11.30.07

uh yeah sure youre telling me that youre an american atheist but not an American Atheist Dont you respect their

Posted in Politics at 9:30 pm by Michael Johnson

e-Hernick: heh, ahh humanists.

I’m defending that creationist macroevolution doesn’t exist

it doesn’t help if a false perception of what Evolution Theory does or doesn’t include is being used

Secular Humanism 4evah!

they’re also atheists.. just like the communists

e-hernick..once more…bullshait again

I’m an atheist, and I’m not a communist or a satanist.

well. saying anyone who disagrees with you is stupid is also not a good argument

that’s true … it doesn’t but not because of what you said … it doesn’t exist because they haven’t yet said what it is

oh sure, many atheists are neither communists nor satanists

one of those things doesn’t belong

that implies atheists are also communists…which will not wash

lol

I think you can be an atheist and a communist at the same time

no, many of them aren’t

Marxist/commies are atheist…because you can not place a cash value on religion

i think the communists were encouraged by the state to be atheist

thus to a commie..it is worthless

atheists communists and gays are all the same to social conservatives

religion is a thorn in commies’ sides

e-Hernick: you realize classical humanism is what helped created western civilization tho, right?

they chose to embrace the natural state of man, that of atheism, the communist state merely enforced that belief

no, its because marx/lenin knew that the state had to be above all other loyalties, including religion and family

tortus..the only real value of any one thing..is only the amout of cash it will bring!” (sic)

you realize that I am a self-avowed Agnostic Libertarian Transhumanist Atheist, right?

e-Hernick: the rediscovery of the classical humanism of the greeks & romans, the renaissance..

religion is a threat to central controlled economies

near the beginning of The Manifesto

I do acknowledge humanism.

e-Hernick: ohyeah.. i forgot..

communism is certainly not anything born out of the natural state of man…its very tenets go against human nature

e-Hernick: man thats a mouthful..

Even if I think that plain humanism is a little backwards.

I’m a gay atheist non-Republican, so I’m about as far removed from The Light[TM] as I can be as far as the right-wing is concerned, and yet, I still consider myself to be Conservative and Right-Wing, just with allegience to the Libertarian Party.

one million dollars

send it via Cashiers check…Paypal takes to big a cut

Cathy: im suprised we liberal libertarians don’t annoy you. heh

CountVlad is a holly roller independent…

are you anarcho libertarian?

I have trouble considering myself as either liberal or conservative.

Liberal Libertarians do annoy me, but I persevere.

I roll holly too

how come the catholic church is more progressive than the 40% conversative/fundamentalist christians in america?

Libertine….lol we are not Liberal Libertarians

tortus: no, im not anarcho

I mean, I will attack positions of both sides, but I am not the opposite of what I attack.

phew

what the hell does “progressive” mean?

Cathy would be annoyed by Constitutionalist Libertarians

CryHavoc: depends which decade we pluck ‘liberal’ from

it’s a codeword

they are aas about as harsh as it gets

ocdoc, progressive is also another word for liberal

no doubt

Actually, I love Constitutionalists.

progressive means you are smarter than anybody else. you hve progressed

not the way they use the word liberal in here

secular progressive is the label for an enemy of the religious regressives

pro?gres?sive /pr?’gr?s?v/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pruh-gres-iv] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

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–adjective 1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor. 2. making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community. 3. characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement. 4. (initial capital letter) of or pertaining to any of the Progressive parties in politics. 5. going forward or onward; passing successively from one member of a series to the next; proceeding step by step. 6. noting or pertaining to a form of taxation in which the rate increases with certain increases in taxable income. 7. of or pertaining to progressive education: progressive schools. 8. Grammar. noting a verb aspect or other verb category that indicates action or state going on at a temporal point of reference. 9. Medicine/Medical. continuously increasing in extent or severity, as a disease.

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–noun 10. a person who is progressive or who favors progress or reform, esp. in political matters.

I mean, the Religious Regressives are by definition opposed to the Secular Progressives.

11. (initial capital letter) a member of a Progressive party. 12. Grammar. a. the progressive aspect. b. a verb form or construction in the progressive, as are thinking in They are thinking about it.

gnk-, 3you are devoiced (Requested by G1ock21 )

gnk-: stop!

boink…

stop it stop it stop it

now see, i would have been banned for that

Gnked….to be devoiced for text flooding

you would have been banned for much less!

only if it were intentional

e-hernick…..wahwahwah fucking wah

wtf kind of shitty ass c/p was that?

waH wah!

that’s a circular definition … now you need to define “progress”

pasted from dailykos

dailykooks

walking in a circle is progress of a kind, but it’s not any kind of progress to be desired

progress is the opposite of regress. Progress is working for something good, whereas regress is working for something bad.

No more of that please

OcDoc unless yer grinding grain

now you have to define “good”

was that the ‘time-out room?’

regress is Congress

get my drift?

good is what I feel is true

true

for some people, good is what god tells them

thus Progress is the opposite of Congress

so if my progress disagrees with your progress then I’m not a progressive … useless concept

Mr Bush…BUILD THAT WALL!!

I suppose you’re right

MOVE THAT BUS!!

therefore, I sustain that it is nothing but a codeword used to identify the worst kind of liberals

I agree, but saying so doesn’t solve the problem

what is the problem anyway

leftwing and rightwhing are how I define the dangerous extremes

that of throwing words around without good definitions

II wish i did not lose my friend to christian fundamentalist, eg she is only friends with people who want to be like jesus (this is an intolerant view of other religions)

oh for pete’s sake… Kerry made ‘A Blooper?’

they’re labels and codewords to be used as a way for me to discredit my political opponents..

wing implying the part that stretches furthest form the center

Freudian slip, perhaps?

simply calling someone a secular progressive, if I’m a right-winger, is enough to discredit him in front of my peers

Kerry is a walking blooper

correct

OcDoc, it’s Howard Dean’s comment

e-hernick…..stop hanging with greenfreak ELFies then

and THAT’S the problem in my opinion

Kerry is a Bleeper

Freudian slip. that’s what Kerry’s done.

yeah, that is what he did…

Kerry is rich…he was the one who wuld have called a draft…

no, I mean perhaps subconsciously he really does think anyone who had to go to Iraq was a loser

now he implies Bush will do so…

Oh, no doubt

indeed, it’s a way to simplify political discourse for the masses. By using these labels, we can easily tag and smear our political opponents, and generat disgust towards them and their opinions. You know in advance what the opinion of a secular progressive is, without even asking him - and it’s the opposite of yours.

I’d rather have a Jesus Freak that upholds the Constitution than an atheist who wouldn’t. Even though I’d probably get along better with the atheist at the dinner table.

why, do you support the ALF and Greenpeace instead?

that is everything I hate about the political process

Glock21….the Jesus freak would be after Amendment #1 the atheist would prob let it all be

the clue there is “upholdin the constitution”

e-hernick…no way…

regardless of religious affiliation

nor do I support WAR or the Birchers

just what makes someone a ‘Jesus Freak?’

they are as pestilential as an ELFie

look, the christians founded this country.. and they made the first amendment.. whereas the atheists would love nothing more but to ban religion and to call all true christians jesus freaks

CryHavoc… I don’t know… most of the christian coalition nutbags don’t seem too intent on establishing a national religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof… while atheists do often fight against the free exercise thereof.

e-hernick…DEISTS founded this country….

people who are interested in christianity to the exclusion of everything else

exactly

the Constitution they scribbled was SECULAR the holy rollers want prayer in the schools…

yeah right.. I’m sure you can find a few closet deists out there, but most of the Fouding Fathers were god-fearing christians, and the constitution is clearly a religious document.

of course…they want Christian prayer…

prayer is school is a good idea.

not all atheists … and I doubt that even a majority of atheists are so inclined

Dean is trying to dismiss Kerry’s slip as akin to a ‘wardrobe malfunction’

I’m an atheist, but most of the gripes I have with the christian coalition types is their motivation for certain policies and full disagreement with some policies.

once that is worked into the state….only a matter of time before anything not Christian is arrested

Not any constitutional concerns with Amendment I

For so long as there are tests, there will be prayer in schools.

then we could be like Europe

I would go so far as to say that MOST atheists would oppose restricting free exercise of religion

what about the Supreme Atheist Leader Mary Magdalene Murray O’Hair or whatever whe is called

speech is never accidental

OcDOc…you bet…as long as it does not impugn them… that is..out of Governmental instutions

maybe she is an example

OcDoc… most, yes, its the angsty minority that gets the headlines though

she spoke for all American Atheists.

from the comments i hear/read, you’re either an athiest or a Jesus Freak…

as the Leader of AA, the American Atheists.

bullshit

there doesn’t seem to be any middle ground

same as transgenders……fuck if I care about them…as long as they do not seek to convernt everyone

I never belonged to the organization and most atheists never have either

Lupine’s reaction to Cathy is priceless!!

bah… she hardly spoke for all the militant minority of atheists, let alone a majority, or all.

uh yeah sure, you’re telling me that you’re an american atheist but not an American Atheist? Don’t you respect their promotion of your religion?

wait..atheists are organized?

Atheism is NOT a religion

I am an atheist in the absence of belief in god …

do not drag me down to that level

yes, very much so. they have their churches and their gurus and their web sites..

A botched joke? Well, Kerry… don’t give up the day job… No, on second thought…

Her group’s name versus all atheists in america is a big friggin difference.

I have no religion

e-hernick…once again…bullshit

huh, what?

I thought you were an atheist

Atheism is not a religion

organized atheism is contradictory

well, they all gather together and pray against god

I consider myself to be atheistic

its an attempt of those who believe in that rot to belittle the concept

Atheism could be described as a religion. it’s having faith that God does not exist

I disagree…

absence of belief is not organize belief … religion is organized belief

Atheism is one way to answer the question “Is there a God?” The other answer is theism, which leads also to deism, polytheism, etc.

indeed, I agree completely.

atheism is not a religion..we do not worship anything

you worship God’s death..

it is not dichotomy.

not god or icon or man or dragonfly

atheism may be a belief

Neither theism nor atheism is more or less valid than the other. They are both co-equal answers to the question.

you worship nothing

it is not a religion

belief set…yes…

also I hear you worship that spaghetti thing

worship god’s death? wtf are you smoking???

religion…no way

Might as well say we worship the tooth fairy’s death

Flying Spaghetti Monster!!!

We don’t fucking believe in the fucking thing.

Glock…that Iraqi info minister Gold is POWERFUL shit

exactly.. what a ridiculous belief to hold..

Jackass

what belief?

The answer “yes” is just as valid or invalid as the answer “no”. And in that, atheism is just as much a religion as theism is.

that spaghetti thing you mentionned

wrong

Cathy… nonsense

but some atheists organize others and therefore are brainwashing people

I don’t hold it

One is a belief, the other is a lack of belief.

it is a spoof a belief in a higher power is a religion

ahah.. I saw your flying spaghetti monster on national television, it’s no spoof ahah.. I saw your flying spaghetti monster on national television, it’s no spoof

a lack of belief in a higher power is a belief, but not a religion

it’s the true belief of many atheists that this should be taught in school alongside evolution

OcDoc… http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/religion

Flying Spaghetti Monsterism

There’s a few meanings, but atheism hardly fits in any

fuck the dictionary

e-hernick…education should be secular… if you want to talk God..Philosophy is for that

Atheism is a faith. It is a faith that god does not exist, for any answer to any question relating to the existence or non-existence of a God or gods must require faith to beleive.

Cathy… BZZZT

nope … tough luck but no

yes, that’s why it should not favor science or atheism, but give credence to all theories equally.. I mean, Intelligent Design should get equal time with Creationism and Evolution

Cathy I disagree…I do not have …faith in atheism…..

Cathy… the inherent flaw with your logic is it still involves god, not in our worldview.

I see no verifiable proof of God existing

aren’t you convinced that god doesn’t exist anymore that’s faith..

that’s not what he or I believe, no

God and Satan are personifications of what is good and evel in Mankind…

by that arguement, it applies to everything possible

then you admit your belief in god?

they are NOT actual entiutes entities

Only things that relate to God.

faith isn’t equal to god

you have “faith” there is not an invisible green rock at in your wall.

e-hernick…I already said…god is a fairy tale…

I see no evidence that god exists, therefore I do not believe god exists … it is not the same thing as saying I DO believe god DOESN”T exist

You also have “faith” there is not an invisibl egrene rock exactly 1 nanometer to the left of that rock.

Cathy’s argument essentially says that atheists are religious because every question they’d have to answer in relation to something they don’t believe in requires them to believe in it to answer it. ff

do you know how many men of women of faith you are dissing, including the PRESIDENT of the USA?

You also have “faith” there is not also a red rock

e-hernick…has it crossed your tiny mind that I may not give a fuck?

I didn’t say that atheists were religious. I said that atheism is a religion.

tough

ahteism is NOT a religion…..

Cathy… semantic hell

right

Atheism requires no beliefs, it is a lack of a belief.

and I suppose that agnosticism is a religion as well?

yer not puling me down to the level of superstitous fairy tale land

do you know how many men of women of faith you are dissing, including the PRESIDENT of the USA?”

I have faith that science is the best way to aquire knowledge about natural laws … therefore I believe in science

dude

for ( i=0,j=0,k=0; iinf, jinf, kinf; i++,j++,k++ ){ belief there is no item “i”, in coordinates “j”, in time “k” }

Sundodger keeps harassing me in message

he was saying that belief in god was belief in a fairy tale

ishi…it means that e-hernick is a headles wonder….

gotta go

yes it is… the Bible is a book of Fairy tales…

fairy tales

but entertaining…Grimms were better though

you have faith there is no book weighing exactly 5.4325908707986238716532 decigrams exactly 4.8765852635276352532nM infront of your face for exactly 5.329843729846278632 seconds

you are attacking the beliefs of hundreds of millions of honest hard-working americans byou are attacking the beliefs of hundreds of millions of honest hard-working americans/b

Liberal Violins…

and you have faith for every iteration possible, across every location, of every possible time

liberal…

here comes the ‘for the children” part…

As if people aren’t generally socialized to believe all sorts of crap.

you’re probably a liberal secular progressive.. who doesn’t care about wheter The Children are taught the right moral values, that the Founding Fathers wanted us to teach them..

when you jack yer .45 back and hear a slug in the chamber…is that faith??

Herzen you dont have that pos on ignore?

e-hernick…..lolol

Whether it be religion, politics, sex theories, etc… people generally don’t know wtf they’re talking about.

I agree

Americans are no exception.

I am a rather Harsh Constitutional Libertarian…..the worst nightmare of any Democrat or Republican supporter

Christians are no exception.

I shit on commies…and religious right

As I said before this discussion, I consider myself to be an Agnostic Libertarian Transhumanist Atheist.

HHAHHAHAHHA South Park is right on it tonight :-)

cryhavoc is really just a scared little boy

e-hernick you are a whiny-ass flamebaiter….

everybody shits on commies

whatever, during this discussion you made yourself out to be an ignoramus, and that’s the important part.

and that is bad how?

indeed

crazy, here comes another election scandal

Swiggy actually is on KKK’s ( Kanada Kustom Kares) Advisory board

funny i was just talking about this earlier

I started my involvement by declaring myself god, doesn’t really matter.

WASHINGTON — Two federal agencies are investigating whether the Bush administration tried to block government scientists from speaking freely about global warming and censor their research, a senator said Wednesday.

that is bad in the way that commies need to be loved, not hated, because hate leads to anger, and anger leads to dislike, and dislike leads to the dark side.

e-hernick: I submit myself to your teachings

commies need to be stomped into the dirt…

death to commies! down with communism!

and their shitstained ideology tossed into the furnace

up with capitalism!

Democratic Sen. Frank Lautenberg said he was informed that the inspectors general for the Commerce Department and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration had begun “coordinated, sweeping investigations of the Bush administration’s censorship and suppression” of federal research into global warming. what a riot

Captialism works….communism does not Louderterd RottenBerg I nee more cigs….brb

http://www.jeb.org/ lol such a plain looking site but i like it

lol.. cartman can’t wait for the PS3, so he’s freezing himself to be thawed in time

heh jeb is a catholic and george is a methodist, i’d like to see their debates at dinner :p

HAHHAHAH SouthPark.. Mr Garrison now beieves in the spaghetti monster

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/11/1/214042/169 why do they do this skewing polls to misrepresent the truth can only harm them

“yea, pound my monkey hold richard!”

dems might see the fake poll results and think they dont need to go and vote i love the intelligence of these people

lol.. take off of Buck Rogers time-warp now :-)

do you know why the secular liberal democrats hate the war on iraq? it’s because they wanted america to go over there to establish a secular liberal democracy in iraq

i got a booklet today hanging on my doorkob knob

they actually approved of Saddam’s reign

whereas the religious republicans wanted to form a religious republic, and they got their wish, an islamic republic

it’s a recipe book written by a candidates wife filled with propaganda

cyberfr0g lol. unique idea

culinary propaganda! was it from a liberal or from a conservative

does it have a recipe for brownies?

e-Hernick why does it matter

this channel is….interesting

complete with “add 1/2oz of a special herb for extra taste”

crazy idea regardless

lol

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330045393851

bud`: because if it’s from a conservative, then it’s full of patriotic recipes.. from a liberal, it’s full of anti-american recipes

all kinds of stuff i won’t say which side it came from

6 DAYS Until the RepCon DAY of DOOOOM !!

but it’s pretty pathetic

Democ VIVA LE REVOLUCION!!

hah

well, it’s pathetic if it came from the liberals

John Kerry’s ethics. Never used, slightly worn

a small part of me wants the dems to win just so we can see how much worse it can get

cyberfr0g = liberal democrat

cyberfr0g, you’re a masochist

that’s crazy

lol

I don’t believe that number

cyberfr0g, it can’t get any worse..

Lupine| yah, they like the industrial mouthwash alcohol

wanna bet?

otherwise it’d make great smirnoff commercials

do you have a house over your head?

the dems win, we are looking at 2 yrs of investigation, indictments, oversight, and scandal

“Drink smirnoff.. because other vodkas kill up to 30000 russians a year”

dems would hand Iraq over to binladen

may not be bad, but also is not good impeachment

won’t happen

smirnoff is now made in the USA I think

cyberfr0g, we’re a big fat soft target and we’ve pissed off a billion muslims.. and the borders are wide open..

yeah, and they would keep financing binladen with direct donations

i am not sure that is the way to move the american dream forward i think i will vote republican, despite their arrogance

so it CAN get worse … they could get in

the way to move the american dream forward is to stay the course

I guess bin laden wouldn’t be satisfied with a basketball

cyberfr0g, they’re already here

sigh

whiny americans

cyberfr0g, do you feel safe?

i haven’t felt safe since i was 5

Sales of big pickup trucks and SUVs went through the roof - doubling from the year before in some cases. Sales of small, fuel efficient cars, meanwhile, remained stagnant. It is as if all that moaning and groaning about price gouging by oil companies never happened.

it has nothing to do with terrorists i don’t trust people any people

democrats are mostly disenfranchised. they are pissed. they are also not rational

cyberfr0g, lolz, rather paranoid I’d say

that is the fact i will vote republican

realisim not paranoia

were gonna be hearing about this new scandal/whitehouse investigation of global warming coverup for the next few days. however you’ll never hear how the NASA guy’s position was bought and paid for by Heinz/Kerry money

good for you

democrats are not seeing straight

Chevy Tahoes and Suburbans, and Cadillac Escalade in October to double and triple the rates of a year ago. At the same time, they walked away from economical Chevy Aveos and Cobalts, sending sales of those vehicles down 31 percent and 43 percent respectively.

your idea of being safe is we stopped being safe when we invaded iraq … i’m saying we we’ve never been safe

why are all democrats disenfranchised?

something about revenge. it is not about the state of the union, fersure

you watch a lot of fox news?

cyberfr0g, you don’t know what my idea of safe is, but I can say for a certainty it isn’t what we’ve got now ucyberfr0g, you don’t know what my idea of safe is, but I can say for a certainty it isn’t what we’ve got now/u

so the dems will fix everything right? make the world not hate us?

i don’t suppot voting in a group whose main objective is to show they are justified in their hatred its stoopid

cyberfr0g, that might be a tall order, since bush has poisoned the waters of love

there is no love

if your best discourse is about a news channle. then you re needy

poisoned the waters of love?! what the christ are you talking about

the bufallo blizzard was bush’s fault. too those homeys couldn’t get out and get their cold 45 and gold jewelry. err colt 45s

if your entire argument is ad hominem attacks without reference then you are sadly lacking

guess what. europeans/canadians/aussies/basically EVERYONE with a leftist govt has HATED YANKS long before Bush ever came to DC

cyberfr0g, yes, I took poetic license..

As bad as the republicans are, and they are incompetent dishonest wimps, the democrats are far worse. If you have followed Gore, Kerry,, Schumer, et al, for the last 20 years as I have, you know they are part of the problem, not part of any solution. In fact, no one can name any “solutions” they have offered up. For the economy, for Iraq, for terrorism, nothing

is there any profesors of politics?

the dems are against war, pro tax.

so you’re saying that bush has made everyone hate us and there’s no turning back?

what else do you need to know?

so we just “Stay The Course”?

The entire foundation of today’s democrats is “no matter what it is, raise taxes”. funkula, yep, unless you have a better idea

sure dude

cyberfr0g, is that what I said or are you in error?

so how would you have responded to 9/11, the worst attack on the USA in our history?

the reflexive antiwar position is not rational

go for a walk in the park with Osama and try and talk it out?

someone somewhere needs to evaluate the wars

unfortunatly i am unable to decypher your “poetic license” … perhaps you should try speaking in non-lame terms

im all for bombing the living funk out of terrorists

that’s what we’re doing in Iraq everyday.

dumb it down for my stupid ass

as we speak, in fact.

nobody is a terrorist in the liberal mind

what is wrong with calling the big bang theory a theory?

I am against this war and have been since Day One, when we turned from Afghanistan to Iraq. Howver, now as deep as we are into it, if we pull out now it can only get much worse

Democ weren’t you Majority0 yesterday?

no…we blow the hell out some guys that were never at Tora Bora but of course to the conservative mindset…anyone from the middle east must die

ok tha’ts it

tora bora was a huge mistake. should have dropped a couple daisy cutters on that hilltop and been over it.

you could read my posts that evening. i said…killthem

cyberfr0g, laughs, I’m afraid I can’t think that dumbed down..

which is hardass

I concur.

hah, you’re an arrogant ass

I guess my only point is that Iraq has become the front on the war on terror, and we can’t just back out. I know it’s unpopular, but it’s the right thing to do.

cyberfr0g, and you’re a knuckle dragger.. so it is

we can back out, but we can’t name a date and if we back out, we have to give the govt in iraq every opportunity to savew that nation

I think we’ll have perm bases there in the end, like we do in Kuwait.

doug no worries, the majority are well aware of whats going on, who declared war on us, where they are fighting us, and aren’t spinning this b.s.

bud`: I sincerely hope so.

yp

go after everybody they can.

prolly the main strategy in the first place. get a base in the middle east thatis not subject to saudi aproval

not really a bad idea, either.

we have the base

There are too many other issues that repubs worry about other than Iraq to vote for a dem over a repub… guns, social issues, taxes, etc… and dems hardly have a cohesive strategy for what they’d do, or even be able to do about the Iraq situation if they won the House.

that is the crucial fact we already have it

gun control is mostly a dead issue.. I think the dems learned in 94 when they lost 54 seats.

doug, wrong. There are two disgusting anti gun bills waiting patiently for that time when the democrats resume power

52 seats wasn’t it?

with dems in control they will slip in all kinds of gun control things under the radar

doug… dead issue on the national level… but local and regional (such as US house seats) it still comes up.

dems in control in 06 will mean, subpeonas, investigations. oversight, blame blame blame

I’d be really suprised if they passed them. I’m sure they’d love it, but I blame things like the assault weapon ban for the 94 GOP takeover.

Dont ever make the mistake in thinking that things like gun control are ever far from the far leftist mind. They know dam well that citizens dont deserve or need the right for self defense, at least certainly not in the form of firearms.

what’s new with foley

A dem majority is scary to most NRA types… and there’s a few million of us.

gimme my nick, yo

i don’t think that is the best path at this point. the enemy is looking at how the us responds to the current situation in iraq, and other nations

greetings — HI TWO

doug, I’ve been watching liberals and the gun thing for 35 years.

hi Glock

I’ve been using this for years, no

all they learned from 94 is to do things without the American people seeing it

Hey Kali

what, are you some kind of irc warrior or something??

abum, Foley resigned. Liberal news media kept on about him for weeks after he left. The opposite of if he’d been a democrat.

irc warrior cheif.

6 more days till impeachment

hi Kaliuna

I don’t know what is so scary about a dem majority in congress, there was dem majority for 40 years, lolz

err, chief

20 years from now, the foley scandal will not be a blip on elvis’ radar

won’t you feel like an ass when the day comes and not a single dem gets elected?

Democ, its not scary, its just….wrong

a single one?

Democrats should only be allowed to vote on who has the best hair

Democ… well most repubs didn’t like that, and find a return, scary

id take that bet

I’m the vice president of the pennsylvania firearm owners association, I know all about the liberal gun control mindset.. I just would hope that they learned their lessons in 94.

i should say “if” not “when” because even though it would be funny to see it probably won’t happen

cyberfr0g, abum IS an ass

and now that the reps have proven that they can’t govern competently, the dems will be places back in charge..

lol bill all this talk is nonsense

I’m sure they’ll eventually rear their heads again, but I hope it’s not for a long long time.

yea way to backtrack

d^

doug — unfortunately they haven’t they want REVENGE

they should just shut this channel down until nov 8th

oh no tortus, eeek!

then we can start all over again

Democ… that’s what dems said in 2004… and repubs gained even more seats.

foley does not have good hair. good hair for talking heads and politicians right now is blowdried sprayed helmet. the yoot do not concur

Democ… we’ll see if it actually happens this time.

doug, I am a total gun nut and have been involved in the industry for 30 years. If you think that leftists are done with guns, than you will make one of the biggest and saddest mistakes one can make: underestimating your enemy.

yep, they need liberal activist judges to get it done too, because there’s no way they’ll get it done at the ballot box.

G1ock21, odd, I didn’t see the dems say that..

dems don’t need to vote, they think they’ve already won

abum! But but, Pelosi said she wouldn’t i,peach Bush if they let her be speaker!

doug — for sure — and BTW - I am also a gun person and I have permit to carry

good for you.. I wish everyone was.

is it up to her

i am

Democ you want a good laugh visit the logs of this channel the week before elections in 04. all the *same exact shit* like you’re saying now

amazing

doug, as I said, there are two bills RIGHT NOW waiting for enough liberal votes to pass. One of them will take us back to the days of the clinton gun ban only make it permanent. udoug, as I said, there are two bills RIGHT NOW waiting for enough liberal votes to pass. One of them will take us back to the days of the clinton gun ban only make it permanent./u

doug - I( grew up in hunting family — go figure!

i bring my tank whenever i go out

cyberfr0g, shut the chan down lolz

Democ… between Bush, Iraq, etc, it was a sure deal… then they lost seats.

do you know who the sponsors are? and the bill numbers? I’d love to post them to the PAFOA forum.

doug, in fact, there is one other bill they want to pass. Instead of a ten round ban , it will be SIX doug, no, I dont.

Probably the most downtrodden place in the world was my pub the next day… some of the libs that frequent there were openly eeping.

G1ock21, what are you saying, that the dems said it was a sure deal or you thought they thought it was a sure deal?

I suppose I could google it.

from my cold dead hands

weeping, even

aloha

the dems did not weep until scotus spanked gore, a few weeks later

Democ… the dems on here and in my area thought it was a sure deal and were not shy about it… pundits seemed a bit more reserved, but not by much.

and that was not weeping. that was cries of betrayal

When society becomes ’successful’ , a good portion of the population finds it doesn’t have to think any more. And you have severe problems in critical thinking. And you get today’s far leftists, who actually think they are quite moderate.

“what? the courts didn’t give us what we wanted?”

Thats’ why so many are out there today. Iv’e watched it change since the sixties. YOU WANT PROOF….. Go look at the makeup of the democrat party then and now

The rhetoric that the GOP is ‘going down’ sounds nearly identical to me from 2 years ago.

And you will find that JFK and all of the democrats back then were nothing like the far leftists that own the democrat party of today

dems have been sounding the call for the demiose of republicans since they lost all branches. they will continue. not to worry. its their job.

Same reasons… Iraq, Bush is the worst, blah blah blah, the country is going to hell, etc, even Torah Bora

Why are they like this? Because…they can’t THINK.

-h

G1ock21, ahh, the dems in this chan, well, the pres election was very close and there was not a groundswell of negativity against a rubber stamp rep congress in 04 driven by ever dimimishing support for the iraq occupation

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