10.31.07

what happened to the good old days when elections were excuses to hold drunken barn dances and auction off your

Posted in Politics at 11:19 pm by Michael Johnson

ok, yeah thats what travel chan was barking about, i wanna say ~40,000USD for several hundred sqft

bud .. when we would go out there we would stay 1-3 months with them. I saw their water bill .. it was $500/mo. that or drink city water geeze .. after seeing that I drank every bit of water I took.

if its not city water.. what is it? like delivery?

i’ll market it as waterfront property on the river Kwai

no .. all water is piped in. But drinking water is delivered. That is $500/mo for drinking water.

i know how to turn almost anyone off of drinking municipal water in the USA and its nothing to do with any sewege stories or the like hehe

flouridation!!

anything they took from the pipes she boiled and put thru one of those water filters. There were always about 6-8 of those filters on the counter.

much much worse but ill spare ya Lupine| no no no eheh

she would use that water to wash their hair in and to cook with.

robbing us of our precious bodily fluids

at $500/month for drinking water.. i’ld rather just drink wine

wolfy .. you wouldn’t get very much wine for that

CometBaby how is HK for bringing in items like alcohol

I don’t know what they paid for electricity or for gas .. but she told me one time that I really didn’t want to know.

Wine and booze aren’t THAT expensive there…

that’s why the French drink wine

astro the wine they drank was it came from austrailia

when i was in France a bigass bottle of wine was like $2USD

and that was the GOOD stuff

champane like $1 champagne

australian wines are pretty reasonably priced here

we have some friends now .. not REAL CLOSE friends .. but they live in Paris now. She hates it there.

comet, you hear the rumor that gov. rounds would probably have appointed himself to fill johnson’s slot had been necessary?

i loved france but was nowhere near paris

do they live in the Paris Hilton?

they also pay a “fortune” for their apartment .. but she said it really sucks for what you get. They are very small and not very modern .. laid out really bad.

I could not stand such a living

first went to france as part of a school trip. we discovered 1) we could legally buy booze 2) it was cheap as dirt. bad bad

and most of the places she looked at didn’t even have elevators. You were expected to walk up 9-13 floors to get to the decent apartments.

I wish it were cheaper to have a decent glass of wine while eating out

Comet German apartments are much more modern becasue all of Paris’ were not destroyed by 1945

Lupine| i like countries where the norm is to bring your own booze to the restaurant bLupine| i like countries where the norm is to bring your own booze to the restaurant/b ubLupine| i like countries where the norm is to bring your own booze to the restaurant/b/u

merde

bud you would hate switzerland. They charge you for everything including the water.

its like Japanese steel industry vs US

australia is pretty much exclusively BYOB except for some very ritzy places

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_6163.aspx Traveller Watches Burglar Rob His House Over The Internet

and liquor stores are normally conviniently located next to all the eating places

compare a typical coke furnace in Pittsburg to one in Kobe

well, often I just want one glass :-/

aussies tend to be rather “casual” about most things

including their basic human rights.. oh, we dont need that one.. let’s just give it up..

Lupine| so you cork the remaining 1/2 bottle and be on your way with it

wolfy she hates it in Paris so much that she flies back to the states for 3-4 months at a time. They signed a two year contract and when that is up .. they will be getting the heck out of there.

Lupine|, nah, I think they can still buy beer on Sundays

I could see being in the country there.. but egads, not in the city.

they own a house in Philidelphia in the mtns somewhere. She goes there for long periods of time.

Comet Berkshires?

CometBaby gotta be nuts living anywhere remotely big-city there with all the horrible social experiments they got going

pil I don’t know exactly where. Its not too far from Hershey tho.

I live in a smallish city and would prefer a small town of less then 1000 Comet I knew that area but I knew it from a time….before you were born love

a nice place to stay in coastal france would be excellent, wouldnt wanna deal with life in any of the big cities there

INDIANAPOLIS — More than 160 people claim they became ill after eating at an Olive Garden restaurant last weekend, health officials said Friday. bud` my grandfather, who visted Normandy/etc about every other year.. said that around there, and in the smaller northern villages.. the French people still are grateful for the American’s.

im avoiding lettuce until they get the b.s. figured out. they’re spraying entire fields with contaminated water probably

pilgrim has been channeling 1824 again

probably

ouch

pil .. hehe

more senseless than I already am?

I just know there are some mtns in the area .. she has invited me to come out and spend some time with her when she is there with her 3 kids. She said we would go horseback riding, and visit Hershey PA which is not too far from her.

yea, no kidding

the French I’ve met have generally been nicer than I was prejudiced to think

am I remembering correctly? or is 1824 the year on the Mexican flag?

Parisians are nice in the off-season; can’t comment on the summer ‘cuz I haven’t been there during that time yet

I *think* she said the pacona mtns .. not sure

I simply can not comprehend living in a city where they still have animal feces in teh streets.

but some towns in the south… you get a lot of jerks

poconos

wikipedia says 1821 … sorry yep

well.. i do not think he ever was able to buy anything in France.. everywhere.. people would insist on buying his meals, etc.

Poconos

lemme think….Zakary Taylor iirc

she really likes it there .. said it is very peaceful. It is a vacation home that they have there.

pilgrim remembers Zachary Taylor Catskills

Lupine| the places I’ve been to every person was very polite and welcoming, as you move inland tho, things change, get worse and wors

my uncle owns a hell of alot of property in the Dakota’s.. we keep trying to convince him to build a nice ranch out there my uncle owns a hell of alot of property in the Dakota’s.. we keep trying to convince him to build a nice ranch out there

wolfy where at? what part?

yes, he can build it one month at a time in the summer

Contract WITH America

oh … yeah …

Oc kknew that

;-) right wink, wink .. noodge noodge

Zachary Taylor?

yup

guess I missed the context there… he seldom comes up in conversations

gained presidency due to PR from his participation int eh Mexican War

wolfy .. south dakota is very cold in the winter and very hot and dry in the summer. In many parts it is still quite remote.

Tippecanoe and Tyler too!

North dakota is worse

ND put the buffalo on the quarter which ain’t worth a plug nickle

oh yeah…Hero of Monterrey and Buena Vista…showed Santa Ana the door, etc etc

thats it MEx war ain’t my forte`

Ole Tippecanoe was WH Harrison…

pilgrim` are you in WA?

oddly, both died in office…

have to run .. bbl

longest acceptance speech, shortest presidnecy

sounds like washington getting a storm beating

matter of fact the speech Harrison gave probably kileld him it was during a very cold day

yep..and he spoke without wearing a coat during a steady cold rain

yeah

geezer got the flux

wich shows he had the typical level of good judgement needed and represented by those elected to the highest office int he land

and was then succeeded by “His Accidency”…

like…..Harding? it was the Oysters ya know

right

quick creamtion, no post mortem… but some would call that a tempest in a teapot

never eat oysters in a month without an R

DeDannan that is sooooo old… and few recall it these days

A study of thousands of men and women revealed that those who stick to a vegetarian diet have IQs that are around five points higher than those who regularly eat meat.

hehe

cough *bullshit*

sickly looking vegetarians

oops lol heh

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23378331-details/Vegetarians+are+more+intelligent%2C+says+study/article.do

call any vegetable what?

Steve Jobs is a vegge and it ill respond you would ned to hear it

one would think 5 points would be statistically insignificant…

i think the fact that we all have incisors to tear meat, lowers thier intelligents 25% atleast.

one wonders who funded the study

Fuck it I would rather enjoy a nice rare steak than join Mensa anyways.

As many people have already realized, this finding is skewed. If the study was broken down according to level of education, I’m sure we would find that in the college graduate group we would see more vegetarians. This also ties in with the added expense of healthy eating. Among lower income or education, I think intelligence would cease to be a factor in vegetarian diet. — Neal, Norfolk, VA USA

long pork it depends. does he include lard to go as meat…that is : typical Big Mac

big mac. apply directly to your ass. big mac. apply directly to your ass.

Besides have you actually tried tofu? How can you willingly eat that foul shit and claim to be more intelligent?

I had a veggie GF once. months of the most wretched diet I have ever experienced

tofu’s quite good actually

give me fried lard on a stick any day

mmm. american bald eagle steaks. baby seal veal

I just don’t get how someone managed to fuck up perfectly good beans enough to make them curd up.

spotted owl with snail darter on the side

ill have the smoked giant panda brisket

I bet pandas taste cute.

george bush for 3rd term presidency im with it

americans deserve him

it might happen come on zor why so negative

if you want a conspiracy about it… i hear he can suspend the elections and choose to stay in office

mMMMm… fresh made belgium waffles..

zor thats nonsense that won’t happen

if some kind of bioterror or bird flu epidemic happens

lol

FEMA is a shadow government, who can declare martial law and sieze power..

I hear a lot of crazy stuff, best not to take it at face value.

FMEA is the great thtreat to our liberty!!

well he passed some new powers to that effect.

politics is more of a threat Politics ruins our country

is off grid. Power is out in his town FEMA is the pencil to fill out the form for your own hanging

Lupine| FEMA put mercury in the water bottles they gave to kids so they would be autistic so they can later collect them and have a super army of psychic warriors. It’s true. Kos said so.

Chrono lmao stop thats nonsense

You’re right it is, the would need a lot more people to have an army.

Fema experimented with RFIDs but unfortunatley the distribution was handeld by fed beuracrats so they screwed it up

Maybe just a battalion.

daymn you guys read to much bullshit

those _evil_ FEMAL trailor managers.. kicking people out after TWO YEARS to find a new home? my gawd.. the inhumanity!

for real the journalists are ruining your minds

RFIDs are freaking awesome. I want to get my hands on a few.

RFID lol

I have a readerr

Yes RFIDs, do you for some strange reason doubt they exist or something?

what is interesting is how far away ot detects

http://space.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18524911.600 pilgrim` and that’s without a boosting amplifier ;-)

Lupine its a store wand

man this war could easily have been won if we put more troops on the ground thats how simple this war would of been

Number 14) fat chicks with babies, really, who is hittin that donkey?

The 10 most dangerous play things of all time http://www.radarmagazine.com/features/2006/12/toys.php

Seriously what kind of retarded kid died from lawn darts, we had them, no injuries at all.

During their brief (and generally awesome) reign in 1980s suburbia, Jarts racked up 6,700 injuries and four deaths. In 1951, A.C. Gilbert introduced his U-238 Atomic Energy Lab, a radioactive learning set we can only assume was fun for the whole math club.

or is lying, Bush can not assume a 3rd presidency no matter what. And he didnt pass anything to that effect and even if he had of which he didnt it would have no effect of law, its a constitutional issue. and even if if it werent it would be a congressional issue.

HAHAHAHHAH

It would blow minds today that we were allowed to play with guns when we were kids.

The President can not and has no desire nor intention to serve a 3rd term.

it would require a constitutional amendment

freetrade i was kidding :P

no more, no less

What kind of Rubbish do people come up with..

Sure we had to master being responsible with a pump bb gun, then a pellet gun, then a 410, but still.

Pauliee was that you ? I thought it was some guy named zor

lol not it was just me messin around

Ok it was making fun of the conspiracists, I got cha.. Sad thing is some people actually believe that crap..

see i don’t believe it but i wouldn’t mind it.

Mini-hammocks seemed innocuous enough. No projectiles, no lead paint, no sharp edges, and no explicit danger (except sloth). But between the years of 1984–1995 the EZ Sales mini-hammock, oft marketed under the name “Hang Ten,” managed to hang 12.

LOL They arrested the lead singer of Phish near me, figures they snagged him for hydrocondone, Xanex and percocet……dumb ass, should have stuck with pot, almost no fine for weed, he’ll probably do life for prescription drugs

hai

I had guys who said clinton was going to suspect the constitution on Y2k and martial law and that the Blue helmuts (UN) were going to cease control of the USA.. What idiocy. And it was a regular here on the far right who a lot of guys liked. Hey Timur..

FreeTrade well, at least we no longer are flooded by peeps claiming FEMA=greatest threat to american liberty anymore

lol clinton was the best speaker ever

At the time I called it our as silly and I also said that Y2k would have almost no effect on anything and it didnt. . Lupine. Sadly the world is full of people who insist fiction is more palatable to their minds than reality, They wouldnt do it if it didnt fullfill some psychologically perverse need.

reality and fiction = religion

With their new Sky Dancer, they would be the first toy company to combine the sparkly femininity of Barbie with the firepower of a bottle rocket.

suspect =suspend the constitution. In a banana republic you can suspend the constitution like allende did in Chile.. In the USA there is no way in hell its one of the most referred documents to americans that exists.

i thought banana republic was a store i shop there sometimes

referred revered

so what about torture?

very expensive though

It is that too ;

seems to me Bush pretty much ignored the US constitution there.

zor thats a good thing whether u like it or not

Its also a term referring to latin american dictatorships and governments which change governments monthly or 3rd world is it ? Anyway same diff

shows we got an agressive president with balls

you’re a vile person if you think so.

who gets things done

FT hai asl ?

yea and terrorists aren’t?

yea.. women in bikini’s serving prisoners their lunch.. the agony!

i might be vile but i’m no terrorist

It was a term used much more in the 70s and 80s than it is used today.

i believe in taking action not sitting back

Hey Timr!

torture doesn’t produce actionable intelligence that isn’t better achieved through investigative means. Both CIA and FBI agree on this.

sitting back is ok if they are small issues Zor if you really believe that your out of your mind

also innocent

So Zor was serious ?

http://www.poststar.com/articles/2006/12/15/news/doc4582cf8e32cc1481881595.txt

you know how many attacks were stopped due to torture

So I was correct ?

haha you put a broom stick up my ass im talking

He really believes Bush is going to try to have 3 terms ?

about what?

and thats the bottom line

actually, that is an old wives tale.. but thanks for playing

free tride smartin up

no I don’t, but he has a good chance if he wanted.

i said bush will have 3 terms but i was kidding

albeit it would have to be some kind of military dictatorship and probably not all of USA would play along.

If so hes a complete conspiracy freak, its impossible unless the pesident elect died just before taking office then it would be a very temporary staying in office till congress could settle it, its never happened in history. No he has no chance. There is no chance for Bush to have 3 terms. None Not even if we are attacked in a war on our soil By CHINA and RUSSIA together..

naw.. the chain of succession would still be followed/intact

he does have a chance, but it would require Bush getting the congress assassinated

Unless it became impossible to hold elections.

I gotta admit if it take stick a broomstick up someone’s ass to save thousands of americans then so be it. hell i would volunteer my own ass.

And he didnt pass anything giving him the power to cease a 3rd term while he has been in office so thats a lie too.

yea, if bush nuked 99.99% of americans, he can claim to be “president”.. lol.. meanwhile, stop blowing it out your ass.

I mean really I don’t give a crap about those prisoners on some sort of sudden moral standing.

Lupine, pretty much yes.

I care about the people i love first and foremost.

There could be some outragous situation beyond the presidents control which could hold him over a month or two.

you guys need to stop talking from a political view when approaching terrorists for information

but no way could he server a 3rd term.

Quiet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ice cream.

you do what you have to, to get that information no matter what

ice cream is good

this i agree with bush on

digital voting systems.. also in congress.

Our government structure is extremely stable, Its is impossible for one individual to assume such power in this country, since Hoover died

geneva conventions is full of shit man put me in a room wiht terrorists

I’d like to see Bush try

Zor, Bush cant run again.

ill put each tooth 1 by 1 untill that fuck talks

And there is nothing wrong with the digital voting its probably more accurate than paper

i don’t get the digital voting systems complaint thing, because paper ballots have never been tampered with.

lol, you don’t follow the issues then

Chrono, You dont get it because you are intelligent, simple as that.

there’s clear fraud related to digital voting

hey a few weeks ago someone found a bunch of old discarded ballot boxes out in cali i think it was.

Zor, I follow them as much as anyone here and more than most. I am the GOD of politics, national and international

so what happened to that guy who voted himself + 8 of his friends but got flat zero?

I like ice cream but some people who eat it are liberals it makes me sad!

Xor, the federal government says there isnt, and a bi partisan commission approved it.

stuffed full of ballots it they were, the funny part is they couldn’t tell if it was stolen ballots or fake ballots that someone planned on planting but wussed out of.

Timur-, its ok..they probably eat the flavors nobody else likes

yeah like baby flavor bastards!

I’d say that case is clear proof of fraud. and that means your voting systems aren’t reliable.

If one side or th eother thought votes were being stolen electronicall I assure you democrats or republicans would not have approved the new system.

and that somebody is fucking with them.

zor You dont even understand voting.

so you claim he is lying with his 8 friends?

voting methods of every sort are subject to fraud. The reason we have confidence in our system is the odds of the degree of fraud required to turn an election is low.

9 people voted for him out of a several hundred thousand other people, yeah sorry they wouldn’t both reporting .000001 of the vote.

and it has legal remedies for such cases.

lol

gee you’d think voter fraud was a new phenomenon the way folks go on about it…

And our system has never in our history nor has any other system in the world been perfect, we factor in the statistical science that errors are mostly going to be distributed evenly with no biad.

when you go digital there’s no evidence. no recourse.

bias

just like they don’t report it when jackasses like me write in mickey mouse when they don’t want either canidate, and i’m sure a lot more people vote for old mickey than those 9 jackasses.

Only in cases of direct fraud which are usually small and subject to legal action, is it not randomly assigned.

what happened to the good old days when elections were excuses to hold drunken barn dances and auction off your vote to the highest bidder?

And yes there is fraud in every election probably in the entire history of elections in the USA

These “Joy Brigades,” as they are called, are basically employed as sexual party favors. He is alleged to have told the male guests at one of his parties that they were entitled to any of the girls they could catch. This is purported to have turned into a scene of intoxicated older men chasing teenage girls all over Kim’s seven-story “pleasure palace.”

from my pov, you’re a banana-dictatorship with the “exit polls are unreliable” explanations for discrepancies

Wow, your point of view is fucking retarded.

when it comes to elections, yours are on the same level.

But again the confidence in the system is based on the fact that fraud is usually not that significant, and errors are usually distributed statistically scientists will tell you the odds of mistakes distribution to say a party would be almost exactly even

Zor where are exit polls typically taken? at the main city (read democrat) precincts or the rural (read gop) precincts?

In other words errors would aid democrats and republicans more or less equally based on scientific principles.

Heh I’ve never seen an exit poller and I live and vote in the state capital.

Chrono-Z company i work for does them

Again these are normal mistakes, not intentional fraud which is prosecuted. And more democrats were busted for fraud than republicans which makes your Bush conspiracy even less likely.

Chrono-Z: yeah, I hear you stopped taking them due to them being so unreliable. Still the rest of the world seems to consider them a reliable indicator for the fairness of the elections. exit polls don’t lie when there’s no fraud

Zor, if thats your view of america your a stupid idiot and thats not ad hom its a fact.

FT I been saying that for weeks

Stopped taking them? I’ve never come across one at any place i’ve voted at since i started voting which was before Bush. So that really makes no sense.

For one thing you were too dumb to listen to what I said, some fraud has occured in every election as have accidental irregularities and mistakes.

http://www.verifiedvotingfoundation.org/article.php?id=6418

Zor, exit polls like all the time..

Zor as someone in the industry so to speak, I can assure you exit polls are a pretty shitty way of getting an idea what a state is voting. depending on the demographics, different ’sides’ of the election are more likely to vote early, vote absentee, vote at a church in some remote town vs. vote at a city courthouse etc

only in places where there’s organized fraud

But hey if it was up to me everyone would have a national id that would be required to be displayed when we voted, but that will never happen.

This was clear in 2000 when a solidly republican states exit polls indicated democrats were winning, when the votes came in as pre polling suggested and as common sense suggested the rpeublican won (VA) and noone questioned the accuracy of the voters in VA, Noone did. What they found is exit polling was flawed, either by some people giving false answers or some people being more likely to want to talk to exit pollsters and even the bias of who the exit pollster might choose to question.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0411/S00140.htm

you would need to send 10 interviewers to 10 different towns for every 1 interviewer you send to a large city precinct

bud`: why is it then that USA refused international inspectors for their elections?

Some years exit polling can be pretty accurate some years its terribly inaccurate, think about it, what is is is based on interviews of voters.. its not based on votes.

scoop.nz lol, some pretty crappy vullshit has come out of that

hahahahaha\

Zor that would be up to States, not ‘USA’

I wouldn’t tell them how i voted, it’s none of their damn business.

you have a very weird definition for what an exit poll is

The US has more scrutiny over its voting than probably any system in the world. Zor, What do you think an exit poll is ? Its an interview of someone who just voted and comes out

people asking who you voted for outside the election office

and gives an interview to an exit pollster. Doh And its not an election office its a polling precinct.

I routinely lie to pollsters….

Zor can you comprehend anything ive explained to you? or are you just trolling

You dont even know the terminology

there’s no need to answer pollsters.

Ded, I might lie too it depends.. I mean in my city it could effect my business. The answers I gave

FT, I just do it for fun

ok bai

if it was found out that ABC construction was a war monger it could look very bad

bud`: http://blackboxvoting.org/ i’ve read stuff from there.

Zor as have we all

Ded, thats a good reason too

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/10/17/163140.shtml accusations of voter fraud/south dakota

it’s got me convinced your elections are pretty shitty

Zor, dont trust urls..

now, Zor, dedicate equal time to sites debunking that one

“Who did you vote for sir?” Me: “Estes Kefauver!”

you might gain some knowledge

bud`: at least they have good verifiable sources

Look a bi partisan committee established rules for voting since 2000 when it was so close. and most of those were not electronic votes..

but rather I am sad that you people don’t see a need for a reliable voting system

But they agreed upon a system for electronic machines, the source code must be in escrow and federal inspectors must certify machines, test them analyze them and certify them these are top rated computer security experts and coders.

and are happy to work with a corrupt and broken one that enables anonymous fraud

well, see, thats not fact, thats your opinion

well that’s my impression yes.

simple solution…abolish the secret ballot

and we can sit here all day and refute your garbage but i dont think you care

typically republicans who dont’ want a new system. or a reliable one no papertrail that can be used to verify, especially.

Zor I voted with scantron this year

A friend of mine with over 15 years experience in computer security and this guy is a genius when it comes to coding.. He told me these conspiracies were crap and he said that has some of the results alleged by conspiracists been true Bush would actually have gotten 500 more votes or so in Florida, And this friend of mine is not a republican or Democrat, hes very much an independent who at times I think cant stand either party.

I have had to do source code escrow before

wow, are you pulling shit our your ass so fast

I thought it was stupid at the time and I did not charge near enough for it but I had to do it to sell the work

Zor do you know what scantron is?

In florida, the majority of districts to switch over to electronic voting were… strongly democratic districts.

scantron is a city in pennsylvania

but hey, what do you care about facts.

++ Yogurt Boi =P

DeDannan watched The Office too much.

all the more easy to change their votes for the republicans

Chrono-Z, never seen an episode

If you had a major anomaly tehn the source code would be reverse engineeded and if something wrong was found they would lose the multi millions they make making polling machines and ATM machines, and they would go to prison probably forever.

hah my mistake then

yea.. Democrats want to change votes to GOP.. *rolls eyes*

couldn’t fraud enough

but “divining the intention of the voter” by looking at dimpled chads.. why.. THAT is acceptable

We can detect anomalys, Ok In Florida north, there was a democratic areas which overwhelmingly voted for Bush, this was alleged as fraud.

it’s only safe to fraud within the error limits usually 2-3%

When they examined historical voting records of this region they had also voted for republicans, it was a region of blue dog democrats, democrats who often vote for Republicans.

Zor, so this “fraud” you keep talking about…that’s something new right? something that’s just been going on since Dubya got elected?

So they had suspicions they looked into it and they found it was not what it appeared to be..

FreeTrade they are registered dems from birth

i still just can’t belive you think exit polls are more accurate when a lot of people don’t even take then and by choice of them just not being there and those that do lie for the fun of it it just doesn’t make any damn sense at all

Bud, family tradition determines 80% of party affiliation

well I’m just noting the guy who voted himself for the mayor in the small town should have gotten his own vote + 8 of his friends instead of the ZERO

man it confuses the hell out of me when we do polls in some states, you get registered dems who are straight up and down conservative on every issue

does not compute, cannot devide by zero

ony I had a democrat and a republican parent I was a libertarian first.

that’s your reliable DIGITAL voting

before anything else.

that kind of error is impossible unless somebody built in code for fraud

Zor, sounds like a problem in that small town…extrapolating that to a national level is a nice illustration of a false syllogism, but that’s about it…

or because it kicks out the 9 votes when the other ones tally up to a few thousand because it is insignificant.

DeDannan he’s probably just pulling more shit out of his ass

Zor, noone here is denying that election fraud happens nor that occiassionaly an election has been stolen but the risk is virtually impossible to eliminate. its based a system which cant be made perfect.

that entire system is unreliable, wherever it is deployed

Zor, and you know this how exactly?

that practical example of fraud doesn’t convince you?

Zor what entire system? it differs from county to county. do you have any clue how many diff systems there are?

it would help if it was practical

hardly…

bud`: i know there’s several.

so again…

several? can you name… 3?

Zor, and you know this how exactly?

US-Male is here to bitchslap you

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/BBVtsxstudy.pdf

several? can you name… 3?

You what the real problem with voting is, it’s not the machines and the extremely thin chance that something is wonky with them vs a paper ballot, it’s the shitty selection of canidates.

c’mon i can do it without even having to venture outside my areas diff. systems

mmm breakfast

bud` dear, i’m not here to talk models or the 20 questions.

US-Male is a logger-headed, onion-eyed ruffian

indeed !

I feel like i’m voting for a lawyer/business man or a business man.lawyer

Zor your the one who claimed ‘the entire system’ while not having a clue about it/them

bud`: that particular system

DeDannan wears an imitation pregnancy tummy to empathize with expectant mothers.

I agree with deed on this exactly, That this happens in a town of 5000 is one thing, but to suggest that nationally its so prevalent as to change an election. Sure its possible if you recounted every vote in america in 2000 Gore might have won by a small margin or Bush might have won by a larger margin as pre election polls predicted. But the point is we americans strongly support the 2 candidates and if we split down the middle

bwhaha

bud`: i OBVIOUSLY didn’t mean other models.

It demonstrates the will of the people was split statistically 50/50

Zor obviously, you werent even aware of them

And you go with the polls you have. unless you can prove significant fraud.

bud`: how so? I said I was.

bud`: why is it then that USA refused international inspectors for their elections?

also that

bud`: you’re kind of famous for having tons of shitty systems for voting there

US-Male, what imitation?

it’s …… real ?

And besides ultimately the State legislatures have the right to determine the elections But its a testiment to our system that people in both parties honor the electoral system and vote the general will of the state population. in theory they dont have to.

Zor some counties are retarded yes, and i wont mention any ones in Florida or anything

US-Male, I’ll never tell

“Ah thought you was a dude”

Zor, what fucking country are you from ?

US-Male, I is…its just a beer gut ya flannel mouthed floozie!

hahah

http://www.meer.net/~fairelection/PressRoom/pr_gx5.htm Election Officials in Ohio and Florida Refuse Poll Access to International Observers there.

So how do they vote in what ever little middle of no where place you are from Zor?

Zor if my county clerk/recorder wanted to have some foreigners observing our polls Im sure there wouldnt be a problem, it’s nothing to do with the ‘USA’

international media mistakes DNC election trolling for actual reality

Zor your in finland ? Where the population is smaller than the metropolitan area I live in ? Please think consider 300 million people in a nation that is a HUGE nation. We are like 4th in the world or 3rd I forget

election officals, you mean those nice old ladies who point me to which machine to use? Please.

they have people in Finland now ?

Those evil old schemeing bats!

India China, Amercia I think.. who else is bigger than America population wise ? And when you have a nation of 300 million voting you can not have perfection in voting

India had more reliable elections than you

Oh god Please

they had a verifiable digital system

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