10.31.07
hahah wasnt that baseball players cockpit flight software running a windoes Vista Beta before he crashed into
The unions forced the companies on the safety thing.
btw here are the specs
same thing…for airline industry….why didn’t the legacy airlines keep their superior service….you should expect even after 9/11…that people would pay enough money to keep paying for those services, even with competition with the Low Cost Carriers.
Seagate / 320GB / 7200 / 16MB / SATA-300 / OEM / Hard Drive
Since it came down to “Make things safer, or not have a company anymore”
some people try to make it sound like the first factories were evil on purpose, judging by today’s standards … go ahead if you insist, but it’s simply not true
That’s a good one.
Any comments astro ?
not even close
bastard socialists!
Ok cool
and you know what…Legacy Airliners are trying to be like the Low Cost Carriers….
as usual you have history completely backwards
only Contiential is somewhat upholding old “Legacy” standards.
he does?
The end of robber barons and incredibly unsafe labor conditions can be directly attributed to the rise of organized labor, and its pressures on government.
go ahead and keep putting out urban legends
Make sure you have the cables.. many OEM drives come without them
nice, except that there were never any robber barons
oh really
Heh.
that’s mythology created by the muckrakers to sell their social agenda
Rockefeller might disagree with you.
yes, astrodog….workers forced private industires to shape up….private owners didn’t do it by themselves.
yeah, the railroad and steel guys never existed
i dunno about you. but i sure has hell don’t want to live in a Corporate controlled society. I almost prefer our incompetent government to THAT dystopian image.
how do you define “robber?”
FreeTrade your getting a new hd
“Robber Baron” is a specific term.
do you know who gave the railroads free property at government expense?
It doesn’t refer to the same kind of robber, that say “Bank Robber” refers to.
and it’s meaningless
I sure would not want to be living in the end of the 19th century in a urban envionrment….
businesses which use the lack of any oversight to sell shoddy and often dangerous stuff to people with no quality control and/or no correlation between advertised and actual function, etc.
doesn’t sound even remotely like a robber to me
I came across the term ‘economic royalist’ today well, fraud.
Gimme a sec.
and monopoly
a robber holds you at sword/pistol point and takes what you happen to have on you at the time
OcDoc, The Jungle told us how meatprocessors put rodients into the food….thus the first “food” regulatiosn were born….
FreeTrade where you buying this one from what webpage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baron_(industrialist)
The Jungle, a book by oh…I forget his name.
Upton Sinclair.
yes, and it was mostly made up … why would anyone “put” rodents into their meat on purpose? Sinclair Lewis
private industry at that point…could have corrected it themselves…but did they?
hahah “evil on purpose” hahahahhahah
yeah … Upton Sinclair
TrekkerCC you didn’t have their meat idiot TrekkerCC no one forced thier meat
“mwaaahahahaha! let’s put a rat into this beef … har har”
it’s called not caring
Correct. Your point stands about the same way someone arguing that “Republican” really means “Republished Lichen”.
OcDoc it a lie
gop_, so it is ok….if you can get away with it?
rat is a great spice
lol astro
to this day the government regulates how many rat hairs and turds you can have in your food
TrekkerCC your not forced to eat it TrekkerCC I don’t eat meat
to the extent it’s able to enforce that, it’s supposed to be as close to zero as possible.
it’s impossible to keep it OUT of the food … back then there was little incentive to reduce the amount, and little technology if you wanted to
gop_, nope…but a person expects….and the government enforces a certain level of cleaniness at a factory.
TrekkerCC you have a choose
Or, that Government really mean a ruler who governs with the flavor of menthol.
and certain minmum level of safety?
workers forced private industries to change, and got beaten and killed in the battle. got called communist and anti-American for their trouble. and now unions are subjugated by organized crime and the feds are ok with that. god forbid that unions remain honest and for the people.
it’s possible to minimize unsafe conditions and ingredients.
TrekkerCC I don’t execpt goverment to do nothing
like teach us spelling.
so the best companies figured out how to and marketed their success … and the muckrakers made a big deal out of it and THEN the government came along and set standards and collected graft on the enforcement end
Timur wtf
Graft?
correct … NOW we do … back then they didn’t
You mean, fines?
gop_, how THE HELL would I know…what goes on at a facotry? I have to trust the private owners/businesses to make sure they are providing some minimum level of safety…..and with government oversight….I can feel safe that they do.
no … bribes NOT to enforce
TrekkerCC you do research TrekkerCC do you just buy a car, becuase it looks cute
A business, when it offers a product, also implies that there is a certain fitness for a purpose.
gop_, in the 19th century, again HOW THE HELL is a person suppose to research it? there was no internet
When I buy a burger, I expect it to be fit for human consumption.
TrekkerCC do you just do that, or do you use your brain and think why should I buy x and why not
of course you have ways of being reasonably sure how clean … the only difference is who does the inspections
no real “independent” newspaper…to check out the factories.
TrekkerCC thier many ways
ok, bbl.
implies how?
TrekkerCC say who
gop_, have you read some of the newspapers back then?
that sounds like an assumption on your part without any logical support
Its got legal support. It is fair to assume, that if a company sells, lets say, “Gasoline”, they won’t fill your gas tank with water, instead.
if I go to a burger store and eat a burger, I get what they give me … if I ask if it’s pure beef and they say “Yes” but it’s not, it’s fraud logical and legal are frequently NOT the same thing
Fitness for purpose means that if there’s something exceptional, that’s differnt from what someone can reasonably expect, the company has a duty to inform the person.
logic != legal
that same kind of logic leads to the conclusion by many people that the light comes on because you flipped the switch
no. its plausible deniablilty because they were certain that it was pure, but of course it also contained kangaroo and rat and whale..and only the regional manager was aware of this and covered it up.
many legisalstors astrodog don’t use logi
They are still talking about them dickheads stuck in the mountains
c akhenaton it fruad
I think 0.1% of kangaroo is allowed
OcDoc, and how do I know….that a person will not try to sell me gasoline “water” with something that smells like gasoline.
it’s still fraud
why the fuck would you go there for fun
But… the Kangaroo is what makes it taste so good…
you don’t … and you still don’t know if government sets a standard
Jumpin good !
so on the offhand chance it is discovered, that regional middle man loses his job, you get 100 free hamburgers, and the company thaws out the premium burgers for 3 months before things revert back to business as usual.
Government DOES set a standard.
you rely on the reputation of the business, and if you want to pay extra for extra security, you buy only from places that certify it through independent inspections
When you sell a product, it must be atleast somewhat fit for the purpose that you claim its fit for.
you still don’t know the certification is legit though
you really can never know for sure, govt inspeactions just prove they are capable of making the proper prodcut
well, that’s a different argument … I’m talking about alternatives to what we have now, and how good what we have now is
OcDoc, true, but the government can later sue those companies that are fraudulent…
government inspections don’t protect you from corrupt inspectors
but generally if they are capable of doing it for the inspector, they wil go ahead and do it at least most of the time for customers
Its my belief, that what we have now… corporations, with government oversight, is better than the alternatives.
plus the government money has enough money to stay in a long term suit, which a ordinary citizen may not be able to.
they can anyway
that’s true, of course any human can be corrupt
that’s my whole point … if the company assures you that you’re getting pure, clean beef and they lied, the government can still prosecute them for fraud
Corporations increase investment.
TrekkerCC that my ppint if the company say it beef it beef
and if you get sick from eating the meat they gave you, the government can still prosecute them for harming you
Regulation prevents the unreasonable externilzation of costs.
TrekkerCC that why you have better bussiness bureur
why should I want increased investment?
OcDoc even better you have better bussiness bercure berure that is private
does it? prove it
gop_…government makes sure through regulation…that it does not engage in frauduelent practices against competitors or against the general citizenry.
that inspect bussiness for fual fruad
Increased investment, means increased economic growth.
I’m sorry…I trust the government for oversight…than any other private organizations…
I”m aware that that’s the excuse fans of government use, but I don’t think you’ve proven that it works that way
TrekkerCC how can the better bussiness beurure not also do that and do it better
tanstaafl! trust the government? You for free crack too ?
it does? prove it … Enron is a counter-example to your claim
I don’t say I trust it….very mcuh….but I hell trust the government more than a private business…
why should I want increased economic growth?
Government oversight is what finally caught Enron.
If I give the gu’bmint $100 what will their budget be? $1000? 1 million? bingo
of course not … the disappearance of the retirement fund was what blew the whistle … the government didn’t have a clue
for once thing….government are transparent by their nature….private businesses by definition do not have to share any of its information with the public (other than required by law)
TrekkerCC when goverment gives you free “chesse” how doyou know it free “chesee”
Uh?
you can creat a new body for oversight if you want, but then if they have legal authority they will become “government”
you can trust the government to work int he best interet of the government, not the citizen, but the pencil pusher in power today
No, that’s not what caused it.
they declared bankruptcy long before the government came along and “caught” them
Enron’s retirement fund didn’t die off until well after the SEC was forcing them to refile.
Free cheese is worth every penny you pay for it.
TrekkerCC when goverment gives you free “chesse” how doyou know it free “chesee”…….
lol
Astro correct
hah. the BBB is just a complaints log.
they pulled some fast accounting shuffles quickly
so…for most purposes…I can go to the government…and file a FOIA request and get the information I need….I cannot do that with a private organization…they would tell me to go to hell.
are you really that clueless? you think the government “caught” Enron?
…….///////////TrekkerCC when goverment gives you free “chesse” how doyou know it free “chesee”…….
the government caught their accountants. sort of
I know the government caught Enron, in the end. It was the SEC and fed investigations that got Enron’s credit knocked to “Junk Bond”
that’s just silly … you can file a lawsuit against a corporation and get whatever you want from them during discovery
And that’s what made everything collapse, in the end.
gop_….I can request to the government…to see what is in the “free cheese”…if it is really free cheese?
HonK if you love Cheeses
TrekkerCC how do you know what you request is true
red dye number 2 mon and di glyserides, emulsifiers ogh yeah and 2% moo huice
Ew.
OcDoc, only if you have a valid claim against them….if you weren’t harmed directly by any of their actions….they would rip up your request for information
Moo Huice.
I think we had Gubmint Cheese a few time when I was a kid
honked TrekkerCC how do you know what you request is true………
Gubmint cheese is pretty good…
that assumes that the government actually knows, or that what they have is accurate and not forged by bribed officials
astro it is FDA aproved!
Better than craft, anyway.
the BBB allows for a business to resolve an issue with the client and if they do, then they remove the complaint. and if they don’t the complaint remains on record. thats about all the BBB does in reality.
*kraft
better business bureau
…….TrekkerCC how do you know what you request is true………
I know my parents went and got cheep bulk cheese from somehwere
do you know how many times judges dismiss claims before discovery?
a few times when it was rough
close to zero
i had govt cheese once when i was a kid, was very close to inedible
err cheap
Then it wasn’t government cheese.
OcDoc, I could produce the documents and show the Government and sue them for fraud….of courre…at a private company…liekly by the time I could ge t the documents…the company would have a litlte “shredder” party….
akhenaton the bbb does more better job
Government cheese is *gasp*, actually cheese.
gubmint cheese is the best you can get. its subsidized farmer cheese. organic to a fault
I can’t remember if they paid or it was free
I would pay for government cheese.
TrekkerCC same with goverment
the gov cheese program was a direct result of the gov dairy farmer support program. that is, to maintain dairy proces, the feds buy milk and make cheese or deydrate…things that last longer then warehouse it BUT
TrekkerCC your saying goverment don’t have machines to shred
shredding evidence after you find out there is a legal action is an offense for which you can be imprisoned
my grandfather used to get gov’t cheese when he was in vermont.. it was Cabot 
astrodog how is goverment cheese better
the free chese program was attacked int ehearly days of welfare by the grocery lobby
but keep trying to say that government is better
Fuckin grocers.
I’m glad Wal-Mart’s crushing them, then.
Lupine| how did it taste
Take my cheese, will you!
well, I better hit the showers … laterz guyz
cabot cheese? one of the best main-stream brands out there
astro the whole idea was poor folks (with no loot anyway) are gettin free so they ain’t buying
astrodog walmart has better cheese
OcDoc, I trust government officials better…than private business owners…and I distrust what the Government is trying to say most of the time.
FOOD STAMPS! they can buy we goet money and pnecil pushers get more work
private business is accountable to no one but themselves and their bottom line, and in certain cases the government. so what makes them more trustworthy? nothing.
akhenaton wrong to it consumer
akhenaton this is a bad thing? I do not understand
everyone is accountable to the government, through law
food stamps…are intended to help the poor with food expernses…I’m assuming you want every American to be able to eat?
even the govt itself
adding a layer of beuracracy somehow makes you safer?
through law. laws don’t apply to everything. only instances where laws might be broken. nope. didn’t say none of that.
depends. If they have money for crack or cellphones, then no.. I do not wish to be paying for them.
that’s right but everyone is accountable to obey all the laws which apply
you now trust a clueles suit instead of a clued producer? this makes me feel better? how?
i just ask you what makes you think private business is about trust?
US-Male, actually….the government is not always accountable to the people….it cannot be generally sued…unless it provided through law or the agency in question waives sovereign immunity.
in fact even the garbageman has to follow nuclear regulatory laws. That is, if he wants to run a nuke plant.
TrekkerCC why is goverment the only soultion
I didn’t mention “the people”
and by adding the layer of gov to the proces all you EVER do is add a layer subject to corruption bribery and outright fraud far greater then usign the marketplace as the govonor of the process
pilgrim`: you want Swiss field radio with 50watt hand-crank generator? only $129.97
TrekkerCC it is much easyier to pay off govermenet offical
although the people can vote out anyone or his boss’s boss at some level, except the Judiciary
well…the fact is in…texas, they have credit card like food stamp program…which denies any non-buyable good from being purchased.
Lupine I have a crank radio. 2 actually and 1 is a WWII emergency tranciever on thr 40 meter band
Lupine| your argument against mac not being comptaible is wrong
trade alliance and willful transparency is the solution. an agreement not to screw me from behind. right now we have two alternatives. and neither is the lesser of two evils. its just..what flavor of evil do you want to try today. private sector or government
pilgrim` can it get sw broadcast
eh? concerning what? they’re compatabile in many areas, not so in som eothers
I can’t get rid of the incompetent guy at the DMV, but I the people can vote out his boss’s boss’s boss…… 10 levels up or whatever
Lupine| you can run osx on many or any x86 newer system youc an
gop limited badnwidth yes, but for receive I have a BC348; tube type rdio from a B29 bomber
from p4 to amd
of course
err not “me” but the people collectively
OSX for x86 at least
if they want to
yes
Dead Moo
it campitable Lupine| so you have no argument Lupine| futhermore drawin is open source
what are you jawing on about?
thus allowing it for easy driver dev
pilgrim` okay, how about a WWII Altitude Correction Computer?
I recall last year you saying, how youstold y our company no more macs but when infact macs are so compatable
I have a 20gb drive with 10.4.6 installed. I can plug into any PC and see if it is compatable
question for the business is best for everything crowd? do you think the private industry would provide the comperable level of defense..if it were totally privatized…totally privatized Army, Air Force, Navy, etc.
that was when the G5 came out. We decided not to waste our efforts on porting from MacOS to OS-X
LUPINE HOW ABOUT A (GRANTED RUSTY AND OUT OF TUNE) NORTON BOMBSITE BUNKIE
when people feel the need to upgrade their computer in order to run the new Windows Vista disaster, millions will switch to a mac.
Lupine| so your company made a error when not getting any pc osx developer boxes
I was playing with Vista last night RC 2 man
and instead, focused on real time OS’s
I do like MacBook…it’s very good for schoool work.
Lupine| I recall you ranting how you won’t get x86 boxes Lupine| osx server is real time
eh? profitability as excellent the year before I sold out in part due to axing MacOS support
pilgrim` how is that junk
lol.. no.. OS-X server is not a real time OS
So far, 69 members of the military, prison guards, law enforcement employees and other public employees have been convicted of accepting bribes to help smuggle cocaine.
yes it is it is 64 bit
pilgrim` You know, there was a time.. you would ahve been shot for having one of those 
I was getting so mad with the networking..
This is why the drug war is not only wrong, its idiotic.
it has runs on the mach kernel Lupine|
being a real time OS has nothing to do with the bit-width
the mach kernel is realtime
Lupine I know
here’s an interesting example of industry oversight(non-government): “Dell said Friday that it has received a letter from the Nasdaq saying the company was not in compliance with listing requirements because it was late to file its fiscal third-quarter report.”
Heh.
All it does is encourage corruption and high profits for people who dont deserve them. Tax free even.
please.. i wont waste anymore time on this with you.. it is NOT a real time operating system.
NASDAQ warned Dell, and Novell about delisting.
Dell’s excuse is, ironically, a govt.-oversight agency: “The world’s No. 2 PC maker previously said it would delay filing the report due to an investigation by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission into the company’s accounting and financial reporting for possible misstatements.”
But, the feds are what make lying to Nasdaq illegal.
they blame SEC
Lupine| it has memory protection Lupine| and nt 4.0 was a real time os
Uh.
US I bet they will be ok, Nasdaq usually lets them slide after warning them and threatening them
NT 4.0 was NOT an RTOS.
I don’t know that they lied to Nasdaq
astrodog let it go.. it aint worth it
they just didn’t comply by filing the report on time
Oh they lied ? What did they say ?
actually, to avoid lying
so what don’t make osx a real time os astrodog
I don’t want to go to Microsoft Vista…its activation system seems even more restrictive than XP was.
if freebsd is a real time os, so is osx
drug war is simply drug market regulation. it guarantees a certain quality of drug, shipping policies and pricing.
OSX is also not an RTOS.
no there’s no allegation of lying
FreeBSD isn’t, either.
red herring
what the hell is a real time os?
astrodog is windows xp a real time os
An RTOS is an operating system that can garuntee the execution of a process, at a given moment in time. Nope.
astrodog but qnx is based on bsd and freebsd is bsd and it a real time os
Or, that can garuntee execution based on an event.
osx can be tuned to work like qnx
in this case, Nasdaq’s “teeth” is just to de-list them no force of law and if they were de-listed it would screw them up badly
What makes something an RTOS, or not, is how it schedules processes.
FreeBSD is NOT a realtime OS.
They’d probably just become a pinksheet.
I seen embedded kiosk of osx astrodog and xp
they’d get relisted somewhere
Nasdaq often threatens and doesnt actually do it. They dont want to lose them to the NYSE or other competitors, they probably want dell to get its act together and do whats required to meet their rules. IM surprised Michael Dell would allow this kind of fuckup.
I already said that.
probably back to nasdaq wth is a realtime OS anyway
that’s true….but how likely is it for Nasdaq to really delist them
wel nasdaq has threatened to do it already
Its an operating system that can garuntee that a given process, runs at a given time, or that it runs immediately in response to an event.
oh
yes…but threatening and actuallly doing it…are two different things
it is a deterministic OS.. where you can hard set it do so certain things at an exact point in time.
When are people going to learn about the drug wars negatives. This was 1oos of agents probably and millions which could of goine toward terrorism Maybe they need a conservative to explain it to them. to run on it..
Lupine| but I seen embmded version of osx
so which OS’s are realtime
in kiosk
An RTOS facilitates the creation of a real-time system, but does not guarantee the final result will be real-time; this requires correct development of the software. An RTOS does not necessarily have high throughput; rather, an RTOS provides facilities which, if used properly, guarantee deadlines can be met generally (soft real-time) or deterministically (hard real-time). An RTOS will typically use specialized scheduling algorithms in order to provide in other words, noone cares.
blame Nancy Reagan!
“In addition to the SEC, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York and the company’s audit committee have raised questions about Dell’s financial reporting”
cyr so who uses rtos only a nitche market
NY is always going after everyone but they do house the main stock exchanges
Whats realtime mean exactly
alot of industrial control and measurement systems using RTOS
rtos is no guarantee of any better performance, its just a new type of framework for programmers.
so there must be some pressure
RTOSs are used for things like machine control and autopilots and whatnot.
US oh no that sounds bad.
Lupine| but I seen a lot of control system run on visual basic not sure why
in my case, it is to ensure critical timing
rtos does not guarantee any of that.
Usually they get threatened when the share price drops or they dont file paperwork, but cooking the books could be bad news.
FreedBSD, OS X and *most* desktop/server OSs are NOT intended for reatltime applications.
visual basic or other languages are often used as a scripting host, which is then sent to the controller
I would get out of dell for awhile. Though I am not in it.
well yea.. if you are an idiot programmer
RTOS when you need it to happen exactly when it is supposed to happen, and cant have a pause in the process waiting for something to pass or queue
Yaakov why
Yaak what is a realtime application to a dumby like me ?
There *are* RTOS-ified version of Linux, and even of Windows XP.
I still have a few shares of Dell, probably not worth me selling
new linux kernel is rtos
or maybe I should sell now and forget Dell
If you buy an airplane you’d better make sure your glass cockpit is not running OS X.
it’s like $450. heh
this rescue thing on Mt hood, what people may not remember is they are all tied together. this is very steep, the last 500 feet of the ascent to the top is extremely steep.
or Windows, or FreeBSD or ordinary Linux…
yeahhh talk nerdy to me
theres no future for Dell unless they start building macs.
Yaakov hmm
hahah wasn’t that baseball player’s cockpit flight software running a windoes Vista Beta before he crashed into that skyscraper?
But it isn’t important for desktop or server applications.
Yaakov how about osx server
You have do dig in, footprints with a ice axe and where steel shoews with metal extrusions to get traction and you rope off to everyone, and sometimes anchor off to something which can hold their weight if they can fall.
RTOS is for closed-loop control systems.
A boy refuses to ride with his mother who he says was drunk. good call
on my RT/system.. I have an ensured event time of ~1nSec
12yr old boy
those climbers are pretty much all but found
No. No version of OS X is realtime, and there is no reason for it to be.
I’d bet $100 they all walk out of there
Lupine| you programed that your self
it is established by the timing clock in the particular system
although I wonder why they don’t come out, if they can hear the choppers ?
and you can set various multiples of it.. 1x 2x 4x 16 x etc
Francis’ OS-X Realtime Operating System Page http://home.swipnet.se/~w-68269/osx/osx.htm
Yaak, Hmm Ok Its not needed very often but i still dont understand what it is, can you explain it or is it to technical ?
By changing the scheduler, any OS can become an RTOS, of sorts.
US I hope they are alive inside there, the worst thing would be they find dead bodies.
An RTOS allows you to guarantee that a program will have access to the CPU and hardware when it needs it.
But it looks promising
OS-X is written in TML2 and Z80 machine code. I have written hardware drivers (BSPs) for several home built Z80/Z180 systems.
should be at least one
dude.. did you read the website you got from google?
The bad part of it is, it costs 100s of 1000s of dollars to rescue these people.
I am reading
That is NOT Mac OS.
his page is under construction so no source code or binary package is available yet…
I’m sure they will get a bill ;P
yea, no kidding
what people?
Maybe they should have to buy insurance to climb it or they should close it off during the winter season.
why do they calll it osx Lupine| you proved your point but osx is not ment for real time
The last one was OS 9 And this is OS 10.
Yaak, ahh ok.. So it gives it instant asscess to the cpu when it wants it.
And the roman numeral for 10 is X.
OS 9 kick ass I still use os 9
Vista Beta before he crashed into that skyscraper?
But it isn’t important
because it predates Apple OS-X.. and in fact.. Apple was going to be in trademark trouble.. but they settled btw, you know what the Z80 processor is?
They call it OS-X, not OS X–which is Apple’s OS.
his page is under construction so no source code or binary package is available yet…
I thought Mac made Apples
Lupine| it a embded os err cpu
Because as usual the CPU is always processing instructions which sometimes slows it down. Which if something was an emergency that would be bad.
or, apple made macs
Apple ended up paying/licensing from them, just to avoid a rather open/shut lawsuit
I just got a $79 320 gb sata HD today
the Z80 were used in some of the early home PC’s.. such as the Tandy 80.. aka the Trash 80
FreeTrade you did from where
Macintosh is not even the best apple. THey should have called it Golden Delicious
Lupine| why the tandy was good system had great programs better then the ibm comptuers
silly computer people
Ive found out I need more for backup. Its better to use Internal HDs for backup and use portables for actual data storage
but its only ~25 years out of date
but, for what they still use it for, its a good chip
microwaves, calculators, etc
Apple should have a Granny Smith computer really cheap
z80 was in the gameboy too
because it doesnt take a lot to corrupt a lot of USB/Firwire externals Also its slower with the externals
FreeTrade where did you buy that drive online store ???
drive
FreeTrade again where did you find that drive so cheap
anyways, this is my current RT controller of choice: http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/201847
tigerdirect
FT right because if the main drive dies, you can install a new main drive, and read backups off the backup drive
FreeTrade oh I tought you went o coscto
no problems with USB
FreeTrade how much does it cost at coscto
and drivers
Bought it with my wifes 0 interest till july 2008 construction Business credit card Not that I couldnt pay cash for it, but with 0 interest, why ?
then put mp3’s and movies on the USB drive and older backups
US, I agree thats what I plan to do
drives are cheap now
Im moving all my movies and stuff to the USB
I have to 80 GB internal drives, same exact type two
They are taking up a lot of space on my hd
FreeTrade why not move them to dvd
I have a 300 gig external or is it 200 gig ? I forget and an 80 gig GOP, I will eventually a lot of them are programs like Oillie Norths War Stories.
and then I have the 400GB USB drive for mp3’s, picture archives, old backups and porn
FreeTrade why not move your movies to dvd
DOH
A great collection of history HiS documentaries are 1st class
I suppose porn counts as “picture archive”
Then see you keep your family pictures on your portable as well as maybe copies of documents like birth certs, ss etc, encrypted and then when you have a fire you grab it and run
yeah now I got my scanner working again I should scane a lot of stuff
But I also plan on doing of site storage for that too its getting cheap
back that up to USB and a DVD
Some charge a fortune..
wha tis site storage
although a copy of a birth certificate might just help you get a valid one it won’t be considered real
but others have programs which encrypt your data way over 256 and then they uploand only data, they probably have a database of all data files or maybe your registry registers data files vs program files and so on.
FreeTrade but olly north is not bias in war stories
which you dont need
but it will tell you what county and provide non-certified info that you can verify later
you can always buy a new windows vista or XP you cant buy that Photo, or that document or etc. You can always buy a new msft office, or adobe or whatever but agains not the documents. so all you really need to back up is all your data..
I even keep a HD in the bank safe deposit box
Lupine| you do
yeah you can do that or put DVD’s in there
Lupine| no way
it’s a good way to have offsite storagte
Lupine| what does that hd have
even thou I have a firesafe at home.. well…
what do you keep in that hd
I think DVD’s would melt at some point
all my personal files, information, etc
and do you regulary back that hd up
Lupine yep. I plan on usin this new drive as perhaps a exact copy of the main drive so if it it fails the new one takes over.
US-Male what do you mean melt and how FreeTrade wouldn’t that slow your computer down
gop_; melt. Turn form solid phase ot liquid phase
See I need to move off DVR shit and convert it to mp2
US-Male how
generally this is a function of temperature ;P
which takes awhile
lol
if it stored in a case
or is it mp4 ? Whichever isnewer
US-Male oh I see
hahah
so dvd don
Then when its my 2 or 4 or whatever I can burn it to disk anc play it in any player
dvd don’t have a large life
firesafes won’t stay cool forever - -tat’s why you might consider a safe deposit box or offsite storage
FreeTrade but it easy to do dvr to mp4 to dvd
JEsus, you guys looking at where those climbers are on tv ?
it easy FreeTrade it takes couple of seconds
now my big gun cabinet well.. it would survive the house burning down.. it’s like a 90minute burn time
FT yeah
They are like ants attached to a shear wall some of thm.
the buring on to the dvd takes longer
yeah in which case, unloaded might be better
GOP it takes me an hour to say convert a 2 hour program to mp4 How do you do it in seconds ? I use Nero there newer release
you know what would suck is if you have a gun cabinet in the basement, guns pointing up — fire hits your basement and they all go off
have a fast cpu
newer= last year or so
and lots of memory and use pincle software
I have a fast cpy
FreeTrade do you have 16 x dvd burner
and tons of ram I have converted programs and never topped out my ram GOP I have to convert it before I write it.
perhaps the loaded ones should point downward if on a lower floor hehhe
do you know a program which is faster than Nero ? Which can do it fast ? Nero is not fast
HAHAHAHHAHAH.. when my wife’s company sent her her new computer, they sent her 2 LCD’s. She kept her old ones we bought [ as they’re better ].
it takes an hour to convert it
Lupine| why two
a 7 gig file is easily an hour or more or 2
So as a joke, I set those two on the bookcase next to my desk.. my wife comes in.. see’s them.. “Okay, now you’re just getting silly”
