10.23.07
Lets say someone designs and builds a house but it gets damaged by a storm Someone else comes in and rebuilds
which is why you could buy $5000 software programs in china for $5 in 1995
well the wireless phones work well
If I produce software, it’s mine. I can use it however I want and I don’t have to tell anyone about it, much less how it works. BUT when I go sell a disc containing that software, I shouldn’t be able to dictate how someone else uses that disc - even if they decide to produce their own identical discs.
Today I dont know of many software programs worth 5k, but you can buy autocad and adobe and all kinds of stuff for very cheap still, its just hidden better.
What if that software’s function is to pirate other people’s copyrighted works?
do they make software with cries for help built in? if you bootleg a copy it calls for help the next time you log on?
The fact that it took me a year to produce that disc and it takes someone else 30 seconds is irrelevant.
My brother wa sin a shop in china and he said he was lookign for something, and someone said, please come here (He wasnt looking for bootleg) And some guy took him on circuitous route to another building where a door opened and inside was every software program you could think of.
Pico, You missed my point completely
I never indicated that the time you invested in it determined the price of it
Cathy, it doesn’t matter what it is. You write a song or software or a book… It’s yours UNTIL you share it. Now if someone else wants to copy it, fine. You shared it. The only limitation would be if the purchaser agreed in a contract that they would not share it.
here’s a good legal paper http://www.orangebookblog.com/files/purdue_v_endo.pdf
I said that if you spent 2 years of labor workign on a project a game or something and you couldnt copyright it and get exclusive rights to it, then you would be fucked
that what I was trying to say
whether it takes you 2 minutes or 2 years
pico; RIAA and MPAA would like your name, address, and phoen number.
yeah, if you spend 2 years digging holes on your property that nobody wants to buy you’re equally fucked
Cathy, haha
And I wouldnt have a PENNY Invested in biotech if I knew Cathy was going to steal my investment as soon as they discovered the great cure.
I invest in biotech so they can use the money for reasearch so when they do invent the cure I can make a ton of money off it
I would … I might want the cure someday
Cathy, I’ve never ripped a disc and uploaded it. The notice on the disc says I can’t do so. The same isn’t true for mp3s on the net. There’s no such notice.
welcome to the foundation of socialism/communism.
US thanks, for that source
OcDoc, Im trying to convince these people that capitalism has a reason and logic to it and socialism is unfair
your not heloing
of course I want to help people
FreeMrkts, if you’re smart you already don’t invest in biotech companies. You’d have better luck in Vegas.
but in theory a cure is the same as a new house
well, only looking at one side isn’t really helping either
its a product
The thing that chaps my ass more than anything in these kinds of discussions is property taxs. You pay a butt-load of money for all the rights to a piece of land, you lay through the butt again for all of the material and people’s time and labour to errect your home on it, you move into it, you live in it, and then if you don’t pay the tax man precisely how much he asserts out of thin air you own for the priviledge of private property rights, you just lo
not necessarily, biotech is big business now
and its been invested in
That pisses me off to absolutely no end.
many people donate to a good cause who don’t expect to profit financially from it
I would invest in either Amgen or Genentech
and the technology in the house or hte new cure is an investment which someone is entitled to make aprofir off of.
or a fund which owns both
FreeMrkts, my point of view is the capitalist one. Patents are socialist in nature.
and if you dont do it then people ar enot goign make as many cures
why does it chap your ass? I thought you were still living in your mothers house.
the rest are too small for me to risk
the government insists on a monopoly to provid the infrastructure that they make you use in your house
Amnd there is no way in hell anyone can twist will I allow people to twist logic and reality to claim somehow intellectual value doesnt exist
which is what these guys are ttying to claim
Bcause all work is intellectual value
patents and copyrights were originally enforced to encourage new inventions and culture contributions
FreeMrkts, does that apply to other industries?
technology has completely obviated copyrights and patents
patents are quite capitalist
whether its the knowlege and skill to build a brick bench or a complex molecular chain of chemicals which cure cancer
the reason we limit them you could call socailist, but so be it
I do, but I want to buy 2 hectares at some point inthe future and build a gargantuan subterranean dream home to rival the Starship Enterprise in technical sophistication, but I know I’ll have to build in massive fortifications very quickly because shortly there after, I’ll have to fend off the Indiana State Police swat when the tax man comes calling.
Patents are anti-capitalist. Capitalism is about competition. Patents are a government-granted monopoly for social benefit.
That’s all… kinda insane.
Patents are socialist ?
I’ll be using no public infrastructure. I’ll be off grid in every way you can think off.
no, the opposite is true.
Now i have heard everything
why don’t you first figure out how to survive in the real world on your own, intead of crying adn whining about the real world?
Ok this is twisted reality and logic
I didn’t say I agreed with the principle
It’s reality
I build a house for 2 years I want pay
the ownership of a patent allows someone to spend a few billion on development. Otherwise, no reason.
Lupine; I’m moving out next August and I’ll lively never see my mom again, so yeah.
You own the house. You don’t have any right to sell the house for any given value.
That’s up to the potential buyers.
Sojmeone else invents a drug they have a right to exclusive profits from that drug for a period, or a software program or book for a period
hurrah.. it only took you to what.. age 36 now, to be 18?
If they can get the exact same house for half the price, they’re getting that one.
we limit vertain patent lifetimes (like drugs), in the hope that this is better for society
No but see your enying someone owns his discovery
*certain
You saying what a person creates is not his
and your going to steal it
because y ou rationalize it like a communist
No, I’m saying the effort someone puts into something is irrelevant
the hope is that if the “optimum patent lifetime” is used, we balance profit engines with pateint needs
and say its really the oppostive of communism
no it is communism when you take his invention by force and dont pay him for it
Communists say their effort is all that’s valuable.
I moved out for three years when I got my Masters. Now, I’m going back for my Ph.D., and this whole late out of the starting blocks thing is a family tradition. My mom didn’t move out of her mom’s house until she was over 40.
or if you decide you can only be the government, that its worth x amount of dollars
you are the socialist
not the guy who copyrites or patents
yea.. master’s and can only live at home with mommy.. lol
hes the capitalist
but now that the government funds almost all scientific research with tax dollars, who should get the profit?
you are the socialist
this is eco 101
haha
business 101
all of which I aced
Mathew did you get that job carrying bricks at the construction site?
ocdoc, that introduced a complexity and then it probably should he shared
Considering I’m not getting any job offers for all of the applications I’m flinging all over God’s green indiana, yeah, I’m having kinda a hard time making it on my own with my Master’s degree.
this is why one drug may have patents from 15 differnet companies or entities
Companies shar patents al lthe time and though its complex its just
Mathew/Cathy hell, i knew I wouldn’t hire someone who is so phucked up, that ate age 36 they still live with mommy
and there are laws to sort it out
know
And the rule of law determines who has control of the final price and they negotiate for the contribution of each company and or university
almost all scientific research? hmm.. i dunno what the ratio of public/private financing is.. but would be shocked if it was almost all
Well, then, it looks like I’ll just get to live off the public dole for the rest of my life as an unemployable disabled transsexual since the world is ful lof bigots and homophobes like Lupine that I can’t get a job.
ok I can recommend the Logitech FreePulse wireless headphones for music now
Let’s say someone designs and builds a house, but it gets damaged by a storm. Someone else comes in and rebuilds it the way it was, because it’s cheaper than hiring the original architect. Do they owe royalties to the architect?
they work nicely
might make a decent gift for someone
unversities I believe carry patents just like reasearch companies and researchers
lol, yea, that’s it.
US, but it should be for free
hahah
because patents are wrong
so should ipod
The architect put a lot of effort into that design. He should be guaranteed the right to rebuild, right?
yeah they should shit it to me for free too
no, the architect got paid already
err ship
LOL
they can only charge for the plastic and the solder!
nice typo on my part
Pico an architects design actually he owns
Unless he agrees to sell it
Legally
it depends on the original contract … the architect gets paid for one design for one building, the buyer gets the design in exchange, so the design is HIS
Legally in the USA means actually
FreeMrkts, so he has an exclusive right to rebuild a house of his design?
he owns it
see why do I have to pay for shipping — the truck is coming here anyway
Unless he releases it.
it should be free mannn!
I’m arguing against the law. I know he legally owns it.
US thats right dood!
US, everything should be free
hahah
Someone else was payign for the gas anyway!
hehehe
and my flight should be free -the plane was going *anyway*
the Man is keeping us down
hey twobar
welcome to the socialist hour
Free
cool !
Everything is free today!
Why shouldn’t rich people support me ?
haha Black Saturday!
FreeMrkts, so if I buy a custom house and it’s damaged in the storm, it would be illegal for me to rebuild it? I would have to pay the architect again?
Twobarro! Savior of the downtrodden!
hehehe
Tailor, give me five bucks !
pico, no.
no
Why not?
ok, just 5?
yes, five for now
there are ways to get flights for nearly free. Be a couriour, or hop a corporate jet that was chartered to go from A to B if you’re going from B to A at the same time.
http://www.efnetcars.net/view_photo.php?set_albumName=rides&id=titan1
He put a lot of effort into that design. I shouldn’t be able to rebuild it cheaper until his rights expire.
a drug courier ?
message me your paypay stuff, I’ll send it
It would be illegal for someone else to build an exact duplicate of your house in theory if he retained the intellectual rights to the design, but in your contract with the architect you can say you insist on the rights to the design.
yeah man, ok !!
package couriout.
And that the design will be owned by you the homeowner.
My ex asked me for a diamond, my only questiion…”How big?”
If you weren’t needed for further experiments your owners would have “scarificed” you long ago.
yeah but I want to fly when it’s good for my schedule
FreeMrkts, yes in the contract. If there’s a contract in the transfer, that’s one thing. I’m all for contracts.
Yaakov !
I explained it already … scroll up
drug couriour is a job that tends to have a hyper actively high rate of turn over.
and those other 100 ppl are going anyway, right ?
Hello, Twobar.
they won’t notice lil’ old me
So that the 50k you spend on the architect isnt allowd to make 1000 custom homes that look exactly like yours right next door
Thats why you pay attention to contracts
or have we decided contracts are socialist too ?
Thenyou’ll be the one chartering the flight from A to B and I’ll be the one flying for nearly free on your plane’s empty return flights.
Are contracts socialist boys ?
OcDoc, well let’s say it’s part of a development and the buyer doesn’t get full rights to the design.
So we can say we cant make contracts
I cant say I want to own the design to my house if I pay you
that’s self-proving … why are you asking?
Contracts should be the method for protecting intellectual property.
There is “work for hire” where the one who pays you owns all the intellectual output.
nah I didn’t charter exactly — I picked one that fits my criteria as best as possible
the architect needs to specify exactly what you’re paying him for and what you get in exchange … as long as the contract is legal, it rules
or that You will never build a house in berkeley with the same design ever, or allow others to build the using your design ever
brb gotta see if these headphones have any range
twobar holds the patent for covering up adam’s apples….all done with in the field research, and no govt. grants
say, this new IE is kind of gay
2bar it sure is
yowz is “all woman” except for his adam’s apple
Finally, a browser for your people!
US, this is the first time I’ve looked at it. Yuck
Yaakov dam right
I plan to write into my contracts with all of my contractors will have all of the documents created that contains design details of my home are owned by me, not the contractor, so when their part of the job is done, they must turn over all documents to me.
OcDoc, the main question is, if you buy a house but you don’t have the legal rights to the design, can you repair damage according to that design? (yes) Why shouldn’t the architect be given the exclusive contract? That would be consistent with other laws. For example when a musician is given the exclusive right to print a CD.
if it’s not specified in the contract or clearly understood, then case law and common law and legislation rule
US-Male prefers to be called stephan
because home design isn’t copyrighted under the law … unless you have a contract
“Now listen woman while I speak to you…. shut up”!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htgtVucUHPg
I also plan to do as much of the construction as possible on my own. Even to the point of renting the crane myself and operting it myself.
nothing new is created by the architect
Cathy you have to have an operators license for that in some states
uCathy you have to have an operators license for that in some states/u
yowz| wants to have a sexual reassignment, but none of the choices “really match his flair”
And I do agree that when you purchase a CD that says “unauthorized copying prohibited”, you are implicitly agreeing to a contract. Uploading that music would be a violation. However, someone else downloading the music never agreed to anything. The pattern of musical notes exists abstractly and can’t (well shouldn’t) be considered property.
For a non-custom home you are almost certianly going to get non-exclusive rights. That is, for your own use, in perpetuity, but not exlusively.
kaliuna, and if not certified, there won’t be any employees working underneath it
you are a pansy still living with your mommy.. that’ll be the closest you ever been to having some real balls
yowz - for sure…
receiving stolen goods is illegal … same principle
You’re also required to allow the tax man onto your property so he can tally up your extortio–uh, property tax bill too. Doesn’t mean I’ll bother doing it.
aww c’mon now
be nice
LOOOSE CHANGE …. HAS ANYONE seen IT?
cathy, I often wont work with architects because I can design something as well as they can and if I bring them on they make the cost go up. Or I might want to contract with an architect for a set of blueprints or design and I want to purchase them and then cut lose the architect who duplicates himself as a secong contractor, 2nd building inspector etc and costs the job an extra 10 -20% which if its a 300k hom can be substantial.
OcDoc, I’m not too keen on that concept either
Cathy the assessment people - they don’t even have to come onto your property to figure value -
what concept?
Cathy I honestly doubt anyone would rent you the crane w/o it. If you destroy another house in the process they would be liable
Im not in love with architects though at times they can be very creative, artistic. so it depends on the circumstances.
Timur lives with his mom
The thing with the design I have in mind means I can completely build the shell and then decide how to arrange the interior much, much later.
Comet — hi - and yup
OcDoc, I sell you a watch. You shouldn’t have to do a full investigation to make sure it’s not stolen. That should be assumed.
LilPoison, I’ve read a good amount of the guide that debunks it.
hi kali
Does that count?
hi FreeTrade
and cathy
I disagree
CometBaby maybe she should concentrate first on being able to get that laborers job at a construction site.. before setting his hopes up too high.
that’s fine too. If they can’t see my square footage, they can;t bill me for it.
wolfy .. lol
P_O so every one of the clames are proven false?
Yowz still lives with his mom and she’s getting tired of his asking for money, because , after all, he is 64.
Cathy - they can and would bill you
the prosecutor has to prove intention to receive the stolen property
but hey, little boys living in mommy’s basement always have swell dreams.
of course, in many areas.. you need a permit to build.. which requires drawings, etc.. and inspetions.
LilPoison, not necessarily proven false, but they’re usually shown to be non sequiturs (logical fallacies), totally wrong, or irrelevant.
OcDoc, I’ve heard otherwise, but I’ll admit I haven’t read the statutes.
not always.. there are a few areas where simple posession is enough.
And if I have 50,000 sq ft and they bill me for a home of 1500 sq ft, you know what? I just might pay it.
what i’m trying to figure out, is if you’re craning building materials in place, that means there are employees somewhere attaching them. that means work comp policy, that means work comp company wants copy of gen liability policy, that means copy of operator’s license
how were the windows blown at the bottom floors?
well, possession of a stolen vehicle is an obvious example
Lupine - exactly - and I would think Cathy knows that or else just being naive
and what about the sounds of bombs going off?
Cathy - you are spouting nonsense
oh cool an NWO loony
you can’t possibly receive something that requires state registration without know it was shady
cathy, You can say to an architect, hey look, I have an idea, I want you to draw it and have it engineered, but I will design it and explain it, I will own the design when its done, and then I will release you of liability which can be tricky and if an architect agrees to that you are fine, he will probably charge more per hour, he should.. he has more bases to cover.
twobar, when she won’t give it to me, i just spice up her martini and wait til she passes out and steal it outta her purse
LilPoison, take a physics class.
hi all!
but it never happened in any other building
Timur
But I would hire a draftsman or draw it myself as I have before and get an engineer to run the math
LilPoison, do you have proof of that?
it is up to the conspiracy theorist to prove the theory, it’s not up to us to disprove your questions
and add seismic staps and determine sizes of welds and or beams etc.. design of cement
rofl, not another nutjob
What should I get
Ginger Beef
or Chicken in Black Bean Sauce?
ginger beef
I’d do the drawing and engineering myself. I doubt I’d even have a professional architect on the project.
my god, they actuall yhave those in the great white north?
FreeMrkts a daunting task for anyone.. let alone one who can’t figure out how to get out of mommy’s home
most conspiracy theories are a mix of coincidence and myth
why do people make conspiracy theories? the people in government I just people like you and me
yeah chinks are everywhere
And as for building permits, again, what the govt doesn’t know can’t hurt me.
lol
oops i mean asians
And I plan to build in the middle of BFE.
well, freeze dried at least
wonferful asian brethren
actually, asians are my second favourite race
+d
or rather, ‘culture’
I dislike lots of asian culture.
who’s last on your list ? the japanese ?
Herzen likes chinese … they come up to his knees and are so eager to please
Chinas superior race thing is pretty fucked.
Thats correct, the people in the government and military are average people like you or I. Which makes the charge that the military laucnhed a cruise missile at the pentagon all but ridiculous
Japanese culture is fuckin retarded
lilpoison, it was midget jews specially bred to detonate the building, they crawled in trhough rats holes at night under the direction of b ush and lived in 12 inch tunnels under the building and burrows.. Then they came ou t that d ay and while eveyryone was distracted by the airplnes hiting the building they set of the bombs..
I love eating a little Chinese.
what with all the little-girl rape, bus groping and panty machines
LilPoison, change your name to something helpful like LilRainbow. ‘poison’ suggests something not very positive, and after, we all love rainbows.
hi Oc and Herz and Old and PO and Free
lol FT
and Lup! hehe
Hmm what is this Rainbow Beef?
FreeMrkts, you’re going to create a monster if you keep saying that
FT Bush is a stealth j00
You’ll see it on a website a month later.
Then the midget jews went back into thier holes in theground and escaped to the whitehouse and had dinner with cheney
5 different molds each a diff color!
ahaha
ok
I’ve decided to go with Beef
but…
extra ginger
Curried Beef, Ginger Beef, Rainbow Beef?
and one huge black bean
I dont know about conspriacy theorists, what makes them tick.
LilPoison, you see, you have to feel positive about yourself and your self esteem will rise if you change your nic to something positive, like LilDiversity or something
yeah man liking beef doesn’t make you gay. Don’t even worry
only people who fear that they are somehow inferior need a superiority complex
And it’s not nonsense to want to build my own home the way I want it without having to obtain permission or pay extortion to the government.
lol Two
Right, Timur ?
euphorian
I honestly do believe and trap agrees with me they have the same type of mind as a holocaust deniar.
I do think its almost like a mental illnes
lilpoison…join twobar in his “peace place”
Twobar!
whatever you say boss!
Cathy — you hae to get building permits anywhere in the USA —
yowz, yes
FT largely it’s even the same people
hey Swig !
And frankly I almost pity them thier ignorance and their disease.
US exactly
I heard that John Kerry was considering taking another run for the presidency in 2008
You mean by stating something other than what overwhelming evidence supports?
heh … depends
Kaliuna but he’s figured it all out!!
FreeMrkts, it is fun to think of alternate causalities for things.
its one thing not to be a sucker who accepts everything all the time unquestioning..
Lupine — ya that and a $3 bill will get ya nowhere
But actually believing something despite mounds of evidence
is truly sad.
and another to be an obvious fool
get rainbow beef. It’s very diverse.
After the logistics are worked out, the major work would be done before the govt even became aware anytyhing was happening. By then, there will be nothing short of invasion they could do to stop it.
and inclusive
PO has “mounds” on his mind all the time
for years I thought that the Kennedy Motorcade route had been changed at the last minute
i’ve have 4 of whatever cathy’s smokin
Cathy — do you have any idea how stupid you sound
OK call me an idiot, But I trust the American Society of Strutural engineers who said it happened the way we all understand it happened
US-Male, the student’s union on the campus where i work hands out “celebrate diversity” literature all the time
it was the one thing that made me think there might have been inside information in the assassination …. just recently I found out that it wasn’t even true
hehehe
FreeMrkts, they’re obviously all midget jews as well.
US-Male, i laugh and toss it usually, i don’t like holding onto things with rainbows on it for too long, someone might try to jump me and pack my ass
Herzen but do they actually throw parties !?
lol
I tend to trust a whole society of professionals who devote their lives to the study of materials, loads and failures
Herzen is the president of the American Society of Man-Boy Love, an alternative to the pussies who belong to NAMBLA
but you should see their trapeze act, while tossing a matza between em
and forces
FreeMrkts ayup
I might add
I’m sure I sound like a rugged individualist who has no intention of putting up with authoritarian bullshit.
bI’m sure I sound like a rugged individualist who has no intention of putting up with authoritarian bullshit./b
Twobar celebrates diversity in his literature - Colt, Smith and Wesson, Ruger..
go Timur !
if people REALLY want to celebrate diversity they should hold inter-racial sex parties every wednesday
US but I do!
then I might believe them
hahahaha
http://www.efnetcars.net/view_photo.php?set_albumName=rides&id=titan4
dam right
FT good man!
purpdank wants voice
US-Male, that’s what I do!
see that’s really doing it see
Cathy — you sound like a 16 yr old know-it-all who has no clue to real life
Celebrate Diversity, own several different calibers
darth!
Ok I want to go eat.. Adios
Celebrate Diversity, have sex with everything
burp
FreeMrkts — go for it!
I have yet to see a celebration from people who talk the most about it
DOC… hi
Cathy, congratulations, you’ve been compared to me without even being my age
I want to see the damn party
US shoudl I sell all my biotech and pharma stocks on monday ?
Kaliuna the age is about right on
I think we should all get as much free bread as we can handle
FREE BREAD
These guy are depressing me
I’m not seling mine heheh
hahahha
Lupine — could be
I’d pay cash money to be 16 again.
Free bread ! It’s innocent.
Me either, I will make money off them
I played BF2 last night; on Kubra, some sniper made an almost undetected entry towards the USMC base. “almost” being the operative word here, because he didn’t see me come up and knife him
Cya T0t! All
Cathy, yuck
TImur — free bread — hmmm
latah FreeMrkts
check this out http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/bbc_evans.wmv
bye hun
explain that!!
voice purpdank please
As soon as Bob the city inspector sees heavy machinery going to the property he’s going to wonder if you have a permit. And he has time to look.
I wouldn’t be 16 or do any of this bullshit again, for any amount of money
which scares you more: John Kerry as president in 2008 or anything else?
no thanks
do we have to?
Swigert you knifed a poor multiplayer avatar?
hi!
good on you
Twobar, I’ll never get people who want to be perpetually young.
PO exactly
the poor guy tried soooo hard…but meh
If you want to go back to not having any responsibilities, just drop them all and become homeless.
That’s the way winners do it.
What’s Bob the CITY inspector doing out on my property 80 miles by winding roads in the middle of frickin’ NOWHERE?
bWhat’s Bob the CITY inspector doing out on my property 80 miles by winding roads in the middle of frickin’ NOWHERE?/b
PO, its not even responsibilities, its…the whole thing
please watch i just wanted an explamation
Cathy, just doing his job, ma’am.
lol
Cathy, that’s what you pay him for
Twobar, lack of responsibilities is really the only reason someone should envy a young person.
And even then not really.
they don’t go looking for your house
lilpoison dont even bother… most americans have long since suspended intuition and questioning
anyone read bod woodwards new book ?
Or county inspector, whatever the case may be
In many locations, they tax man now uses photo-recon to spot new construction.
you have to ask them to inspect by requesting a permit
can you get 80 miles from anything in indiana?
especially here in this channel
PO, well actually many envy being young, because of poor memories, only remembering the good things…also, the health aspects are desirable
this server I played on was bad - other side had far better organization, so they kept us on the defensive the whole time. Still fun, because we held them off
you might be able to evade the permit process by doing it yourself, but you can’t sell the property ever
By living in the middle of nowhere, I don’t may city taxes, which means I don’t pay Bob the inspector to do anything.
Cathy, I meant Ted the county inspector
By road, yeah.
FREE BREAd.
Twobar, I dunno, I could rather enjoy doing what I’m doing now forever.
Or Bert the state inspector
Swigert, yeah, I played some Karkan the other day, I went full on medical revive mode. nursed a squad all the way to the flag.
I’m gonna start a new political party based on that.
good thing my house will be subterranean.
PO, I’d rather have a ‘light envelope’, that is, be a being of pure energy or spirit. FARK these meat bodies.
boy what a fun game
It’s just that once you make something perpetual there’s no point.
you’re for us or you’re against us, and if the latter, you’re pro-starvation, whbich is evil!
we gotta play again together - be a sniper team or a tank crew
Swigert I should have some time later tonight
Swigert is a perpetual meat body
in a couple of hours
and circuses .. don’t forget the free circuses
Cathy = troglodyte!
OcDoc filmed himself having sex with an octopus
actually, that’s good for energy conservationm
dang
Cathy = Captain Catherine Janeway!
Twobar wishes he was as cool as Nancy Pelosi
on octopus ? damn
I’m not free - have thesis to write and that will keep me going until 3am
Oh god. Now people are gonna say I chose the name for that reason.
US, yes, its that suction cup action
have you ever seen the ancient japanes drawing “The Dream of the Fisherman’s Wife?”
Cathy, the only way is to buy a couple of Bobcats and do it yourself. No contractors, unless they’re also in on it.
Swigert WTF you doin here then?
Twobar I got a balistics question for you:
slackin!
Swiggy - and you did get past the righters block bit didn’t you?
blocked
I always thought “Janeway” was a really dumb name for her
Now I say mate, If it werent that you were such a wanker I might reprsent that coment about us bloody americans, Having lost my faith yuo say aye. Well Itaint my faith saying that little men at the end of the rainbow put the c4 into the holes mate. But Ill see you wankers back at the pub eh ? Nice bag of fruit by the way mate!
OcDoc, no, but I’ve heard of it
trying! trying!
actually I thought it referred to that cartoon character
put the C4 in the holes, mate !!
btw I am getting new teeth on monday finally.. They are wooden!
also why did “Janeway” have to be masculine to be a leader? Isn’t that sexist ?
hahaha
Swiggy — good!
wooden teeth !
“we do it MY way — the JANE way”
very sexy
hehehehehe — george washington free markets IV ehh
you’re angry when you’re beautiful
There’s the right mind set. There’s getting into my head.
I’m actually considering buying a small Cat bulldozer and large backhoe.
I”m going to have my front teeth blackened so it looks like they’re missing. Then I’ll go over to my parents house. I bet you they pay me to go away.
Twobar if you were going to provide a firearm to someone to commit suicide.. say a mother or the like.. and it was going to be something like a snub nose .357 magnum. would you use the standard 158grain “heavy” load.. or given the short barrel, go for the higher velocity 115grain loads? I mean, you want her to do it right.
Cathy, the Sunday coic strip!??!? Egads, no!
you’re a sick puppy
I know I’ve told you that before
well, soon as I saw your posts, I knew that was out
myself? I wuold choose the 12 guage
too messy
Lupine, I would knock her out and take her to the loony farm. But I wouldn’t use either in a short barrel, for full effect of the round, tho for that purpose either would work
at least go outside I hope
you don’t strike me as girly-girl or that shallow
I want to die by the most hugest explosive orgasm in history
yowz is a girly girl
TImur - doesn’t strike me that Cathy is even female
imagine you and I sniping together
My old name was Matthew Caine. My new legal name is, in fact, Mathilda Cathrine. I don’t feel like going by Mathilda on the internet.
Timur, me too. I told my wife that I want to go “in the saddle”.
hey, women are truckers too.
sure, that is you or I .. but what if you WANT the person to commit suicide
Swigert sniper team should be one sniper, one suplly
really?
that can work
ok, I just got totally creeped out
Timur - no kidding!
or sniper and medic
you just met your first modern day self-eunich
ouch.
Lupine, if I want someone to commit suicide, I completely stay away, because it becomes ‘karmic’, too close.
how long have you been coming to this channel?
Well, get to be 80 years old with a viagra prescription, and that wish just might some true.
my roomy can be the medic, he just does not follow orders well
well, cheaper than flying to Brazil, I guess
at least 10 yrs
Why’d you pick Mathilda?
DarthBurg is a girly-girl
hey now, you are jewish.. you should be used to a little snip! snip!
hehe
the song.. Waltzing Mathilda..
Twobar you take that back, or i will hit you with my purse
once a jollly swagman sat beside a billibong
except it doesn’t affect functionality. Brent Spiner’s Jewish, see
fully functional
okay, one medic, one supply, one sniper
mathilda … matt
see
i know.. just a joke
ok
I’m just completely, hyperlazy, procrastinaty. I just went with the simplest modification of my given name I could think of.
bI’m just completely, hyperlazy, procrastinaty. I just went with the simplest modification of my given name I could think of./b
Magda’s washing up
procrastinatory
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