in a backyard

hey cometbaby, disbelief asked me to ask you to pm him about what you posted since he got banned and can’t see it 9just a 3rd party messenger here)

depends on where you live

nite everyone, have a great election day tommorrow

huh oh

hmm bake ziti so so good

aloha

heh

so at what time will you people vote tomrrow

back, tuna fish sandwich and tea…. Ok, I will unban the people i banned, but I expect people to be more sensitive and not bring peoples personal issues up on channnel without their permission..

holy shit

i am going to have some dog sex and then me and my dog are voting against santorum

tomorrow is votin day

I already voted

1 pm pacific

Thats what /msg is for

You will only have ten minutes to cast your ballot

isn’t a coincidence that hussein is sentenced to death just b4 the elections… it’s not going to end the war though !

wtf?

around 1030 when the line is 1 or 2 people

abum, we already knew that

i need to vote for all republicans tmorrow

when did time limits for voting ever appear

Twobar included

suuure

haha

i am going to have some dog sex

sweet

gnarly !

voter fillabustering

abum what has rick done bad

he is anti dog sex

abum, poodle ? chiahuaha ?

abum, rick support tax cuts, he support the wall Twobar, a pitbull

poodles and chihuahuas are evil. All small dogs are. except like Jack Russells.

they arent dogs. They are rats

yeah, def. and those goddam chinese dogs

jack russells are too

the ugly ones

tweek_, why do men walk with small dogs

what is a Jack Russell

they need to dier die *

Chinese Sharpai

cats are evil, they make me sneeze.

some men in nyc, walk with small dog

but they make good gator bait

jack russell is a little terrior thing with no personality and all it can do thats cute is sproing up and down like a spring

men who walk with small dogs are gay

PrintRock, oh that make sense

i have a small dog right now

http://www.gentlegiantsrescue.com/images/Chinese%20crested%201%20640.jpg

only cause its like two weeks old

i think the gop should use gop in their get out the vote efforts

but its gonna be a big dog

a male holding a small dog while making effeminate gestures and having that obnoxious un-male lisp thing going on…he’s probably gay

have him call up everyone and argue with them

a pitbull

there are no telephones. so, no calling. You have no proof!

I did that for govenor race I did the phone banks

ok, I really gotta go to bed night.

Never again

fuck phone banks i swear to god if another motherfucker calls me

pop a cap in his ass

bill clinton is a fucking spammer

Umm. tuna Fish sandwich… meal of the gods.. With a little dolphin mixed in

and so many others

have fun with it, dehuman! when they ask if you will vote for their candidate, tell them only if they helpyou score some blow!

how cruel

so, the left may take Nica AND america?

freetimer, those poor dolphin

FreeTrade .. lol

Do people in here think its sick to eat horses ? Honest question I am curious, I am very much against cruelty to animals, but on this issue I am curious what people feel because its normal in many countries.

mmm mm chicken broth is good for the soul

For example in mexico they eat horses a lot.

eating horses and or dogs is barbaric, yes

Why ? Serioulsy

?

freetimer, how does hoarse taste like

I understand we have a cultural bias against it.

freetimer, I would not eat hoarse

because they aren’t a heard animal, and they are highly domesticated

But in Asia for example a dog is no different than a chicken or cow or pig

I’ve gotten a billion robot phone messages to vote for this scumbag or that.

Pigs are as smart as dogs. And can be as personable.

i’m rusty

IM rusty too

but they dont have to observe the do not call list do they ?

Swigert has a pig sitting in his lap right now

Twobar hahaha, I have not gotten ONE! haha

gawd ! freetimer, you’d have thunk I’d given them money or something, which I haven’t.

maybe it is just cultural superiority but i’m okay with that as a good reason.. many asian countries have a large part of their gdp derived from underage sex rings, i’m not okay with that just because it’s different, either

I am for one thing registered on the no call list are you ?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7236791207107726851&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en-CA

yes, I’m registerd on the ‘no call’ list too

all 82 minutes there for your viewing pleasure (or angst)

Iamking, Nope, I dont get HBO.

neither do I, but someone uploaded a copy onto Google Video

freetimer, dish network has it

I keep my land line ‘muted’ at all times. So I dont hear any of them. Thank gawd they havent called my cell phone or I’d be very upset

I am not; I consider my time valuable and I bill at my usual work rate to entertain a commercial pitch on my telephone equipment.

I just finished watching it

freetimer, I tought dishnetwork has hbo IamKing, did they speak of chavez

nope

singapore will lash you for grafitti but they seem okay with you having sex with a 9 year old runaway while eating lassie, so it’s just not something i like

If you are a for-profit telemarketer, you are NOT an Exempt Organization, even if you call consumers on behalf of an Exempt Organization, such as a non-profit. See, e.g., National Federation of The Blind v. FTC, 420 F.3d 331 (4th Cir. 2005). sweet

only covered US elections

GOP Dish has HBO, but you have to sign up for it.

then they didn’t do good research oh

You have to pay like $15 a month or so for it, Is it worth it ?

so i think they are probably not scrubbing against the do not call list If you are a for-profit telemarketer, you are NOT an Exempt Organization, even if you call consumers on behalf of an Exempt Organization, such as a non-profit. See, e.g., National Federation of The Blind v. FTC, 420 F.3d 331 (4th Cir. 2005). soryr

since I will not charge for less then a 3 hour min. for any job and as a pitch falls into that 3 hour window, My usual fee to entertain a commercial offer ranges about $180

even though they should be

newt is on greta. he sure got fat

no, HBO isn’t worth it…nor are any of the other premium channels

I dont find it to be.. I think A service like I use.. A movie service for 15 a month and pick my own movies.

freetimer, well it worth it if you can copy the movies to vhs

if the pitch provides entertainment I may at my descression wave some or all of this fee

And they send a movie the day I order it I get it the next day and when I send it back they get it the next day and resend

does hbo on dish let you copy movies to vhs dvd or such

So I usually get 6 movies a week. for $15

who are people using to do their calling?

netflix

volunteers or are they farming it out ?

gop, thats what my dad does. he has Dish wuth the povr, and a dvd recorder. dude has every movie you ever thought of seeing

Thats 15 a month

nytol

so its 24 a month yes its Netflix

TamaraB, what povr

pvr sorry

i wanna bring a class action lawsuit against bill clinton

commercial telephone calls provide a far more real, up close and direct entertainment then any other service currently offered, and there is always the possibilty to make moeny from it

for bothering me

it’s like dish networks built in tivo

netflix is like 5 bucks a month. cheapest plan

24 hand picked movies a month (more or less depending on how quickly I return them) and 15 dollars

Your phone number with the last four digits 3269 was registered in the National Do Not Call Registry on 6/29/2003. Most telemarketers will be required to stop calling you 31 days from your registration date. Your registration will (or did) expire on 6/30/2008.

Tamaras a punk shes a real punk rocker

oh those sons of bitches

NEVER turn down the opertunity to ruin someone else’s day

Print, yeah they have a cheap plan, 1 at a time. I get 2 at a time

hiya cry

political calls are not tele,arketing though

freetimer, what if the dvds get lost in the mail

yes they are

they are not selling anything

if they use a third party to call

raiders getting their ass kicked

if they pay someone to make the calls

I have dishes tivo, or DVR… yep

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/06/marines.iraq.shooting.ap/index.html

nope..you think that the slimy pols in office want to have that curtailed?

well you can;t play arizona every week

see, its not the subject matter of the call that makes it exempt or not

I record like the daily news every day

no way …no way

“To send these men to war to do a job and then imprison them for doing it is absurd,” the Web site states. “Why are they being subjected to less rights and freedom of movement than the very terrorists they put their lives on the line to protect the world from?” the site states.

its the people that make the call

that’s kind of an ironic statement given how many terrorists are being detained in prisons without getting a day in court and this guy just plead guilty in his court martial.

freetimer, how is dish tivo

i work in telecommunications

I record the 2 hour business block at 7am every saturday

i built autodialers

freetimer, can you record dish tivo to dvd

i know the rules in fact, i built an autodialer for a judge race in cleveland

and on sunday I record “Sunday with chris Wallace”

we have a candidate here named Holigan or somethign like that. every union loves her.

i gave it to him to run cause he was exempt we were not

gop, yep it’s easy . y dad even got all the andy griffith shows that way

If he has a partisan bone in his body I have never seen him reveal it.

wassup Tamara

I prefer the far shorter “Crook”

Not saying he doesnt, I am just saying I have never seen him reveal it.

when i was in iraq he sent me 3 or 4 movies a week he burnt

https://www.donotcall.gov/FAQ/FAQBusiness.aspx#ExemptOrg

don’t be cheating on me, crybaby

I couldnt guess for the life of me if he is conservative or democrat

MLV

FreeTimer records and plays back the Today Show segments with Al Roker…in slow motion hehe jk

i like chris wallace’s show

only thing is you see the starz of hbo or showtime logog in the corner like on tv

L0c0 haha

its fairly balanced

Tamara is prob married

I have directv. depends on your hard drive for space. or you can burn it to dvd

how old are ye Tamara?

20

hehe MLV same age as you

Twobar once had a partisan bone in his body

are you hot TamaraB

The problem wiht HBO is you have it for a month or 2 and you see their main movies for the next 6 months.

so anyway

it is so hard to get an original movie

i’m pretty sure we can sue people for spamming us

cheater.

Printrock…sheesh

h b blow

freetimer, so why do people on the left claim

if you are on the do not call list

no comment printrock

never curvy one

that chriswalace is a consertive

GOP, I dont know if they claim chris wallace is, do they ?

the object Print is to get more gals in here..not chase them off

im male. sue me

freetimer, alfraken and gang not all the left but those who support the outfoxed movie

I havent heard anyone claim it other than Clinton but Clinton was having a temper tantrum over a simple question and he lost it.. HE threatened to fire his staff on the way out.

Grande Alto Party!!!

I heard they found a dolphin with the remnants of back legs .. I think in Japan ??

gop means Grande Alto Fiesta

His rage against “The right wing media” was so hyped in his psyche that the first chance he had to go postal he did.

CB interesing… interesting

the japanese probably still ate it. if it comes from the ocean those little guys will eat it

Most leftwingers have no problems there.

ybaby

MLV

my friend was stationed in okinawa and she ate whale in a sushi bar

Who is it.. A couple democratic Senators who are there all the time Chuck Schumer is one. and who is the other guy, Joe Biden

woah..actually extremely interesting… did they save any of it??

They hever have a problem, ita always cordial and fair

cry .. http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/cp_g110402A.xml.html

Tamara, WW2 ?

dolphin with vestigial back legs needs to be scoped

the USA started japan on killing whales. when the USA occupied japan. i read

My dad was in Okinawa in WW2..

for food

He loves Japan. Before he got too old he would visit Japan every 2 years

my dad was in japan in the army in 1947

now he just goes to hawaii several times a year

My dad sailed into pearl harbor on dec 8th, 1941………he hated japan until the day he died

freetimer, no this was like 2000 i think, shes a lot older than me she was in the navy before she entered the army national guard

good…DNA testing

tamara haha, OH ok..

well…another blow fort the creationist crowd…

so does anyone know if these voting phone calls are being made by volunteers or whatever, or if they are being done by professionals

my Dad worked the recieving hospital in San Diego.

Im confusing time periods I guess.

n00b404, wow, a normal American…

My dad was in signal intelligence with the OSS.

cause if they are being done by professional list dialing people and such, we can sue them cause if they are being done by professional list dialing people and such, we can sue them bcause if they are being done by professional list dialing people and such, we can sue them/b

Later became the CIA Seriously

or even criminally bring charges against them

haha “Sgt. Hutchins ordered us to get on line,” Jackson testified. “Everyone fired rounds, including myself, but I fired my rounds above him. I knew he was going to be shot, but I didn’t want to be the one to do it.”

well the ftc can anyway

er -haha

nice firm curvies

dehuman………actually political calls are exempt from “do not call lists”

one of Donovan’s boys

n00b I tried to explain that

incorrect

n00b404, nice….

you are wrong it depends on who does the calling, not what the call is about

the pols deliberately excluded themselves

if they are done by a for-profit agency the calls are not exempt, political or not

dehuman…nope

sorry pal read the rules

pollsters are not telemarketers

https://www.donotcall.gov/FAQ/FAQBusiness.aspx#ExemptOrg

I did…

dehuman……….actually, very correct, the first amendment, which does include phone calls was written for POLITICAL speech

If you are a for-profit telemarketer, you are NOT an Exempt Organization, even if you call consumers on behalf of an Exempt Organization

has anyone in this hat room ever been polled. ?

If you are a for-profit telemarketer, you are NOT an Exempt Organization, even if you call consumers on behalf of an Exempt Organization

I have…

chat\

5 times in last 2 weeks

those are the rules period

I was but could not answer the poll

pollsters do not deal in profit…

I have never been polled, probably because I hang up as soon as they start talking

it was “press 2″ so I dailed 2

thus they get around the ban

and it hung up

thats what i wanna know

i voteed since 1976. never been polled

I enjoy the polls…

dehuman………you are wrong, but dont worry, they are volunteer callers

you get a chance to fuck their polls up

what about the autodialers the recordings of bill clinton and such

i never get telemarketing calls and i never signed up for any list. I just get people calling about changing their doctors appointment because my number is like a digit off a doctors office number

come on i know bill

so i say no problem come in whenever ya can

Got one of the auto-dialers from Ehrlich tonight.

its the economy stupid…. of course, an “R” in president…. so no credit given…

he doesn’t smile without cash

printrock - exit polling takes a pretty small sample, so that’s not surprising. I’ve always wanted to be exit polled.

im on the no call list

you are telling me bill clinton just donated his voice ?

*is

disbelief no need to do so unless you agree with them Duffles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dehuman……….as i said, political parties are non profit entities, hence are exempt

CryHavoc, hi nancy….

read the rules pal https://www.donotcall.gov/FAQ/FAQBusiness.aspx#ExemptOrg

of course..no rule saying you have to be polite to them

geeeez

disbelief are you a male or female?

dehuman……….i took that off of your own web site

If you are a for-profit telemarketer, you are NOT an Exempt Organization, even if you call consumers on behalf of an Exempt Organization (such as political partiles)

The Do Not Call list doesn’t apply for political parties.

BERLIN, Germany (Reuters) — Iraq, racked by violence since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion, and impoverished Haiti, Myanmar and Guinea are ranked as the most corrupt countries in the world in a new survey.

can’t tell y your nick

duffsterr…wtf is nancy??? you cheating on me?

omg

The CIA tried to recruit my dad full time but he said no way.. Ive done my term, Im gone..

you ignorant retards

CryHavoc, haha….

or maybe it was after law school when they tried to recruit him again, Hmm I forget..

I see a freeway in yer future duffsterr

man he could have got in at the ground level in the beginning

CryHavoc, no listening to the biased media…….. nbc, cbs, abc….

the fuck it doesnt, the do not call list can and does apply to politically based calls if they are made by a for profit telemarketer

duffsterr….feh!!!!

i bet Bush 41 found out more stuff as head of the cia than as president

Parents.. YOU have to learn what you can about them when you can, before you know it they are gone.

dehuman……….you want to name call, enjoy talking to yourself, i wont respond to you again

CryHavoc, you think????? lol

and the agency charged w/ dealing w/ oversight in Iraq’s reconscrution is axed by the US congress after doing its job and finding MANY MANY examaples of fraud and corruption well

I see enough BS on own…without tuning into it

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7236791207107726851

it seems that Iraq is learning ALL about how a gov’t SHOULD work afterall they are our best pupil

like i care, with your poor understanding, even after being presented with clear information to the contrary of your thinking

IamKing - what did you think of it ?

IamKing, niiiiiiiice……..

n00b how appropriate

well even if I did get politically ads, I never answer a telephone.

very damning, as I knew it would be

I let my secretary answer it.

See BS Alwways Bs Constantly Numbing Bs Constantly

My digital one

the three nutworks ABC NBC and CBS all they have in common is the BS

IamKing - yeah. i downloaded it. gonna watch. i wish i had known it was on google video before.

Im the type of guy who could live happily in tahiti living in a grass hut with no telephone.. uIm the type of guy who could live happily in tahiti living in a grass hut with no telephone.. /u

downloaded it from where? which book is that?

iamking - isohunt i think.

In fact that would be paradise.

I wanna see russert with his chalkboard on tuesday

unabridged dictionary?

Grimwades gold marks

H B BLOW…… niiiiiiice…. dipshit Dan Rather …….

i just want to see republicans eek out a victory enough to be scared of their base for the next 2 years, and yet deny pelosi her big office so that her head explodes all over Harry Reid

And no running water?

about the same size

don’t know it lol

okay, i just turned it off…

its a specialty book

btw, WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY! thanks for the call………

hehe

it IDs English Silver/Goldsmith markings

that would be funny to see

freetimer……..i dont want to live in a grass hut, i work hard to enjoy luxuries, and want to continue to do that

the founding fathers HATED DEMOCRACY……. thanks…….

as far as political speech and do not call lists

what about the internet? :P

so as I can ID silver

Democrats left and right committing suicide over the failure to capture either house in Congress the = their

iamking, honestly, if the dems blow this one, they will rip themselves to pieces and republicanscan waltz into 2008

heheheh

it’s that important

I could live without the internet.. I mean as long as I am in civilization I will partake of its pleasures..

tamara………i want the GOP to continue to control both houses, and continue tax cuts and building fences

Tamara…or dems get hose and self destruct faster

But if I was in paradise I could forget about the internet and modernity quickly bBut if I was in paradise I could forget about the internet and modernity quickly/b

the GOp will do no such thing

democrats envision something like the 94 massacre, only democrat. not going to happen

even better, I want them to enact The FairTax Act of 2005 :P

they could not even craft a sane immigration bill

Tahiti is very expensive.

IamKing ***SHOCK!!!

can I get an “amen!”? :P

dems are going to lose two house seats, the lt gov ship and the sec of state job in georgia

iamking………..amen to fairtax

you are for the FairTax??

n00b404, gooofffffy….. it just promotes the fact that 1992 was a ficade… thank you Ross Perot……..

so maybe were bucking the trend but i hope not

IamKing..your coffers will be emptied…..

indeed…but disappointedly, freetimer is not

listen, you have the right to gather in the town square and rally around your candidate, you do not have the right to call my telephone number and bother me in the middle of dinner - i’m not saying you cant do that, but you certainly dont have a *right* to do that - its not protected

torus - the Generic Congresssional Ballot is putting the democrats up by over 10 points this year, in 1994, before the republican ‘revolution’ it was at 7 points.

and more regicide will occur!!!

OH NOES! I am so rich that the poor will drain me dry!

fair tax is the only way sanity will ever return to washington dc

IamKing..it takes time….

what does?

so i read

getting silked?

convincing peeps of the fairtax

Early voting here in El Paso was huge. It had its highest turnout ever at about 10% of the registered voters in the country casting ballots. Early voting here in El Paso was huge. It had its highest turnout ever at about 10% of the registered voters in the country casting ballots.

What’s fair tax?

n00b404, WOW! AMEN! PROMOTE IT!!! I WILLLLL! LOL www.fairtax.org

tortus - apparnetly its been a pretty accurate predictor of electoral results.

during the 2004 presidential election turnout was 19%

isnt that amazing…

I read the book 3 times before I was convinced

so i read

Oh great. #politics is becoming a hang out for fences.

duffsterr…ugo man

mrrod……..a national sales tax to replace federal income tax, ss taxes, and most business taxes

Elections officials are predicting a voter turnout of 25% haha

what I don’t get is that we as a country had LIVED just FINE without that communistic income tax for the first 150+ years of this country’s existence

www.fairtax.org

MrRod, have you read the FAIRTAX book….

LOL

we get boortz everyday down here so i like the fairtax, not quit as much as my idea for 10% flat tax, but it’s good enough

that’s sad when 25% voter turnout is considered something to celebrate about

anythings better than what we got

MrRod…taxing consumption…not labor/capital

Works for me. I’d make a killing on that.

yet people think that we cannot live without it…which is just ignorant and stupid

cryhavoc - i’d like to see some sophisticated economic modelling of the fairtax.

MrRod, it is very very very simple and fair…….

ban Motors pls

MrRod…yep

tamara……..the flat tax would be better than what we have, but it would have to be 15%

i just heard on npr (npr!) that the turnout in calif is expected to be 65%

wow

Sales tax is totally regressive.

tortus, yeah, and they are all LEGAL…. isnt that amazing……..

tortus, that’s high for CA

Motors 3is banned (Requested by CryHavoc - Reason: get out and stay out )

mrrod……… money doesnt fit well under a mattress………it ends up invested, and that makes a killing for all of us

n00b, not after my non defense spending orgy of cut programs. i’d whittle the non defense federal payroll to like 5000

FedUp, amen, its pathetic…….

thx panini

lots of issues in calif

Sure. Makes the poor pay their fair share. And why not? They use all the services.

Mrrod!

no prob

and such a better solution

tortus - basically anybody who is upset that they were conned into voting for Bush in 04 now has a chance to partially make up for it by putting the opposition party in power to check him. utortus - basically anybody who is upset that they were conned into voting for Bush in 04 now has a chance to partially make up for it by putting the opposition party in power to check him./u

Hello my man

fedup………the bottom 50% of income earners only pay 4% of federal revenues now, talk about regressive

Hi.

time to take things back to what actually WORKED

MrRod..the Fairtax in exxence…untaxes the poor

hows your tile ?

instead of continuing a total flop

How do you figure that?

disbelief. calif is historically conservative, in the populated areas

due to a monthly prebate check covering taxes up to the poverty level…for EVERYONE

Warm and in its box.

yeap… PREEEEEEEE-BATES… which is inevitable down the road… the left is over……..

MrRod…they who spend pay the tax…they who do not do not…

even the last popular democrat governor in my state (zell miller) is endorsing the republican incumbent governor and the republican congressional ticket

Tile is like wine. You have to let it settle on the shelf for a while before it’s good.

tortus - that’s not true, the suburbs and rural areas are conservative, but the large urban areas trend liberal.

mrrod……..the fair tax gives a subsidy to everyone equal to poverty spending on sales taxes, essentially rebating all their taxes

also MrRod no more cap gains tax either

orange county is conservative. that is los angeles

and the Fairtax plays NO favorites at all

bigest metro

Exactly. It’s great!

do you want the US to actuall attract not only home-grown businessmen to keep their own companies here while also attracting foreign businesses to place their HQ’s here? if so, then pressure your congressmen to pass The FairTax Act of 2005

tamara - that’s because Zell IS a republican, essentially.

So what would be “fair”? To have poorer people pay MORE in taxes than rich people?

thus no pol can use tax favors for votes

no, he’s a old school democrat

Sock it to those who use the services to begin with.

what is so goofy and will happen before i die is just a simple check given to welfare recipients monthly…….. Charles Murray is so correct…

the democrats went far left

FedUp..that would not be the case

FedUp - that’s basically what they’re saying, yes.

they would not pay more

iamking……..latest poll i seen said only 64 of the 538 people that have a vote on fair tax support it

IamKing…there is an affliction here at times… I call it “Staring with closed Eyes”

most ppl favor that….. omg, personal responsibility….. holy shit…. :o

he wrote a book about how the democratic party was hijacked by leftwing nutjobs like nancy pelosi and howie dean

proportionally, they would actually pay less than they do now

it goes with looking thru Eyegalss in reverse IamKing the poor would essentially be Untaxed recessions would be a memory

bottom line is that anyone who thinks taxes are too high should pay more themselves……….and please leave my paycheck and wallet alone

right, the prebate would cover what the poor would pay in FairTaxes up to the poverty level

Tamara - Zell Miller isn’t “old school” he’s “washed up” and now his forte is acting crazy and threatening news anchors

Where is Eugene V. Debs when you need him?

you got it and if they are too poor to buy anything else…no more tax

I finished reading Boortz’s book last week :P

mrrod eugene debs could save our nation

great and easy read

IamKing about time!!!!

n00b404, uhhhh duhhh, amen, we have freedom to GIVE MORE MONEY TO GOVERNMENT.. isnt that amazing… the media hates that…….. it’s so pathetic…..

disbelief, zell could get elected statewide to any post tommorrow just by putting his name on the ballot..he’s that popular here. meanwhile the left’s champion jimmy peanutbrain carter, is a laughingstock statewide

I was harassing peeps about that months ago

I’ve been visiting Boortz’s site for several months Nealz Nuze heh

TamaraB - i seriously doubt that. Have you seen his speech at the 2004 RNC ?

duffster………the media, the liberals, the free thinkers dont want to use their money, they want to use ours

the only losers from the Fiar tax would be the IRS…and some accountants

he needs to set up an RSS feed for his commentaries for the day

cryhavoc……MOST accountants

disbelief, uhhhhhhhhh August 6th and 9th must have been Zell Miller-LIKE……….. from another Democrat….. woww……….

no, but i know he;s the most popular politician in the state and isn;t running for anything

IamKing the fed fairtax is just the start

I’m out. Aus!

indeed

iamking is in the movie apocalypto

meanwhile jimmy carter can;t leave the carter center without being ridiculed

California will be the next target

When is it coming out?

but a MUCH needed 1st step to reforming the federal government from its pinko infection

and the other 43 states with state income tax

And of course there is no explicit abolishment of the IRS within the FairTax proposal

icmp…wrong….

Prove it?

n00b404, NIMBY…. amen….. no sacrifice…….

icmp…….the 16th amendment is repealed, that eliminates the mission of the IRS

mrrod december 8

Uh

IRS funding would be removed by 2009

The fairtax bill doesnt repeal the 16th amendment

at this time it is a separate HR bill

HR 25

Like that’s going to happen…

cry - what taxrate would you use for the “fair tax” ?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/11/6/1717/68014

but the IRS going away is a linchpin of the Fair tax

Exactly- It’s seperate

disbelief, 78%

disbelief, 23%

disbelief……. 23 cents

disbelief…23%

haha

it is currently recommended at 23% as an *inclusive* tax rate

I wouldn’t be so quick to trust your political leaders.

isnt that amazing………

this tax would REPLACE the already imbedded taxes in the things you buy

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