10.31.07
goppp no reporting should question what people in power tell us and the presidents program allows for eavesdropping
since it’s the policies that ultimately matter
LSman becuase like recent reports are indeciting about low subscription rates to newspapers
LSman, uhhhhhhhhhh
i need a bag of holding …
the people are not reading news papers
the Ds had 40 PLUS YEARS of power….
full of personal opnions, even in something like a simple report
duffsterr, that’s kind of exaggerrating, but it still doesn’t address my point that republicans have dominated recently in spite of the “liberal media” they whine about
LSman and thanks to the internet, and other media sat radio or podcasts
u have a dipshit of Bernie Sanders from Maine, a total SOCIALIST……. in Congress…. isnt that amazing……….
CJS you need to study governmental and political ideology…
it’s like christians complaining that christianity is “under attack” heh
duffster and the R’s have fucked up their 10 years,,,,,,
many here are well versed in it
one need not get the one view walter conrkite view of the world
LSman, have they?
we can form our own opnions, even go to online journals and read peer reviewed
the us has plenty of socialist programs
articles
MiDave, HAVE THEY!?
Christianity is not under attack…
the GOP is pathetic……as bad as any liberal Democrat on the planet…at least i know the Dems want total govt
dont say socialists are a bad thing
my goodness…
drink some more Koolaid
but mindless democrat contingents seek to sanitize religion out of everywhere
LSman so to say, that reading news papers make you special sure does but does it make more infomred
duffsterr, have they dominated politics? ummm, just look at election results going back to 2000… even 1994, for the most part… with the exception of clinton and the 1998 midterms
could be, but not facutally informed
its Fucking Christmas not wahtever PC shit you wish to call it
anyone with an R on their shirt are EVIL
LSman it was no thanks to the media
anyone with a D on their shirt are HEAVENLY
and Kwanzaa is a crock of shit too
is is amazing….
duffster,,the GOP are controlled from the top…
the only media to put out thier point of view is talk radio
almost everyone here went to a socialist school, drinks socialist water, and enjoys a socialist post office
LSman
Duffsterr we have L’s
goppp, I didn’t say it made me special… us-male1z asked me if I read, and I said that I do… we disagree on whether the mainstream media paints an accurate picture, and I don’t think either of us will change our minds
MiDave, ok, here we go… hahha
in the 90’s
they will not notice us
the GOP leadership is corrupt to the core reality
CryHavoc, i know that… lol
LSman yea readint hte headlines is nto read LSman but you don’t read
MiDave..the GOP does not steal as much
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,1874818,00.html — “Science Jobs from our site Project Officer (Training) Internal Communications Manager Games QA Lead Tester
all you do is glance at headlines
Search all jobs
MiDave, okay, so we vote them out…?
Cry..um yes they do
goppp, first of all, I don’t just read headlines, second, how would you even know? lol
LSman you don’t go and check if those sources are correct
not as much as the dems do
well I don’t know how you read, or what you read
look at the Republcians in prison the last 3 years Ney from Ohio
but I do know, that you don’t check the sources
also goppp, I’m still waiting for you or anyone to tell me some cases where the media has gotten it horribly wrong in a way that’s biased against bush
Taft from Ohio
I rahter have tax breaks for the rich ..then more 40s for the poor
you assume the “staff” is right
the crying clown from California
but I call the GOP the lesser evil..not the better party…
even when 90% of the staff reporters have bias, that is onesided reporting,
the Republcians have proven they are as corrupt as any Democrat
would not that try to give you a hint LSman
goppp, you’re correct that I assume what I read in reputable papers with long histories is generally accurate… I think the vast majority of people would agree with me on that
to say “hmm let check the source of the source”
CryHavoc, amen, it has been that way since Goldwater lost by 1 million popular votes in 1964…. isnt that amazing…
MiDave..I tend to agree
to deny that is to deny reality
let see if he left anything out LSman and it just not liberal bias
goppp, could you please just tell me a case where the media has gotten it wrong because of their bias lately?
it marketing bs also
no re-counts to boot…
was that Dornan ?
LSman hmm 60 mins
but given the choice of 2 evils…the GOP is the lesser
we’re having this whole conversation, and nobody has even given me any examples of why we’re having it heh
LSman and reporting about bush
MiDave: corruption was never in question; what drives people to politial parties is which side compromises which principles; … everyone has a preference on what they can and can not let slide.
goppp, something specific, come on
there are more than 2 options
all I want is one example
the ex Nam Vet busted for Mil Ind Complex bribes..
to be honest I have no allegiances to the Democrats
LSman the palm case
and THAT is when America figured out the LESSER OF 2 EVILS that EMBRACED FREEDOM…. personally and ECONOMICALLY….. that is for goddamn sure…..
you guys make it sound like there are tons every day
they got that wrong
it is just that simple….
palm case?
dont pick an evil just becuase its less than another
I am college educated..no kids..no wife…
duffster hi
LSman http://www.timeswatch.org/default.aspx
Libertine….any compromise between liberty and slavery….only slavery gains ground
I do not benefit from a union…
LSman why then is thier a webpage
I am agaisnt Aff action
that daily exposes the liberal bis bias
MiDave: how jeffersonian of you. heh
LSman why
I am Pro Choice though
the liberal bias
thats it
dipcrap Richard Nixon REALLY pissed on the economic freedom-ites with his PRICE CONTROL freakness….
the liberals are out of power
dan rather is no longer at cbs LSman wonder why
have been for 8 years
varrely plame is a fruad
goppp, because he got a big story wrong heh
and so is joe wilson
redfish, hi to you to
goppp CBS decided to be Rather Not
muslim rage o meter
oh, plame
Publius..lol
LSman becuase of his liberal bias LSman down stream memo where wrong LSman the 911 commssion reporting of binladen and billcliton was wrong but the media bought it
issat like a dial showing the severity…..from mild verbal riposte…to detonating self…to jihad?
thier a host of lot of issue oh gobal warming
Cry lol looK!
is a big issue for the media or even when they say don’t drink coffe it will kill y ou
Malkin is pretty
duffster,,and dont forget the severing of the Gold Standard…the Nixon legacy
but they misreport that they don’t tell you only people with heart problems or etc shoul dnot drink coffe
notice how the deficit balloned after the gold was severed??
it is truly undeniable now that ronald reagan policies moreso than not is why we are all here enjoying a happy life….
it not just liberal bias
I just snagged the rag o meter
CryHavoc that was funny
and now in the hyper inflation of the Iraq Welfare Warfare State….look gold is skyrocketing…coincidence??
I snagged the pic
Cry tis be trooo
1994 happened for a reason, i just honestly would like to hear an HONEST DEMOCRAT explain so……..
LSman nytimes bias LSman The print version of Thursday’s lead story gets off to an awkward start. The headline reads: “Panel In Senate Backs Bush Plan for Monitoring — Domestic Eavesdropping,” with the two words after the hyphen as a subhead under the main headline.
Mohammed is a false prophet
sorry kali….
something happened in 1994,… AN OFF-YEAR ELECTION…….
???
LSman also, when the media reports on bush wanting to toture people is wrong
I cut them down to 6″ by 6″
CRY — is ok — when I get on line in morning… maybe
it wrong, bush never wanted to toture as in kill
but base resolution is 1600 x 1200
or cut people up the media make it seem so
unforgivable!
cry — should have gone 4″ max cause I can take any small size and open to larger in photoshop
or how the media lied and stated the reason we went to iraq was for wmd when it was for the un resoultion not wmd
goppp, it sound like you’re the one just skimming headlines and articles… you’re making a lot of really general statements that just don’t hold up if you read the articles
US-Male1z dont troll with anti religion
but the media and the nytimes stated otherwise
its disgusting
Kaliuna…bitmap pics distort when you do that
the UN resolution
jUmB0-: screw you.
Cry — not if you know how to do it
I forgot yer on DUN tho..sorry
nice one
LSman do you want a large term paper on liberal bias
jUmB0-: Mohammed is a false prophet
does it fit in irc format
since when does the GOP follow what the UN wants?
Kali do not forgive this great insult! hehe
bitmaps distort…Vectors are scalable
you are a false prophet
CRY — and don’t use btms — just use jpgs…
LSman The phrase “Domestic Eavesdropping” itself is seriously misleading, but reporters Eric Lichtblau and Kate Zernike repeat that formulation in the first paragraph and again in the fifth
prophets are false reality
Pub — hi how U doing tonight?
A JPEG is a bit mapped image
http://www.splendoroftruth.com/curtjester/archives/007166.php — new must-have app
its what I use
goppp…..do you really beleive the slants and twisting you spout?
CRY — JPEG am talking jpg - there is a diff..
jpg is JPEG
bush is not allowing domestic eavesdropping LSman fact is, we are only eavesdropping on terror cells.
goppp, but see, it’s not misleading heh… what would you have us call it, “domestic anti-terror-listening” or something?
Kali i’m alright…just catchin up on the news
old fashioned 8.3 DOS file constraint
goppp, yes, some in the united states
CRY — but they will load ok when I’m back on my regular stuff…
CryHavoc, lol
yeah its the liberal press’ fault the govt is spying on all of us to catch 1 in 200 million
ok
hahaha
LSman well the way the nytimes reporters stated is missleading
goppp, sounds like you basically don’t like any reporting that’s skeptical of our leaders
those damn liberals
goppp, I don’t think it is
LSman reporting should be factual not opinited that the point
get krunk!
yeah Fox News reported they ahd the WMD in Iraq 3 years ago…where are they…..why report what isnt factual???
bush don’t want to waiste his time spying on me, or you but on terror cells
goppp, no, reporting should question what people in power tell us… and the president’s program allows for eavesdropping on domestic calls… he says he’s only listening to terrorists, but he’s the one who decides who gets listened to… what’s misleading about calling it “domestic eavesdropping”?
CryHavoc oh my haha
I don’t defend fox news
that’s how i see it reported all the time
nor do I watch fox news
and I think it’s accurate
iraq had wmds and it is a fact,
I don’t even own a tv
mmmmm more Koolaid……… i like Choo Choo Cherry
isnt that amazing…
yes..I can Adobe!!!!
dufferster inshallah!
MiDave I don’t own a tv
i like the Purplesaurus
aloha and have fun
goppp, or do you think we should just trust the president and not ask questions
i own like 5 of em
CRY — adobe the memory hog…
LSman should question that for oped colums not reporting
Kali..academic whern you have 2 Gigs of RAM Photoshop is the only answer to serious phot work
LSman they put untrue statments
duffster…what happened to them?
cry –don’t care — still don’t like adobe
LSman to mislead readers and your defending it
and drano and bleach in the same closet isnt a WMD
MiDave, what do u mean what happened to them?
I use it for editing Ebay auction pcs
goppp, none of those things you pasted is untrue
it is a massive sized suite Kali..
LSman Notice that part about “international phone calls and e-mail”? The N.S.A. spy program monitors international communications from suspected terrorists in America, not domestic. It’s an important distinction, one the Times invariably fails to note, perhaps in order to make the program sound more like an invasion of privacy than it truly is.
MiDave, what do u mean what happened to them? they used them on their own people AFter we TRIED to get rid of SADDAMN…..
MiDave unless they get mixed together…
duffster..truly Faux News would have brought thses facts to life
I used Aldus and Micrografx before
goppp, and it’s not misleading… the mistake you’re making is that you assume what the administration puts out, how THEY describe their programs, is fact.. it’s not; it’s spin… a reporter’s job is to compile the spin and explain both sides of it
MiDave, or rather, THE?Y DID…
LSman the reporting is true, it was reported, the wording used int he report where misleading and unture it implied
CRY - yup and I prefer micrographx or photoshop — do both…
that they where spying on grandmother
what do you use Ms Kali?
or grandfather or me
goppp, read the article that the times wrote when they uncovered the program; that’s exactly how they explain it
but it misleading
MiDave, u dont FUCK NEWs, which is a joke, u need the UN which told the truth…
and thus unture
well we know we gave them some WMD’s…but did they have any when we invaded??
Kaliuna.. Adobe Photoshop
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/14/washington/14capital.html
CRY - photoshop yup 7.0somethig
ahh ok…
the UN HATES THE USA…. okay? they are like the Democratic Party of the
I have CS2
CRY — but I still prefer my micrgraphx
look at the title LSman Panel in Senate Backs Bush Plan for Eavesdropping
the UN isnt the truth
the UN HATES THE USA…. okay? they are like the Democratic Party of the USA…. thats all it is…..
lets take a quick vote
LSman “The White House took a critical step on Wednesday in its effort to get Congressional blessing for President Bush’s domestic eavesdropping program,”
Micro grafx was ok for a while
look in the article you troll gawd it what they stated
whenEVER has the UNITED NATIONS EVER EMBRACED THE UNITED STATES??????? EVER?????
it misleading
a joke….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOxTaCJ2d2Q
republicans say rep, democrats say dem, independants say indy indy
um the US created the UN
but inevitably…I found myself usign Adobe….
isnt that amazing…
CRY and I had the latest Micrografx out there — and it still has photoshop beat for many things, but photoshop beats out on some of the stuff too – tit for tat thing
LSman On the domestic eavesdropping program, strong White House lobbying began to pay dividends on Wednesday
so no one wants to claim affiliation ?
lol this is cool
if a “D” was President, u can rest assured the UN would get on their kneez……
goppp, it IS eavesdropping, and it IS domestic eavesdropping… it’s international calls from people IN THE US… look up the word “domestic”
this is the only time the word terror was thier Mr. Negroponte said the plan would impose intolerable limits on any interrogation methods American intelligence officers might use against future terror suspects held by the Central Intelligence Agency in secret overseas prisons.
poor Jimmy Carter…. isnt that amazing……
is the wiretap law under the CFR ?
goppp the top GOP Senators oppose Bush assuming control w/o their approval..and rightfully so
If current trends continue, 30% to 40% of all new jobs created over the next 25 years will be in health care.
LSman that bullshit
Hi Bush! i guess u r all watching this.
Bush needs to have his lame duck wings clipped
LSman that domestic is bullshit
goppp, it’s not bullshit, it’s the white house’s own proposal… go read it
LSman the author impiles or reported
anyone ?
That sort of lopsided job creation is not the blueprint for a well-functioning economy
LSD_Wash it not domestic like everyone as teh nytimes implies LSman it implied to be everyone you idiot
goppp, but he doesn’t imply that; he explains exactly what it is
I told you three times yes he does
MiDave — you ain’t man enough to do it
in the last phargraph
all2human, uhhhhhhhhh private job creation is wonderful…….
sure
‘ Beware! Dastardly neo-cons skulk everywhere Evidence found in Central parking lot ‘
all the way in the bottom
goppp, no, in the fifth paragraph
yes
who here is a web page slinger???
‘ Who is responsible for 9-11? Conspiracy theorists suggest diverse possibilities, but suspects almost always involve scheming neo-cons. President Bush and Rupert Murdoch, or Karl Rove and Mossad, or Dick Cheney and Halliburton, or Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz, or even Dan Quayle. ‘
you need to scroll all the way down you idiot and yes you are cuase you buy this shit only an idiot would by this assumption from a reporter who is not factual
goppp, and in any case it’s domestic eavesdropping… I mean, is he or is he not trying to listen to calls originating in the us?
CFR ?
rebooting bb sometime or other
oh
Kaliuna, k
and who questioning, is more opnionted then for factual reason
you may not LIKE the facts, but they’re the facts
Kaliuna be nice or join the iggy bin
LSD_Wash it error eveasdroping
LSman, they are the facts of what? lol
Code of Federal Regulations !
it not just domestic you idiot LSman it all over the world
‘ Behind it all is a furtive network of Zionist-sympathizing neo-cons, they insist. Nudge, nudge. Wink, wink. ‘
not just america
oh gawd… wth is a zionist?
it terror to talking to terror and not mom talkign to dad or such e.g.
someone please explain that to me….
lol the evil jew!
goppp……regardless…….Bush is out of control..and his own party is finally reigning him in before the lose both houses of Congress
goppp, what bush is trying to do is to be able to, without a warrant, listen to international calls made by people in the u.s. if he thinks they’re connected to terrorists… a policy I support, btw
and look who they qoute Mr. Negroponte said the plan would impose intolerable limits on any interrogation methods American intelligence officers might use against future terror suspects held by the Central Intelligence Agency in secret overseas prisons.
‘ Conspiracy theorists blame oil hunger on big business, and greedy individuals who drive SUVs and use aerosol deodorant, and sinister globalist forces and American soccer moms driving mini-vans to Wal-Mart. ‘
goppp, and that’s domestic eavesdropping… limited, but still domestic eavesdropping
LSman yes and I don’t think it wrong
Publius I would appreciate your opinion on that article if you’re interested in reading it
LSman what wrong with stop terror
goppp, and I don’t see why you’re calling me an idiot… we’re having a civil discussion here, and I’m not calling you names
all2 i will tonight
you want to take that power away from bush
dont attribute the murder of freedom to bush
much like the reporter is suggesting
hes not that powerful
duffster omg u don’t know? loser ;p
$2.09 gal gasoline here Publius, yeah, i am lol
LSman k, sure but I didn’t call you names
God Damn right i wanna take power away from the Executive branch
I called you out on your logic
goppp, I don’t think that’s what the reporter is saying… I think he reported that bush’s proposal is getting support on capitol hill… if anything, that’s good for the administration heh
duffsterr i dunno either, ahmadinejad does lol look
goppp, you called me an idiot
Publius, lololol
this isnt a monarchy
and only an “idiot” would be label as such for the logic he argues with
phear the NeoCawnz !
Publius, i am with ya… lol
executive does have too much power right now; historically speaking.
duffster http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3305123,00.html —- “zionists are different than other jews” lololol ;p ugh
LSman I don’t deny the label, as I use it offten to label certain type of people who argue with certain type of logic
ok so it dont matter
damnit why did someone get my started on that
goppp, it’s an insult, an a gratuitous one, and in any case I was only telling you what the article said
it’s so funny though ha
no as much as during FDR … but still; it has a lot.
goppp, so where’s my failed logic?
poor fdr
LSman and I told you what the artcile was doing, it was misleading
martial law is coming soon 
LSman in that you failed to see the words used, was to make the readeing to be mislead
goppp, and I’m saying it’s not, so I guess we disagree again… personally I think this is another example where you’re nitpicking and not seeing the big picture
but you failed to see the wording, and such to be as such as to be misleading
goppp, so what would you have him write instead? “limited domestic eavesdropping”? because clearly it would allow domestic eavesdroppiong
duffsterr haha Bush is gonna take our freedom!
LSman and your logic, that you used to reach that opnions, is idiotic becuase any who can read, know it misleading
Publius, yeah, i still goto church and strip clubs…. no biggy…
Publius: freedoms are taken all the time; under every president
Patricia Kennedy Lawford, sister of President John F. Kennedy, has died,
isnt that amazing…
but then again you read the nytimes, and agree with thier opions of thier reporters I don’t so can we say we dissagree
Libertine I wish they would take your freedom to whine
goppp, I know the facts of the program, and I read the article, and I think it describes the program accurately and reports that it’s well on its way to becoming law… I work in politics, and I can tell you this is a POSITIVE story for the administration… that’s what’s so funny about this to me
LSman what are the “facts”
phear the boogyman NeoCawnz
define them
hell, i cant even drive on i-70…. hell, i cant even drive on i-70…. so many bush nazis askin for papers…. shit… isnt that amazing…
duffsterr lol whaaaaat?
LSman I never said it was not postive, nor did I say it was negative
bush nazis? who are they?
I said the wording
i wanna meet one hehe
was misleading
Publius: I often think your namesake would take a dim view of your views on government power.
being postive or negative is subjective
Publius is a neocon!
goppp, of course you’re saying it’s negative… you’re saying some ill-informed person would read this and get a bad opinion of the administration’s proposal because you think it overhypes the eavesdropping (which it doesn’t)
Libertine it does, the main reason that I harass you jeffersonian whiners too
unless it was Hamilton…..he was a statist
US yuh ^5
goppp, I’m telling you it’s factually accurate and would, if anything, give people a more positive impression of the proposal so I don’t see why you’re upset
jefferson++
jeffersonian whiners
LSD_Wash The program would allow the National Security Agency to eavesdrop without a warrant on the international phone calls and e-mail of people in the United States. LSman The program would allow the National Security Agency to eavesdrop without a warrant on the international phone calls and e-mail of people in the United States. again it say people in the usa implies all people
— Proud Jeffersonian Whiner
it misleading
true.. Hamilton was a real authoritarian bastard.
goppp, how is that misleading? that’s exactly what the proposal is
all internatinal people all people in the usa who get calls
Libertine why thank you !
“What Democrats have to do is to close the deal,” said Obama, the keynote speaker at Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin’s 29th annual steak fry. “We have got to show we have a serious agenda for change.”
… who helped form this nation
LSman it assumes all people
bhahaha rofl
LSman it not all people LSman so again it misleading The program would allow the National Security Agency to eavesdrop without a warrant on the international phone calls and e-mail of people in the United States.
thats why Hamilton was shot
goppp, no, but it never implies that it is… what it implies is that the president gets to pick who gets listened to, which is true
international phones calls and e-mails of people
_Forbin, ahahahhahaa poor Obama…..
LSman yes it does
he was a traitorous bastard bitch-boy
in my opnions it implies that
duffsterr haha, go barak..go go
_Forbin, ahahahhahaa poor Obama….. is a joke…..
my opnion is nor right or wrong LSman it my opnion
and even tho Burr was crazy…he did the right thing
goppp, you want him to report that it will only be used to listen to terrorists, but that’s not a fact… that’s what the president says… the fact is that the president could listen to whoever he decides has terrorist connections
LSman that is fact it is
goppp, so you’re the one interjecting opinions here
it will be used to tracked down terriost
goppp, what the president says is not a fact
not your mom calling her sister in london or such e.g.
Publius, he is… he is a fraud…. but most ppl in USA who have voted D’s forEVERRRRR are now understanding they are on their own……
LSman so bush is lying I knew it
1994 happened….
goppp, that’s not what I said
LSman know LSman you saying bush is lying
it is amazing…. to me…. to watch this….
goppp…..yeah we know every action the govt takes is benevolent
goppp, what the president says is not a fact
I knew it
goppp, there’s a difference between saying that and saying he’s lying
k I am done
they woiuld never use wiretaps for political expediency like “cough” Nixon did
I can’t debate a person
goppp, I’m saying, you can’t assume that what anyone says is true
who only issue is to call bush a lyer
goppp, that’s bad reporting
what the hell is reactionaryism ?
goppp…..drink some more Koolaid
goppp, I don’t think bush is lying, and I never said that
MiDave, uhhhh, that affects you now individually? r u sober?
LSman I never said it was bad reporting all I said it was misleading in my opnion
goppp, what I said is that it’s a reporter’s responsibity not to take anything someone SAYS at face value, whether it’s a democrat or a republican ora nyone else
duffsterrr the dem party should be illegal…no liquidated…..grrrrrrrrrr hehehe
im drunk on Whiskey and Freedom Fries
LSman that not facevalue it is misleading
goppp, and bush gives us no way of knowing whether he’s listening to terrorists, or how he defines that, becuase it’s a secret program… that is a fact, whether you support the program or not, and by the way I DO
Publius, well, the leadership… my grandparents are just appauled…
i think Bush is lying….. why.,..b/c he has lied alot already,,,,
goppp, what’s interesting is that you’re the one who wants opinions interjected into this story, not me… you want people to report exactly what the president says without questioning it… that’s not real reporting; that’s a white house press release
fuck the moslems, from a catholic
MiDave, “i did not have sexual relations with that woman… Miss Lewinsky…”
he is the decider, he decides…
under oath
they are killing catholics now, its time to fuck up the moslems bad
the enemy of my enemy is my friend??
i dont like expanding federal wiretapping powers i dont see the justification for it panning out
mmmmm more Choo Choo Cherry please
i decided to watch flight 11 and flight 175 fly into American symbols…..
you can already do it under old rules
LSman how is it opnions to be injected when all I said was that is should correctly state why the program objectives are and not to say a gernal statmenet uLSman how is it opnions to be injected when all I said was that is should correctly state why the program objectives are and not to say a gernal statmenet/u
nosubmit .. stop it. You can’t condemn an entire religion. You are being a bigot.
that can be applied to any one
you needed this thing called ‘probable cause’ and another thing called a ‘warrant’
duffsterrr your grandparents? you must avenge them! the party has died…revive! ha
LSman you know that and I know that
Publius, hahaha, yeah, we have…
if your investigation was worth a damn its not hard to come by PC or a warrant
Please refrain from bigoted rhetoric.
goppp, it does state the program’s objectives, and times has reported on many occasions that the president wants to use it to track terrorists… I mean, it says in the third sentence that this is part of bush’s “national security agenda” heh anyone with a pulse knows this issue by now
cometbaby will you marry me
geeeez
i condemn all fucking moslems to hell and those who side with the moslems should be shot too
jumbo .. I’m already married .. sorry.
shitty
duffsterrr if you go democrat, i’ll go too LOL coup de etat!
LOLOL
nosumbit stop trolling
Publius, lolol
yes we dislike terriost
CB how many proposals does that make?
but that wrong what you said
buuuuuuuuuurn lolol
anyway, I need to sleep
cry .. well, none of them are serious so I don’t count
LSman to be honest me and you know the program objective, but for a person who just reads this will have a different opnion
CometBaby I bet at least one of the nutters are serious lol
Ebn el metnakah
its a fort off of brittany
after reading this, and come to conlude it a program to monitor all americans and all international calls when bush wants to, which is not factual
pub .. I honestly doubt it
so thierfore, it misleading
hrm..
I mean I am a total stranger
Publius, something is goin on….. its really strange…. the blue angels flew over here in Kansas City and there ppl that had no connection to it… to the airshow…… its really strange….. men, women, young, old…
this is just one example of the nytimes bias
goppp, except it does give him the authority to do that - the rest is just trusting him to use it properly
CometBaby haha
I think that’s an accurate picture of the policy
LSman not to say, they don’t have other great sections like arts, and stuff
and hopefully he does use it responsibly
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060917/wl_nm/somalia_italian_dc_3 - Nun shot by gunmen in Mogadishu, link to Pope’s remarks on islam suspected
and live alone
except it does give him the authority to do that - the rest is just trusting him to use it properly thats the problem
Bi kem el sharmoota di?
away from it all
Gog 123…why??
LSman no not unless your a terriost
no one went so far as to intent
everything is connected in this crazy world lol i don’t by this “stranger” business one bit
France is fine I hear
goppp, but who’s deciding that? it’s the administration
I decided to cash it all in and buy an island in france
i think a lot of people assume that the intent is to get terrorists and that its legit
’specially in the middle east, they all know someone someome else knows
if you can find work and avoid the rioters
i just need fiber optics
but the problem is, there is this messy little issue of privacy, rights, and due process
Publius, there was a bond when we spoke…… it was strange….
heh
duffsterrr no connection?
COmet — hi
hey kali
Im willing to pay for the fiber cable, but would someone do it if i paid them?
CRY — pix downloaded — looks good… you’ve done a nice job
OOPS
would be a bitch with permits and all
Comet — bit nippy out there ehh?
Publius, i didnt know this gal from adam talking to me…. but its all 911 post-world….
kali .. actually kinda nice
nippy hahaha
and if they say the admin decession to monitor terriost and that lncluudes the phonecalls
Publius, its crazy
no would question the program
Comet — well ya kinda nice - but going to 49-47 kinda chilly …
cause it fact
so regardless of intent, without regard to intent, there is a serious problem with the desire to monitor private communications in that it shortcuts measures in place to ensure it isn’t abused
duffsterr lol girl from adam? you must explain in this post 9/11 world
that it won’t be nothing else then trying to secure our country, by stoping terriost
see its about oversight
ppl, tons of ppl showed up, watching the show…. young and old, male, female, white black, rich poor i am sure….
I’ll try to declare independence from france when i build up my military
we have it with the warrant and requirement for probable cause
Im not at that stage yet
and we had general conversations with each other…
goppp, right, but now you’re talking about the administration’s stated intentions as though they’re indisputable facts, and that’s just not the case… wouldn’t be if bill clinton or a democrat said the same thing, either that’s all I’m trying to get you to see
LSman it fact
didnt know each other ever….
the bush admin won’t spend it times, montiring our cival debate
goppp, it’s NOT a fact… it’s a fact that the administration said those things, but that doens’t make what they say a fact
on the topic
theres not much on reactionaryism in google
it was amazing…
I can say that 2+2=5, but that doesn’t make it a fact because I said it I can say that 2+2=5, but that doesn’t make it a fact because I said it
the permit for the boat is only good during high tide
goppp, but see, that’s your opinion, not a fact
LSman it sure does, becuase they stated that saddam was a dicator, it been proven he was
i mean i have to walk to the island when there is low time
it was a fact the admin said that tax cuts would help the ecomonny
but they may waste vaulable resources monitoring worthless junk that never would have been approved in the first place because it was a hunch not backed up by any probable cause
and they have
err tide
duffsterrr lol sounds like you met a hot chick
i need a bridge
goppp, what does that have to do with this program?
travis9 say who
drawbridge lol
in effect missing the tree because they are too busy staring at the forest
LSman that has to do with the word “trust”
LSman, the mainstream press votes 90% for DEMOCRATS every 4 years since 1992…… thanks for the call….
I trust them
whoa
I am unsure why you won’t
goppp, and the key word there is “proven”… when facts demonstrate that the administration is only using the program to track people with clear terrorist ties, then you can call that a fact
