10.31.07
and what happens if you continue to raise taxes like prices on stuff say everyone wants a sony playstation 3
we see bears all the time
“It may in some circumstances be right to choose to withold or withdraw treatment, knowing it will possibly, probably, or even certainly result in death.”
or the jews that had hindsight and left
you can kill bears with bolt action rifles
you can never deal in absolutes, but the rewards outweigh the risks
its common knowledge that all gun laws do is make it more difficult for law abiding citizens to own a gun. they do not affect criminals
Eyaw–stick with me on this one
Eyaw_Nayr, it affects law abiding citizens disproportionately
ok
how is that statement characterized as wanting to kill babies?
and only encourages criminals to arm themselves because it makes it easier to abuse the sheep
Today, ACK! What was this about specifically ?
if you want to kill lots of people, you don’t use a gun…you use a bomb or a truck
restricting firearms on the populace is NEVER rewarding, period
is it ok for me to protect myself against wild animals??
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=416003&in_page_id=1770
you do not need a fully automatic ak47 to protect yourself from wild animals
but there is a difference between regulation and banishment. If you essentially eliminated all reasonable methods of procuring weapons you make it harder
the title totatlly missummarizes what was said
Eyaw_Nayr, if every law abiding citizen carried a pistol, and would protect themselves if attacked
then we would have anarchy
herr-I do not have an automatic–wait-the clip holds 10 rounds
are you saying every citizen knows of self control
what would happen to confrontational crimes like rape or car jacking?
in the land of milk and honey? are you that blind?
I don’t trust my fellow citizens with a gun
hehe, oops, M$ flags gmail as a virus…
I find that they are generally idiots
everyone starts off as a law abiding citizen
i don’t trust the government enough to be the only ones WITH guns
so you think your fellow citizens are all morons
criminals (both amateurs and professionals) will ALWAYS find ways of procuring firearms, no matter how much the laws allegedly make it tough to procure those firearms
herr-come steal my car then
and you’re the only one who is smart
Carious,No, You must live exactly how the leftwingers decide you should live and do exactly what they tell you to do, they will decide which rights you can have and which can be denied. They will control every aspect of your decision making, especially if you try to open a buisness, they will even tell you the colors to paint it.
carious i don’t even know what you’re talking about
how can japan function so well ? without guns they have lower unemployment! lower crime rate
We can’t have people with cars, they could kill people…look how many people each year are killed by car accidents and pollution from cars….WE MUST abolish cars….for the children
You think I am joking ? Let me take you to some zoning meetings
A common criminal is going to find it much harder. THe mob is a bit out of the area of this discussion
exactly freetrade-NOT!!
wotgorill key term there being accidents
guns were MADE to kill cars are not
cars are bad
People don’t kill people…cars kill people
But more importantly I trust the government and law enforcement more than I trust citizens
Eyaw_Nayr, adam_mcd, what impact does the conceal carry permit have on crime?
thats like saying WE SHOULD BAN FRENCH BREAD BECAUSE YOU CAN SHOVE IT DOWN SOMEONES MOUTH
cars and influenza
Japanese culture is monolitihic.. For the most part.
in china, you break a law they shoot you and mail your family a bill for the bullet heh
thebarry what relevance does that have to the discussion
almost 80,000 americans per year are killed by them
guns only kill if you shoot accurately 
japan is unique
Janet-give me your weapon!!
Other cultures in fact are looked down upon as inferior.
true gun control
japan is unique pfft
Carious..over my dead body
exactly same time you get mine
well, conceal carry permits are a form of legal firearm proliferation
no one has offered their views on why japan can function so well, and still ban firearms
you will be dead first… I promise you
True Gun Control is hitting a Gun Grabber double tap and one between the eyes.
what impact do you think they have on crime?
hahahhaha
Besides, why kill with a gun…when a sword makes it more fun and bloodier?
BS-duel?? j/k
so well? is that why their social freedom is so horrid? is that why so many kids commit suicide?
ajofi, 80000 are killed by what?
influenza and car accidents
i would say “liberals” but its much too small of a number.
lolol
restrict civilian gun ownership to bolt action rifles
Freedom obviously gives more opportunity for criminality I will admit that.
wotgorrila when the rapier I think its called the small light weight fighting sword came out in france…..30k deaths that year
how about countries like Britian and Canada who have drastically smaller rates of death by firearms and crime rates overall? The have firearms close to banned, almost completely in britian
But i wouldnt trade freedom for absolute security.
you did by votiong for bush
how many drive by shootings would you see if pablo could only fire 1 round every 5 seconds
um, England has a violent crime rate now over twice that of the US. try again.
Eyaw_Nayr, yes, they banned pistols
AHHHHH I miss the days before guns…..when we rushed at each other with spears and killed hundreds of thousands in a day…none of this pussy war crap with just a couple thousand spread out over years
I dotn want a singapore govt where you can be caned for spitting gum out on the lawm
and what happened to their crime rates Eyaw_Nayr
well no we’ve traded freedom for something far less than absolute security
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border control being a big missing factor
i agree with sending national gaurd to borders
all this money being spent on Iraq instead of protecting our borders
You mean like in Dallas Texas, Nov 22, 1963?
Lupine, We send out most difficult poisoning cases to Scotland yard because they have so much experience with them.
Eyaw_Nayr, that’s a horrible example, violent crime has skyrocketed in countrys that have banned firearms
there is other stuff to worry about. with the dims in power. there will be hillary care/ and this time it may pass
decreased arrests, decreased criminals + terrorists
britain, aus
the fence with mexico is a laughing stock
no i don’t lupine as that was not a drive by shooting in any sense of the word
750 miles out of a 2000 mile border?
ajofi–money is and has been spent protecting our boarders
russia has a horrible crime rate, and they’ve banned pistols as well
no.. it is called the veto
and only 1/2 that has been allocated 325 miles of fencing
it was absolutely in every sense of the word. Oh, and far more disasterious for society as a whole.
hysterical what’s the point
yes but russia cant enfore the law correctly so thats a terrible example
moot point
oh yeah to get people to vote for you as though you’re doing your job but aren’t
russias economy is in the gutter
Actually my neighborhood is safer than many european streets as far as murder goes and I live in the SF bay area, in the urban part center of the bay area
I guess the Uk can’t enforce the law as well?
I contend that Britian and Canada have lower crime rates
how many assasinations do you see like that every day
how can you have a decent infrastructure to deal with crime when yo economy is in the gutter
compared to drive by shootings
we don’t need a fence. just landmine our borders
I agree.. the crime in the UK is *SO TERRIBLE* the police are informed of what crimes NOT to enforce
Eyaw_Nayr, there’s another possibility here
Granted UK crime rates have risen, but they are not higher than the US
the same money is being spent, not more
In Amerrica the truth is murders are very area specific.
if i want small government and low taxes and freedom to own guns, which party should i vote for?
Eyaw_Nayr, you might be wrong about guns being the problem
it WAS a drive by shooting, dumb ass. Are you so fucking ignorant that you dont know HOW JFK was assassinated?
And on top of it, most of the recommendations made by the 9/11 Commission still have not been implemented.
none currently.
lupine are you implying that someone drove by JFK’s car and shot into it while moving
Lupine, it was a cia plot led by Cheney and Bush 
it is the people who use the guns. that is the problem
No. JFK’s car drove by while someone was shooting
This is actually a campaign promise by Pelosi to keep an eye on. She said the 9/11 Commission recommendations, all of them, would be legislated within the first 100 hours. Hours, not days.
so do you agree with killing a man who entered your house late at night?
damn Rove!!
that is not a drive by shooting idiot
hehe
I truely think that the government, by proxy of being elected officals, generall know better than the average citizen. The government should do whats right for the people.
if that man is not someone who is invited, sure.
a man breaks into my house at night-he gets carried out
a drive by shooting is when an occupant in a car usually with an automatic weapon drives by his target and shoots from the vehicle’s window
Carious dont you find that draconian?
Drive by shootings appear in gangland, and almost everyone in gangland is a gangster, we have more liberal rights for defendants, We cant hold someone uncharged for a criminal offense a year in jail like they can in the netherlands, A war enemy is a different matter.
not in 63
usually, but not required.
i think college educated people should get an extra vote
a left wing san francisco nut as speaker. stupid voters
Eyaw-I find it hilarious
john locke’s idea
Africa is so much safer without guns…. When they come to burn down your town and chop up your family with machette’s…you can’t shoot yourself by accident
someone shooting into a vehicle from a static position is not a drive by shooting
africas economy is in the gutter
speaking of college, Pelosi has promised cutting college loan interest rates in 1/2 in the first 100 hours.
lets not bring up countries with shitty economies as comparisions
Eyaw_Nayr, doing the right thing is easy, the problem is knowing what is right
i wonder if that’s a fat chance in hell
Carious havent we matured as a race/species past the need for violent solutions to conflict thebarry thats why we have elections
no wai
but i bet it got her more college votes
my rates are at 5.5 % they better go down
I think College educated people should get half a vote unless they continue thier education like I did after college and thru their entire life.
1/2
Eyaw-this is a home invasion-I will shoot the guy
raising taxes is what the dims will do ajofi lol
Peaceful people are easy to beat the crap out of
over the course of the loan, especially if you go to law or medical school, that’s a lot of money
Eyaw_Nayr, Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
I say we just add more taxes, around 50% and let the government do what it sees fit. The know better than some redneck who wants to buy more shotguns and not buy healthcare.
dems
Although the gop would win every election if non college students couldnt vote.
so how does a poor child educate himself ?
raising taxes on those making more than $250,000 is what they’re talking about doing
taxes.
people shouldnt be sponging on the gov ajofi
250k and living in NY or Ca is nothing
A child is born to be educated, thats what the 5 senses are for, and the brain.
ajofi, if i own a tractor-trailer
college students get to sponge a little
Quoting CS lewis in a political discussion is not generally a good idea
they are still paying interest
and i make 250k per year should my taxes be raised?
considering that outside of literature he is considered to be a nutcase
Eyaw–when the ENTIRE society becomes “civil” my need to kill your ass will be over
36,000
Education is the most natural thing which happens in a life until someone brainwashes them to stop being educated..
yes, they should be raised
if you make $250k after deductions, yes you should
ajofi
thats like trying to justifyu vietnam
what if i pay 70k in fuel
so in otherwards, you dont care about the rights of the rich.
it’s deductible
pelosi is making mutha majority leader. lol
and 50k per year for the tractor
i said after deductions
adam-you want to break into my house at night?
and 10k per year for insurance
Lt Col Gordon R. Roberts received the Medal of Honor March 2, 1971 for actions during the battle for Hamburger Hill July 11 1969. Then Specialist 4th Class Roberts and his company were sent to relieve another company that was surrounded by NVA. His company came under attack and took cover. Fearing his company would take serious casualties SP4 Roberts charged and eliminated 3 of 4 enemy gun positions. Taking fire from a 4th he evacuated wounded from the unit he was to have relieved. He took a break in service, finished college, joined the National Guard and became an officer. In 1991 he went back on active duty, did a tour of duty in Iraq and is now stationed at Fort Bragg.
it’s deductible nimrod!
http://patriotguard.org/Portals/0/pictures/ltc%20roberts%20cmh.jpg
and then i pay 40k in taxes should i pay more?
invest in municipal bonds tax free, high returns noob
you’re not reading what i’m saying
noob=culture
with the dims in office. you will pay more thebarry
so you can just shut up now and go ignore someone else
40k in taxes out of 250k is ridicliously low
thats like 19 percent
dems
thebarry you should pay at least 90k
should be paying a third
you said after deductions, a small biz still pays taxes on everything
yea
Lupine,Now that is an amerrican hero, he should get 2 votes.
third
hell even a third is low hell koreans pay a third in taxes south koreans
yea
and theyre the most capitalist fucks out there
AFTER deductions. a small business gets to deduct the things you mentioned as expenses for their business.
yea-lets make it 75%
how much do you pay?
yea! ass rape them MORE!!!
lets make it 40 percent
people who make $250k of income pay around 40% on average in this country, all-told
and we’ll still be below australia
it’s called alternative minimum tax
I was going to say 45
how much do you pay in taxes ajofi? Eyaw_Nayr?
soutlaw–then add state taxes and SS and medicare
and that should be overhauled so it doesn’t apply until $250K ok maybe $200K
and the slide begins
I bet I pay more in taxes than you make.
ajofi, Eyaw_Nayr, how much do you pay in taxes?
I live in georgia, which is a state with low income tax and even worse programs for the poor
taxes pay for things, you guys know that right?
there is no need to raise taxes, the government collects plenty of revenue
what is the mcd after your nick. sherman tobacco?
things people do not want to pay for
so I pay about 30k in taxes
I pay a lot of stinking money in taxes.
do you guys want to directly give money to the poor?
taxes, 10%, if its good enough for god its good enough for th government.
no adam
lol-FT
the government needs to spend the money they are given, not spend more than they have and they have no right to take more from us
FT has religion!!!
unless we let them
youre running in circles
dont raise taxes: cut military spending
hehe
god doesn’t have to pay its employees FreeTrade
need) to spend more then what they are given
I have an idea, shoot anyone who suggests that.
how will they do that
this government is the largest employer in the country
raise taxes
just wondering, the last time two ppl i was talking to wanted to raise taxes, i asked them how much they paid…0…college kids
genius.. thats really smart cut funding for one of the few things the federal government is SUPPOSED to be doing
why should I give money to the poor. for making wrong choices
why do we need 450 bil for the military when our own kids cant get a decent education
how about cutting pork barrel spending and social entitlments
cut military spending is pretty much a death sentence for any politician
here’s a better q
throwing money at education doesn’t do any good either
why do you want to raise taxes?
uh how about ‘to provide for the national defense?’ i thought you had one of those wonderful college educations
Eyaw_Nayr the US federal government should spend exactly $0.00 on education in total.
so people who cant afford to feed their kids can get help
we need another clinton in office
we should be cutting back on spending across the board
hmm, so rudy’s setting up an exploratory committee
those people get government assistance already
so you would raise taxes to make more money?
yea.. if they can’t feed their kids.. not only should they NOT have not had them.. HAVE MORE!
I still don’t think he’s gonna run
Chelsey
yea, clone clintion and run him again. I’d vote
that includes bullshit military ventures in parts of the world we have no business being in
Politicians need nicer airplanes
fat cats, bigga fish thats all it is
why should I give money to the poor. for making wrong choices
1/3 of taxes go to pay the annual interest on the national debt
Eyaw_Nayr, what if raising taxes caused you to earn less money from taxes?
sigh
i don’t think rudy has a chance, he’s too liberal on some issues
ajofi cool can you enlighten us on the rest of the ‘given truths?’
mccain says he is running. but I not voting for that fake republican
ohhhhhhh have you heard.. dems want to creat anothen commitee, called ” the perment peace” hahahhahahah
hear that? dems want to fix the country!
we need more committees
oh christ!
Hillary will win the next election
those fags!
I would view it as philantropy as long as it wasn’t going to the military
hahaha Pelosi is behind a guy who told a FBI bribe sting guy that he was interested and to come talk to him later (About a bribe) Yep, She is going to restore confidence in government again.
Eyaw_Nayr, what if raising taxes caused you to earn less money from taxes?
printrock, how is he fake? he’s one of the few truly fiscally conservative republicans left, and he’s really conservative on social issues
kick them out ?!?! why did the democrats win the midterms?!
I would view it as philantropy as long as it wasn’t going to the military
rudy wants all guns to be registered.
you’re not listening
the poor black woman with 3 kids and no father needs it
what if you taxed 20% and made 1 trillion
ok
hillary is unelectable, seriously
you only need like, 50-60k a year to live comfortable in america its all greed after that
and raised taxes to 30%, and made 500billion ?
help her out Eyaw-make it tax deductible
We need to have people register guns, it will make it easier when we round them all up when we ban them
20% should get you almost $2 trillion
who the hell needs a mill a year after taxes
really? you been to the west coast lately?
john edwards or bill richardson of new mexico have a better chance than hillary
adam_mcd, where in america?
This is why I am voting for mcCain. Hes from a state with the most liberal gun laws in the USA you can walk down the street with one, and they have low violent crime.
yes
adam_mod I am SO glad you KNOW what it takes to live comfortably everywhere.. come move to Silicon Valley
not ny
i live in the west coast
the dims will start investing bush and cheney for everything they have ever done. like to many bathroom breaks. thats how nuts the dims are
is it my fault a woman has 3 kids with out a father?
thebarry well in those numbers I would hardly care, but I dont see the practicality of your statement
adam_mcd who the hell are you to say whats enough for everyone?
or Manhattan
why should I have to pay for them not having a father
of course you dont
hmm I need to work on this, BBIAB
columbo, hillary is not unelectable, and neither is anyone who will be the person with a D next to his/her name in 2008… but hillary in particular has a hell of an operation put together and actually knows how to run a good campaign, unlike gore and kerry
i live in washington state. a state that people think is the most taxed state, but it isnt
you don’t have a firm grasp of economics
well-Janet-it’s the thing to do you know
and we high minimum wage, state assistance for alot of colleges
And Arizona, state of McCain, also voted against a gay marriage ban in the state.
Carious, hogwash
we reduced taxes under bush, and tax revenue is up
The Govt should take kids away from single mothers and give them to rich gay couples
I live on the west coast but im normal. not a dim
we’re making more money with lower taxes
she can keep her legs closed
she will mobilize every redneck in the south to sober up and vote against her
bc the economy is doing better
Hilary’s electability is directly related to the Repub nominee, imo - and so far things don’t look good
bc taxes are lower
we need to assist every poor slut in America
what happens if you tax 100%?
heh
Supply-side economics is not an infinitley accessable road then we are socialist
then your ‘experience’ on what it takes to live places is germane to that area.. but its NOT true universally
what happens if you spend more than you tax? you go bankrupt
sorry you initially missed the sarcasm J
reps will never put hillary into the white house
Women need to learn to take a beating and let their man cheat, we wouldn’t have so many single mothers uWomen need to learn to take a beating and let their man cheat, we wouldn’t have so many single mothers/u
no I got it
k
columbo, yeah, and for everyone that hates her, there’s a person that loves her, so it cancels out - but if you’ve seen her in upstate new york, for example, which isn’t exactly friendly democratic territory, she’s managed to genuinely change peoples minds about her - that’s worth noting
wow you answered correctly, nice
our government doesn’t go bankrupt if you haven’t noticed
100% tax = communism
fiat dollar
thebarry yes
thebarry, why not tax at 120% for everything over $100k ?
thebarry and
fiat economy
because it borrows against itself
it’s bankrupt, no one has admitted it yet
wealth tax is the most evil socialist tax
and what happens if you continue to raise taxes (like prices on stuff) say everyone wants a sony playstation 3 at 750 for a bundle how many will buy it for 10,000 a bundle?
if I wanted socialism I would move to france!
and because of the private banks, the interest is piling
you can even lose money and still pay a wealth tax
its not a linear curve
I do NOT want the goverment in MY pocket! it is MY money!
flat tax and term limits
WITH the tax cuts we brought in more real dollars last year than at any time in the past
no it isnt
ajofi, will you stop pming insults to me?
well actually it’s not your money
yes it is
it’s legal theft
I worked for it
or do i need to ignore you?
bun-bun shame you spent even more.
youre living in the country where you worked
you live in the country you benefit from it you get to pay for it
so what
if you don’t you go to jail
that country provided you with schooling, police, hell even land
who do you propose as her running mate? biden? obama? bill? (omg bill)
liona helmsly
with the dims in office. I will just have to hold my nose. cause everything they will touch will stink
legal theft?
the point is, if you want to make more money from taxes right now
you owe that country something
we did not have taxes when this country was founded we should not have them now
sure we did
yea and it sucked
you could argue either lowering taxes or raising them
we just didn’t have an income tax
articles of confederation?
but we still had taxes
didnt have the power to tax, nationally
and the wheel goes round and round
and it failed
bc the last time we lowered taxes, revenue went up
columbo, I don’t necessarily support her at all, I’m just saying, anyone who says she’s unelectable is kidding themselves, and lots of republicans say that too
I do not mind paying a state tax
corporate profits went up, yes
I do not want federal taxes
but did wages go up? no
keep out of my pockets
ajofi my friend
uh yes
hell thats the problem now:
where do you expect the federal government to get the money it spends? bwhere do you expect the federal government to get the money it spends?/b
here in texas we have no income tax at all
corporate profits are going up, wages are not yea we have no income tax here also
Too bad America wasn’t still an English Colony, I wouldn’t mind a high tea tax
which is stupid
income taxes are inefficient
hillary will never be elected pres. unless there is massive voter fraud
why not get rid of all taxes and go back to wild west
wow amazing.. i better double check .. because my wages and basically everyone i know are going up
just use a sales tax
ajofi.. each state shoudl pay their senator and congress person
or property tax so much less paperwork
lets just eliminate the goverment
and give money for the military, thats IT
actually the poor pay more of a percentage with a sales tax
We can just raise tea taxes
nothing elsde
and let people do whatever the hell they want
pay more of a percentage of their income***
Eyaw right
I was being scarcastic
they pay the same percentage
everybody would take care of their business
no they dont
just shut down the corporations
thats stupid
its just a higher percent of their total income
yes thats what i said
the poor get an earned income credit
because people sometimes think things are their busniess when they really arent
thats a regressive tax system
oh so you say that when i pay 8 1/4 that they charge the poor more? oh so you say that when i pay 8 1/4 that they charge the poor more?
which is blatant wealth redistribution ala communism
that isn’t going to happen and you know it
pay more of a percentage of their income***
that doesnt mean they pay a ‘higher’ percentage over all
correct Lupine
Eyaw well those thigns are somebody else’s business and those people will take care of them perfectly
its regressive, nonetheless
the ‘poor’ effectively pay no federal tax
of course I know it.. but that does not mean you have to allow them to keep taking
no, it is a flat rate.
no it isnt lupine a sales tax? its regressive
the american people can say enough is enough
military plus the interest on the national debt is 1/2 the annual federal budget
my opinion of her is just that; an opinion… but i do know a good number of people who dislike her for one reason or another. many many men are not ready for such a powerful women in a position of authority. misogyny is alive and well in america today
yes it is. it is x% for everyone in the same area.
It’s best if we lower the minimum wage and get more people getting healthcare, food stamps and public housing and have the middle class pay for it
so at best federal taxes can be reduced by 1/2
adam_mcd but you are ignorant of what is a flat-fat and what a flat-rate, regressive, etc tax rate is
maybe more
that means getting rid of social security and medicare and that’s never going to happen either
no its not, its flat.. its only regressive if you compare to total income but if you also compare the differentiation in SPENDING at the two levels its pretty damn flat
a sales tax is regressive because the poor pay a higher percentage of their income compared to the rich
wrong flat out wrong
omg
*lol* ignorant of basic economic terms eh?
when the dims cut off financing the iraq war. it will be the end of them
SS.. is something I will never see
are you guys that ignorant
it’s a consumption tax! their income is irrelevant!
Janet-thank you for paying for mine
yes we ALL are that ignorant and YOU are the only one with truth
We could kill the poor, and give their jobs to mexicans
I should not have to pay it.. I have taken care of my retirement
that will not happen. the dems are not that different from your precious republicans
adam is a dim..lol
and what people earn isn’t your business
hahahaha
ya MIGHT take a clue and check your facts
www.google.com look up regressive and sales tax educate oneself
social security isn’t just about your security
if you make $100/year and I make $250k/year. And we both buy a candybar at $1 with 5% sales tax.. you pay $0.05 in sales tax.. I pay $0.05 in sales tax. i.e. equal
Only mexicans should make less then 50K a year
i know! BUT
you pay it so society as a whole is secure
I looked up regressive, and I got a home page for adam_mcd
ajofi.. I do not care about others security
well you do, you just don’t realize it
i use more of my income to pay that tax
they can take care of themselves
he now wnats to ONLY look at the ONE item and your total incomes watch
you pay an equal tax RATE. which means flat tax rate.
thus it is regressive
only wotgorill should make less than 50k per year
make it illegal for Americans to work low paying jobs would help
yes but someone earning 250k a year typically spends most of that.. and THUS its the same percentage
at the time social security was invented manycouldn’t which his why it came to be in the first place
any thoughts on the freeper who got caught sending fake anthrax to people?
no a flat rate is an income tax. percentage out of income
No, a regressive tax rate would be those making who are poor pay 10% sales tax.. and rich folk pay 5% sales tax
sales tax is a regressive tax by definition
5% through out. no sales tax
that’s why i’m here! i’m looking for more freepers
lupine thats not what im saying
no a flat rate is where you say 8.5 percent regardless just like a sales tax
Lupine, obviously you should pay 2,000 times that 5%
are you even listening to what im saying
haha. good name columbo
name a modern democracy that doesn’t have something like social security
yes are you listening to what at least 5 people have told you already?
sales tax is a tax forced on consumers
you can piss your panties all you want.. but we wont believe your claims that it smells good.
the rich do not spend 25% of their income on sales tax like the poor do
Lupine-it’s based on income
so what does that mean
what you’re talking about just isn’t possible
that the rich should spend more to make it a flat rate so you guys can be right?
uh the poor dont either
a fool and his money are soon parted…
reform it, yeah it needs that but getting rid of it entirely? not gonna happen
so a society helping its people is a bad thing+
unless you know a state where sales tax is 25%
please explain ?
total income you douche bag
the tax RATE is not different for differeing income levels in a flat-tax-rate.
get raged
and the rich DO spend more than that in total tax burden
douchebag=culture?
ok follow me on this one
The poor do not spend 25% of thier income on sales tax when sales tax is rarely over 8.5% and many itens are excluded from sales tax specifically for the poor.
cool now you are calling names of people being polite to you?
adam-you want culture??
no helping people is bad
Now dont be stupid.
wow adam is insulting people. typical dim
nah im just gonna put you on ignore
Carious, the guy has been like that since he popped in
I HAVE AN IDEA KILL ALL THE NIGGERS WHOS FATHERS LEFT THEM AND THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING SO THEY ARENT A BURDEN ON THE WHITE FOLK ANYMORE
Bigoted or foul Language w can be wrong, and ignorant here but dont be stupid.
I know Bill
eyaw must be slummy
Another democrat caught in my snare
I’m surprised he’s lasted this long
but it is true-by definition only, a sales tax is regressive
eyaw hasn’t figured it out yet
well not being an op i can /ignore people
what about the guy who said only mexicans should make less than 50k? that’s pretty bigoted
much more peaceful already
im poor. i spend about 25% of my income on a sales tax for goods i need. ok now here somebody who is rich who only pays about 10% of their income on sales tax because even tho he buys more than me, and supplies more tax revenue, he doesnt spend as much in taxes as poor me
You know.. expensive cars, toys typically have the highest sales tax on them.. not many poor buy those.
THAT is a regressive tax
hahahaha.. where the FUCK are you living that you pay a 25% sales tax?
because it isnt equal amount
Colu,mbo, I know who he is and he wasnt serious.
NO 25% OF MY TOTAL INCOM,E
lol
My wife is hispanic black.
feel the rage?? sweet combo FT
it works out in the end to where i spend 25% of total income on sales tax
complaining about the government isnt undemocratic
how do you pay 25% of your total income on sales tax?
adam_mcd, you don’t pay 25% in sales tax.
someone else’s wages are not your concern
carious if you mean adam actually no… ignore’ance is bliss
when there is, say a 8.9% sales tax
adam_mcd pass the blunt, m’kay?
True bigots will not be allowed the luxury of a joke.
excellent
if you make $100 and you’ve paid $25 in sales tax, then you’ve spent more than you make
even if you are buying all Lexus’s.. you aint paying 25% sales tax
the poorest 15% pay 25% of their income in sales tax here in washington state
because there is no other way to spend that much in sales tax
must be net-not gross
i blame republicans for the big taxes
are they all racking up debt?
adam_mcd, nonsense
yea.. he’s lying out his blow hole.. and is too ignorant to relaize his lie isn’t believable.
they are in power
adam must be off his meds
poor people spend a very high percentage of their money on food which has no sale tax on it.
did they do anything? no
adam_mcd sorry, your lies are not believable.
Nobody in america spends 25% of their income on sales tax, you cant possibly do it, you would need a minimum sales tax of 25% somewhere
what did they do?
well instead of saying he’s lying ask him to explain
go gay
we did 
wrong. I lived in seattle. the poor don’t pay taxes
well ask again
republicans are a diaspointment
a pack of cigarettes is over 7 bux in new york city…it can be done!
and Florida has no state income tax
