11.30.07
dont get me wrong it makes me nervous too but if you were the leader of Iran and it looked like the US was gonna
Oh they will invent something
not me, i am sure
oh my not you
aloha and aloha
trapezoids penis is this long [ ]
redfish1: i would, but i am asian. i will do anything envolving penis enlargment, and the word spam
wonder if tom delay will go to prison?
he has a penis
is his case still open?
SweetLeaf — Democrats will investigate Bush until the cows come home
i doubt it
I think it is I think Foley is still open tgoo err too*
well.. the media got what they wanted out of the ase.. hence, they now ignore it. case
only because they want to appear kind and gentle before the 2008 election
Well I am going to partake in some smoke
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i wouldn’t doubt soem would want to, but i doubt they will
Foley case is on hold while Earle tries to get the charges reinstated
um.. you confusing Delay with Foley?
foley is not in earle’s jurisdiction
redfish1, you didn’t specify measurement system. 5cm assumed
is he?
Foley Case?
The Democrats will not do anything to harm their chances in 08. But is there is wrong doing discovered, this can only help their chances
There *IS* a Foley case?
Lupine, yes, I was confusing it with Delay
billfrug 5 twips
Yes
i think the foley case is technically still open.. but i doubt you’ll hear anything of it
Nothing that I’ve heard of Foley’s conduct, as repugnant and disgusting as it may be, rose to the level of a criminal offense.
i don’t even know if foley broke any laws
Both the FBI and Fl. officials opened up investigations for Fl back when it started
i haven’t really followedd his case
no case in Foley
mr kirk, your son is dead, he died of an overdose
well.. it is *possible* he broke a law in florida, that deals with internet communication to those under the age of 18.
What?
actually i din’t know if anyone really wants delay to go to jail
but from what I read, it would be a stretch.
they are just happy he had to get out of the house
it was all about getting him out of office.. Earl’s done his job.
coersion of minors with alcohol isn’t criminal?
kill all the hortasa hortas horta are monsters
I’d have thought it there were such laws and Foley’d run affoul of them, the media might have said *something* about it by now.
oh yeah, trapezoid, plenty of dems want delay in jail for his involvement over the redistricting in Texas
i think they have said something cathy to the effect ‘investigation underway’
it won’t change anything
the local district attorney was discussing it.. but him resigning pretty much took the steam out of any national interest.
I don’t recall any coersion of minors with alcohol.
they killed five of my men
nope. won’t change anything at all. it’s all vendetta now
COCK SUCKERS MOMMA FUCKERS
redfish1, no kill I
Go away
NO U!
Blood in stool? see a doctor!
You came tous, not the other way around.
GO FUCK A DONKEY NIGGER!
Racist or foul Language or Spam
3 Bloodstor devoiced for lameness
that’ll end that.
what a genius
Actually, speaking of donkey sex
what?!!!!
3 Bloodstor devoiced for lameness
It’s people like Bloodstor that make me want to lobby for an Internet user’s license.
I believe there was an instance in Iraq of an Iraqi being photographed having sex with a donkey
I wonder if the latest arrest of Cindy Sheehan might not jeapardize her previous conviction sentence
Or was it a goat
yep. i’ve seen the video.
I can’t remember
people like Bloodstore make me believer that there is a valid argument for euthenasia
NSFW http://www.fucd.com/index.php?link=1030
cindy got arrested again?
things they do not train you to handle in basic
is that what they mean by 72 virgins?
Instead, according to law enforcement officials and several former pages, a pattern is emerging of seduction by Foley that began when the boys were 16 and 17. In cases where actual sex followed, it was not until the boys were at the legal age of 18. wow thats sick
lol… didn’t cindy buy property in Texas? she’s still trespassing
if that is true, then there is a case
Who says pervs can’t exhibit some forms of intelligence?
as one could incorporate the entire seduction process inot the crime, and that occurred when they were underage
What is cute, is republicans (even some in this room) defended him with the whole “the boy was 18″ when it happen line Which is true, however …
I think the incriminating evidence is in the chat conversations he had with the kids when they were under 18 if you’re looking for legal liability
It’s still rather disturbing (the events leading up)
dclassify, that’s not as cute as the ones who want to crucify someone without evidence
hrm, if I have to go only by our celebrated authors; i’d think being a perv is a requirement..
*cough* i’m not sure there is anyone who defended what Foley did.
bill you are right
Just because he may have waited until AFTER the boy was 18 doesn’t mean I cut him slack for being a sicko and being careful
and what about all the democrats who knew, but didn’t say anything for over a year?
one should wait to see what happens
*before*
and inf act, most of teh GOP seemed to WANT him out..
as far as indictments, etc
the most incriminating part of it seemed to be him telling what sexual acts he wants to do to the kid
the GOP kicked them out.. the democrats re-elects them.
but even then it seems to be on the verge of a crime
Mason__, that part was withheld
Foley v Studds, DeLay v Jefferson, etc
I can post it bill
please don’t
I don’t want to see it
Well, if there are laws against sending textual obscenity to a minor, then it appears he’s guity and should fry.
agreed, Cathy344
oh i am sure there are people investigating the case and if one exists, it will be brought
I have just as much of a problem with the guy that talks “dirty” to a 16 year old as I do with a guy that actually acts on what he says
Cathy absolutely .. and furthermore, it should set a precedent for all those leftist perverts who think they are above the law
from what i’ve read if the prosecutor was ballsy enuff they could make solicitation charges stick
I actually doubt that.
i am sure republicans as well as democrats will insist upon it
you cant say “hey 12 year old girl, when you turn 18, the day after, we are gonna fuck”
yeah leftist pervs are the worst
trap, I’m sure about the republicans, but not the democrats considering people like Studds and Frank
lol
rightwing pervs are ok, cause we know they are sick, to start with
I have just as much of a problem with the guy that talks “dirty” to a 16 year old as I do with a guy that actually acts on what he says
damn them!
but the leftists, they should know better
its called predators
trap .. leftist pervs get a pass and you know it
Indeed
there is a reason why we register sex offenders because its an illness
Man, i forgot just how weird Van Hallens “Pretty Woman” video was
and they PREY on the weak
dems allowed it to go on for a year
they are predators, not criminals
they knew, but kept quiet
But in the name of politics, it slides a little differently I suppose =\
But what if he said something more innocuous like, “hey, 17 year old boy, the day after you turn 18, I wanna DATE you.”
that’s tacit approval
the criminality is secondary to the likelihood that a) they will continue b) they will get worse
when you have a leftist perv you don’t ask him to resign .. you elect him to office. (Barney Frank)
if this was joe blow
is that why they kept Re-electing Gerry Studds.. so they knew where he was all the time?
joe blow would be moving away from the school he lived next to
Leftist pervs are praised for their courage when they get caught.
apparently the ethics committee said that they were quite disturbed by foley’s colleagues, who knew about it but allowed it to continue
It is amazing to me what people will tolerate when it’s “thier guy” to which they would almost cruify for if it was anyone else
joe blow would be in prison right now
Even more so the “other party”
the fact that he was a congressman is the only thing keeping him out of jail
frank is a perv?
dclassify can you show anyone here of the GOP who defends Foley?
Frank is a total perv.
becuase he is openly homosexual? or did he seduce kiddies?
barney frank had young un’s living with him
Sure if I had the logs from back when the alligations came out ;p
Frank is a total perv. and it’s not because he’s gay.
even ran a prostitution ring out of his basement
well fuck him and string him up too
But alas, I don’t keep logs
Simply expressing that you find someone attractive is not a crime, even if it is a child. Enticing a kid to have sex is a different thing. The boundary between sexual urge and aesthetic appeal is wide enough to allow some of the latter on underage children. If it wasn’t, briteny spears would have no carreer.
i would think (this is just a supposition) that someone like hi would be extra careful cause he KNOWS he is being watched
how can you guys possible in good faith polarize this issue
dclassify most of the GOP/independants/libertarians here said straight up: if true, Foley should be out.
left right up down i dont see how it matters its kids and adults that know better
was dismissing their parking tickets left and right
i agree with you
i agree. but that is how the democrats run their party.
I remember when Barney Frank was caught violating D.C. gun laws by having a shotgun in his private residence. For all I know, it’s still there.
wtf do democrats have to do with it?
Laws for thee but not for me bullshit
when the foley story broke out, anyone saying we should wait to hear the evidence (and that the IMs were not the same as emails) was considered to be defending Foley
It’s easy, left/right polarize everything
and then there was the minor thing about Barney’s lover running a gay brothel out of his home
especially since the guy in question is a republican, but again its moot hje is a criminal
They polarize what they have for breakfast
he does not rise to the level of human
becasue it is democrats who polarized the issue: compare how they treated Gery Studds, to how the GOP treated Foley
he doesn’t belong to a party
Heck! Kennedy killed a woman, and look at him!
i dont know who gery studds is, lets hang his ass and kennedy
A fat lush?
Studds was brave for coming out with his sexuality!!
ummmm
he’s on the judiciary
Very true. Kennedy should be gone too
Who is Gerry Studds?
Though if we said being a crooked bastard was a cause for dismissal from congresss
Republicans are prudes!
hell
the average joe would get fucked in the ass by a DA over this
1/2 would have to go We would be representativeless ;p
Cathy344, Studds was a congressman who raped a 17 year old intern
when?
lets fry his ass then
and who kept getting re-elected by democrats :-/
oh look it up
BillFrugg, that’s ok - he didn’t send him a text message
Does it matter when?
Why was the Chandra Levy Congressman?
_3Josephs correction.. that’s okay - he wasn’t a repuglican
Condit?
i am surious, so yes
That is an odd thing about democrats I never understood
curious
Yeah! Where’s Gary Condit these days?
Condit was a freak
They can knowingly admit the guy they are electing is a crook But they still elect em
yep.. Jefferson? Marion Barry?
well they re-elected nixon in 72
they applauded Studds for his defiance and homosexuality
so anyone can get elected
i dont understand either party, people re-elect a rapist on one side, and marginalize crimes against children on the other side’
trap, that explains Clinton
and they think that gives them ammo to attack the other side
I don’t either dehuman
bush got re-elected to too
hello pot, your ass is black too. this is the kettle speaking
who marginalized crimes against children?
well, facts show the strong difference of how the GOP police their party, versus the democrats
anyone who makes it a left right thing
No child left behind is a metaphorical crime against children
Apparently, the old saw isn’t entirely correct. You can still get elected if you’re caught in bed with a live boy.
what fucking difference? the parties are different? on what issue?
if Gerry studds had been a GOP, he would be forced to resign. If Jefferson was, he would be forced to resign
Who received the most votes as 06’s top villian
Has the dead hooker half been tested?
My problem with NCLB is if yuo’re going to put it out there, at least keep it frmo turning into a worthless underfunded piece of shit
in 02, saddam hussein received 99.6% of the votyes in the iraqi election
If not, then don’t propose it
now THAT is a mandate
oh the parties are different on abortion… you call that an issue?
It shouldn’t be ;p
trapezoid — This is the AP poll taken in the U.S.
oh the parties are different on gun control… thats not an issue either, the constitution is clear,,,
trapezoid — Saddam did not win this one
The constitution is very clear
all these ‘issues’ look more and ,\more like diversions
What a coincidence. In 2006, he’ll be getting 9960 Volts through his rectum.
Yet with both parties you wouldn’t know it
nah saddam will be hung
Saddam will pull a Goering
I know, but I didn’t have a lame joke for that.
mark my words
i dont see one party campaigning on reducing foreign aid, instead they debate on how to spend it who to give it to
What? Try to jump and snap his neck rather than strangulate?
Iraqis!
the us gives so little foreign aid anyway, why worry?
Because if we keep throwing money and troops at Iraq
No, cyanide just hours before the hangman
It’s BOUND to get better!
hmm
the smallest % of gdp of any western democracy
I forgot to fix ident
i consider the execution of war foreign aid
why?
1% of trillions is alot
Oh, fuck that. Suicide watch has prolly already started.
so dont go throughing around percentages thinking it means the amount is meager
who’s on suicide watch? saddam?
but it is the % whioch is important
notice how democrats often talk about tax-cuts in absolute dollars { it’s saving the rich X million dollars! }.. but tax-raises in percentages { it’s only a 5% increase! }
80% of all statistics are made up, including this one.
small nations like norway give way more % per capita than we do
How much money once it is all said and one will we have spent on Iraq you think?
more aid per capita
i sure hope so.. but mark my words.. I bet he escapes the hangman’s vandetta
Cathy344, that’s 87.2%
wtf is it then? please tell me where put iraq in my ledger, if not misc charity
war
many of those *DO* ignore private contrabutions however.
well he sure has his ass kissing boots on
ok cool for norway this is america
the defense dept
“support the us troops”
and in fact, the mark of a nation is better judged by the private contributions.
not some leftest eurotrash country if norway wants to give away norway fine
My mistake.
you are spounting nonsesne but gho ahead
because you are citing irrelevant information?
i don’t mind i am citing rather important info
what difference does it make to a capitalist american what some socialist european country does with its money? i disagree, its is completely irrelevant
you cal norway socialist? as compared to , let’s say, cuba?
lol
of perhaps the ex soviet union?
All Federal offices will be closed on TUES — Nat’l Day of Mourning for Former Pres Ford..
hehe Cigarettes in Texas going up by $1/pack January 1
yeah
hahaha
Kaliuna, is that confirmed?
HA HA
NASDAQ is closed
3J - yes its been confirmed
why are we comparing norway to cuba
Europe has mainly capitalist economies with socialism in the form of large welfare states
“Why the F* Am I Here” - “I just joined for the college money”
Kaliuna, yahoo! - 4 day weekend 
Bureaucrats get another day to loaf
while everybody’s paying $5 for a pack, I’ll be paying $2.55
why are we talking about norway or cuba wiuth regards to us foreign aid? why are dilluting the issue
dclassify — ookkk if you say so
god bless them injuns and their tax-free tobacci shops
you damn leftist
cause you were spounting nonsense about how norway was a socialist nation
close enuff
It’s a joke lighten up
us is socialist too
in norway they don’t advocate anything like true socialism
Comet — might put up a reminder for TUES - no banks, postal or gov’t offices will be open…
it’s alla matter of degree
those are for ritualistic purposes only, heathen!
It’s off a image I have
next week?
comet yeah
Comet - yes next week
tuesday is a federal dayof mourning
I’ll wait a bit on that
right
most federal offices will be closed
actually I’m really surprized its Tuesday - I thought there was a rule that prevented banks from being closed 4 consecutive days
I wonder if Ford will have the pomp of Reagan’s
Comet - well ya - but just keep it in mind
but if norway gives away a larger percent of its gdp its more socialist than the US
thx
it has been confirmed, NASDAQ is closed, the NYSE has not said anything yet
and the point is to stop giving away my fucking money
yw
trap I figure they will be
Let those people work for their money — no free lunch
comet i think so too
With the war on terror? lol Keep dreaming
trap - ya am sure they will be…
war on terror? please show me numbers that prove we are safer
If I find them, I will
well, tell bush to stop wasting yiour money on the iraq occupation
dehuman, like how many 1000’s of terrorists have been killed?
i mean i know i lived in fear before 9-11
$2 billion / week
no shit
LOL. Horny straight boys are a laugh riot.
foreign aid
You shook in your boots too?
no
Alright after 20 years I have a bed frame..
not foreign aid
trapezoid — Stop those terrorists from using American bones to build their houses
war is foreign aid
Fucking looks good too..
FreeTra5w you going to try to break it tonight?
foreign aid is when they give money to bild hospitals
I thought that was just me that closed the blinds
build
FreeTra5w — terrific — now you can sleep?
or train teachers
My head is killing me from putting it together though Kali I could sleep before.. but it will be prettier.
we are subsidizing the defense of other sovereign nations out of our pockets lets not call it differently than what it is its welfare
FreeTra5w — did you look at the remodel job hubby and I did?? looks pretty good if I say so myself
no offense, but youhave sdome weird ideas now and then
Harry Reid disses dead pretend president’s funeral for South American sexy time.
How about stop giving money to Africa in the name of AIDS when they really don’t know how to grasp the concept of prevention
sounds good to me gates and buffett can take care of it
Al Sharpton is shouting about James Brown. Is it too late to vote for him? Sharpton or Brown, we’re not picky.
us gives $3 billion to israel a year, and $2.5 billion to egypt
Indeed. Let them deal with their problem
Fucking head ache.. Give me an aspirin to stop me from dying.. Now that I am officially High Cholesterol… Just kidding.. (About the melodramatic give me an aspirin) but not the headache..
Stop that too
and i hate both egypt and israel with for tat developed countries especially dont need our help
Enough about politicians nobody much likes,
Saddam is so stressed out… that he’s at the end of his rope
i mean these guys where around before the US
that is from a treaty we signed back when they signed a peace treaty at camp david
15 mg hydrocodone.. sometimes its better than heroin..
why do they need our help?
what a rush eh?
Larry King is semi-living proof that CNN needs to immediately implement a mandatory retirement age.
Because we’re world police!
heh
Who are they ?
;p
“they”
no argument here
Larry King is still alive?
are “they” related to “Them”
THEM!!!
I thought he retired… about 18 times
hehe
Democrats will investigate the GOP sex slave scandal
we are in a unique position, atlantic on one side, pacific on the other side, friendly states to the north and south that buffer threats we should be kicking back relaxing enjoying the american dream
15 mg of vicodone: that’s a lot
while the world eats itself
aaaman, I wish there was a sex slave scandal. at my age nothing turns me on under 18 or over 20
No! Never! We must keep the fight there so it doesn’t come here
pages were for the purpose of serving the sexual appetites of Congress - obviously not subject to the ethical standards of mere mortals
ummmm
haha i would love for someone to bring the fight here i dont know how they would
FreeTra5w does this mean I have to warn all the 19 yr olds
Trap, Not really.. 750mg 325 acetaminiophen
pearl harbor made people realize the oceans were no loger useful for defense
you can have 2 grams acet a day
9/11 confirmed that
325 mg acet
FreeTra5w — unite for right to avoid eventual U.S. collapse
pearl harbor did not confirm that pearl harbor was a failure the fleet was not sunk it made us mad, but it was not a japanese success a costly attack indeed
aaaman as an old man you have to admit miss teen america is kind of hot when she is kissing miss america ?
a few ships were sunk
big deal?
thousands of sailors died
who won the war?
right big deal duh
I am too hot to trott
tell me the ocean doesn’t make a good barrier again
same for 9/11
Loose lips sink ships. which is why miss america cant go on battleships
only a few buildings were hit only 3000 killed so big deal
9/11 in my mind was some isolated incident,. kinda like 1 in 39,000 people get struck by lightening
you are sounding more foolish as we go on
and a whole lot more injured - some severely
it pissed me off bad i was at work
dehuman, great, next time it happens It probably will be too..
and people were attacking NYC
to me it was about #7 in a series of incidents starting in 1993
trapezoid 3000 innocent americans were killed in a sneak attack.. and you just say “big deal”?
but what do you want me to do about it? think the world is falling ubut what do you want me to do about it? think the world is falling/u
Laura Bush 2% More Admired Than Angelina Jolie! –
the ocean doesn’t make a good barrier
prove it trapezoid
Nope, but we want to make damm sure it cant happen again, as easily
the airplane
Hey Oc, my own personal Jesus Christ!
Of course, by spending every cent we don’t have
missiles
rofl
Sorry bad joke if any religious people are here.
ummm, good wimmers swimmers
And piling one government buerocracy on top of another
the beloved power couple George W. Bush and Hillary Clinton take the top spots in the “male” and “female” categories — both with an unimpressive and unlucky 13%.
you want to hang me on a cross?!
hehe
it DOES make for a good barrier.. one of the reasons why the US won the war: they could not attack our industrial might.
OcDoc, Only when the messenger brings bad news
but it isn’t a perfect barrier.. you still need to be diligent in patrolling like on how we castrated our air superiority inside the US under clinton
A terrorist could go right up through Mexico And right into the U.S.
Actually though back to the debate, Im joking around a lot guys. Seriously the oceans are a major barrier..
or canada
Shocked they’re too stupid to realize that
they just arent a guranteed barrier.
me too i mean if we are so exposed and the terrorists are so poised to kill us
i love it when people say “so what if iran has a nuke, they dont’ have a missile to reach us”..
where the fuck are the cowards?
For example in a conventional attack from China we could probably sink all her ships and shoot down all of her aircraft b efore they reached US soil.
At the rate we have people flowing throught he borders they could replace entire sleeper cells all over America
70 years ago people thought they were 100% effective
Trap, 70 years ago they didnt have ICBMs or Nukes
right that was my point
i think we have seriously overrated these terrorists
and I do agree with you generally, its a lot less safer than it was.
i know if i switched sides
hm chavez said this hugo chavez Today, Radio Caracas Television became the first victim, when Chávez announced that he will not renew its license in March of next year. “Start shutting down the equipment,” Chávez said in a speech at Fuerte Tiuna, Caracas military headquarters. He told Marcel Granier, the owner of Radio Caracas Television, to “pack your bags and turn off the lights
ya’ll would be fucked
because the real threat today is rogue regimes and assymetrical warfare, not nation on nation warfare.
I’m not worried about a missle. I ammore worried about them coming up through the South border as sleepers
and the consequences are far more dire
I dont fead china or Russia in the slightest. I fear their nukes. I mean I rarely think about it, but I realize they could kill us with nukes.
9/11 pissed me off cause manhattan ran out of food after 2 days
ANd sitting for a few years while thjey get their shit together then *boom*
since the briges and tunnels were closed
Trap, 9/11 at a great cost taught us invaluable lessons.
I don’t fear China’s nukes, because their country is controlled
But of course, nobody cares about that, uit’s all about “Iraq”
russia on the other hand…
Nomex, true..
i fear putin
Overweight is a great threat
that guy is shade
Pakistan’s nukes are rather unsecured
JUDO CHOP
putin is not so bad compare him to stalin
what?
putin is not so bad
But Im thinking in terms of possibilities, I think even with russia the odds of a nuke are low accept for an accidental launch.
assassinating people in the UK
pakistan’s nukes also aren’t a direct threat, because they have no long range delivery
with radioactive isotopes
you kave proof on that?
not so bad oh for fucks sake
John McCain is just a little bit more admired than Mel Gibson
send it to scotland yard
On the other hand, Who knows whats in the mind of a Iran ?
they are looking for some
who has polunium ?
They may want jihad and holy war and heaven
do you know where it comes from ?
i have a bit if you need some
me too byut ui’m not talking smoking cigarettes
but mel gibson isn’t in politics
there is no USS Gerald Ford, which is why it needs your help so bad
I think Iran is trying to make themselves a big enough threat that the US won’t invade
like you could isolate enuff polunium from cigarette smoke to kill people
anyone with a few million bucks could buy it, in russia
polunium is used to detonate nukes
US foreign policy as of late has shown that unless you have the real deal, you’re in trouble
Cheney, Rumsfeld, surrender in Vietnam, Whip Inflation Now, the Chevy Chase Show, pardoning Nixon, etc
whichis the current theory
ok so who is the conspiracy theorist here ?
USS Ford is needed
ummm, you? you already said putin was the guy
cigarette smoke DOES kill people
some random non aligned agressor went way overboard and way into the red to assassinate a former kgb guy?
a dead pretend president’s aircraft carrier at least
i am leaving my options open
instead of a bullet
nope
Nomex, can you think of a way to deter that motive for developing countries?
they use polonium ok sure the tooth fairy is real too
some guy who has a lot of money and wants to embarass putin
threatening invasion isn’t a good deterrent, diplomacy is
there are many like that
conspiracy?
a dead *pretend* president’s aircraft carrier ?
I’d agree
next you are gonna tell me bush did 9/11 to wake up america
nope
Nomex. The president claims to be a Jihadist, he claims he is with the people who want to kill infidels to go to heaven. IS he religious and a jihadist or a faker ? That is a ? mark but the problem is, is that I have seen him tell hezbollah in private tapings not for press consumption how he supports Jihad and the apocalypse. that is enough to make me nervous
possibility there are many possibilities there is no obvious suspect
TheTailor — Better than a commemorative baseball cap.
maybe it was the cia?
well, FDR “did” Pearl Harbor to wake up america
or the ud defense dept?
These are the guys who invented the virgins in heaven crap
in iran?
ot hugo chavez?
ok, i think we’ve settled the issue of your credibility
AAAman, what was the *pretend* part about?
yep
well, we already settled yours earlier
don’t get me wrong, it makes me nervous too, but if you were the leader of Iran, and it looked like the US was gonna invade, what would you do?
so if you want to rant, please gfo ahead
TheTailor– There is no USS Ford as we speak?
I know I’d b;low up like a puffer fish
do you still write for alexjones.org?
make myself as scary as possible
listen trapezoid, go call alex jones and tell him oh fuck you cheating
heh
the USS Henry Ford
Just like the SUicide bomber really comes from Iran unless you go way back to a couple incidents in biblical history where christians used it. but as far as a revered part of history it was in Iran.
It would need to be the USS King
actually not
so when are gonna be on coast2coast again?
Support the USS Gerald Ford — sign our petition
I don’t like what Iran is doing, but I understand why
the sri lanlans have been using suicide bombers for many years sri lankans
talking about cryptozoology or contrails this time trapezoid?
They changed the name of King County, Washington to … er, um, King County, Washington in honor of MLK
Trap, yes they glorified it they made it into a virtue. others who did it did not make it into a virtue they saw it as a strategic means of killing 10 times there numbers when they would probably die anyway
that must have been expensive
the boondocks where mlk gets put in a coma instead of dying is funny
People did suicide missions in ww2 americans did
changing all those signs
yes, it must have been …
the difference is the suicide missions we did were of strategic importance
I’m not making this up
but the ritualized suicide killing of others has strong historical roots in iran and in fact they taught it to the people who used it in Israel.
me neither
prior to a link between Iran and Israel there had never been a suicide bombing in Israel by Palestinians
i agree with you, just want to contrast the ineffectiveness of klling randoms instead of sacrificing yourself to obtain a clearly defined objective
iran and the Palestinians I mean
like blowing up a damn in the face of insurmountable odds
I wonder if Dave Barry has noted this in his articles
It started out as a non muslim thing..
the japanese “kamikazes” were suicide bombers
i’m gonna get to the bottom of this thing
the suicide tradition in iran
traditional Islam disapproves of suicide but they make a distinction between suicide and courageously risking your life in war against your enemies
Trap, So were americans in ww2.. Actually its not all that uncommon.
i’m gonna start shaking down muslims in my hood, specially arabs and persians they need to tell me where these terrorists are
b ut to see people go after civilian populations women and children is pretty shocking It shocks me..
so if there was even a small chance you wouldn’t die during the attack, you’re a martyr … but if you intended to kill yourself, it’s suicide
not to mention stupid tactic of no strategic value lets kill bystanders and see if the policy makers cave to our demands
they didn’t have any choice … they were nailed into their aircraft
israel is equally stupid, the IDF makes every israeli a legit military target by way of conscription
that only works in the case of France and Spain
especially 70 year old women
not in my mind, but in some nutjob with c4 strapped to his chest
and 10 year old kids
dont get me started on the french
Also the use of it as a religious thing is troublesome, Christians used it in religious wars. But not with dreams of rewards in the afterlife.
well, it was actually the Spaniards who “caved”
The notion that a deity will reward you for bloody murder of children and babies is disgusting and troubling obviously. Its not politics. its not legitimate.. You want politics ? Kill soilders.. Kill politicians. Kill Babies there is no excuse in the world.
did we move onto abortion?
You want to ? hahaha
we sill soon
you remind me of the aquaintance I had in college who used to drive down the Drag shouting at women “Hey, baby thit on my faith” (he had a hairlip and speech impediment”
only if you’re for ti so I don’t have to argue
I am pro abortion.. California will be republican in 10 years thanks to it and birth control.. uI am pro abortion.. California will be republican in 10 years thanks to it and birth control.. /u
woot I agree.
hehehehe
we asked him why he used that tactic … he replied that even if it only worked once in a hundred times, it was worth it
Seriously I am pro choice with limits.. I dont like after viability abortions. for sure..
I think if you’re gonna do it, get an abortion early
wow … gene kruppa was here … awesome
no humming and hawingf you either want it or you don’t
But I figure its pretty much between a woman and her conscience, doctor, god, guru, soul, whatever. Yes I agree get it early.
the big question is, should men have an equal say in abortion
And if we made it readily available early it might not be as likely to see so many later ones. if it were easy to get a very early term abortion it might prevent a lot of later term abortions. nomex, No. I dont think men should. and it snot simply because she carried it in her body. Carries..
FT, it’s not just her baby.
so if the condom breaks, and the guy doesn’t want it, he should have to pay child support regardless?
it may not even be fair, but ultimately she has control so I am contradicting myself. It is because she has it in her body
FT, it’s not just her baby.
I just brought it up because it’s a bad debate either way
TT, Its not just her baby but she has control and its not about life being fair or it being fair.. Its about if she loves you and you really want it, she wont abort it. if she hates you or doesnt love you she isnt going to give a damn what you think and you are better off without her.. even with the terrible sacrifice of a child. if you want a child.
FT, I think it’s more about prior planning.
the ultimate decision is hers !
tell me agains why we switched to abortion?
Plenty of women want to have children and want husbands who want children. Go get em!
And of course the above you mentioned
are you people masochists?
yes
Betty Ford supports the right to choose
but that has nothing to do with my abortion view
Ocdoc hahaha
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that’s important
I don’t have your policital leanings nailed down yet
AAAman, really, show a transcript of where she said that.
so you’ll have to excuse me
That is important for Betty Ford
;p
so does Grace Jones
Someone said something like lets not abortion which naturally means its going to be discussed next
why would you want to nail down my political leanings?
My wife supports the right too
so I know when you’re kidding?
yeah, that’s EXACTLY how it happened …
I have ocdoc nailed down.. to the cross. I just havent finished deifying him yet
