10.31.07

So if I hold up a group of people in a store and kill a few and threaten to kill the rest of them a good bargin

Posted in Politics at 8:51 pm by Michael Johnson

because they weren’t there

because they were there first http://infosthetics.com/archives/2006/09/middle_east_history.html

that’s retarded

watch ajofi you’re retarded learn your history

they violates something called property rights

ad homms typical

yeah it was

oh no, they were there first

http://infosthetics.com/archives/2006/09/middle_east_history.html

i know this but they left

you didn’t watch that did you

to tough shit they lose

they never left

Tom Segev is one of Israel’s most notable historians and journalists–one of the few to strive for any sense of objectivity in his writings–so a new book by him is always worth waiting for. One Palestine, Complete is a detailed account of Palestine under British rule from 1917 to 1948, the critical period in the modern history of the region that led up to the creation of the state of Israel.

90% of them left

The jews have the best claim, right now, because you have entire generations born in Isreal now. Nothing to do with thousands of years ago.

they don’t get to come back unless they want to PAY fair market value for the land

so leaving means they lose claim to it?

yes

it was abandoned

what did arabs pay for that land? it was not abandoned

Segev begins by carefully detailing Britain’s well-known inconsistencies in dealing with both the Jews and the Arabs–to both of whom it had appeared to promise, if not the world, at least the country after independence was granted–and goes on to make a convincing case that because Palestine fell into the category of an emotional rather than self-interested colonial possession, the Brits hoped the situation would unwind to every

you don’t pay for abandoned land works the same here in America

it was not abandoned

unwind to everyones advantages

well it was

you know nothing of your history

actually, in America you do pay for abandoned land

no it wasnt what happened in 70 AD ajofi

well it was and you’re the only one saying otherwise

It was taken, basically, by military force.

it was not, and you are showing your ignorance

fordnut was there to witness the events of 70AD

not so! ajofi here said it was abandoned!

diaspora

It was, after the Jewish population fled.

e-Hernick: read your history sir, particularly Roman and Greek and Persian they did not flee, they were forcefully removed

However, during that period of time, conquest was certainly a legitimate method to gain territory.

only religious nuts suggest Jews have a claim to Israel most of them left

you are ignorant they did not the Romans destroyed the land and disperesed them knocked down the temple

they left for greener pastures

Hmmm. I’m not quite a religious nut, myself

people alive today who have PROPERTY rights because they actually are ALIVE and live on the land have claim to the land

The British entered Palestine to defeat the Turks; they stayed there to keep it from the French; then they gave it to the Zionists because they loved ‘the Jews’ even as they loathed them, at once admired and despised them, and above all feared them. They were not guided by strategic considerations, and there was no orderly decision-making process,” claims Segev in revealing the thrust of his argument that the contemporary problem Jews over the issue of a promised homeland were exacerbated by the interventions of the British empire between the two world wars.

going in and STEALING from people who actually LIVE on land is a major violation of property rights

you have no answer ajofi other than ignorance

god said they could have it tho

right

hahaa

you think the history of the region started 100 years ago lol

god said they could have it

They did have it for 1500 years.

I am convinced to not read these two books on the history is to miss a view of the history which is invaluble to understanding any truth of the history.

did they

so fucking what

from 1500 BC to 70 AD they did

it’s irrelevant

no it isnt

they were GONE

why are you stopping at 100 years they were not gone the fact you are now admitting they were there

did he say they got to keep it forever or was it a temporary lease?

there was NO nation of Israel in 1895

means you lose your arab claim

Judge Judy could settle this

and it was in the late 1800’s that Jewish immigration started

you still dont claim there is an arab nation now

that’s why i go to 100 years

you are contradicting yourself

And I wont take anyone seriously who doesnt read these two books, especially if they depart 180 degrees from the very well researched assertions of this author

that’s when the land theft started in small numbers

so your real problem is with jews

then the violence increased

he hasnt contradicted himself

yes he has

and then in 1948 we get the big war and the fake establishment of Israel

ah here it is, he’s calling you an anti-semite

and this whole fucking mess

And ironically or not, both supporters of Israel and the Arabs seem afraid of the truth

is your problem with jewishness or land theft?

Israel should have been created in Germany

he’s contradicted himself many times

which is that neither side is completely right

the Germans fucked the Jews over, they should pay

Where did the name Israel come from

the Arabs didn’t do a goddamn thing to the Jews in all of history

Why? Isn’t the German land the property of the Germans?

another lie

Jacob was the guys name first

and yet it’s Palestinians Arabs that got fucked in the ass by Zionists

Ajofi what ?

Jacob == Israel

look up your history, look up the word ‘Ismaelites’

have any of you taken a logic course, or familiar with it?

look up the history of the crescent in the middle east

Ajofi in the 1920s there was a horrible and brutal butchering of jews in palestine who were assembled peacefully by arabs

So, children of israel == decendents of jacob

my problem is with land theft

what do you mean they never did anything to the jews ?

its no point arguing with people who cant even get their dates or history right

See this is what I mean

that’s what i figured

he’s ignorant

half of you believe the israelis never did any wrong

theyve done lots wrong two wrongs dont make a right

the other half of you believe the jews never did any wrong, stop being stupid and GET EDUCATED

Publius didnt even think there there was such a thing as zionist terrorism

ALL OF YOUS

lol

as they would say in NY

The Arabs didn’t screw the Jews. It was the Germans. That’s what I’m saying.

Half believe Israel never did any wrong, the other half believes the Jews never did any wrong?

FreeTimer puts the smack down!

Td, well Publius is a person who I believe is willing to educate himself

The Grand Mufti did work with Hitler…

admittedly it’s a bit off balance

I htink everyone here should read the 2 books I listed and then talk about this subject again

Arabs didn’t start picking fights with Jews (I prefer to say Zionists because Jews around the world do not universal agree with Zionism or support modern day Israel’s existence) until the occupation started.

hitler was a personal hero of yasser arafat

Thank God the Arabs have always been peaceful. And the “Palestinians.”

“jewish extermination”

And now Arabs murder Jews, although with less efficiency and in fewer numbers than Israelis murder Arabs.

because almost everyone here will be shown to have some major piece of it so misconstrued as to be only will full ignorance of intentional deciet

Well, Arabic nomads were always sorta cutthroat

lol

both sides did EVIL things and read about it and learn about it then you can realize they have been like all peoples in history

ajofi and td are reading the same books

yep

they have identical arguments

what books?

both of which are seriously flawed it was a figure of speech

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/200601019_after_pats_birthday/

The Irgun did lotsa fun things with explosives for instance

Fordnut, and the heads of state of israel didnt want holocaust jews in Israel because they were of no use See

because you believe in fairy tales

You same something I say something Someone says something about the jews

which fairy tales?

The Arabs just murdered a lotta people

it sounds like they’re getting their information from ahmadenijad

I will say something ab out the arabs both sides did unconscionable things unconscionable

yes disembowelments, etc nasty stuff

they both murdered men women and children burned them

yep

vivisection

Fuck it, they both murdered a lot of people.. Im out of here

both sides

believe all the BULLSHIT you want.

educate us on the jewish question sometime

Read the books I said Bye

The Jewish question. Such a nice phrase.

night

what is not bullshit is that Palestinian arabs will back down no further

The Grand Mufti of Palestine Supportted Hitler God Damn it thats enough Jewish Extermination you needed to support taking both of them down at that time !

they want peace but will not accept recognition of Israel

it demands a solution i suppose?

jhicks, it’s always demanded some solution that turned on genocide.

This all sounds familiar

Israel is illegal in their view. They will compromise on a ceasefire, two-state solution. But no recognition.

are you an arab ajofi?

Israel can shit can peace by demanding recognition. i am not.

does it matter?

Actually i’m about 1/16th jewish

i dunno does it

oops 1/6th sorry

which part?

which fairy tales were you referring to td

on mother’s side

i mean, legs, arms, etc

lol

oh that would be my big fat mouth

hahaha

and my right middle finger

I think there are entirely too many taboos when discussing Israel, esp within out government er, our “oops, we might pith somebody off!”

Yes, Israel can have peace… that is, Arabs working for its annihilation and eventually attempting it… while Israel ceases to oppose the annihilation. Peace. A two-state solution until Arabs can kill off the Jews.

Why do they want to kill them?

jhicks you head the John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt’s essay ‘The Israel Lobby’. read

yes

watch the videos of that on youtube excellent presentation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZxgykaYKNk

Ah, not anti-Semites. But advocates of anti-Semitic propaganda.

theres like 9 parts

yeah and the Israeli’s i’ve visited with all say the same smack shit “keep sending the money so we can get those goddamn arabs off our land”

There are things Israel could do to help the situation

so you know what? fuck them both

Sharon’s settlement expansions didn’t help peace

no more money for Israel they can apply for statehood if they want otherwise, stop taking our money Israel’s problems are not our problems

Sharon was a VERY poor choice for Israel. I’d rather have seen Netanyahu

oh the worst thing for everyone, especially in the middle east was Sharon+Arafat+Bush

what anti-semetic propaganda?

Arafat for sure

oh got Netenyahu is at least as much of a prick as Sharon

Mearsheimer and Walt

they arent anti-semites

Sharon was a blatant murderer, but Netanyahu is more right wing than Sharon

I don’t think he would have been such an expansionist, maybe wrong

Yeah, they are.

how so?

I disagree but ok

And YouTube seems to be full of anti-Semitic propaganda.

Uhm

it’s a propoganda ploy, typical of those who support Israel no matter what it does, to smear people as anti-semitic

It’s got much more stuff that isn’t

Walt and Mearsheimer predicted they would be smeared by such people and they were but it’s blatant smearing totally transparent

What did they say that was inaccurate? aside from ideology what facts were incorrect?

It’s a propaganda ploy, typical of anti-semites, to portray their anti-Semitism as just opposition to Israeli policy.

yeah no one who bitches about the fuckin Germans gets labeled a racist

If it’s anti-semitic it should be easy to discredit academically is it? I thought it was more anti-Government

No *ONLY* people who criticize Israeli state policy without even saying anythingn about the Jews instantly are smeared as anti-semitic it’s complete b.s.

I don’t blame Israel for seeking influence peddling If I were Israel I’d do it

b’nai brith is a shithole of an organization because of it cut them off they’re worse than the military industrial complex

ajofi and td

If there is any fault to assign it’s to our elected ‘public servants’

there are 10s of thousands of archaelogical digs verifying 1500 years of jewish history in israel

great?

There were always Jews there

there is NO QUESTION jews inhabited that land

There used to be many in Iraq

LONG before arabs ever showed up

yeah, because if they refuse to submit to subsidizing the socialist state of Israel, they will be smeared as anti-semites!

oh well, israel and every other country receiving foreign welfare should be cut off esp egypt

yeah no one questions that jews inhabited (past tense) that land the point is they were there in 1890’s someone else owned the land

why are you stopping at 1890

european jews went there then

you still havent given an answer

They bought most of the land they got in the 1890’s.

and they did buy it indeed

From Arab landowners.

that is a FACT

they bought all of the land in the 1890’s - 1920’s

because that’s when the colonization started - i’ve said it 10 times you’re just too dense to comprehend what i keep saying prove the fact

ajofi keep ignoring my question prove? lol its a simple google search away

The Hadassah funded land purchases I think

the foremost expert on the subject demonstrated that they could not possibly have paid for it it’s a totally uncompelling argument

you better reforumulate your own argument you think history began in 1890

But then there’s that whole Balfour thingy

no i just don’t give rat’s ass about religion

That’s when the JWC formed, wasn’t it?

or religous claims to land

it has nothing to do with religion NOTHING this is archaelogical evidence

because i think religion is a stupid concept

historical evidence great

they weren’t THeRE in 1895

this is non-Jewish non-Christian evidence THEYVE been there for 3500 eyars

uhm

there WERE there for 3500 years

first came the jews then the christians then somewhere or anywhere around there, the muslims

even British census data shows that there were few Jews in present day Israel, in the 1890’s

but way before the jews were these egyptians and all those middle eastern elamite tribes

a few?

whatever the hell you call em

try thousands

everyone else who got there since then is an immigrant it’s not their land

those egyptians were not arabs

it was theirs, they were kicked out or left

somewhere in there’s the chinaman

there are no property rights for the dead

you are setting arbitrary dates

the living get to keep their land

to fit your politics the arabs are living on Jewish land

saturday night #politics

no jews had any immigration desires for the land! no jews were claiming the land at all! not until the late 1800’s

lol so wrong

not until Herzel invented Zionism

on so many levels

it was an INVENTION of Europeans

dude did you read anything about what I said

Herzel was a European. He wasn’t even a semite!

nice topic… dump aarp and go with nascon

about the proof of 1500 years of Jewish history from 1500-70 AD

he had NO claim to that land

archaelogical proof

and most of the people there even today, most of whom are Europeans have no claim to it either.

not to mention Roman, Greek, and Persian documented proof?

hi all

you’re the dense one ajofi you have no rebuttal to that

no rebuttal is required

i haven’t disputed

to deny Jews lived there for 1500 year s

so fucking what? i never said they didn’t

oh?

not once

thats your claim for arabs owning it! they lived there!

you’re now a liar

so the same claim stand for Jews!

0 AM): to deny Jews lived liar fordnut is a LIAR

td you son of a bitch

liar

in pm

They were always there, maybe not a lot of them, but they were always there

i said that

what!

and they say the quality of national debate has declined!

late 1800’s maybe 10% were jews according to British census data

So, they were there

they never left entirely, but a very small minority were there

wasspDaimlerchryslernut!

i didnt lie ajofi

yes but then in the late 1800’s there was a huge immigration movement started by Herzel and his Zionism.

CryHavoc lol

fordnut is a troublemaker!

hey cry

0 AM): to deny Jews lived

hey duffles

that is a lie

no it isnt

you did lie, you said i denied Jews lived there. that is a lie.

fordnut = (caremake here)nut

so what’s your point?

that fordnut lied that’s my point

who cares

i did not lie

you did

i did not

0 AM): to deny Jews lived

fords break down..they do not lie

that’s a lie liar

you did

this is not #fordlnutlied, this is #politics

i did not

anybody here see The Departed? i couldnt care less, just a yes or no would do.

haha

No he didn’t, you didn’t understand him.

you wrote it

no

fix or repair daily lol

Because you are a boob.

i never denied jews lived there

did anyone see The Prestige?

Alladin-: that’s cool

is op in #fordnutlied ph33r m3!!!!

i EXPLICTLY said numerous times and Freetrade AGREED with me that they were there in the late 1890’s

http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/research/working_papers/dershowitzreply.pdf — one academic refutation of Walt and Mearsheimer

grrr

and then YOU said I denied jews were there. that’s a lie.

well lots of channel action I see

Dershowitz is absolutely incredible when it comes to anything Jewish.

dershowitz

Naa, it’s a misunderstanding

US-Male, burp….

heh

jhicks, grrr walt and mearsheimer

who is credible when it comes to these things? Al-Jazeera?

he’s accused of wholesale plagiarism of his book “The Case For Israel”

Do names constitute a counterargument, jhicks?

dershowitz is on cnn alot

And he hasn’t defended the claim.

and?

hey hicks

just an observation

dershowitz is a crackpot

Edward Said is accused for wholesale lying in his “auto-biograpical” works

howdee

dershowitz is , uhhh… strange…

he’s annoying

Walt and Mearsheimer are anti-Semitic crackpots

so who is credible?\

Alladin, accused? That’s simply proven.

alcu-ite ite ite ite…

Normal Finkelstein oops Norman

Jessica Alba is edible…..does that count

who’s that

http://infosthetics.com/archives/2006/09/middle_east_history.html

nope

well go find out do i have to do everyone’s homework?

yeah

darn….well I will consume her ayways

www.normanfinkelstein.com

Israel was created in the land originally called Palestine

you don’t have to do anything.. you don’t even have to be nice

that is what you said

you’re too old for her

that is untrue

shes legal….

and so it was the Brits called it Palestine

she prob would squeak though

Finkelstein is a far-left wing crackpot conspiracy theorist who’s pretty much a Jewish anti-Semite

I though it was Canaan

So did the League of nations

it was

milk, honey, etc etc

But CHOMSKY likes him!

which is why I made the statement

is CAIR credible?

Called “it” Palestine? Called what Palestine?

that means he’s a ’self-hating jew’

Not a country. Not a nation.

DStewart, omg, another loon…. L00N!

An administrative territory.

yeah that’s what lunatic fringe Zionists like b’nai brith do, is they go out and call children survivors of consentration camps who don’t agree with Israeli state policies “self hating Jews” and all sorts of rubbish byeah that’s what lunatic fringe Zionists like b’nai brith do, is they go out and call children survivors of consentration camps who don’t agree with Israeli state policies “self hating Jews” and all sorts of rubbish/b because of course only *IN ISRAEL* can you criticize

http://my.netscape.com/corewidgets/news/story.psp?cat=50900&id=2006102008580002087450

and it was in the late 1800’s that Jewish immigration started

if you are in America, Jewish organizations will smear you

that’s why i go to 100 years

more lies

The British should have to pay our part dammit

nope it’s true freetrade agree

refutation = smear

lol

oooh The Jews after after ajofi *are after

actually freetrade said it first fool

“if she cheat on me, i will crush her…”

US-Male: yeah, want some popcorn?

poor smeared Finkelstein

boring conversation talking to Zionists

make your own arguments, fuckbag

probably hiding somehwere in fear that Bnai Brith will cut his head off

why are people always talking in this channel?

freaky Israeli Zionists are much better debaters

did i say that?

stop using FreeTrade’s name to defend your idiocy

ajofi, What are your crimes?! :o

oops wrong channel

would you call yourself liberal ?

The Joooooz are after ajofi wheee

yeah

do you support the Palestinian gov’t?

lol

he’s anti-kike…

Racist or foul Language or Spam

a liberal 1/6th Jew who obviously hates 1/6th of himself

haw

duffsterr!

jews are technically mixed race huh? mixed race middle eastern asian people?

wow! sorry :o

duffsterr is a troub;emaker too

do you support the Palestinian gov’t?

You are on our list!

hahaha thank youuuu…

support in what way?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/04/AR2006040401282.html

jhicks give up some popcorn mang

support them over Israel let’s say

nope

US-Male: cheddar sprinkles

i think they both suck

what about Hezoblllah? Hezbollah

they suck but so does Israel

www.boratmovie.com

ok so everybody sucks equally? or is there some difference?

Only one of them sucks in a way that involves a civilized state that isn’t committed to genocide. That’s Israel.

I don’t have a problem with Israel. I’ve got a big problem with aid to Israel

a 1/16th Jew ? shit that’s like me calling myself and “Indian” *an

well from a big picture, they all suck pretty much about the same overall - a little more in some areas than others, but those are just details

jhicks, libertarian lover :P

and yeah the aid to Israel is b.s. pull the plug on aid to Israel and to Palestine all of it

the aid to any country is BS not just Israel

renee russo agrees

no military weapons to Israel either

Suck in the same way? Palestinians insist on ethnic cleansing… Israel doesn’t.

Egypt

jhicks, i agree… esp today…

Egypt

Egypt gets BIG bucks

we just fucking sold a bunch of shit to Jordan! hahaha!

Palestinians wage a war of terrorism… Israel doesn’t.

“sold”

big ass bombs and jets

on credit that will be forgiven

now if only Jordan had people who knew how to fly them

it’s like, what kind of war is Jordon thinking they might have in the next 10 years?

because us taxpayers are suckers

nice… was that on a REMAX for sale sign… SOLD… ?

who are Jordan’s enemies exactly?

Israel will recognize a Palestinian state… Palestinians won’t recognize an Israeli state.

then you risk losing control of those countries !

DStewart, amen

fuck em It’s not our business to control countries

is the talapia the fish used to symbolize christ?

Our business is USA no

yeah you know what, if it means the end to kids getting blown up in school buses, i think it’s a bargain for Israel to say “ohh so the arabs won’t recognize us, big deal”

perch

then they will be terrorist training ground for people to come here and do 9/11 style attacks !

jhicks do you know what the talapia symblizes?

ROnald Reagan was a great man. Sigh….

bring em on

The necessity is for theh Palestinians to push Israel into the sea…. so that the Palestinians can then fight genocidal civil wars within Palestine.

o

but you know what, Israel wants legitimacy. it feels it’s not legitimate until the Arabs grant it. stupid. bbut you know what, Israel wants legitimacy. it feels it’s not legitimate until the Arabs grant it. stupid./b

ok so tell me how should Israel end the problem of kids getting blown up in school buses

US-Male: Ronald ‘Raygun’

US-Male lo

I remember when people called him Ronnie Raygun

stop stealing land would be a good start

I still do

US-Male, hey…. yure a great american… lol

which land? specifically

I love how people feel that if you cave to irrational people, those same irrational people will [play nice] ;p

all of the west bank

Alladin-: illegal settlements are a big problem

that’s it?

Alladin-: That was Sharon’s schtick

and all of jerusalem which should go to the UN under the original partition plan

It was bad for Israel

how can you bring em them on when you have no allies ?

ok anything else?

Stealing the west bank? Hell, if I were attacked via the west bank, I would think taking it was rational.

piss on allies

jerusalem was not to be held by either isreal or palestine

so basically Israel is using Emminent Domain to obtain land?

let’s clone Reagan for 2008

israel

With friends like our allies who needs enemies?

oh wait he’d have to be 35

other than their capital and West Bank what else should Israel give up?

tell that to Spain !

and Israel should give up the demand for recognition/legitimacy by Palestinians because they won’t give it, not for another generation or two

The organizations that you say would stop blowing up civilians say they will not do so, and claim the right to do so until Israel is eliminated.

let’s clone Reagan for 2044

No matter what Israel does.

yeah, vote for cloning in Missouri

Israel needs to permit travel within Palestinian towns again between rather

they can claim it all they want

ok and if they give up all these things Palestinians will stop blowing up Israeli buses?

Because over there they want to coexist peacefully with jews, it’s not about complete destruction at all!

the point is that they can’t act on it it’s a fine line just like China and Taiwan

I’m also curious about this claim that blowing up civilians is an appropriate, moral, and rational response to settlements.

admittedly it’s not ideal

Clone Reagan for 2044 ! my new campaign

lol

ajofi, they can’t act on it? The fuck they can’t.

US-Male, clone Barry

but if it stops the violence, even under the threat of a massive war any day, i think it’s a good compromise

I am forward-thinking

US-Male, clone Barry Goldwater

And you know that they do every day.

eventually, the old fucks will die

Terrorism is what happens when angry people get explosives

duffsterr yeah and we can run the two clones agasint each other

and the new fucks will be raised in the image of the old fucks

and all the kids who are maimed with dead friends will die

see who’s better

1964, he lost by 1 million votes, thanks to Johnsons dirty nuke commercials… :|

That is such a great compromise, give me what I want, and I will stop killing your civilians

Yes… and the kids who are now being raised to believe that they have a duty to kill the Jews will take over.

Sounds fair to me!

US-Male, lol, The Terminator Clones! lol

There’s a real comfort.

and in 50 years or 80 years, maybe we’ll finally get a generation of palestinians who will say, yeah you fucked us but we’ll give recognition if you apologize for stealing our grandfathers olive trees

never

and maybe some jewish kids will say, yeah our grandfathers did that

never happen

duffsterr we can clone Ahhnold and he will be a natural born citizen

wait, so if Israel gives up its capital and holiest site to Israel-hating UN, relocates hundreds of thousands of Jews, and gives up on any recognition from Palestinians.. that will stop suicide bombings?

US-Male hahahahhaha

and then in 125 years they decide to just become one happy family - Israel-Palestine

except he’s a weenie on politics

ahahaha lololol

one state and one monetary system haha!

Alladin-: It wasn’t supposed to take Jerusalem though

so fucking impossible

ajofi, are you MAD?!

So, if I hold up a group of people in a store, and kill a few, and threaten to kill the rest of them, a good bargin to the police would be that if they give me my million dollars and plane ticket out of there, that I won’t kill anymore hostiges? God bless compromise!

ajofi, do you have a job?!

uh huh

DKLassify, yeahhhhh hahahaha yeah exactly…. hahah

and when are the palestinians going to apologize for killing innocent Israelis, Americans, Europeans, etc.??

It’s situational pacifism.

DStewart, it is MADness……..

when it comes to international politics yes

when are the palestinians going to apologize for any of the numerous fucked up things they do, which you in yuour stupid blindness can’t even distinguish from Israel’s much more mild and justified actions?

lol

because it’s easy to kill one guy holding people hostage and it’s not a big loss if you fuck up and a few die

Which is why liberals such as yourself make lousy foriegn policy

but it’s a big loss to have an entire economy fucked up on both sides of the border and people dying left and right

You be pacifist. I don’t have to be. And if you decide not to be pacifist, let’s compromise: You give me what I want, I reserve the right to return and kill you later, and we’ll note that once you do that, I’ll stop attacking you for now, with the promise that I will be back to attack you later.

ajofi, yure arguing for the SOUTH! of 1863…….. yure mentality is of that monster……..

well actually the liberals came up with Oslo which fucked the Arabs worse than any idea

US foreign policy is _EXTREMELY_ liberal

ajofi is a monster

ajofi :yea and letting terrorists run countries and get everything they want at the point of the gun does not lead to fucked up economy and people dying??? are you fucking stupid?

yes, he is

there was more land theft in the years of ehud barak than any other prime minister.

Indeed we are pacifists enough already, we don’t need to go even further down that road

Things were going pretty good before the intifada?

he sounds like the old KKK so pissed off at the Jews…….

yeah well guess what Palestinians voted for those terrorists.

Alladin-: thats how the jews got israel

What set off the intifada?

it’s the legitimate government of Palestine.

Could it have been Sharon?

yea so when are they going to apologize for that?

hmm

It’s not a legitimate government; and there is no Palestine.

bullshit

We treated the Soviet Union with more respect than we treat Palestinians. We’re fucking racists.

Business was ROARING in Israel

I had a bad case of intifada once in Mexico

No non-consensual body is a legitimate government.

Tourism was safe

Palestinians did JACK SHIT to earn any respect

And Sharon stirrrred it all up With provocations

We’re fucking racists.

We don’t give respect to people who plant bombs on school busses

I’m American.

in fact they have done nothing but their damnest to ensure that they deserve no respect at all from anyone reasonable in this world

Sorry

And Americans tacitly approve of our policy.

ajofi, for heavens sakes, they had terrorist leader running it….!!!!! the boob yasser arrafat

And our policy is racist. Yeah and Israel had a terrorist running it also. Big deal.

I think ajofi is confused about who he is

our policy is racist because we don’t support terrorists over democracies?

jhicks, provocations? Let’s see. he visited an ancient Jewish site, with Palestinian Authority approval

ajofi, our policy is racist…… what is racist?

We don’t give respect to groups of people who seek out innocent men women and children to kill

I’m thinking more of the settlements

We support Uzbekistan.

To blow up, and destroy

They are terrorists.

ajofi uses “we” and “our” to place imself in various contradictory groups

==== does not tacitly approve our policy

We are protecting a Cuban terrorist. We protect terrorists all the time.

Explicitly approves a great part of our policy

I think ajofi is confused about who he is

which caused a lot of collateral issues

really, Uzbekistan is sending people to blow up civilians in school buses?

No they terrorist their own citizens. terrorize they boil them torture them

Good thing Palestinians don’t.

much like Chile

I get really tired of people talking about “respect” and using terms like “Freedom fighter” to describe these monsters

i cannot remember the last time i ever saw an Israely suicide bomber……. hmmm…..

It doesn’t sit well

in the 70s

ajofi tortures his small weenie

so if we are so racist, why DO we support Uzbekistan???

DKLassify, lol cindy does all the time lol miss sheehan…

in the 70s ‘

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poor gal

see there

Giving them exscuses for killing innocent people

supporting Uzbekistan is just dum

“we were singin bye byeeee miss american piee…”

he tortured his weenie in the 70’s

we’ve supported lots of crap, that’s true.. but that doesn’t make us racist.. not supporting Palestinian terrorists makes us racist though

US-Male h hahahahahahahahaha lol

great logic

Yep.

Our policy of supporting various factions of all races is racist makes sense

Are Palestinians a race?

in a crazy ajofi world

night peeps

yeah he never answered my questions… since 1964, the word RACE is used infinitumly for lawyers to make money off of….

Explain Posada to me.

A race different from Egyptians, Saudi Arabians, Iraqis, Jordanians, or any of the other Arabs we are apparently not racist against?

“so come on jack be nimble, jack be quick…”

USA supported the enemies of its enemies, regardless of their race you can argue that the policy was stupid, but it is idiotic to argue that its’ racist

in the 70s ‘

US-Male lol

nope it’s racist

ajofi, what is a racist?

is this channel for counter strike?

our policy with Palestine it’s a double standard

Co-opps, no AOE2 is played on another channel…

Posada we protect

hello

And Hamas, we use collective punishment against Arabs.

“Palestine” has been allied with just about everyone who has been the enemy of the uS

Co-opps, yes, may we help you?

Hitler, USSR, Iran, Saddam, Bin Ladin

Oh, bullshit “

Try irc.gamesurge.net / #gamesurge for CS jackasses.

yet not suppporting it is proof of racism???

If you do what we tell you to do and be nice little Arabs, you’re OK. If you don’t, we will collectively punish all of your citizens.

hey duffsterr um is this channel for counter strike

Israelis are the real “Palestinians”

“collective punishment against arabs.” we don’t even punish ANY Arabs.

Co-opps, no it is not, sorry

if “what we tell you” is “don’t kill our children”, then yes your sentence is correct

do you know how to find those channels? for scrims and stuff

we are punishing Palestinians Arabs

Co-opps, no it is not, sorry, maybe against leftists boobies… but thats about it… lol

Co-opps, irc.gamesurge.net #gamesurge

No, we are not.

they are collectively being punished yes they are

No, they are not.

DStewart, huh? We don’t punish any arabs?

and yet as you pointed out they COLLECTIVELY voted in Hamas

yes we are

ajofi needs to be punshed so he sees what it is

collective punishment seems appropriate for a collective crime

Gaza is it’s own punishment

ajofi likes to take it up the pooper

anyone dl the new ie 7?

because they voted for Hamas we have effectively shut down their government

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