10.31.07
goodburgr how about the ones in 04 in florida where dems were saying POLICEMEN WITH *GUNS* were going around to
as exampled above
one more time … any voter who can be so easily mis-led is NOT competent to vote, IMO
the issue you’re raising is not the same thing that is a disgusting attitude very unamerican of you.
and also the voter supression allegations tactic is WIDELY KNOWN to be a dem tactic, and they *MAKE ALLEGATIONS UP*
I’m sorry the truth disgusts you
why do you hate democracy oh, wait, i know why. because your party is losing this election. lol.
my ignore list will fill up quick today
bud`: the virginia board of election has said the incidents appear widespread and deliberate
it’s okay to hate the president and march against the war, that’s American, but stating that incompetence should not have a vote is Unamerican?
goodburgr good for them. just shows the dem strategy is alive and well
saying that victims of fraud do not deserve to vote is unamerican, while marching against a war is not. correct.
my party ALWAYS loses every election
oh, right, i forgot, you’re a “libertarian”. hahahaha.
I have never elected a single representative
anyone else in new york state?
rustyford !! but you will have to find him elsewhere !!!
I have NEVER been a Republican .. I was a Democrat before I became a Libertarian
sure you were.
goodburgr i suppose the calls i get from American Family Voices are *really* republicans also!
ah, I was just gonna complain that I think I might have to vote for callaghan for comptroller even though he’s not at all qualified… I just can’t vote for hevesi heh
bud`: those calls do not attempt to suppress voters.
I was a representative to my Democrate District Convention
bud`: there is no comparison with the shenanigans going on in virginia sure you were
in San Antonio Texas
goodburgr sure there is, its called dirty tricks
are you calling me a liar on this channel in front of witnesses?
i didn’t say that lol i am laughing at you, though.
that’s fine … as long as you aren’t calling into question my statements of fact
lol you’ve demonstrated a poor grasp of logic and a willingness to be intellectually dishonest
I’ve been a Libertarian on this channel since the early nineties
I resisted the urge to go and vote early this year. figured best to wait until the day to see if anything major happens.
thus i laugh
All NY politicians are crap
sure you have. bud`: robocalling and failing to identify yourself properly is not comparable to deliberately trying to suppress voters bud`: that is an absurd comparison
you asked my party affiliation and then claimed I was a dishonest Republican … anything else you want to say?
i did not say that. you are intellectually dishonest because you immediately asked about the virginia secretary of elections’ party affiliation
But it’s NY, so you can’t expect much from people there…even upstaters, completely different world of A-holes…even dramaticlly different from Vermont
and when pressed admitted your question had no relevance that is intellectual dishonesty
goodburgr they are both dirty tricks methods, and making allegations of theseis a major dem tactic at the last minute during every election of recent memory. they have cried wolf too many rimes now, and the net result is, sorry, dont believe it. too easy for dems to make these messages and produce TAPES! WE HAVE TAPES! LOOK!
asking the party affiliation of an official who is insinuating improper tactics in a highly partisan election is intellectual dishonesty?
bud`: failing to follow procedural law to the letter could reasonably be an accident
morning oc
nice spin … intellectually dishonest, but nice
no, disclaiming that your intention was to imply that she was making it up because she may be a democrat is intellectual dishonesty
morning tot
goodburgr nothing you argue changes anything. go look up the next tacric in the dem election guide of dirty tricks
you must get tire of trying to put so many words in other people’s mouths
bud`: nothing will change your mind, i realize that.
you should give yourself a rest
I asked a question … you answered it … I made no such statement of relevanve
you should get some intellectual honesty
that does not mean that I said there WAS no relevance you really should take a reading comprehension course
goodburgr how about the ones in 04, in florida, where dems were saying POLICEMEN WITH *GUNS* were going around to elderly black voters houses and *ASKING QUESTIONS!* of those who voted by absentee ballot? some of this shit is almost too funny
my party affiliations is really none of your business, but my point is that there are reports from all over the country of mud-slinging, get out the vote tactics and the usual allegations and counter-allegations
only that I disclaimed the particular form of relevance you tried to attribute to it
what was the relevance of the question, then? if not to imply that the virginia board of elections is involved in a partisan conspiracy?
goodburgr if I called them, and made an allegation of democrats caling my phone and telling me if i vote they will shoot me, are they obligated to investigate? will that make my allegation true?
bud`: what about the virginia board of elections saying instances of voter suppression in primarily democratic and/or black districts appear “deliberate and widespread”?
Oh, I think we’re way past that point in the discussion … my question was designed to see what actual facts you had, find out what those facts might be, and incidentally reveal any bias you might be putting on the whole issue … and it was successful
bud`: i would hope they would be obliged to investigate
does it mean my allegation is true, and proven t be dems?
your question was entirely irrelevant to the issue, then. it was ad hominem. lol. again, acquire some intellectual honesty. ad hominem is not it.
the whole campaign and election system in America has gone way past the point of actually policing the process and enforcing the rules
bud`: no
goodburgr the board of elections would take my complaint, and forward it to authorities. now is it true?
bud`: but that isn’t what is being reported here bud`: i assume that is true, yes.
goodburgr its exactly whats being reported
bud`: no, it isn’t.
yes, it is
bud`: what is being reported is that the virginia board of elections is calling instances of voter suppression tactics “deliberate and widespread”
In 2004, after I voted for the Libertarian candidate, a gang of hooded thugs broke into my house and beat me, and painted me blue. Then they told me that my vote didn’t count.
the allegations and counter-allegations have become part of the campaign tactical effort, the investigations are carried out pro forma long after the outcome can possibly make any difference, and the “punishment” comes in the form of fines that both sides can afford to pay easily appear to be …
goodburgr that does not in any way make the allegations true
good morning people and animals 
intellectual dishonesty … rofl Jupa
or point to WHO is doing it
Yaakov, your joking right?
do you think the recordings of the suppressive calls are just made up? conspiracy by democrats?
goodburgr the recording that appears on Webbs site? lol. great politics
I hope so. But it was so long ago, who can tell. I think I saw myself saying it in an HBO documentary.
of course not …. I have not doubt that someone is making those calls
bud`: correct.
Plus, there were some hooded thugs in black and white and SLOW MOTION!
where are the recordings of democratic voter suppression?
It was very convincing.
WHO is making those calls and for what reason is still to be investigated and eventually, long after it can make no difference, a report will be made to the public
goodburgr again, who the fuck would be stupid enough to leave documented evidence? I mean it would be so much easier to just stage the voicemail
does it seem in any way logical to you for a democrat to have made calls that would have the effect of suppressing voters in a close race?
supressin the colored folk!
bud`: so you think the voice mail was staged?
The practice if producing a outcome long after it can make no difference is nothing new
been done too many times by dems, these allegations. just dont carry water anymore
you have never heard of “disinformation campaigns” and “agent provocateurs?”
you didn’t answer my question.
you seem somehow, naive …
you seem intellectually dishonest.
amen I’ll leave that for others to decide
months, years later, who gives a shit
exactly … and the bipartisans designed that system to prevent fraudulent elections … rofl
this place is going to be a riot today, i love it.
Next they will tell us that George Washington didn’t cut down the cherry tree, and Abraham Lincoln never walked six miles through snow to return six cents.
I don’t know the answer to the question … you seem to want to use the allegations and a vague “appears to be” statement by a politician as ammunition
I was told at mount vernon GW didn’t have wooden teeth when I toured there
you appear to wish to make the statement more vague than it is
SHUT UP You are destroying the basis of our democracy!
i asked you for your opinion. you are obviously skeptical that these calls are being made by republican operatives
since I can never be allowed to have any representatives from my own party, my goal in this election is to achieve gridlock in those representative bodies
i am trying to find out why so you are voting democratic?
haha lieberman on fox
goodburgr when you take the allegations at face value, thats one thing. when you put it into context with what dirty tricks dems historically pull off, and even instruct this voter supression allegation method in their memo’s, it just doesn’t fly
I would like both parties to show their true colours as clearly as possible to as many citizens as possible and get exactly fifty-fifty in all the houses of all the legislatures and Congress
standing by a road, and some car is honking it’s support for him, and he’s like “haha, thank you!”
no, I live in a Democrat-controlled state
heh
You keep talking like that and the next thing you know there will be widespread vote fraud!
Huh ??
you can have puppet a or puppet b, which one do you want?
but that is irrelevant when talking about house and senate seats, if your goal is to create electoral gridlock in those bodies
so then you would vote dim if you lived in a republican controlled state OcDoc ?
Washington’s wooden teeth are one of the pillars of our freedom.
I see
i’m sure he will say he would
depends on individual situations
If you know it away people will have no hope and they will cast fraudelent votes in their enui!
i don’t think what is said bears much relation to what is really thought or performed by some folks in this channel
hahaha
err s/know/knock/
i’m just going to sit back and watch the fun….this is going to be a laugh riot
i’d be inclined to agree with that goodburgr
my vote doesn’t count much either way … sometimes I throw it away on a Libertarian candidate
goodburgr awww =( you just want people to shutup and accept last minute voter suppression b.s. tactics and not say anythin
i wonder if i should vote for dewine or not… hrm
bud`: i would prefer people to stop spinning bud`: but that is a pipe dream around here
aww =(
I guess I better go back to bed … wife kicked me out because I was snoring
it is all about spin. All spin, no content
so i will just sit back and watch the spin get totally insane, like suggesting democrats are behind the suppression of democratic voters
I don’t want to fall asleep at my desk tomorrow
lol
after contributin your fair share of spin, that is appropriate
lol
modern politics is a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham bmodern politics is a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham/b
Yaakov is falling seriously short
OC noe the topic
Personally, I like to keep in mind the maxim “Never assign to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity (and its concomitant incompetence).”
note
your intellectual dishonesty is truly hilarious i wish you’d stay and keep me entertained
sometimes that works well said!
you still think hes a repub? i wasnt really following. OcDoc you gotta either be a repub or a liberal. otherwise well you’re just dishonest =P
yes, the libertarian burden … no one takes us seriously, alas
In collective human affairs I find it more often correct than not. In any case, considering the amazing incompetence of our government in mass action of any sort, centralized vote tampering seems unlikely.
but you must not discount the presence of clever individuals acting alone
It requires too much coordination in this case. It could only have small scope.
Who says the government is incompetent?
I do.
class war is alive and well in the Socialist Workers’ Paradise of Washington
I’m reg’d LP. but only practice it in voting for local stuff
we have an initiative here to finally kill off the “death tax” … the anti ads say “only multimillionaires benefit from this initiative and millions of school children will be hurt”
the children =(
all in one commercial! class war AND “do it for the children”
If the govermnet employ people from the open market, just like any other sector, why would government employees be any less competent than comercial businesses?
When I apply Occam’s Razor to the various problems with voting I find incompetence, (politically neutral) greed and traditional economic classism as the only mechanisms needed to explain them.
“the children” are mostly a bunch of spoiled brats who will never benefit from education in any form and there is no evidence that the money already being spent on education is doing any good at all
morning folks
hiya Miss
They generally do not employ people from the open market and the MANAGEMENT is almost always career governmental employees.
education does not need more money, it needs better parents
and now …. heeeeeeere’s Timur
OcDoc, we need vouchers none of the unions like the idea of a voucher system tho wonder why?
Even a very competent set of individuals is incompetent in aggregate when the management is incompetent.
privatize public education once and for all and put it out of our misery
the two best education systems in the world use vouchers :/
But they must have come from somware, but the management would get sacked if they were incompitent. I vote for malice malice is easy to disquise with incompitence
in holland they want to obligate white parents to put their children to black schools… because thats suppose to be better for the intergration
Timur can’t get voice
I don’t see a basis for the assertion that incompetent managers get fired.
career govt employees blech
any ops on?
we need to go back to the idea of what education is….. we need to return to a focus on english/mathematics/civics(history) along with a foreign language
OcDoc webchat@xs4all will not get voice in here, ever, i reckon. unless you wanna voice every person who’s ever been banned from here
With the exception of a few specific agencies, governmental enterprises are notoriously inefficient and incompetent. PARTICULARLY at the state and county levels where voting occurs.
yes, forcing people who hate each other into the same room is guaranteed to cause love to break out
Kalomine Latin! =P
are you saying it’s not the real Timur?
latin, spanish, german, japanese, chinese beginning in the 1st grade
But if the government was incompetent the contry would be in a total mess (grin)
OcDoc im sure it is, but why’s he on a webchat used by efnets worst elements?
The ONLY way to get people that hate each other to get along is a bong full of weed, nothing else works…thus the Peace Pipe is born
hey, I’m just the messenger … Timur is asking for voice
But it’s best if people just hate each other
the WTC was made out of exotic matter.
no ident? i think comet/ft let people use chat.efnet.org
part of the reason we’re in this mess now is that people think that the government “runs the country” and that it SHOULD run the country and solve all our problems
one of them will be awake soon
it should OcDoc
The government is only in power because the people let them be.
I’m not surprised that you think so
why is that?
that’s what I said it’s a very common belief
Hello Timur-. Cat got your tongue?
you base this on bad goverment i mean progressive goverment
he can’t get voice
say for example switzerland
Yes, I was taunting.
Ok, a government that does the least is the best..
all government is bad it always has been and it always will be
you get a sane goverment they can do some good
impossible
The government keeps people from killing me and my family. I like that part.
invest in infrastructure services etc… not waste tax
that is not true
I also like the roads.
not really
Not in particular, in general.
you have the mistaken impression that without government there cannot be any infrastructure
The human nature is altrusitic by evolution. The savegry is often blown out of proportion and misrepresented
the countries with the highest standard of living usually pay the most tax but their govs invest it back in the country
And it is the fact that we have a government to fill the vacuum of no government that we don’t have war lords or the funtional equivalent.
yes, in general it’s true, and it’s why I’m not an anarchist but a minarchist
Infact, government wars are ingeneral the greatest cause of death, not street crime
I also like street lighting.
OcDoc so without this great central beuacracy of goverment, what do you replace it with?
In this country automobiles and gang killings are much more of a problem than foreign wars.
we have street lights where I live …. the government didn’t put them in a much smaller central bureaucracy
im talking on a global scale. Govermnent wars cause more death than crime etc.
good idea
why should I care if gang members kill each other?
If your neighborhood association didn’t (we don’t have one) the government would have.
and the point is?
when i talk on goverment i mean the swiss, norway, sweden holland etc.. the proressive countries whose people have more socialised benefits then we can think of
I never said you should. On the other hand, you might consider the social costs and want it to stop.
those countries don’t have riots?
street crime and other crime is small in proportion to what you may believe
I like that my municipal government provides street lights. I also like my police force.
bud/OcDoc, chat.efnet.org is ‘better’ as a webchat in that users connect on EFnet from their own IP.
do they do it well?
In general, yes. Fairly decent. Reasonable maintenance of public facilities.
you’re lucky … we have pitched political battles continuously here over such things okay … I gotta go take a nap before I get up to go to work … laterz guyz and dollz
The other thing is fire departments. They are VERY cool. (no pun intended)
problem with any goverment structure is when greedy self centered bastards are elected or take power, they take all the tax for themselves or invest it into things the people dont benefit from
Volunteer departments aren’t nearly as effective as professional ones. He left! I was saying too many good things about governments. It made him sleepy.
now youre making me sleepy
I have a VERY RELAXING personality.
democracy is flawed
Humans are imperfect. Your favorite color is blue.
humans have been around a lot longer than democracy
i like the passionte king system, a ruler so wise we dont have to worry for decades as he rule with an iron fist of sensativity
i hate not remembering whether i took my pills or not.
secularly speaking…..democracy is the best because it put the blame squarely on all citizen’s shoulders
lol i like that perspective
Universal suffrage is almost certainly a degenerative force given time. But I can’t spot a good alternative.
since the introduction of mass media the principle of democracy has been all but destroyed. Mass manipulation rules. Trial by public opinion based on what the media would have the masses believe
democracy doesnt really work in huge populations, it ends up in 2 party rule where the political parties are so general in sterotypes nothing really is done
I think I would support mud wrestling in Speedos as a way to decide who gets into office. As a run-off mechanism, that is.
exactly, we will increase the speed limit to 80MPh if you vote for us
of course we must differentiate….democracy generally speaking and democracy specifically speaking that is why education is so important in a democracy….so people can think for themselves and aren’t spoon fed by their leaders
lol ‘education’
The problem I find is that I am rarely willing to vote for someone who wants to be elected. The very fact of seeking office is usually a disqualifying factor.
Kalomine that is what is wrong with democracy, we dont need to worry about those silly details, that is why we need passionte kings to spend their days doing it for us, while we live a life of blissfull luxery
why is “education” a humorous term?
Well lots of people get their ‘education’ from the TV
Educated to take tests and play on gameshows
having a system that its expected the local dustbin man should have the inner working knowledge of economic policy that confuse stephen hawkings isnt that realistic
Schools now are all about learning to take tests…NOTHING else matter…well…besides sports
well, I said secularly speaking….monarchy is very much a religious government…and americans and other countries have pretty much erased God from government
Kalomine so how do you explain gw bush? you walked into that one
what are you talking about?
was wondering the same thing myself
how do I explain bush how?
bush believes he talks to god he acts more like a preacher than a leader, religious beliefs never left
in what context?
lots of men say they talk to god talking to god = praying whats wrong with that ?
Bush gives lip service to the religious right…he may or may not be a christian….but his day to day stuff is not overtly “religious”
lots of men say they were abducted by aliens too
Ohhh I see we have some intolerant people in our midst
Kalomine it is very religious
the only CLOSELY “religious” Bush has done is champion late term abortion cessation and banning human cloning….but MANY non-religious people agreed with him on both points
And the Gay Marrage amendment thing.
i havent seen one bush speech where he doesnt mention god somewhere in his mumbling rant
granted
It’s easy to say “An Imaginary invisible guy in the sky listens to everything I say and gives me wishes” and nobody will question that
it’s lip service and means nothing, as the religious right has learned
It is unfortunite when policy makers from either side, have to pander to the crazies to get elected.
wotgorrilla why are you so untolerant of others beliefs ?
I’m not, you have the right to say what ever you want
then why speak so nasty about others beliefs ? that is pretty untollerant imo
How is that nasty
sorry, got a blue screen of death….what did I miss in the last 45 seconds
It’s easy to say “An Imaginary invisible guy in the sky listens to everything I say and gives me wishes” and nobody will question that
I’m just being factual
thats not nasty ?
its a mistake to believe religion doesnt rule our political process, its been a dominate factor for millenia
Wotgorrilla your relatives and mine left europe so we could all think like we want especially in religious matters
they left?
why do you not want to allow that to not happen anymore
rond you know many of your ancestors were religious zealots they didnt just leave but thrown out as took on the religious status quo in europe and lost
anyway…my point is…the religious right is learning that republicans are giving nothing but lip service….2 things are going to happen…the republican will have a secular resurgence, the religious left will begin to become louder and hoepfully the Dems will come back from the fringe
We can have whatever religious beliefs we want. The difference here, is that we’re not allowed to codify those beliefs into law.
My son thinks an imaginary Fat Red Guy at the North Pole listens and sees everything he does too, doesn’t mean I’m being hateful when I tell them there is no santa claus either
no your right unless you use certain words within that telling then it becomes hateful and intollerant
ahhh so I should lie and make is soft and comfy for their weak little emotions uahhh so I should lie and make is soft and comfy for their weak little emotions/u
well astro on abortion and gay marriage quite a few people are against both so they should not have a voice in govt ? laws should only represent those that are for abortion and gay marriage ?
who is jacking with me?
what is weird why turn your back on europe? they been thru this for centuries, argueing about these matters since the greeks, instead of throwing fits and distancing yourself could of learned from it and maybe wouldent be going thru the same mess
http://users.vnet.net/timmywt/FAMSYE-MAIL.pdf — That E-mail says alot which it’s wrong
and wotgorilla your imagination that there is not a god is just as invalid as the imagination of those that believe there is one neither one of you can prove your side you ought to be a little more intellecutally honest about it or at least try to be
we can prove god doesnt exist, now in fact, god if you exist finish this sentance……. see no one there
stupid kids
Do you believe in Bigfoot and the Lochness Monster? More people see them than God, doesn’t mean they exist
vote democrat!
no more people do not believe in them than do in a god
what a belief system believing in a invisable entity that ignores you at all times
there are billions on this planet that believe in a god
They have to…it’s the “God part of the brain” They need to believe in something Can’t believe in politicians
waits for god to reply
wotgorrilla never mind I can see you not intellectually honest no use keeping up this thread
repent! vote democrat!
God has already spoken in the person of Jesus Christ, he spoke the universe into being, He has authored every sentence
its a miracle praise jesus, god just spoke to me, he said believe whatever i say and send donations
Why…because I don’t believe in an imaginary guy in the sky that answers my wishes if I’m good…and I can’t do what ever I want…as long as I ask god for forgiveness and give him money uWhy…because I don’t believe in an imaginary guy in the sky that answers my wishes if I’m good…and I can’t do what ever I want…as long as I ask god for forgiveness and give him money/u See how crazy that sounds?
and if you don’t get what you pray for its because its not part of God’s plan, perhaps you need to change what you pray for
yeah you used words in a clever way here is your reward….now add .50 to it and go get a cup of coffea yu cannot prove there is not god just as you cannot prove there is one
Kalomine god is a meaningless subject, i am a realist although if there is a god he forgive my lack of faith as he loves me anyway, so cant lose
just like sasquatch
hi so today is big election day when are the results announced for everything?
Maybe if God left more big footprints…we could call him a myth
yeah for wotgorrilla he is clever !!!
he does love you and speaks in numerous ways….through scripture, through nature, through witnesses sucha s myself….he desires a loving relationshp with you, he has spoken his wishes through Jesus
rond in all the years you believed in god has he ever replied to you?
Justified I did not say whether or not I beleived in god did I ?
then jesus can dye her hair blond and make me a believer
god speaks to me thru porn
nor did I say I have tried to talk to him or not
do you?
its none of your business actually what I believe but I did state a portion of my belief clearly
it is when mention it on a online chat forum why else say it if not for attention, now you got it
huh ????
so preach away
that sentence made no sense at all
so are you a christian?
It’s easy to make up a crazy cult and get people to believe anything, plus it great for money, power and control
your right wot it is and that is too bad
Make Tom Cruise say crazy stuff on the Today show…Dance puppet dance
anyone? are the results announced tmrw? or what?
this universe was created and exists through the desire of a glorious God. you, me, all humans have decided to go our own way, unfortunately that creates a lot of selfishness because we’re all fighting for ourselves….this me first attitude separates us from God…yet He wants us to live in Love, loving/worshipping Him and loving/helping each other, but we can’t do it ourselves because we are finite and don’t h
Who made God?
i take exception with you regarding all religion with a few extremists and easy targetted tv preachers i take exception with you regarding all religion with a few extremists and easy targetted tv preachers he is self existent…where existence comes from
Kalomine do you believe this or having a joke here? cant tell if youre being sarcastic or not
I believe it implicitly
she obviously believes it
ah ok
remove the religious overtones
now lets see how clever you and wot can be with her words
do you agree that humans are innately flawed
Religon has it’s place, it’s good to make old people feel good about dying and from being lonely before Death, It’s good for Charity, everything has it’s upsaide….just don’t drink the Kool-aid and eat the Applesauce
yes except me
upside*
you are flawed, I assure you if you don’t believe that then you’re a magalomaniac which is a flaw
no i prefer to think of myself as omnipotant
which you are not
yes but now this is sarcasm, are you sure this isnt a joke?
am i sure what isn’t a joke?
all this praise be stuff, i am not used to it, its like being cornered by jehova witness’s
i should move to Cynthia McKinney’s district just so i can vote agianst her
not trying to corner ya….but I am taking advantage of the topic
All it takes is one bad leader and you got the world burning witches..in what ever form they take, be it gays, Muslims, nonbelievers or heritics, All religon is on the verge of Madness …but so is all politics
Cynthia McKinney isn’t running
i know, but any vote that isn’t her would be fun
if she was running your vote would be against these guys http://users.vnet.net/timmywt/FAMSYE-MAIL.pdf
just glad to see she lost the primary what’d you do make your own score sheet? i just pulled it up off the web
Those E-mails that Represent the Islamic Organizations funded Cynthia McKinney!
i was hoping for a list of some type, but as i open it is something completely different i see i have to ask now, and? are any listed as suspected terrorist groups?
that comes from my old e-mail account which I get a descent amount of intelligence from it probably but tracing it down would be hard !
i’d say people definately have an interest voting for people who’ll make sure they aren’t villified simply for being muslim, islamic, palestinian or otherwise so atm i see no problem with the email, cynthia is still however a nut, that’s enough
why elections will be in lawyers hands ? chated voting machines ? cheated
please watch http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7236791207107726851
ok thanks i don’t have sound in my work pc hehe
anywho, remember “Vote as if your life depended on it… because it does!”
zzz
Today I’m finalizing the De-investure Deal into Diebold Voting Systems Inc.
anyone been out voting/ how was turnout looking in your area. were rural so i can;t really judge
they might collapse just opened here - its 7am
i was like the 30th person to sign the list at 830 so thats pretty good probably
backlash in the 6 years …. republicans will separate themselves from the religious right, religious left will grow in power changing the Dem party irrecovably big crowd from open - 9am another surger at lunch and then after 4 to close
Diebold makes Prison Systems also
must be thrilling living in democracy, once every few years trotted into voteing booths like cattle. one touch of a screen or wave of the pen your duty is done then let out again, back to the fields
makes our gps handhelds the army uses. its clunky like a gi joe walkie talkie diebold i mean
why are you so negative/cynical?
I like big devices - shows youre getting something for you money
because i am a realist, although one day i may be brainwashed by the proprangada i can then drool in the blissfull realisation everything is fine
because he doesnt have the light of Jesus Christ in his life
the more i chat in here the mroe i think i could make a killing if the fda would just approve my coin operated suicide booth
I don’t know if I would call you a realist….you’re a nihlist….are you offering any solutions or just complaining about the system? bI don’t know if I would call you a realist….you’re a nihlist….are you offering any solutions or just complaining about the system?/b
down you go!
Kalomine that is the first step to question it not blindly obey it what happens then not sure
whats the religious left, jesse jackson and a couple of episcople dykes?
you’re not questioning it…you’re simply whining
it’s not a big force i’d imagine
dont care much
Kalomine you are allowed to think and question these things, try it
hey guys i haven’t been following the whole politics thing but what group is that mark foley guy in
democrats
democatic or republicain
anything but the meth using megachurching homofaggous obese bible belt shit we’ve been under for 6 nyears
again, you’re stuck in your self absorbed “I’m the only one who see things as they are” mantra….
but i bet youre the type of person that is like a sheep being dipped, you just go along with it
k, so i should republician
yes
k
that was easy
no Kalomine but i refuse to blindly except things, should always question
you don’t know what I believe about many things but you have cast me as one of the “sheep” that you are grouping together in the brainwashed masses it’s okay not to blindly except things, but what do you believe?
