10.23.07
lets talk about something that actually matters three days before the test from north korea the UN said DONT
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) — South Korean Foreign Minister Ban Ki-Moon was formally nominated as U.N. secretary-general on Monday, only hours after North Korea defied the world body by announcing a nuclear test. The U.N. Security Council voted by acclamation, thereby effectively anointing Ban as successor to Secretary-General Kofi Annan, whose 10 years in office expire on December 31, said Japan’s U.N. Ambassador, Kenzo Oshima, this month’s council president.
It is no arguement but a discussion… and what the depand I’m engaged in is with KoBushi and his statement that NORAD doesn’t monitor North American airspace check the buffer pal
you mean john bolton didn’t get it?
maybe SOMETHING will get done in the UN now
HAH!
They couldn’t even handle hurricane relief, yet we are to belive that they would have behaved flawlessly reguarding a terroist hijacking if not for some administrative oder not to?
if i cared about the discussion i would have … thx though
fat chance Lup|ne
NORAD doesn’t monitor NA ? dude
yea, no kidding
what does NORAD stand for?
its a conspiracy….Sadaam was a honorary Skull and Bones, and revealed the dreaded inner secrets
KoBushi:?
And that, despite the HUGE amounts of leaks from this administration, no one has leaked such an order having been given? Of the THOUSANDS of people that wuld have had tor ecieve it?
BERLIN (Reuters) - A small pile of leftover jelly discarded beside the road after a wedding party caused a large-scale security alert in Germany with biochemical experts, firemen and police called in to investigate.
pilgrim`:That’s a totally rediculous comment
It’s a cult of silence
Politick North American AEROSPACE Defence Cmmand
YES
Politck it was in keeping with the current conversation
Politick not North American air traffic control
and your saying they didn’t monitor North American airspace since after 9/11 ?
bahahah this is still going on?
ok do you still believe that ahh
The truth is the only government complicity was letting the bastards into the country in the first place
well who said they direct commertial airtraffic?
iirc a Canadian was OD on 9/11 in Crystal Palace
They let any loser in ‘multiculturism’ BA BAH
but I make ridiculous comemnts so whadda I know?
not much like most americans
and politick is still setting up and knocking down the ‘you still say they dont monitor north american airspace since after 9/11?’
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=3
don’t feel bad about it it’s your educational system
+strawman
.IL ?
not your own doing I find no fault in your own persona
WOPR was down for repairs on 9/11 coincidence? I think not!
lupine
It was playing scrabble
Well what do you have to say?
uh he gave you a cite
Politick http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=3
NORAD doesn’t direct cival air traffic… uhh duhh smart comment very
but we both know you will ignore facts
hahah then he quotes that popular mechanics white wash hahah JOKE
see? evidence is rejected
white wash bahahhahaha
lol
if it’s a fact then back it up
Politick I did http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=3 they give sources
crap, a half-TRILLION a year for defense and only 14 jets allocated for North American defense?
Yeah popular mechanics had been in the lieing business for decades
interviewies,etc
the ‘back it up’ is done in the foot notes and sources cites of the article
WHAT A RIPOFF!
welcome to the castration of the 90s
yup, pretty screwed up eh?
but we forgive you its obviously your educational system
Duck Cunnigham types more interested in milking us
jhea again… ineffective an inefficient :/
where is .il from ?
Let’s give them MORE MONEY!
isreal
and during the cold war we had about 100 bombers full of nukes in the air on 24/7
ok regarding the “blips” one thing I’d like to say
Why couldn’t ATC find the hijacked flights? When the hijackers turned off the planes’ transponders, which broadcast identifying signals, ATC had to search 4500 identical radar blips crisscrossing some of the country’s busiest air corridors. And NORAD’s sophisticated radar? It ringed the continent, looking outward for threats, not inward. “It was like a doughnut,” Martin says. “There was no coverage in the middle.” Pre-9/11, flights orig
you don’t think they can basically TiVO the radar data huh?
* “There was no coverage in the middle.” Pre-9/11, flights originating in the States were not seen as threats and NORAD wasn’t prepared to track them.*
that the data isn’t buffered/recording for playback and review? well huh well?
Politick “There was no coverage in the middle.” Pre-9/11, flights originating in the States were not seen as threats and NORAD wasn’t prepared to track them.
Men can’t figure out how to use TiVO
you are consistent at least in ignoring facts
DF27 was on station over washington, but reported a negative radar contact..
this is so and is possible you don’t think it would be EASY to identify what planes changed flight course ? huh well ?
research indicates most women do better with TiVO
Politick not wt the transponders turned off genius
uh politick you think the radars show projected tracks well huh?
WHAT
* moderatum gives voice to KILL-BUSH
is it easy to sort 4500 dots well huh well?
interesting
lol
first off what do you know about those transponders
wahahah
Just my opinion, thats all.
your talking about ACARS
he just keeps going
KILL-BUSH: I’m just sore because they won’t give ME +v
Why couldn’t ATC find the hijacked flights? When the hijackers turned off the planes’ transponders, which broadcast identifying signals, ATC had to search 4500 identical radar blips crisscrossing some of the country’s busiest air corridors. And NORAD’s sophisticated radar? It ringed the continent, looking outward for threats, not inward. “It was like a doughnut,” Martin says. “There was no coverage in the middle.” …
(automatically)
ok on replay you could see what dot turned off their transponders
wahaahaha
Thats because I have a nice nick.
yea.. air traffic controllers have TIVO connected to their radar screens
KILL-BUSH: If my mom looked like the Quaker Oats man I’d wanna die.
there’s no dot to see once it is off
sure just replay the dots you dont have to worry about CURRENT conditions or crashes or anything
at what point that happened then follow that blip with no transponders
i’m afraid KoBushi has the facts correct
cyberfr0g Politick is afraid too
Iff trasnponders or civilian acar?
you’d think it would be easy considering those 4 planes would be the ONLY onest that had the ACARS transpondar turned off
Politick yes, because it’s easy to find 4 among 4500
he wouldn’t know his ILS from his refreshment cart
if all other planes had the transponder turned off thinking 180degrees in reverse
One of the reasons you could not hook up tivo to the radar is because the FAA has 1980’s traffic control equip
you’d think it would be EASY to identify the planes
and its cool with you that we just start ignoring whats happening NOW on the screens for ‘play back’
if i recall you either view transponders or radar views and you can’t easily switch between the two except for the advanced systems which most traffic controlers don’t have access to
because again
Politick the radar and transponders don’t overlap on one screen
Does it matter if it’s incompetence or intent? The outcome is the same.
they would be the only planes with those said transponders turned off
gee! we pay these gravel truck drivers enough!@ you woudl THINK they coudl find 4 distnict rocks in the quary!
Politick the radar and transponders don’t overlap on one screen
Politick it’s no likc you can say “show me only rdar for planes that have no transponders”
what do you mean?
not it’s not a fucking google boolean search
transponder and radar are 2 completely different systems
love-bush: bipolar, eh?
love-bush: MAKE UP YER DAMNED MIND
and are NOT integrated
this is whats wrong with america! PEOPLE CANNOT DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT
flip-flopper!
And then they wonder why the government has to step up to the plate!
wow these 9/11 conspiracy guys scare me
them beach life guards are here every day, you woudl THINK they could find 4 distinct grains of sand!
listen the ACARS data is superimposed over the radar data on the terminal
me too
your not talking to a luddite here guys
bun-bun: I ain’t skeered
I have my ticket
i’ll whup thar ass!
ok, this isn’t really fun.
lol stonewall easy
hehe
ticket to ring a ling brothers circus ?
politick you seem somewhat less then repleate with certitude
ok and with that no other comments? know you can’t forward your disinfo
you also understand the difference in range between radar and transponders right?
FEMA sent death squads to every radar installation on 9/11.. and secretely replaced the FAA workers with clones
I’ll go all redneck on they ass!
Politick *shrug* so as I said, your conspiracy requires rejection of fact and suspension of occam’s razor… as well as a belive in goverment agency efficiency that just doesn’t exist
lol
sure
belief*
Need some Jim Beam to fuel up first then LOOKOUT
and don’t forget no leaks in the thousands of people who knew
I still say its a skull and bones thing….and the cheer leader Sadaam spilled the beans to
i think its the martians
what thosands of people that knew what?
bun-bun indeed… or mabe they were all SECRETLY killed?
pilgrim`: Isn’t that a homosexual cult at Yale?
its an early distraction so they can position the red weed before landing
there is a mass grave somewhere of all the people who heard the 9/1 orders to stand-down and not resond to the hijackers
pilgrim`: so it would have been a MALE cheerleader then !
ok you guys debunk stuff that’s fine and it’s good to be a critical thinker that’s healthy
well lets see about what avg 150+ people per plane? with an average of 6 people per ‘person on the plane’ (friends and family (THIS number is intentionally low possibly by an order of magnitude))
Opportunism isn’t the same thing as Instigation both are disgusting
that gives you 3600 just there alone now add in all the witnesses in NYC and at the pentagon
9/11 was the event that PNAC was hoping for
and fake the film guys
what do you guys have to say about that recent video release?
let me guess loose change?
no
bun-bun well plus there is the order for those 14 planes that were on stand-by, and thier flight crews… and thier C/Os, and THIER C/Os, and the folks ar NORAD
how the hell is this channel still talkin about 9-11 conspiricies
At worst they knew about it and let it happen
guys they didnt even solve the jfk murder..your inciteful input isnt gonna do shit
but they didn’t fund it
ok Yell Leader
mythrandr because people are still unknowlegable enough t belive in them
we are talking about the recent video release of those highjackers Atta etc
Were trying not to but we have no control over stupid people coming on here
What do you guys think of that recent video that just showed up ?
uh you’re not thinking that the video was recent?
Was it translated?
Politick haven’t seen it
it was an older video just released
I just started comin here, didnt know so many jackasses cause this kind of shit lol
kind of like finding a lost episode of seinfeld or something
All I’ve seen was some guys laughing
bun-bun: it’s recent in it’s release to the public
bun-bun: yuck, seinfeld
yeah I saw a clip of them laughing, bu it wasn’t translated so … useless
those the prose “recent release”
Kramer was the only one that was funny on Seinfeld
it’s incredible the logic here
those the prose? what the ehll does that mean?
the train of thought
Kramer was incredibly funny!
the DOUBLE THINK
I have not seen the osama ramma
“double think” ?
your trying to change the topic
wahahahaha
Well, I was disgusted by the film crew across the Hudson River
wow do you have meds you should be taking but you stoped?
^5’s
you mean the Osama film of the landing ont he moon?
That was sickening
What is your comments regarding that video of Atta
pilgrim`: no, there was a film crew rejoicing at the incident
there was no video of atta thats a white wash of unpopular mechanics
sickening
Atta? so this was not a full show…just the pilot?
so nothing other than stupid jokes…
ohh i wanna change my line to pilgrim`s
Do you guys believe it’s real footage ?
it was photoshopped clearly
we don’t believe your still here
Pol the world responds at the level the presetner would best receive Pol the world responds at the level the presetner would best receive
Politick dunno anything about it, I’ve been working a lot lately
lupine did you do the ‘fake bounce’ too?
well the major news agencies pushed it and portrayed it as being REAL
no.. but because the lights were so bright, it was so frigging hot.. so they had these hurricane fans setup to cool you off.. and that blew the flag around
haha
and as par usual they will recant it in the back of the newpaper and in a one second blip after reporting sports or something or for Fox… not at all What do you guys have to say to that?
thats one small step for Kubrik, one jiant leap for Spielberg
Politick one has to be careful about thier media
they did upset the set so that it actually has stars in the background
Is it not propaganda ?
all i have to say is that you need to take your lithium and calm down
a fake video to support certain political possition ?
Politick is lithium/shay? that would explain _alot_
1 wrong window
this weekend I watched 60 mintues. I was shocked at what CRAP these jerks present and call “news” it had been years
who here loves ann coulter
“poor poor girl” -nothign onw hat she did to stock values… and how STOCKHOLDERS, not press nit wits decide who runs the company they invest in
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=1 — this is a good read btw
she’s a lil skinny for my tastes.. but she’s a good shot
coulter needs a man and a steak dinner….badly
the only way i’d hit it is if she was tied up and gaged
for a while, I watched Andy Rooney’s end-gig on 60 minutes.. hoping he’ld have a stroke or something.. then I realized, it wasn’t live anyways.
Coulter is a retard period IMHO
have you read her books?
yes
yes and the last hour has shown us how well thought out YOUR opinions are politik
wtf you guys actually PAID for her books?!
She’s a total idiot
coulter is not only hot shes a genius
really
i need to impregnante her
yea.. Coulter is a retard as she thinks it was terrorists who caused 9/11 not lil green aliens
so i can have hot smart children
Coulter isn’t attractive at all :/
yes lupine GREEN THATS IT
she looks like a blonde female John Kerry
i knew it was the martians.. and one of the controllers was WEARING GREEN
uhh who says lil green aliens ?
yes it is a good read … i posted that to every blog and post that even mentioned conspiracies
NEW YORK Oct 6, 2006 (AP) T-Mobile USA is set to launch by year’s end a new breed of mobile phones that can pass live phone calls between cellular and Wi-Fi networks, a top executive told The Associated Press on Friday.
you just pull that outta your ass in an attempt to be funny?
i dunno.. more like a blonde cher with that long angular face
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=2537818&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
I dunno.. does little green men come out of your ass?
the fact that you aren’t sure that we are pulling that out of our asses speaks MORE volumes
i had something green come out last night but it wasn’t in the shape of little men
green apple splatters?
chinese
again do any of you have anything to say regarding that recent PUBLICALLY release video of Atta and friends with Laden ?
No
one comment is all I’ve received and it was stating it’s photoshop material
i haven’t watched it and i don’t really care about it
the rest of you NOTHING not one comment
right
there’s one for you
that your snickering
no because it doesnt MATTER what facts we point you at you just either continue down your ‘path’ or bring out something else or something tangental to everything theres another one for you
and pathetic attempt at humor
snicker snicker — no that is a snicker
you dont photoshop videos by the way you use something else called after effects
lol, i said it was photoshopped i laughed
assuming you want to stay on the adobe path
FAKE!!!! FIRST POSTED!!!!! PHOTOSHOPPED!!!!!
bun-bun: I work with NLE gear and sell it it’s what I do for a living DCC all that stuff
thats nice then why did you make the mistake of talking about photoshop?
read the buffer
it was a fucking joke shut up
yea.. now it sounds even more ignorant to call it photoshopped
besides.. its photochopped 
I was quoting that other fellow
I WAS FUCKING KIDDING, DROP IT
again your moving the converstation in another direction
which one? the one over your left or right shoulder?
what do you guys think of that FAKED video
nothing
faked video? you mean the video doesn’t exist?
and who would have faked and released it… and why would the news agencies push it as legit ?
.its the Gimp
faked video? you mean the video doesn’t exist?
I mean
what is a matter? were you hoping for dead US soldiers in the video, so you could masturbate ?
i think you are pretty disturbed that you are so far gone in this conspiracy stuff
what is the comment designed to do regarding the direction we are heading in conversation
i could say something that would disturb you rigth down to your inner core
I’m not even talking about conspiracy stuff
now now…every one KNOWS journalistic integrity woudl NEVERY EVER allow a faked piece of information or media into the information stream. Un HEARD of
I’m talking about a very specific news story/event/video and nothing more
I really think that if you think everything you are saying is true that you should consider seeing a mental health professional
Lupine you switched to BeOS?
not one of you have the balls to call it as it is that the video is faked and used for political gain
no.. that _if_ i have to work in a neanderthal text programming language.. Visual Studio 2K3/net aint so bad.
and that the new agencies will recant it as being real but do so a week plus later in the back of the paper and after sports or at 3AM again
lets talk about something that actually matters. three days before the “test” from north korea the UN said “DON’T DO IT!!” they did it. now everyone is going BACK to the UN so they can do something about it. am i the only person who realizes how irrelevent the UN is now and how clawless their sanctions and resolutions are?
what do you critical thinking think?
FOR I,1,20,1,end
wow, you mean like how ABC/CBS/NBC have done before? well holy cow, call me shocked
thinkers
so what do you guys thik about NK testing a nuke?
were letting you do our thinking for us politick
that’s pretty much all the UN is good for
yonatan^ I think that the low yield of the device works against them and shows them as incompotent
nah the UN has been making things worse for decades now
6502
(sp?)
ahh so from that I take it your stating that they have released faked video as real before and have recanted it quietly ?
cyber, wether UN action has teeth or not depends mostly on Russia and China
too low actually
i would like to see the US withdraw from the UN
How do you feel about that then? obviously it helps to support the Bush admin right
and move the UN to somalia they made the bed so they should sleep in it
cyber then roll over and go to sleep?
of course.. they did it to Audi and um, GM [ might have been ford.. the ‘exploding’ pickup episode ]
yet within the same breath you’d state the press has a left wing slant hahah
both russia and china agreed that korea should not test … where’s the response? putin is “dissapointed but we must show restraint” … which is EXACTLY what he said about the entire program.
UN is useless?
and there is a conspiracy it’s just that it’s regarding the leftist agenda of the press
eh? reminding people that OBL is still out there, harms Bush
hahah
politick no no the press has no spant. It has no SENSE!
nope, you are not the only one…but unfortunately, there are large numbers of people in the US and around the world who choose not to “see the light”…therefore, we are forced to go with the motions as to not stir up any civil unrest at home (even though that might be an impossible goal as well)
interesting
the UN is just an organization of all the different countries. When the UN fails to act, our blame should be, rather, on those nations who are obstructing, rather than the organization itself, which is not a bad thing, imo
Again please ppl comment directly regarding that FAKE video what do you ppl think ? opionions regardintg motive where it originated etc
I would be more interested in you proven it was faked.
think I had one too many ‘rather’s in there…
obstruction and action are easy to identify … complacency is much more difficult to tag to someone
what was the yeild on the nuke they exploded?
ignored
adn the fact the new agencies will recant it only about a week from now in the back of the papers well ?
airbuster i would agree that in theory its a good thing.. just as having no one in the world poor is a good thing.. but the abuses and such that come from almost every action the UN is taking or has taken means that we need a better way
congratulation to n. korea for successfully denotating a nuclear bomb ! now america won’t dare to touch it
all i see from russia and china is a delay action to see what happenes next rather then fulfilling their responsibilities as major world powers
you could not be more WRONG
bun, well the US does have power to veto every UN action
The nuclear test is a great leap forward for a prosperous socialist nation!
just as Russia, China, France and the UK do
Politick, how would america touch n. korea now?
for the last 5 years and more i’m sure they have done nothing but stand there with their hands back saying “hey, i’m not going to get involed”
one atomic bomb dropped in american bases in japan, s. korea would wipe out 20,000 american soldiers
the UN should get one nation to submit a resolution “We resolve to NOT nuke NOrth Korea”.. and have the US veto that.. so we can Nuke them 
hehe
your assuming they could managed to get a nuke delivered manage
you don’t even have to drop it … placed in the back of a truck detonated at the skorea border would be enough
Politick, its only 100 km from n. korea to s. korea and japan
slow boat from china aint just a phrase
they can just toss it by hand man
personally even though I’m a leftist/socialist and believe a certain perspective regarding the 9/11 lunars I am a realist and we CANNOT allow NA to have nukes period
whats na
NC
whats nc
wahahaha
north Korean
north carolina?
Korea
so nk?
NK I mean NK
but they already have it, thats a fact already
what was the yeild on the nuke they exploded?
so whats hte point of saying “we cannot allow it”, when they ALREADY have it
everything indicates it was so small.. it is very unlikely
yonatan^: no one can agree on it .. some are saying 1kt, some are saying .5kt
lol “North Carolina musn’t have nukes!”
under a certain level, it requires alot of sophistication to achieve the technology of little boy was pretty damn simple
that’s not much higher then a modern bunker buster weapon
cyber, weren’t they aiming for 400kt?
not sure
I believe they were
NC
no, its not even close
ugg pathetic I’m trying to eat breakfast and type
that Popular Mechanics artile IS rather good. I just read it
pilgrim` it is very well sourced also
scientists have already said that testing a nuke does not take a huge feat of technical ability … the tough part is miniturizing for weapon deployment
if the explosion really was 1kt, then I’d consider that a dud
at least in the magazine it is
who is the biggest loser in all of th is? us, n. korea, japan, s. korea, china, russia, etc?
KoBushi they usualy are; them and Popular Sience have good reps
good point
Science
MOAB has ~9000kg of H6 explosive, which is ~1.6 times that of TNT.. that works out to ~0.0072 kilotons
pilgrim` yeah I have a 5year subscription t both
i wouldn’t, any nuclear explosion indicates they did the right thing … the size depends on the amount of materials used
I used to have subs, but economic determinism…and the web made them lapse
it say it 2x the explosive force of TNT
a dud would have been a nuke that didn’t fiss
yep, a basic canon-design like little boy is easy to construct/build/fire once you have the uranium/plutonium
to 18000kg bomb
btw, 400kt has the same explosive power as the bomb we dropped on Hiroshima
PU not U
18 metric tons
this is something i dun understand
U235 will nto work well int eh cannon arrangment
um, no.. 20kt and 25kt
i thought the us can detect a nuclear detonation anywhere
hard part is miniaturizing it and placing it on a rocket
through radioactive emission analysis
what it tells me is that they have a limited amount of radioactive material and they only used a very small portion of it for this test
they can easily
how come it still cannot verify it?
there will be more tests on the horizon
and we cannot wait for them to reach this milestone
it will work actually.. just not to full effeciency
can we!
so did th ey verify the detonation?
and they will be bigger
they did
yonatan^, so how come cnn is still saying its not verified?
Lupine, I have bad info, then
one sec
yonatan^: the only way that’s possible is a radiation detection and that hasn’t happened
all we have is vibration data that has to be interpreted … it takes a day or so to do that
so no they have NOT confirmed it
Lupine I am not a nuke Engineer, I just play one on IRC
cyberfrg, what about radiation data if it’s only vibration data, how do u distinguish between a nuclear bomb and a regular bomb
oh geez I left it on
they can esaily stuff a lot of tnt’s together and fake a nuclear detonation
there is no way to tell
underground tests produce very low levels of released radiation and it wouldn’t be enough for russia to detect
there must be some distinguishing features
Swig I know, I have been using it as a bounce server 
if we had access to real time sats we would know
Bush called Pyongyang’s nuclear test “unacceptable” and ‘provocative,” and warned Kim Jong-Il’s regime that the U.S. would honor its commitments to protect its Asian allies
I ran out of laundry soap
Politick, so it’s possible it’s a fake and we can’t tell?
very
hmm interesting
sure though very unlikely
I have enough for one more load, but have 2-3 more to do
even with sat data if they buried thousands of tons of tnt it would produce similar craters
what coudl we do except…what Ike threatened back in 1953
seems Bush confirmed it
also
smart
Hiroshima “Little Boy” Uranium Nagasaki “Fat man” Plutonium
not from radiation
the military and other govs probably has numerous other scientific measuring devices that can tell exactly what happened
what does Bush mean when he says it’s “unacceptable”. It already happened. It’s not like N. Korea asked Bush, “we are gonna test it, is it acceptable?”. they ALREADY tested it! so what do y ou mean “unacceptable”?
they can dedect it from seismic activity
i don’t undersatand the usage of that word
Lupine I knew a guy who rode Enola Gay
he means we can’t take it lightly
does Bush mean that he cannot accept this fact, and is insisting that this did not happen?
that pos was held together with tape and bailing wire
is Bush denying that this happened by saying unacceptable?
he is confirming that they did test a nuke
I got to play with a new type of capacitor.. doped nano-carbon… it was the size of a external burner drive.. but 100Farad
and that it is “unacceptable”
cyberfrg, so why not just say that
because he doesn’t write his speeches?
um, “unacceptable” is often used for recent but past events.
yonatan^, what exactly is unacceptable, the fact that n. korea has the bomb? so we don’t accept that fact, and therefore insist that he does not have the bomb?
please expant
we are denying that fact?
unacceptable doesn’t mean it didn’t happen
yonatan^, what exactly does it mean then!?
unacceptable means the US will not tolerate it
strange logic
no, it’s just vocabulary choices and can be interpreted differently
it usually a political threat
cyberfrg, why not just say, “This is wrong, we are not happy”
unacceptable means we won
won?
won’t tolerate it
huh?
because to any rational person, they would know that “Unacceptable” means what it means
So what do you guys think is the right course of action regarding NK ?
IE, a threat of invasion
yonatan^, won’t tolerate the fact that he has a bomb?
yes
that isn’t clear enough … we not only are not happy but we will not stand by and act like it never happened … we will take action against it and prevent it in the future in a nutshell
cyberfrg, what action?
pretty much what Bush is doing is threating invasion
your debating the choice of language bush used and other stupid things all of you
the action = saying it’s unacceptable?
yes
it’s pathetic
UN sanctions
convert old Minute Men and Titan II’s to deep bunker busters.. ~1kton spike of DU and tungsten carbine.. impact at ~24,000mph
but N. Korea h as been under sanctions already, what do they have to fear about sanctions? nothing
can someone DCC me some Tide laundry soap?
we’re not debating it.. saobi is just making himself look like a fool
i’m really confused as to what you’re trying to figure out. don’t take his speech so literally
that wont get out your skid marks
you mean the UN isn’t doing the trick?
cyberfrg, i just don’t understand the use of this word unacceptable, it makes no logic sense
it does saobi are you a native english speaker?
i am
# not adequate to give satisfaction; “the coach told his players that defeat was unacceptable”
just means I have to go to the store and buy some
Bush said it’s “unacceptable”
# not acceptable; not welcome; “a word unacceptable in polite society”; “an unacceptable violation of personal freedom” used of persons or their behavior; “impossible behavior”; “insufferable insolence” # not conforming to standard usage; “the following use of `access’ was judged unacceptable by a panel of linguists; `You can access your cash at any of 300 automatic tellers’”
means he refuses to accept right?
Lupine…that could work…
but what is he refusing to accept? obvioulys the fact tht n. korea detonated the bomb
but best you advise China and Russia first
it’s like saying “murder is unacceptable”
so he’s refusing to accept that fact
look up unacceptable
which means he’s saying they did not detonate the bomb
no it doesn’t
no
so he accepts that they have the bomb?
24,000 mph would require it be release in a low earth orbit from Aurora or something
is he accepting that fact?
yes
lol
you are having issues with the denotative meaning of the word
so he is accepting that fact so then why does he say “unacceptable” when he accepts that fact? what exactly is he refusing to accept?
unacceptable means that there will be consequences
whats the object of that adjective?
i’m going to agree with Lupine| at this point
he is sayign that it will not be tolerated
i smell a troll
so it’s untolerable?
yes
so why not say untoerable?
wow
why not say unacceptable ?
ignore him
like i said, it causes confusion
no, YOU are the one who is confused
if you say unacceptable, then you must explain exact what are you not accepting, right?
String too long Lupine|!
one can nitpit on some of Bush’s accent.. i.e. nucular.. but jeeze.. this aint one of them
unacceptable is stronger then intolerateable
if someone gives me a gift, and i say, this is unacceptable. that means i cannot accept that gift so i’m saying, ‘this gift is unacceptable”
sigh
./ignore saobi
the reason why I said 24,000 is that I think that is the escape velocity of the earth..
don’t sigh me
anywho a 1kt bomb?
don’t belike that i’m trying to understand it
Isn’t the Xband platform in the area ?
my friend you are acting autistic
Viva Kim Jong Il! What for I don’t know, but Viva!
next up, you are going to nitpick that it wasn’t a nuclear bomb, but an atomic bomb instead..
we should be able to take out a launch from them towards Japan etc
those 2 things are very different r u joking
I say we hit them with a gravity well weapon … it’s the only system non nuclear that could penetrate deep enough to take out those underground facilities
look up nuclear and atomic bombs atomic bomb is a type of nuclear bomb, but not vice versa you must learn more1
saobi your an idiot dude
Politick, you are saying they are not different?
If we had kept the Minute Man and Titan II missiles.. we could install a tungsten carbide tip to a DU spike.. launch it towards the moon with a slingshot return tragejectory.. and have it impact at an incredible terminal velocity
whatever man
exactly they have Aurora to do just so though remember
they apperently have icbms that can hit LA
yonatan^: unless it was like a scud all over the place I have faith in Xband platform and our interceptors they would not have the volume of launch to circumvent it unless it’s vector was all over the place like a scud
icbms travel too fast I think to intercept
we’d take it out Airbornelaser needs to be moved into the area is there any working Airbourne lasers yet? those 747s need to be moved into the theatre if any are working
they are still expiremental and easily defeated if the NK’s are worth their stuff
easily defeated? how?
major design flaw in laser interception
hardly friend really news to me in the tracking laser?
yeah they have problems with teh fluxx capacitor hahaha
TRW built that aspect no?
if the missile is reflective it will not absorb
hahahah
just bonce right off bounce*
ahh hahah
yonatan^: the problems with icbms is you have to intercept on their launch before they begin to decend
no really, if you are speaking about laser interception
you think they just need to place a mirror finish on the site of the missle to defeat ABM ?
