11.30.07
Mason_ With 14 years of Republican controlled Congress 6 years of Republican controlled Senate 2 years of Republican
Harsen…I don’t think so anymore
Then you aren’t very informed
we’re still techologically superior but the margins have erroded quickly
The gap has lessened, but USA could still take China to school any day of hte week easily
Harsen…we’ll get the chance within 10 years
China can’t catch up to USA within 10 years
not even in 100 yrs
we don’t want the chance
probably not realistically within 20 or 30
Harsen… no we could not, not untill people stop appeasing agressors
JanetB, maybe not politically, but certainly militarily
china is an ally
China has exactly 0 force projection
we do not stand a chance in any war, cause the media and the libs, will not stand for us winning
janet fuck you
When Bejing decides they are tired of the misfits on Formosa…and they just surround the island and bomb it to 1492…what will we do?
MASON! - enough of that
Mason_, Hey, not our fault that Libs cheer and say “SEE? TOLD YOU SO” when American troops die.
Mason_.. truth hurts huh?
Hikezilla, Lol 1 or 2 carrier groups is all thats needed to take care of that mess
I’m sick of 55 percent of the population being touted as traitors
Mason_, Liberals aren’t 55 percent of the population
YOU are the ones who are in the minority
nor are the media
and traitors seems like a rather tame description
According to what?
well, funny 75 % of the country was behind this war untill the LIBS and the media have pounded it into the ground for 3 years solid!!!
we won’t stop China from taking back Taiwan
with there we are not winning we can not win blah blah blah
Hikezilla, Probably not, but USA could
all of our taiwanese manufacturing is already in mainland China
there is a difference between won’t and can’t
basically we’ll break another treaty to keep from going to war with China
and the constant barage of the daily death count! personally I would like to see the media censored during war
Janet and never any of the good things going on
Kaliuna.. of course not.. that would change peoples minds the point is they WANT failure
oh yes and all the lawyers… waiting to file law suits against our soldiers for doing their job
so do not tell me about being traitors, they are
Kaliuna - why do you figure we’re so tame with these guys and just shoot off oir mouth aobut htem being traitors? and dont do anything with them?
How do you define a liberal?
GB — darned good question….
Janet, you’re the reason we have a whole new generation of kids embracing the democratic party.
Mason…those kids can get a 750 on the SAT
Mason_.. and you are the reason this country will fail
thanks to 30 years of liberal pub education
750 is prett good isnt it?
no
ok:-) just checking i got an 1110
no it isn’t
YEah…it’s good, compared to the IQ of a loaf of bread
if we’re looking at results lets look at results of the last seven years
Since when have young people NOT embraced the democratic party?
Goon…my homeschooled kids got a 1320 and 1280
oooooooooooo im impressed that’s DAMN good
yeah lets look at a FABLOUS economy.. that the MEDIA and LIBS put down! so people think it is bad give me a break
perfect is what? 1400?
I was too 
I think 1600
our boys are coming home in caskets because of political decisions
ok
Mason_, Look at results of the last 7 years, for Liberals being the “majority” in America?
3000 or so in 5 years,
If you ask them, they think they’re doing a good job.
unlike the 3000 that died in 1 day in ww2 and never came home at ALL - and are still burrieed in france
Mason_.. no our military are comming home in caskets cause of the libs and trhe media NOT letting them fight a war
Mason_, With 14 years of Republican controlled Congress, 6 years of Republican controlled Senate, 2 years of Republican presidency, and a 2006 election that the Democrats were only voted in because the Republicans were spending like Democrats? Mason_, Yeah, real Liberal.
Kids Embracing the democratic Party Interesting, University of California, Berkeley California, largest Student group on Campus by far is the college Republicans.
GB well parts and pieces of them are buried in france
ok good point Kaliuna:-)
So whats this about Democratic kids ? we talking high school ? ;0
lets also not forget how many terrorist attacks there have been on american interests since this war started
democrats, republicans…all shit
and for another thing they are NOT BOYS
FreeTra5w have to ask person who made the statement
they are ADULTS
harsen, what?
we’ve had one feeble attack on our embasy in syria….
Mason_, “Liberals” are not the ‘majority’ in the United States
are illegal aliens liberals?
compared to the 1st wtc attack, the Cole, the Hobard towers, the african embasy, in the 90s….
Hiker, You havent become that way have you ? YOU know think leftist socialists and rightist capitalists are equally evil ?
Hikezilla illegal aliens are ILLEGAL…
am i missing any?
Hikezilla, No, many are socially conservative hispanic catholics
True Illegal aliens are usually pretty conservative.. good point..
thats the problem
They want to work hard, too.
latinos are often very conservative on social issues
Free…I have nothing but disdain for the american career politician…regardless of party.
but liberal on enconomic issues
Big on family values, work long hard hours, dont complain. Yeah, you have a point.
GB - ya there were several in 90s –
they tend to be pro lfe etc Kaliuna - i think im missing some
They are now Thanks to you Thank god
Mason_, No they aren’t. Certainly not 55%.
Hiker, well I do understand that, Politicians tend to go bad regardless of party if they are in DC long enough
hey goonybird!
but since 9/11, we ad afeeble attack on 1 embasy in syria - 2 months ago hey CryHavoc
where have you been?
which is why I am a HUGE supporter of Term Limits.
sounded more like a frat prank
GB - well news on some late night talk show radios - talking about OKC and asking why they haven’t gone after those mideaster connections to it…
around
I want a constitutional amendment.
ya Kaliuna - i wonder about that
Free…my idea for the last election was to have them all arrested, including the CIC about a week before election day…and then we’d just rep;lace them all at the same time
get rid of Teddy kennedy and Jessie Helms Joe Biden and Arlen Specter
the john doe #2 - who supposedlu didnt exist - loos a HELL of a lot like Jose Padilla
Hm this is an interesting special on NBC about illegal immigration.
GB — ayup - got a list of 90s stuff
hahaha
America remains one of the most Conservative countries
and ther are still a number of witnesses insist they saw a whats his name with some men that appeared to be middle eastern
and one of the only countries where the Conservative base of support outweighs the Liberal base of support
GB — actually there were JohnDoe 2 & 3 — by some reports
Harsen, Well its the most economically liberal country really.. Though many call that conservatism
With Libertarians, Fiscal Conservatives (classical liberal), Social Conservatives, forming that base
won’t be long until the republicans can’t find enough patriots to be in the military Harsen, who’s going to be the manpower in the new military The democratic house and senate isn’t going to fund a 70000 increase in power.
ITs also a very liberal country period. which is what people also call conservative some times..
Kaliuna - hmm thats possible - my memory of that is a little fusy - i had some other serious personal shit going on that day and for about 2 weeks after
Mason_, Are you seriously cheering on youth losing faith in military service as a career?
gnite
GB — ahh yes — totally comprehend
FreeTra5w, Fiscal conservatism today is economic liberalism
For example free speech is liberal and conservatives often battle it, PC Speech is anti liberal and yet its called liberal.
i;ll get into that later in a nother channel Harsen - well what most would call Classical Liberalism
Harsen, I’m cheering youth seeing a bad opportunity and avoiding it.
GoonyBird, Right
And there have been lots of lawsuits by freedom groups against students kicked out of schools for things like a joke about gays or minorities and I mean really non offensive jokes..
GB — well I still can’t go there –
Mason_, so your fantasy is a nation of wimps?
okL)(
Mason_, The military isn’t a bad opportunity, in fact its an excellent opportunity and an extreme honor to be able to serve one’s country.
Classical Liberal is right. And its called conservative but thats not out of line. A conservative can be someone who is trying to conserver the liberal traditions which founded this country. Conserver = Conserve
Gromit_, His wish seems to be a future dimunation of American power globally
and dispite what many tell you, there are still quite a lot of legitimate educational oportunities for military people
GB - but the other one ya… just don’t cause never seems like anyone is chatting
If the U.S. is going to ignore vets and produce more of them, yeah, it’s a shitty situation. Gimme your senate member, and if he’s a republican I bet I can find an instance of him voting against vet benefits
Gromit_, Which must stem from some deep dislike or disagreement with America in general
The constitution was very liberal as was our form of Republican Democracy.
ya tre - they only chat during the show - if at all
Mason_, I don’t have a senator
youfrom guam
Government Of By and For the people ? Why thats heresy!
puerto rico?
GB and by that time — during week - gotta get to bed cause its midnight here… ya know
ya
People should be ruled, they dont know whats best for them.
Then you can go fuck a tree for all I care
No, I’m not American, I’m just a foreign ally of America
thats life o ok:-)
Mason_, Nice way to try to avoid a conversation son
GB — ya but ya know - I tape it and listen during day uGB — ya but ya know - I tape it and listen during day /u
Harsen, you’ve no interest in the situation, watch the news
Mason_, I don’t have any interest in the situation? America’s situation directly affects my countries security and economy. Our security and economy improves when Republicans are in power, it suffers when Democrats hold power. Not to mention, I am ideologically allied with the Republicans anyways
Yeah and I’m sure you’re interested in how our vets are treated
im much closer to the republcans…but
it’s on your top ten
they’re far from perfect
GB –
even reagan was slithgly too big government for me
GB — doubt if we can find anyone perfect these days… when it comes to politicians
no - i;ve written them all off a this point - i fiture its a waste of time trying to fix our system
no its not a waste of time, but its going to take a whole lot of people workign together to get it done
Harsen you’re one of those douchebags that the republicans constantly complain about, another frenchman whining about america. You can seriously fuck off for all the time you spend paying attention to me.
and there;s the problem k
sup GoonyBird, ltns
Mason_, I’m not French, and you sure are acting like a big baby
too many americans have gone totally ficking bonkers hey killja_
GB = sure is!
Then produce hersen
haha
Produce what?
make a point, do something
i think we need royaly here now with me as king
someone rang?
and i make all the descisions
Harsen has no Surrendure in his psyche!
lol hi IamKing
I thought we were having a discussion. Aparently I wore my discussion hat to Mason_’s crybaby party.
King Goonybird…hrmm…
Kaliuna - you and somefriends can be dukes and ductheses heh
could he be any worse then congress?
people i trust to have enough sense
IamKing Whats up bud?
Hersen — sorry — got tired of Mason…
heh:-)
nothing much atm
I caught some fish today
IamKing ASPIRES to be king…for example..IamKing is now…Saddam Hussein… bummer..
heh
GB — with all my grandkids and family - got enough to handle!
ok well, lets see then….how bout just vicountess over yer kids/grandkids?
IamKing is a conspiracy believer….
Harsen — sigh - I do miss fishing - but I told ya that already – uHarsen — sigh - I do miss fishing - but I told ya that already — /u GB — hehhehe
:O!!!
CRY — you are being silly again
Whats the biggest domestic problem we have today?
Kali…blame the NWO people..they inspired me…that is their lunacy did
hmmm was Bridget the Midget involved?
The congress that can get nothing done not sure Goony…that shadowy conspirator over there may know
hmmm he’s not talking
You usually don’t like the things it does when it gets things done
Kali..you have no idea how much typing this is saving me… Harsen…which proves my point
I think the major problem we face today domestically
actually…the biggest domestic threat in the US I see is our Income Tax System
is the fact that we have a system, which increasingly taxes works while subsidizing non-work work*
yes…Europe has that very problem
hell..o back
USA has that problem and Canada REALLY has that problem
not as bad as Europe…
No, not as bad as Europe but still there
our unemeployment is low… taxes are not choking our economy…..yet
Your unemployment is low, but your social welfare budget is unparalleled
why we need to address our tax system… boomers start retiring in 4-5 years
I wanna retire
JanetB..no retirement for you!!
oh wait, I can all I have to do is sell the store haha
we need flowerzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz JanetB…you would go stir crazy…
I would say 2 to 3 years and I will sell it
JanetB would become a MinuteWoman minuteafterIputonmakeupwoman
hahaha actually I only wear mascarra
30minutewoman
all the other stuff is to much trouble
heh
Cry - actually boomers start retiring in 2-3 yrs — though 5 is what one usually thinks about - as in age 65 - but many will retire early age 62 or 63 Cry - and anyone born in say 69 — retirement age is now 67 yrs of age
1946 + 65 = 2011 67 here… 2029 for me
so I get to retire at 62?
Cry - but you can still retire earlier than age 65 _baby boomers
65 is the standard retirement age…so they start from there
Janet — you might not be able to do so til 63 — it goes up by so many months
Social Security will not be able to cover payouts under current system….
I was born dec 58
2015 or so it will be insolvent
Cry — well - thats what some are trying to claim — SS is fine in reality -
JanetB 65 at least…maybe 67 like me now
they just got to get it OUT of general fund
Jakiuna..no it isn;t..because the money is spent as fast as it arrives.. there is no lockbox with SS money in it
naww… I am gonna retire at 50
Janet — hmm used to have my info handy — but — for those born in 58 - think you have to be 66 now
JanetB will not stay retired long
hahahah why do you say that
CRY - exactly what I said — they put SS in general funds — and its NOT just going to to SS recipients — its paying for a whole lot more than SS retirees
because for the simple fact you own your own flower shop
so
Kaliuna..thank LBJ for that..
I will not work for someone else
CRY — ya I know - have said it in here before..
but the boomers collecting will break the system as it currently stands.. One thing the fairtax does is it makes Social Security and Medicare solvent again…
CRY - unless the congress gets some backbone and starts collecting the IOUs taken from SS under LBJ and henceforth from there
Kaliuna…dream on….
CRY - don’t need fairtax to do that - just need to stop paying out SS $$$ to everything from some study of a little fish to building or improving a stadium in podunk jnctn
the fairtax addresses far more then that.,,
Janet — nor will I — I plan to do the early retirement route - and continue to work - which I can do — and earn so much per -
the way the with holding works now..easier to hide what you are taking
Cry - ya I’ve read the fairtax bit — has some good points, some well dream-on type points
I read the book 3 times…as it stood..alomst everyone gains..
no liberals around to bop on i should head to bed
except politicians and the IRS and the tax attorneys hehe
Harsen — well we can’t have libs to play with all the time –
heh
me too… night all
nite janet — sleep well
wait until a rabid NWO er comes to visit night JanetB
night CryHavoc
hehehe
heh
seeds prefered - gardening time starts in two months – well pre-planting for good garden growing…
maybe one day i will have my place to garden
cry - you don’t need a place - just some large containers!
no..I need my own place so as to be able to accomplish it
ha! I know better - have container gardened too…
yeah…but you have your own hose & property
Hi all My christmas company has left
hey CB
my house seems horribly quiet hi cry kali
CB the Konspiracy Kreator created lol
HI COMET!!!
The tribe has moved on?
a click of the mosue I can turn anyone into a conspiracy espouser hey TT
kali do you start many of your things in flatbeds? We have never had much luck doing that.
Cry - even when I lived in an apt with only a small patio - still grew peppers and tomotoes
Yo Cry
they always come up nice and then they die. lol
Comet — yes I do peppers, tomatoes and some marigolds… works fine
Kali,,,not gonna happen here until I have my own place to live,,,
I suspect that we start them too early
Comet — then your containers are not deep enough …
TT that Idea of mine ..its done!!
I’ll be the first to report here. Gerald Ford is dead.
he is??
well we use the standards flatbed containers .. the plastic ones for *starting* seedlings in.
Comet — no - start 6-8 weeks before planting time — I start some things 10 weeks - as they take longer to grow
Yes.
Who told you that!
kali my husband has considered putting one in the ground with glass over the top
Gromit — oh my - well he was ill
gerald ford is dead
Comet — best indoors with good light
I beat you to it, Jupa.
I do not see it on Google
They just broke into the program I was watching with the news.
well we don’t have a greenhouse .. and I don’t want them in front of the big windows inside the house
TheTailor its the Conspiracy script thing I was talking about yest
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/ There you go, Cry.
so he has been planting sets from the store. and having very good luck with those
Comet - ohhhhhhh well that explains it then… I prefer to grow my own from seed - might get one or two from stores –
Breaking news…
Breaking on Fox Gerald is dead
Ford has died 93
yes just heard
yup
yes..it is breaking news… not even on Google yet I bet he holds the age record for awhile…
ford was a great presidient and a great person!
He will be remembered for pardoning Nixon…..it was the proper thing to do History has judged him well and will continue to do so
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/26/D8M8VO581.html is showing the story as breaking news Gerald R. Ford, who picked up the pieces of Richard Nixon’s scandal- shattered White House as the 38th and only unelected president in America’s history, has died, his wife said. He was 93.
r.i.p ford
Requieascat an pace
at what time did ford die did he just die I am watching abc on my tv tunner
seems that way..or not too long ago
I think he requested a state funeral
what what time di dhe die
All Ex PResidentes get those anyways
God Bless Gerald R Ford and Betty Warren Ford
ok..I think I will go to bed…night peeps
crookeds do you want a state furenal
so who’s gonna be #3? brown, ford, _______
Stanton – you know one of the premier newcasters
“i’m a ford, not a lincoln”
and fidel castro
sports celebrity
is still alive
i pick oj
he was replaced a long time ago by an immortal robot
1975 air lifted in sygone
ford should have been re-elected presidnet
R.I.P Gerald Ford
openess of ford the ford white house was oh k he was a princiapal men
Yes
it would have been more fun however if he had crucified nixon
ford was one of us!
ford wasn’t bad
he brought morraility to the whit ehouse
he still could have impaled nixon upon thorns and picked him to bits
finally its on CNN
he would have gotten re-elected and we wouldn’t have had to suffer Jimmah Cahtah
wow cnn is bias
gopp is bias
Wow, was Gerald so little remembered that you had to put “became President after Nixon resigned?”
just a breaking news banner
well abc been talking abou tit it on drudge
u r 2 bias!
you don’t get live cnn Kaliuna on cband
cnn has had it for awhile
DarthStein!
gopp - yes we can … sheesh…
hmm how about fox I am putting fox right know
yo
I suppose Ford was actually the favorite president of my lifetime
R.I.P. President Ford.
He didn’t do a whole bunch of stuff
I am watching both abc and fox on the same screen
is that a sight or what bhaahha
ooooh…just like the future.
Well, he can be forgiven for that _Forbin sometimes I hung out with shady characters too
bhahaha
they got HAIR
But no scruples
yes theyre ready for a night of disco dancing !!
wow he was in favor of gun control moderate republican
Dick Cheney == Leisure Suit Larry (in the land of the legislative lizards)
AHA! no wonder the libs hate the man
He’s a big fat liberal
yeah Gerald was a true moderate.
He thinks the executive branch has penultimate power and hates the constitution
i just heard it on fox news
Gerald will go down as one of the best presidents ever
hardly
He didn’t do shit! which is GREAT
hmm
He will be known for his pardon of Nixon….it was the right thing to do
Cnn was just saying that, if he was active today, he’d be considered a far left republican
clinton will go down as the best president
lol
he was in favor of gun control
Naw, that part was a fuckup _Forbin
Cost him the election but he did the right thing
Nippon no he won’t
is it mandatory for all presidents to have that picture of them in some sort of deep concentrating quandry stare with a hand on theirhead?
clinton was bad
why not?
ford was a turd
Brak55 well, thats CNN for ya.
He should have hung that nixon bitch
Nippon he has no legacy
And broken off the deal with China
Just like Bush won’t
Brak55 the guy was no ultra right winger, over.
he runied the ecomony clintont aht is
no legacy? nasdaq hitting 10000+ is not a legacy?
He was pretty humble
Nippon that has nothing to do with clinotn
best economic period in our entire history?
Nippon clinton going over ms Nippon wrong
oh please
Nippon clinton going over ms, runied our ecomony Nippon the reason the
Nippon, can you name one long lasting accomplishment of the Clinton admin? beside the invention of the internet? no one else can either.
u republicans think the bushes were great presidents
I never said bush was
I hate the Bush’s Nippon
no u love him
but I never said clinton was the best
i know
No, I hate his guts
I am no Bush fan, cept for the Iraq thing, love that.
his dad too
you liberal think clinton was greatest president
both of u had orgasms when he said NUCEAR
you’ll come around on that someday
but I never said clinton was the best you liberal think clinton was greatest president
Iraq == big govt
brb hang on
Nippon acutally I don’t go crazy over one word unlike liberals I got a life
Iraq == doodoo
jhicks funny you said say that, FreeTra5w pushed the same angle.
How do you rate presidents when the times often color everything a President does?
Iraq is definitely making our govt sick no-bid contracts etc it’s increasing our own corruption
the clinton years will be come to be known as the eight years America was out to lunch.
I figure Bush will go down the same way
Kalo — time does the most when it comes to rating
I’ve actually come to miss his father
I miss Ashcroft.
jhicks there have been these ‘no bid contracts for several decades now… just public was not aware of them
there is a big stink brewing, it’s a new investigation
Ashcroft did an awesome job compared to gonxales
Dept of Interior/Pentagon
ok sorry where were we?
BIG shenanigans
Especially his groovy songwriting
jhicks — they will stop soon as they go back a few decades and discover oh ya been doing it that long ehh
Brak55 and the boob thing, and loosing to a dead democrat, that shit is just timeless
btw did anyone ever read confessions of an economic hit man?
I’m all for going back and imprisoning everyone still alive let’s do it! woop!
why should we read that
Yup, they just don’t make material like that anymore!
because we can read most republicans unlike
making their heirs pay back the ill-gotten proceeds, etc That would ROCK
Nippon did you read adam smith have you all of it
not yet
that more like my reading
Brak55 its a shame, man had principles, and stood by them. his senate confirmation hearing is oure comedy
then you can’t read
jhicks — well I know its been going on at least back into 70s for some things — cause well company I know had lowest bid on stuff - but got “turned down” cause some other company bid - at over 6 times higher $$
that really sucks
unlike liberal, we read real ecominics books and theory
Bush jr could have gone down as one of the best middle of the road, healing, controversial yet hardly damaging top 10 presidents ever and the first 9 months showed that…….then 9/11
it’s the root cause of so much bad crap in DC
wasnt he the guy who said we should have killed all indians?
jhicks - well see the company that got the bid - roundabout was related to some dem congress person on the committee — several cousin removed but friends….
then you can’t read === Oh Oh. GOPs being an ass again
right, that stinks STINKS
Nippon What policy did Bill Clinton implement to create millions of jobs?
Murtha got popped with his hand in the till.
jhicks — and that company STILL supplies goods to US gov’t — go figure…
Brak55 he said republicans can’t read he was the ass
it’s called ‘bribery’ fuckers
just using his logic
jhicks - ya once a company gets in - they are there almost forever…
You’re right…we’ve got a pair of asses
kickbacks, graft, corruption. and it infects both sides of the ‘aisle’ approximately equally
hmm answer my question Nippon
thats why their arguments are so shallow
Nippon What policy did Bill Clinton implement to create millions of jobs????
because nobody wants to rock the boat too much
jhicks real boats rock
jhicks - thats about it… yup
don’t change the subject
exactly
jhicks dudes go over board, fish eat them, its sad
were u even alive during the 90s?
I especially like offshore racing boats!
Nippon yes, i was.
VROOOM!
yes Nippon where you
no u werent
yes I was
jhicks nod nod
Nippon don’t change the subject
absolutely not
I was 17 when he was in office
thats why
Nippon What policy did Bill Clinton implement to create millions of jobs????
there is the problem
Nippon, can you name a great Clinton admin accomlishment?
I thought you never got laid before?
Nippon we will even give you Economics, even tho the man tried to fuck that up to
the 90s was his accomplishment !
Nippon What policy did Bill Clinton implement to create millions of jobs????
How?
answer the dam question Nippon stop trolling
i just did!!!
and answer my question Nippon no you didn’t
no, the internet was not handed down to us by Clinton on a platter.
It was Al Gore that invented the internet, not Clinton.
DARPA tried to do it but fucked up and Bill Joy had to fix it true story
whose VP was gore?
the army corp engineer dude?
The 90’s was just there, as any time frame is. “the 90s was his accomplishment” means absolutely nothing.
and answer my question Nippon
Berkeley Liberal
Gore was a fucking loon in the nineties, and he is even crazier now.
Nippon What policy did Bill Clinton implement to create millions of jobs???? What did he do what policy ???
yeah right
Nippon I won’t give up answer my question
NAFTA but the jobs were all created in Mexico
Nippon answer the stupid simple question
Nippon you do know AlGore was the committee head who signed off on Pre 911 airline security, right?
he eliminated the deficit
no he didn’t
LOL
Nippon I guess you can’t answer the questions
which allowed long term interest rates to come down
lol, no
that’s the standard neoclassical theory
whitecaps What policy did Bill Clinton implement to create millions of jobs?
As long as there is a national debt we have a deficit
i just gave the answer
No, whitecaps, he didn’t.
no matter how they hide the sausage
whitecaps that not a policy for job creation
RIP President Ford
uhh, no, you have a debt, not a deficit gopp, yes it is
That was an answer, but it was a lie.
Gerald Ford was also the last surving member of the Warren Commission
mostly they’re hiding the sausage up the taxpayer’s arse
that’s the standard neoclassical theory
whitecaps he majority of jobs that were created under the Clinton Administration were Internet related.
‘a lit’
UNF
‘a lie’ they were/
He never elimintated the deficit. he projected for future years but there was never a year during his presidency that there was not a debt
yes, it’s all a lie
the majority of jobs where internet jobs, that where created under clinton
prove it
Bill clinton veto’d the balanced budget how many times?
Well you see, Clinton doesn’t spend the moiney, he doesn’t do budgets.
three?
money that is
Brak55, I encourage you to learn the difference between deficit and debt
but i have to admit, bush is more fiscally liberal than clinton was
whitecaps The great boom of the Internet led to the creation of millions of jobs, which Clinton had nothing to do with. As a result of so many people working and paying taxes, there were large government surpluses. However, instead of attacking terrorism, Bill Clinton decided to use the Justice Department to attack Microsoft.
it led to the creation of a bubble gopp which burst
wow, that sure has a lot of ad homs
As a result of so many people working and paying taxes, there were large government surpluses.
jhicks Bush’s spending is so high, people are actually talking about cutting SPENDING.
http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdhisto4.htm — There is never a year where the debt did not grow.
whitecaps “As a result of so many people working and paying taxes, there were large government surpluses. “
but talk is cheap
oh yeah
yes, the pension related deficit continued to grow
ain;t that the truth over.
whitecaps There is a direct time line link between the decline of the NASDAQ and the ruling to break up Microsoft. As the NASDAQ declined many Internet companies failed or downsized.
correlation and causation
There were no surpluses
yes
And importantly, BUSH has made no mention of cutting spending in fact
becuase clinton went after ms for no reason
there wree non pension related surpluses
Bill Clinton’s administration, the one who supposedly single handedly gave us the internet, spent more money fighting with Microsoft than he did on Terror.
using the same accounting the present admin uses
he’s trying to keep as much stuff off the official budget as possible
you can’t cut spending when you’re at war
whitecaps instead of attacking terrorism, Bill Clinton decided to use the Justice Department to attack Microsoft.
sure you can
One of the first thing Bush did when he came into office was KILL the GOV’s lawsuit with MS
“projected” surplus was the best we got
boom dead.
Which of course wouldn’t ever happen either
and how does that compare to now?
Darth - there shouldn’t have been one in first place…
“we won, good day.” “and good bye”
neutering microsoft was a good idea
lol?
Kaliuna I know, but Democrats hate business more than they hate religion.
whitecaps As a result that is going after microsoft, millions of jobs were lost and government revenues declined. Bill Clinton was handed a great economy and with his actions only served to undermine it.
Darth — so it seems!
whitecaps Bill Clinton was handed a great economy and with his actions only served to undermine it.
actually, he was handed the aftermath of a recession
wrong again
gopp that is simply not true
as I said before, correlation and causation’
you’re so naive it’s scary
but, you aren’t a serious person
whitecaps his attack on ms cuased many internet
so, I think I’ll just ignore you
companies
Clinton was whitecaps?
bullshit gopp
to decline in stock value
OldSchool, right on cue, pushing the DOnk anti business line “MS was to BIG!” sniff “Only GOV can be THAT big!” sniff
Clinton was not handed a great economy. Economy was one of the things that killed Bush I
does tanking
was Clinton what?
somebody tell gopp that there were two bubbles that popped
the bush 1 recession was pretty mild to.
and there was little to do with microsoft in either one
Hardly, the policies of Bush one was what Clinton got, the recession was pver over
whitecaps Money in the hands of people stimulates the economy, whether they are rich or poor.
gopp, yes I have an economics degree thanks for that
rich people tend to stimulate MORE Donkeys hate that shit
whitecaps good it seems you where tought wrong ecominics
microsoft arm twisted thousands of companies out of business with unfair and predatory practices
or some liberal versin of it
you can’t even spell it right
whitecaps, so you are just lying then…
about what?
jhicks ayup.
whitecaps where did you get your degree from ecomonics
Clinton coming in in a recession
it seems they did a bad job
UBC I didn’t say that
oh ubc
but microsoft’s prosecution was NOT the cause of the tech bust
I said they had just come out of a recession
liberal universtity
whatever
whitecaps that the most liberal univeirsty in america they love clinton
gopp gives conservatism a bad name
he a great speaker thier
I doubt you even know what it is
no, I agree, the Tech Bubble bursting came from people selling stocks of solid air.
EXACTLY
Darth — ayup
lol ’slaves of the economy’
univeristy of bristish columbia
Oh the aftermath, that means GHW Bush had it right, and Clinton was handed a good economy.
Enron like accounting practices thrived under the 90’s, people were making the shit up as they went
you just had time to look it up
see
you spelled columbia right, try again
it not even americans whitecaps don’t tell me canada can speak of ecomonics
actually, there was concern of a double dip at the time Clinton came into office
with a falling ecomonics system
it was far from certain whether the economy would be good or not
candians should speak with 20% tax
we’ve produced a number of prize winning economists
That’s not what I remember
whitecaps you do, like who friedman
We who?
did milton friedman
Canada
was he born in canada
Robert Mundel, Richard Lipsey
And what prizes would those be?
whitecaps was milton friedman born in canada
those are probabgly the two most famous I did not know that
oh some stupid prize those prize mean nothing
I think they both won the Nobel Prize
same prize nobel that said jimm carter is noble person
listening to morons spout economic jargon is highly amusing to me, please continue.
