11.29.07
wouldnt you want something like 60 or so virgins and about a dozen seasoned professionals so you could just get
at least publicly….hehehe….privately, it’s another story…..
never heard of david kuo before though
error that is
CBS) David Kuo is an evangelical Christian and card-carrying member of the religious right, who got a job in the White House in the president’s Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives. He thought it was a dream-come-true: a chance to work for a president whose vision about compassionate conservatism would be matched with sweeping legislation to help the poor.
I also don’t know who David Kuo is.
Pat Robertson has indeed proven himself to be a wingnut. But when the dems inevitably win the presidency for awhile, they likely have a few “same only different” wingnuts waiting in their closet.
the difference is that the democrats can’t admit that jesse jackson/Sharpton are racist biggots
Kuo saw through the hypocrisy and decided to speak out about same.
Turba, you don’t know what “he thought”
What is torture???? and Just what is Poor????
As correspondent Lesley Stahl reports, he also says the White House was a place that cynically used religion for political ends and that White House aides ridiculed the very Christian leaders who helped bring Mr. Bush to office.
plusplusc, that rings true as I remember
Kuo spoke his thoughts on last Sunday’s 60 Minutes airing.
interesting, I guess his dreams were shattered pretty quickly
bush is no more envangalistic than kerry
I don’t have to know what he thought. He TOLD us what he thought.
Turba, and that somehow gives him validity?
I don’t think Jackson/Sharpton are so much racist as they are shameless opportunists. The net result may be the same, but they aren’t racist in the same vein as some more extreme black leaders are.
Poor = fly’s bloated stomach no food drinking water from gutter I dont think we have very many poor in America we have people that dont have but most poor are fat have a roof and a tv
Bush isn’t evangalistic at all.
ahhh……he’s another liar, eh ? (As is anyone who speaks out against this administration….
3Abusive domain or user
Torture = breaking bones cutting off things burning elec shock on nuts etc. not cold room water boarding
Turba, you are getting annoying, don’t put words in my mouth, if you want to quote me, fine.
SweetLeaf, meh, there are families that statistically don’t have enough food to eat, but I guess I don’t know how those statistics were formed.
What the fuck
fuck the fruit area
But you see young children in africa that is poor
Torture != playing led zeppelin and having good looking women in bikini’s bring you your dinner
the only reason I am annoying you is that I toss your conservative bullshit right back in your face with facts. Deal with it.
lol.. yea, THAT”s it *rolls eyes*
did you ever see that onion article about poverty? one of the top five indicators was apathy to flies, heh
“we do chicken right”
Some of the things that geniva conventions have defined as torture are a bit silly, like force feeding someone who’s starving themselves
…Great. I wanted to go play basketball today and it’s snowing. 
PO that sucks
But they keep talking poor in usa katrina was very bad but them people did not starve or go with out food for very long
P_O so, you want a snowball? lol
I hate snow
Turba, 3you are devoiced (Requested by TheTailor - Reason: Ask and you shall receive, this is how I’m dealing with it. )
Rebec, what I get for being lazy
I’m cool with snow, kind of have to be in Colorado.
wasn’t Steve Martin a poor black child?
pilgrim` lol rofl, that movie is great
I hate snow
SweetLeaf, very few places can touch the fucked upness that happens in the lower classes in Africa.
The jerk
we seldom get snow. it just rains here for 6 months/year
PO yeah I know, Michigan is kind of that way as well
I lived in korea for 2 years you can have snow
Although, just because the poor in the US does however much better than other places, it would be nice if the stats for families without enough food went down, etc.
there is no reason for anyone in America to go hungry
I once saw a home film; it showed a TV preacher filming a “Oh send us money” segment ina village, with Sally Struthers doing a teray “send us money” in the same viollage same time
Well, one of the few social programs that I DO agree with, is the EBT food stamp program
teary
not with a Dollar burger you can get a buck anywhere
kObUSHI i AGREED WITH THE original PROGRAM WHICH USED usda SURPLUS PRODUCE TO FEED THE POOR
SweetLeaf, usually the way “you get a buck anywhere” is by doing something illegal
PO speakth truth
or work
pilgrim` yeah the paper stamps were a bad deal, people could trade them for drugs/etc
Some people can have a randomly hard time getting a job. (And some can be lazy.)
but the EBT is much better, it’s like a credit card
Kobushi yeah I knew a midwife in MI who took stamps
but only works for food pilgrim` hehe
KoBushi in this state they can use t at ATMs
pilgrim` oh? well that’s not good
ya think?
people want to wash your car in the grocery store parking lot you give them a buck just to get rid o them
in TN and here in NC they only work for food items… if you try to put even toilet paper on it, won’t go
heres a buck go away its easy we feed the poor and drunks all the time
I saw a drunk put into an ambulance last night.
I don’t give beggers money
He was bleeding for some reason.
I love the one hey man I got my family we ran out of gas can you spare a buck
SweetLeaf, yeah. SweetLeaf, my mom has given money on that one, but she knew he was lying.
SweetLeaf some woman a few months ago told me she needed $25 to buy some tampons
or the one that looks like he may kill you for a buck
hand him a hose and say he can have a gallon
if yo wont give heh
I pretty much always give money. If they try to con me I give less.
pilgrim up your nose with a rubber hose
And sometimes I remark on it.
heh, I did once have a guy come up to me and ask to borrow a tenner so he could buy diesel for his truck, apparently kids had stuffed toilet paper in the tank and blocked the fuel system, and he’d spent all his money on a new filter
I like to look at them crazy. and pull out a bowie knife
I hit a fucker a few months ago in the grocery store he got ruff with me he was on crack or sumthing I cained him heh
to be fair, he was wearing an oily boiler suit and smelling very strongly of diesel…
smacked him good
One day a woman asked my dad for $0.25 while we were working going up and down a ladder, and he told her he’d give her fat ass $5 if she went up the ladder and carried the rest of our stuff down
gordonjcp, rofl.
she just got mad and walked away lol
I haev been street poor before. flat broke and no home… Been there…I NEVER ONCE BEGGED!!!
kobushi was her ass fat
redfish mostly
thing is he wanted an address to send it back, I thought nah, fuck it
she wasn’t like morbidly obese but she was fat
give it to someone else that needs it
geggers PISS ME OFF beggers
gordonjcp, exactly.
and specially grown men
pilgrim` the thing that makes me mad is the people who MAKE A LIVING being beggers
I don’t mind beggars at all.
yep
In some cities they are even organized
I used to watch GI’s in korea put a lighter on a 1 won coin and throw it out of the back of the truck and laugh at the kids when they burned their fingers I thought they were cruel
pilgrim`: … who stand about 100 yards from a building site begging for money *HELLO*!
PO I hqave as I said been poor. I knew a lot of street people. the beggers are the low of the low
use some fucking *INITIATIVE*!
the begger gang?
People can do bad things
pilgrim`, I’d bet.
@#$$#%%^^%&*
they have beggers unions that will orchestrate were people beg in exchange for a cut of the $, and will bail them out of jail/etc when need be
I’m not saying they’re the greatest people ever. But they don’t piss me off.
there is honor on the street. personal honor. Those filth have none
I grew up with not much like tobaco road shit but we always had something
p_o beggars seem to get angrier when you say you cant give than when you just ignore them
we used to steal chickens in Pomona
ever heard Dylans Rollign Stone?
does begger gang/union has a leader?
When ya ain’t got nuthin ya got nuthin ta loose
???
I have been working all my life have never asked for a hand out from anyone I got my pride
I just steal money from my friends.
sweetleaf pride is a sin :
We have a communist thing going on for the most part.
well I got it
*shrug* I’ve asked for help at times when I have needed it… but not from random strangers
Maybe that is what the usa needs a little more pride
maybe the usa needs more humility
Like our soldiers they have pride
one of my best friends and I have 20 quid that one of us is owe the other
And when I did ask for help, it wasn’t for $, but for help finding a job, or etc
fuck off
gordonjcp, heh.
one of us really was owe the other 20 quid at some point, but over the course of nearly 20 years we’ve lost track of who it was
rag the usa I dont have to talk to you
so if I needed some cash, I’d say to my mate “Have you got that 20 quid I lent you?” or vice versa
go to some other country that is better cant find it
gordonjcp, little anamolies that occur in long lasting friendships like that kick ass.
you were ragging the usa, you were implying the usa was deficient in not having enough pride i didnt say anything worse
yup
people want things given to them for free these days
So far my longest lasting friend is only of 7 years (excluding adult friends of mine who count more as family)
no work ethic
my longest lasting friend is 20 years
I got one friend known him since I was 2
My longest friends in general are my mom’s friends that knew me before I was me. But they are basically aunts.
I recently got back in contact with some freinds of mine I haven’t seen in 11 years
only thing that counts is family and country
I would say my oldest longest lasting friend is about 15 years…. and he is on here…. Freetrade
another shooting in a school in texas what the fuck is going on
ban schools
You see.
ban idiots
We teenagers meet once a year to see what schools are going to be shot.
watch they will blame the gun
We’ve just been delaying the meeting for a few years.
wabbit pissed someone off
It would appear that school shootings are becoming a popular method of suicide
SweetLeaf, got a link by the way? KoBushi, except if you’re going to kill your self, you should just do it without taking out other people.
school shooting is a trend
P_O apparently some people disagree
I honestly believe it is a symptom of a culture that glorifies violence
rumbleca, possibly.
some ppl are pussy’s and cant do themselves they watch stupid movies and think they will have glory
I can’t do my self either, it’s a physical impossibility.
there’s a website that has diagrams
if I got some shit and am going to die I can do myself easy big loaded shot of skagg
The only reason I’d ever kill my self is if I thought I wrongfully killed someone, and since I’m not planning on killing anyone, I doubt it’s going to happen.
despair is a good reason to kill yourself
Well I dont beleave in heaven so I dont care
most people don’t despair to that level,thankfully
stupidity is a good reason, take yourself out of the gene pool
SweetLeaf, I don’t believe in heaven either.
lol Rebec
if you are going to go.. go out with STYLE!
Kobushi
like rent a monster truck and go destroy 50 exotice sportscars
Why suffer I dont make my pets suffer
Rebec unfortunately in modern society, the less intelligence and education a perso has the more likely they are to reproduce as compared to those with high levels of intelligence and education
Heaven actually sounds pretty shitty to me.
say, dress up as Barney and jump off a bridge
Kobushi I know, gordonjcp probably has 40 kids
Lupine, and try to land on a mini-van with kids in it?
we just go where we go when we sleep
or this - http://bash.org/?488793
where ever the fuck that is I dont dream who wants to live over 80 not me
someone mind asking Rebec why he/she thinks I have 40 kids?
for example, Kirk Kurbain was a pussy.. he should have been live on stage.. recording it.. when he killed himself.. the ultimate expression for an artist
gordonjcp, that’s awesome.
I dont even think 70 looks all that good
nooOOOo I don’t have a gun.. noooOO… whoops.. i guess I do have a gun.. *BANG*
sweetleaf my mom says if she has to go to a nursing home she is going to use an earful of lead
Lupine, snuff concert.
instead
Rebec, that’s a bad way to off your self.
SweetLeaf I’d like to live forever if I could stay like I am now at 26
You have a chance of just turning into a vegetable.
are you still ignoring me?
good way to go out is take a shot gun and blow your head off on someones poarch you dont like heh
PO I’m just telling you what my mom said lol sweetleaf lol make them a suspect?
big mess
true
ever see it man
big mess
wow everywhere
not up close
I need to find something to eat in this house.
P_O just cut off a hunk of lard
my neighbor did himself
she thinks you are sexy
we found him
KoBushi, I like my lard though sunaaaa
still would like to know why she thinks I’ve got 40 kids
gordonjcp, was a joke.
first smoke o the day
cuz dumb people have lots of kids, that was the joke
no idea what rumble is talking about but if I am the she, I think gordon is a microcephalic troll hence he is on my ignore list
ah, childish ad-homs, the last refuge of the USian right
I hate big words heh
ok, thanks rebec, that was a confusing escapade finally finished
sweetleaf lol rumble it wasn’t confusing at all really
so I guess I could stoop to the same level, but no
rumble but I know you weren’t here for a lot of it I think so I can see where it would be
I dont stoop to no one I am one o them that will quit a job if I think I am right have told many customers to fuck off
although I do know someone with (last I heard) 24 children that’s the religious right for you
impressive, living together? or scattered with the wind
nope same mother even
I know a guy with 3 wives and about 25 kids as well wow, very impressive
when I was at school, one set of twins was in my year
watch big love heh big deal we got foley heh
at one stage they had at least one child in every year of education, from P1 to Honours I shit you not
that’s fairly dumb too 3 wives, didn’t he learn after the first one?
heh hahaha
3 wives at the same time!
I like my wife… she’s so great I want 2! lol
why woud you want 3 fuck
sweet for real
muslim thing
rumble well they can have 4 but they have to treat them equally, it’s hard for them and plus PMS^3 would be hell
I would be more then happy to sire more kids…if someone else will please raise them. Any hubbies out there needing a set of horns?
in school a girl I knew , who was 16 had a 50 year old brother, I thought that was nuts, but there were only 8 or 9 kids in total
Kobushi lol pil lol
I am not an islamic scholar but I heard differing opinions on that
pil you have a whole collection of horns
was at a friend’s 60th a couple of weeks ago
rumble on treating them equally?
some muslims, perhaps the more educated I don’t know, believe it is only valid to have more than 1 wife if your first wife is unable to bear children
or on having up to 4? or the PMS?
I went to school with her daughter (few months older than me) and her younger sister (about a year older than me)
in a manner of speakign.
rebec; yes, plus treating them exactly equally
rumble I’ve mostly heard that modern Muslims for the most part don’t believe in having more than one wife rumble but I don’t know really, how that is practiced
I have had the same wife for 30 yrs either she is doing something right or she is a real bitch I dont want another
My Muslim friends tell me it is viewed as taboo to have more than one wife, but that they still have to treat them equally
someone want to tell Rebec that of all my Muslim friends and neighbours, none of them have more than one wife come to that, none of them have more than one husband
Sultan Abdul Aziz; had well over 1800 aknowledged offspring: some 400 wives and another 1000 concubines
I think the four wives thing has very much gone by the wayside
UBL has lots o wifes
sweetleaf yeah like what 44? no wait that’s the kids
heh he loves them
I think that’s true rebec, in the modern arabic cities you wouldn’t find many cases of polygamy. in the countryisde it still happens I think
long time
Maurice de Saxe; bastard son of the Elector of Mavaria and later Marshal of France sired his 1st son age 13
anyway rumble I don’t know how it is currently practiced but I can only tell you what I have been told by people that live in that society
Bavaria that is 16th cent he wrote a facinating work on military tactics
where do they live?
Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, UAE and Kuwait
died age 54 of some plauge
stupid plague
hmm, interesting
if I have to look at Polosie as spkr I will leave the country Heh
oh and I could ask my Moroccan friend about it, but I just never have I always ask about stuff like that if I read it and it sparks my interest like that has always made me wonder lol
Rebec Hal tatakallam al-lugha al-Arabiya?
more than one wife sounds like hell, I asked my Egyptian friend why martyrs get 72 virgins
polyandry should be a more common thing.
he said it’s 72 wives
So far as I know it’s mainly done in Tibet.
I said that sounds like hell po polyandry sounds pretty damn good lol…I could be spoiled
72 virgins would be more trouble than it’s worth
pilgrim lol I don’t speak arabic so it’s in English
ins’allah
well they have it easy all they have to do is say the magic word 3 times and she is gone
Rebec, I don’t really mind polyandry/polygamy and I don’t get why other people do.
P_O polyandry happaned a lot in midevial russia to I belive
devorice
PO you are young
pilgrim`, you’re kidding.
Polygamy and polyandry seem like too much trouble
no judge needed
pil
I have had so many various….experiences…
polygamy covers both people
72 virgins, the training budget alone would ruin you
PO you are young
yeah you do pil
Katey-, well individually I can see that, but I don’t get what the US social problem is with it.
Polygamy is having multiple spouses… doesn’t specify male or female
I know.
I once lived with 4 guys and 1 gal
wouldn’t you want something like 60 or so virgins and about a dozen seasoned professionals, so you could just get started right away?
it lasted a while
Should I have said polygyny?
polyandry is specifically more than one man though
Rebec right
P_O, well, religious and really, probably also the legal and practical headaches that might be associated with it
but then, she could cook
I’m not sure it requires marriage though
Rebec hum, I’m not sure either, maybe not
well religiously is moot since concubines and multiple wives were allowed
oh and …she was as ugly as the north end of a south bound mule
‘course if a lot of women live together their menstrual cycles pull into sync
they dont know how to fuck so they need a new one everytime
pilgrim lol
I have some friends who have an “open” marriage no THAT I find much more strange than polygamy
swingers
so you’d end up with 72 women all on their bad week, you’d need a truck for all the “supplies”
KoBushi aka “shopping”
kobushi that is kind of strange
KoBushi, I agree
I can understand wanting multiple spouses…
KoBushi, yeah, I have some acquaintances who do that too.
I know someone who tried that in their marriage
I don’t really understand wanting to marry someone and then each of yu just go off and fuck random people
it ended up being a big complicated mess
72 virgens on the rag
KoBushi, if it works for people than it works.
you would actually need an emergency aid flight
Katey I don’t either, but every woman who agreed to be with me and be mine……did
katey it just strikes me as stange
Now, if they had sex TOGETHER with other people, that I could understand too
No no no, it’s ONE 72 year old virgin, everyone gets that wrong.
I guess it would keep your sex life fresher for a lot longer if you’re doing other people, but other than that I don’t really get the point either.
jobushi lol tt no it’s 72 wives according to my egyptian friend
But it’s like… why get married if you are just going to go off alone anyway? lol
Kobushi even lol
I have come to the cnclusion that playing aroudn is normal human behavior
maybe they want to be married for other reasons? pilgrim probably
Rebec I suppose
that little shit in korea likes 13 yr olds he has an army o them to play with
KoBushi, variety of sex + a partner you actually love? That’d be my guess.
I thought the whole 72 virgins was a mistranslation or misunderstanding or something…that it’s actually 72 raisins
california raisins?
katey lol well my egyptian friend said it’s 72 wives and that the virgins is a misunderstanding lol
what benefit does it give to have many spouses` ?
Katey-, are they FDA certified raisins?
72 sweaters
rebec well only virgins make proper wives thats the point
lots of sons to kill the infidel
rumbleca, hehe
4 wives is a lot, anybody seen that chinese movie raise the red lantern?
redfish lol
good movie about polygamy in a traditional sense
rumble 4 wives would be hell I was serious, your friend having 3 I think is insane
Trying to keep four wives/husbands happy would be a lot of work
I don’t think I’d have the capacity to be with more than two women.
katey yeah
afaik, chinese only made two kinds of movies
PO 2 is a lot I’d think
Well, without them hating me anyway.
the only bad part about multple wives would be the whole menstral cycle synching thing
Kobushi yeah that’d be evil
I have tried it all done that, now, I live with a teen son and a old cat we are putting down tomorrow…and that is the LAST woman in my life!
KoBushi, you really think that would be the only bad thing?
Katey- hmm… yep
pilgrim`, aww. Why are you putting down the cat?
Think of all those women wanting an emotionally fulfilling relationship with you …and there’s only one of you
celibacy beats the headaches…
Katey- sweet
PO old.. has cancer…is in pain
some girls don’t mind sex during menstration, maybe its the guys issue
pilgrim`, ah. Good man.
rumble probably a man issue
rumbleca, most just think it’s gross
PO my kid grew up witht his cat. and is an only child. tis a shame
but don’t really care about it more than that.
rumbleca my wife is tottaly opposed to it
why’s that?
kobushi my husband is totally opposed to it
rumbleca I don’t know exactly, she just thinks it’s gross
it’s an individual thing, no physiological reason
Katey- I like spending time with people, I have no problem being involved in emotionally fullfilling situations
WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid paid cash for a $750,000 condo at the Ritz-Carlton where he lives. But when it comes to giving the doorman and other support staff Christmas bonuses, he’s been using campaign donations instead of his own money. Federal election law bars candidates from converting political donations for personal use.
I found out….computers, a good book,fishing, target shooting, riding a bicycle, a long walk, reading a book. all beat the HELL out of 10-20 minutes of mucus membrane friction and a life of bitching that goes with it I put book twice…but then, I read a lot
10-20 minutes? damn no wonder you couldn’t keep a wife pilgrim`
pilgrim`, but what about a few hours?
i dont’ like people at least not in any kind of romatic situations women = blah
L0c0 loves the cock
i’ve resolved to just live and die alone haha no
kobushi lol
but having ED makes things crappy
you mean that’s not normal?
Rebec eh, well I dunno what the “average” is… but 20 minutes is a quicky in my book
L0c0, nothing wrong with that.
20 mins for wht?
I learned long ago how to seduce. even women that cannot be seduced…or so they said… The knowledge of the how of it was somewhat depressing
n00b796 sex
It pisses me off when people say that you need love to survive or some retarded shit like that.
Kobushi mine too, but unfortunately others in my house think that’s a long time
oh..well, ok
man
this sucks
TAMPA, Florida (AP) — Movie actor Wesley Snipes, star of “White Men Can’t Jump” and the “Blade” films, was indicted Tuesday on eight counts of tax fraud accusing him of trying to cheat the government of $12 million in false refund claims.
pil tell her it’ll hurt her spouse the most?
pilgrim`: what do you mean?
brb
Rebec yep
Snipes faces a maximum of 16 years in prison.
pil awww
never “tell” her, lead her to tell herself
pilgrim lol
L0c0 heh, that tard
and lead her to tell herself it’s ok I need to go see you guys later
L0c0 he robably hired a pencil pusher who told him it was all ok
bye rebec pilgrim`: I still have no idea what you are talking about
Sammy Davis Jr, Red Fox, Willie. so many many more and Wesley now….
seducing married women?
rumbleca yes. I was
ah, ok. sexually frustrated ones? or what
no basically, a technique I discovered worked. always worked, and probably would still work but I no longer play that game
Mystery Method?
no
hah got their damn mexican music turned off next door (construction workers building new house)
actually rather simple
next step get it turned off all over this development
hmm, well I can imagine, women aren’t that complicated. neither are men
I am installing osx86 in vmware for I am uberdork !@#%
pilgrim`: well sounds interesting, but I’m glad you are finished, if it was in fact an addiction of some kind for you
dunno why i’m wasting my time with this crap, all i’m gonna find out is that hardware support is limited and del it all
rond, what’s wrong with latino music?
in their own home they pay for np
I like a lot of latino music
when they do not live here and they turn it up for the whole block bp (big problem)
not all, tho that’s a noise problem
n00b801, I’m a latin jazz fan my self.
rumbleca at one time, when I was yonger, I was mad as hell at women. I had been cheated on, used and abused and was feeling somewhat vindictive.
sure.. I love Cuban music, for instance
I pay xxx.xx per month to play golf and listen the the birds, golf and golfers not mexicans and their damn loud stupid music
Ibrahim Ferrer
I set myself a goal and I achieved it. Doing so both cofirmed a suspission and depressed the hell out of me
xxx.xx per month or xxxx.xx per month?
xxx
so, if it were like blaring loud country music, that wouldn’;t be ok either I guess ?
Toccata in Fuge
actually, rond likes hardcore gangsta rap. And Primus.
I do like some of primus
goal was 5 women in 5 days
isn’t it Toccata *and* Fugue? wooho!
wynona’s brown beaver is pretty fun
so, 300 decibels of Primus = prime golf playing jam
well, you know why Bach had so many childern?
pilgrim`: and what conclusion did you come to exactly?
not being paid by illegal mexicans its not
His Organ had no stops
er played
haha
eheh
i bet rond is bad at golf
rumbleca that it is possible to, with determination, seduce damn near any gal regardless of her promises to another
I am not that good your right 15.7 handicap
pilgrim`: perhaps
is .tv a spam domain?
rond listens to the Village People while on the 16th hole
pilgrim`: are men somehow more faithful?
men are only as faithful as their options
that’s not true
ugy men are the most faithful
its a tv domain
Primus is a horrible band.
well that is what chris rock said anyway
I dislike their vocalist a decent amount. Their bass player is pretty much the only redeeming factor to them.
I only really like the one song I mentioned
I don’t think men and women are that different in that respect
rond men are only as faithful as their options — I don’t think that’s true for anyone but the very weak-willed.
hard to say, it just depends on the indavidual
personally I’ve known many more men who had women cheat on them, than other way around
but that’s not a representative sample
rumbleca no I will be back
KoBushi, same here I think
dunno KoBushi, for me its more men. depends on your culture too perhaps but also, its easy to say that all men are lying bastards, or all women are sluts, if you have expeienced a relationship like that which is true in some cases but not all. 99% of everything is crap!
I think genetically men are wired to be more potentially promiscius
only because women are so beautiful
Most of the bad cheaters I know are female. But I know a few guys who are really bad with it (doing shit with their friend’s girl etc)
but for the most part I do believe chris rocks statement its not 100% true but its pretty darn close from my expercience
what did he say?
men are only as faithful as their options
oh
he compared clinton getting a bj to say nixon
I would generally agree with that, for women too
or rather a lewiinsky (partial bj)
does that mean a) that you’re unfaithful because of multiple options, or b) faithful because of a lack of them?
it means both
how can it be both? either you have multiple options or you don’t seems..
well that could be the case but…the way that you put it it fits both = !.t.
I’m just pyutting it the way the phrase seems to make sense
=.f. there the same thing
putting, even no, either you .. have multiple options, in which case according to that statement you’d take advantage of that, or you have only one option, in which case you settle for that.
sorry your having such a hard time understanding it noob I have no problem understanding it all you might want to sleep on it
rond, rond, rond your boat
it’s not hard to understand the idea behind the phrase, what’s confusing is your lack of differentiation between many options and one.
in life you have options sometimes, and no options other times
either you have multiple options or you have one. Can’t have both many and one at once. Or if so, explain how ah, that’s true. Ok, see, that’s a reasonable explanation. maybe that’s what he means.
like, you are in a stable relationship, you think your life is going well then you meet somebody else that blows you away and you cheat
in other words the test of faithfulness is not your faith…its being confronted with an option
well-said
I still say you’re pretty weak willed if just meeting someone is going to break your monogamy.
I had meant only if one considered a specific moment in time.. single or multiple options
Well P_O you have not been tested yet by living with one person for say 10 years
depends on the person really
rond, true.
or by having lots of money
rond, but there’s two sides to that sword though. At that point I think it’d be stupid to risk something that’s worked for 10 years by cheating along with your will being weak.
like i said you have not been their yet
That doesn’t change what I just said
I have been faithful to both of my wives…but 10 years, 15 years etc things change compare your thinking now P_O to when you were 7 don’t think you might not make as many changes between now and when your 27
rond, I’m saying that even if things change for you internally, that it’s still stupid to risk a 10 year relationship over a fuck. But who knows.
yes it is stupid P_O but you do know the marriage stats
bbl
Yeah, I do know the marriage stats.
and you do also probably know more people are single these days than married
Which is why it’s always funny when social conservatives talk about keeping marriage safe from gays.
its not funny because social conservatives are against divorce also
P_O marriage is difficult even at its best that is the basis of the conservative view point in trying to protect the institution
redfish, I haven’t seen near as much outcry (at the very least recently) about people getting divorced as compared to gays getting married. rond, I think people should realize that all a marriage is, is what it is legally, you can make it mean more, but it doesn’t necessarily.
I buy into the purpose of a marriage ceremony is to make a public commitment between friends and family to stay married I also buy into the concept it may take friends and family to keep it together
Personally, if you plan to have children than the marriage is particularly valuable
rond, except since that doesn’t happen as much any more, that part also means substantially less than it once did.
I also buy into the concept its best for society to form itself to help/put pressure etc to make all marriages the most they should be uI also buy into the concept its best for society to form itself to help/put pressure etc to make all marriages the most they should be/u so I don’t so easily buy into the concept ahh its marriage it doesn not mean much anyway besides look at the stats…marriage is a failed institution
A couple should make a very serious commitment to each other if they plan to have children. Anyone who doesn’t think that is important, just has to look at all the broken homes, where the father flew the coop.
so why worry about it
that harms children.
rond, well, I don’t get why gays are a threat to marriage more than the dumbass heteros that get married and divorced at the drop of a hat.
but it’s just not *cool* to speak out in favor of marriage.
CometBaby, marriage doesn’t stop that at all.
P_O a marriage is and has been a concept between heteros us hetoros do not want that definition changed
rond, things change. Social definitions are about the loosest things possible in our society.
we have the right to make a case in this society to be the way we think it should be as do the gays lets see who wins
marriage is a soft concept to some people, not to others hence the debate
rond, meh. Personally I don’t think marriage should be in the books at all.
I do
Why?
so we can agree to disagree for all I just said how could I be less clear
rond, well, those were reasons you were saying marriage isn’t important, those aren’t reasons to make it a legal entity. er *is important bleh.
I’m in favor of marriage, none of my wives ever were, but I was.
I confuse my self when I use too many negative modifiers in a sentence.
P_O there are lots of obvious reasons death benifits insurance taxes home ownership property ownership child custody
why not make it so that legally everyone is joined under a civil union and churches can decide who’s “married”
because we like things they way they are
good point p_o
And who’s the “we”?
rond — so many things change
danke 
hetoros who believe in the concept of hetero marriage
the royal we
why cant the gays just call their deal something else and be over with it
the problem with that is that it is changing the definition of marriage for heteros
