10.23.07

how about showing the precious admins incometence and the dems in the senate giving the threat to revoke there

Posted in Politics at 4:03 pm by Michael Johnson

altho they say the people on the challenger may have been consious when they hit the water

Yeah but you choose to sit on it It’s not like you find that in nature

yes well nor do you airplanes , motorcycles, skis all are high risk

Not that high I find it hard to compare the shuttle with a motorcycle

I am not saying the heart wouldnt be pounding but if there was a way I could I would not really man dead is dead and I know quite a few people who have passsed on motorcycles as in know personally and in most cases it was not thier fault

Goood morning

doesnt stop me from ridin gmine but it does make you think good morning loco

these images of the launch is pretty cool

taior I wont say the risk is extremely high but the rewards are just as great .. I could not imagine the feeling of looking at earth from space. There have been a few times I have seen the moon look simply undescribeable

is = are

agreed i like that angle

especially right now when it seperates

yup almost 17000 mph

that is very cool

yeah man

What happens to the tank? Burns up?

hehe very cool stuffs yup

have you ever watched the camera on the solid rocket booster from launch to the point where it splashes down

In summer 2006, an Iranian political group called the Union of Islamic Student Societies revealed that it was planning on entering the video-game business.

the 2 solid rocket boosters fall back into the ocean and they’re recovered/repaired/reused the external tank burns up

In the game, American troops kidnap an Iranian nuclear engineer who is traveling through Iraq en route to a Shiite holy shrine in Karbala, and Bahman must then cross the border to battle U.S. Special Forces and rescue the scientist, thereby ensuring the success of Iran’s undoubtedly peaceful nuclear energy program. haha, yeah, undoubtedly peaceful :-)

did you see the video of the last launch?

the one on nasa.gov yeah

the video on the solid rocket boosters as they came down and hti the ocean was pretty damn cool too the stuff we can see now thanks to the technology is neat

i recenty saw one where you saw the cam of the solid rocket booster on its way back down ,,, chute depolyes and slashdown http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/52884 slow ass load but a few cool clips

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

best to save then watch once completed

its like rainnnnnn on ur wedding day its the free ride when u already paid

nothing is free there is a price for everything

even love thats what the song says.. for nathalie

ha

see

ho

ha

you know what i’ve noticed lately

?

that when i do google searches of non specific thngs (like “QUEEN” (the band)), i get mostly crap sites

hi tigress

lot of foreign sites, and mostly businesses

hi tigress

ya know I notied that too

L0c0 what kind of queens are you searching for

oh, 6′3, small adams apple haha j/k

hahah how about Ann Coulter! rimshot

ha

somebody on another chatroom mentioned “the unobtainable royal collection” or something just curious what it was haha

ann coulter … Paris Hiltons mom …

you ever see my zombieCoulter pic?

both look ethiopian

why not ask them, L0c0?

sorry did not mean to incite a coulter-wave ;P it was jut an easy cheap shot

ha

coulter is a trigger for libs

hehhe

ha I am not a lib but I dont like coulter

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/pfjunkie/crypt-coulter-a.jpg

she reminds me a bit of my x wife

hmm… i’ve noticed that libs don’t admit they’re libs

b/c knowing the idiots on the chatroom its probably pirated or some kind of bootleg collection

bill don’t judge me you have no fucking clue who I am

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/pfjunkie/anne001.jpg

oh man L0c0 that’s scary

voted republican all my life

she’s got ugly gross hands that’s what gave me the idea hehe

my statements have been general. i haven’t said anything specifically about you

id hit it

back off

own plenty firearms anti abortion pro the elimination of the radical islamofacists or whatever one would like to call them the towelhead cowards who kill civilians

Ahh yes, the cheap shots at Coulter…

commies!

but i still tink coulter is a skank

the wind powered car: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/pfjunkie/windmillcar.jpg

think I said

but you’re beginning to look like a troll to me

just the condescending “sp” attitude i dont dig it

/ignore Fretless

ha do as you choose no troll been here longer than I can remember bill is the only one who ever has had a problem

commiepalooza

dont make genralizations pointed at someone if you cant take some heat

im listening now to that song.. born in usa

“the boss”

He’s not my boss

ha

generalizations ‘pointed’ at someone? get a clue

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/pfjunkie/jjgs.jpg

right after we were making comments i simply made it clear I am far from liberal

I will turn this car around right now…..

just put me on ignore and move on thanks

its a picture of my dad’s dad. only the 3rd of him i’ve ever seen. it was in a book put together by some civic group down in South texas of soldiers returning from WWII tripp anyway

well im off to the beach for a bit I just wanted to see the launch laters

i knew he was in the military b/c i knew the story of the japanese sword

laters

but had never seen a pic of him in uniform

L0c0 wasn’t that guy on “Welcome Back Kotter” ?

so my dad’s dad is somewhere in the pacific, a captured officer gives him his swords (2, large one and small one)

hey where is Austin ?

when he got back, he gave the larger sword to my dad and the smaller one to my uncle so ’round 1976, my dad shows the sword to his brother-in-law (my uncle) who’s like 17 at the time he asks if he can show it to a friend…takes it and pawns it off to buy weed the other sword is w/ my uncle (my dad’s brother). he’s got 1 son that’s a total fuckup and would probably do the same so i’m hoping my dad can convince my uncle to give me the sword…would make a very trippy family heirloom wierd story, sorry so Mullah Omar is believed to be in Pakistan. is Pakistan gonna cooperate and help find him, or give him amnesty? so Mullah Omar is believed to be in Pakistan. is Pakistan gonna cooperate and help find him, or give him amnesty? bso Mullah Omar is believed to be in Pakistan. is Pakistan gonna cooperate and help find him, or give him amnesty?/b bso Mullah Omar is believed to be in Pakistan. is Pakistan gonna cooperate and help find him, or give him amnesty?/b ubso Mullah Omar is believed to be in Pakistan. is Pakistan gonna cooperate and help find him, or give him amnesty?/b/u

heheh

The trip (to Iran) “is to confirm the establishment of friendly and balanced relations based on common interest and respect of the sovereignty of the two countries without any interference in internal affairs,” the statement (by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki) said. how can we be firm on iran w/ iraq trying to be all friendly

semi-witty…. literally halfwitted! omg

Violence averted at Iraq festival — http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5329684.stm

Iraq as a whole was never a big problem until Saddam came along

Thousands of police and soldiers were deployed to guard sites and deter possible attackers. No major security incident was reported.

the only thing about Saddam that was remotely positive, was that he prevented the new violent radical Islamist dipshits from taking over Iraq like they seem to be in so many other areas of the mideast

4mil people expected

usmale had an epiphany i think

nah, very old news

US-Male: the guy had too big and ego and was way to selfish and arrogant to allow anything that could be turned into a power share

I don’t know if those Islamic dipshits are really making progress within the Islamic community, I think they are losing influence as time goes by.

prevented? yes, stalin style

so far pretty much the only form of govt most mideast natiuons can handle without being terrorists — is a kingdom and without being Saddamized

usmale they can be colonies

which is just as bad

with Saddam as your leader, violent radical Islamists might seem an improvement

yep we will see if some form of democracy can take hold

nah I have no hope for democracy in the middle east any time soon

I think it will, I doubt the people over there are as stupid as the left wants us to believe.

hopefully, they’ll hold their democracy

I think it just takes time

I wouldn’t say stupid… I’d say ignorant

and consistent approach

I saw an old lady praising god for the Americans setting her free on the Army news report the other day.

but I’ll retain judgement until things have time, sure

it will take decades

Yeah but there are a lot of positive signs already

in time usmale will grow up

well if the Russians and Chinese would get serious about Iran it would help the process

Those guys in the Iraqi government are good

redfish, never

usmale you cant be a toys r us kid forever

Barring Al Sadr’s crowd

redfish I can too !

from bikes to planes to video games it’s the biggest toy store there is!

anyway a necessary thing, even when it takes a long time — just means you need to start now

usmale wishes he were in neverneverland

redfish still gets “payments” from Neverland I think the “fundamentals” in Iraq point to eventual success I don’t think they wanted Saddam, except for his toadies

I wonder if the theocracies in the middle east will ever let Iraq or any other country attain democratic stability would see to me they’d view it as a threat

just basic common sense, who would want a dictator who ran rape rooms and murders anyone who questions anything? a gy like that rules by fear

What theocracies do we really have other than Iran?

rape factories are more efficient than rape rooms

unfortunately, Iranian style theocracy is just as dangerous as Saddam but this is what happens with any power vacuum

redfish used to meet with Saddam in the Persian Gulf

those were my halycon days

haha

halcyon

redfish lived in Days of Yore

usmale has been trying to stalk lonelygirl15

keep away from her, she’s mine

mubarak, we’ve given you time after time to prove that yer worthy

I’d argue that Saudi is theocratically driven

redfish runs a “grope room” in San Diego

though not a technical theocracy

and you’ve just let us down, harder eacher time as mr trump would say it “you’re fired!” heh

there got my helmet

usmale abducts women, strokes their hair, and lets them go

hahah redfish has an “upskirt” website and he gets pictures from church with a little camera on his shoe

Fish don’t wear shoes, he’s taking those shots under water!

he calls it “upriver” upstream so the fish lives in….. a toilet ?

woah… Louisiana purchase was 4 times the amount of land than Alaska

He has access, it’s a tough swim against the flush, but he can get in there!

redfish runs a toiletcam website

usmale planned on becoming a supervillain, his schtick would be to have a beluga whale as a sidekick and he would swallow people. when usmale finally got the beluga whale to follow orders he realized the whale couldnt move around on dry land

Alaska is the largest state in the United States in terms of land area (it is larger in area than all but 18 of the world’s nations) daaayumnn

the only problem he has are, the lighting ….. and of course, keeping his lens clean redfish is partially evolved, and wears tiny shoes

hi

where are you from?

lebanon

i am from serbia

i am from womb

nice to meet u

usmale wears womens earrings

where is womb….

nice to meet u to

redfish wears men’s earrings

womb is where we are all from!

didnt you have war once in serbia??

yes in 1999

between muslims and christians?? or no?

kako si zex+)

dobro je brate srbine

i dont understand ur language sorry talk english here … respect others

ok

fine fine

:o)

its been a LONG LONG time since i typed serbian i almost said “Jebem si” hahahah

where are you from rusty

zex1, so what’s the answer to her question?

Go Miners! er sorry wrong channel

i forgot that meant “Fuck you” though hahah

forget it tailaor

I am from upstate NY

tailor.. u r a newyorker..

yes war was between bad people

hmmmmm

?

sometimes good ppl are fighting if the bad attacks you.. you should defend urself

zex you in Beograd?

onlu sometimes no i am from the small town Cacak

that day i saw on TV something about serbia

what

program about ppl lots their kids.. but it wasnt in english..

so what are you thinking about serbian people

i’ve never met any but sure they are nice people

Serians are cool… they helped our down pilots during WW2

President’s Radio Address — http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060909.html

my grandfather helped them

ohh cool well thank you

i must go ! bye bye to all

takecare

i will

hrmmm Jugoslavia?

who

zex1

hmmm.. can anyone explain how exposing seeds to space helps increase yield? yeh Cry he was from Cacak, central cerbia serbia

I can;t…not offhand..unlessI had more specifics

China’s space seed experiments come as the nation seeks ways to feed its population amid a rapid decline in farming land due to swift industrialization. Cry, seems like the radiation of space would sterilise them if anything else

oh man, i know what i want for christmas http://www.blackanddecker.com/ProductGuide/Product-Details.aspx?ProductID=9867

Google has a searchable news archive database now, going back to pre-20th century

there has to be something to it though

my neighbor just bought one and was using it to lop off a branch off a dead mulberry in his backyard

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean called on ABC/Disney to reveal who poured $40 million into the slanderous 9/11 propoganda film they plan to start airing slanderous hahahhaha Dean has probably not even seen the fucking movie

3.5″ branch…went clean through it. i did a smaller branch…that thing is nice. slices right through the street like a hot chainsaw through butter :-D that’s typical of a lot of people: they criticize and bitch and whine before even seeing a movie

“The fact that the writer/producer of the piece is a well known conservative raises additional concerns and questions. The American people deserve to know who funded this $40 million dollar slanderous propaganda. Use of the public airwaves is a privilege conferred upon broadcasters in the public interest. It comes with a responsibility to the American people and a responsibility to the truth.”

i remember when that shit happened when “Dogma” came out. catholic groups were protesting..hell, kevin smith even joined them aha

YEEEEEEEEEEEEAARRRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

stop yearghing

the slanderous 9/11 propoganda film?

in an otherwise good article, I’m confused about “Clinton’s artless equivocation on ‘The Path to 9/11″ http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,213040,00.html without guile or deception; without effort or pretentiousness; natural and simple; without skill or finesse misleading ambiguity; saying one thing and meaning another

hey Atha

dumb blundering and denial? heya CryHavoc

considering the ‘it’s too soon!’ comments, i suspect that the main thing is to keep 9/11 off everyone’s mind they don’t want anything shown that doesn’t blame Bush for 9/11

hahahah the dems are calling Path to 9/11 all lies, and then are claiming that Bush is whitewashing his own activities surrounding 9/11 classic

I’ve known writers and I’ve written, I can understand the seductiveness of a mellifluous phrase like ‘artless equivocation’ but the meaning doesn’t work

Rustyford…soe the dems and GOP point fingers at each other….. whats new…

“.Condoleezza Rice gets that fated memo about planes flying into buildings, and makes it very clear to anyone who’ll listen just how concerned President Bush is about these terrorist threats — despite the fact that we’re given little concrete evidence of the president’s concern or interest in taking action.” – The whitewash is so blinding that “Instead of offering us some indication of President Clinton’s earnest efforts to stop Osama bin Laden, we’re repeatedly treated to his most uneasy moments in the hot seat over Lewinsky, painting the president as a buffoon…”

Business as usual in DC Land

it’s been said that the film actually claims that the Monica Lewinsky bit was so overblown that Clinton was unable to do anything without looking like he was trying to change the subject, not that he was distracted

earnest efforts hahahha

but as some answers to the question “why was osama bin laden still around to mastermind 9/11 and anything else” the article is quite good

Clinton would not look like a buffoon … he would look like an amoral dotard

I see equivocation, I don’t see ‘artless’

there was so much ‘wag the dog’ commentary at the time of Monica

rustyford no its obvious bush wasnt concerned abotu planes flying into buildings rustyford and shame on them for portraying clinton in a light that isnt completely positive

no one could have forseen that

Bill there was enough to make a movie called that

i want to know why Sandy Berger had his pants stuffed with documents that he was trying to hide from the 9/11 commission

Sandy Burglar?

Clinton’s legacy will be a blue dress and an impeachment yes RF…think about it…. probably some damning evidence

not necessarily damning as to 9/11 perhaps just generally damning

damning anyways……and wanna bet he was told to do that?

i want to know what was in the documents he took out, and what was in the documents he planted

prb by…a Clinton?

CLEVELAND, Sept. 8 /U.S. Newswire/ — The Pilgrim Press, U.S. distributor of Canadian publisher CopperHouse, is pleased to announce that on Sept. 13, PBS will air Tavis Smiley’s interview with Amir Hussain, a Pakistani-born Canadian Muslim who is author of CopperHouse’s timely release Oil & Water: Two Faiths, One God (2006, ISBN 1-896836-82-8, 224 pages, softcover, $19.95), a book to help Christians understand Islam.

Clintons have loyal staffers

LOL!

whole clinton administration (and dems in general) have been in revision mode

Clinton himself wasn’t the only one to dodge a bullet his admin dodged quite a few as well

whats there to understand about Islam?

RustyFord…lol

][Hook][, read http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,213040,00.html and then consider the question of how damning, specifically, as to 9/11 — a little more information there

Insurgent fighters in a Taliban stronghold are on the verge of collapse in the face of an onslaught by NATO forces, said the commander of Canadian forces in southern Afghanistan. Back by air power, Canadian troops along with Afghan and U.S. reinforcements took turns moving through former insurgent outposts in the Panjwaii region.

RF preparing the US for the Muslim takeover of the EU and Canada

Canada doesn’t let very many Islamics in anymore lol and there are very few outside of GTA and Vancouver

they have enough to establish a breeding enclave….

www.nationstates.net / region “Pound Politics” … … join an help crush the nation of Saint Praxis

they will do to Canada what they are doing to the EU

][Hook][, lead paragraph: “If the worst criticism of President Bush is that he lied to us about Iraq, then we just got a whopping reminder of Bill Clinton’s extraordinary talents for deception.”

Libertine…wassup???

well he’s a lawyer, and a politician the worst amalgomation of lies possible =]

CryHavoc: Praxis Empire’s stats are getting scary. civil rights: unheard of / economy: good / political freedoms: some

err, amalgamation too

Turkish Cyprus Gov’t Dissolves After 4 MPs Resign

I think the author may have meant ‘effortless equivocation’ rather than ‘artless equivocation’ artless it’s not

Istanbul Police Capture 4 Al-Qaeda Suspects —- http://www.zaman.com/?bl=hotnews&alt=&trh=20060909&hn=36386

Clinton would have been all right if he’d kept his mouth shut. No one would have accused him

4 suspects PLUS two guns and explosive materials

yeah he was a fool (again)

Publius, hahahaha, i bet it was the 4mp’s that resigned in Cyprus!

“The Holy Empire of Saint Praxis is a small, environmentally stunning nation, renowned for its complete absence of social welfare. Its hard-nosed, hard-working population of 7 million are highly moralistic and fiercely conservative, in the sense that they tend to believe most things should be outlawed. People who have good jobs and work quietly at them are lauded; others are viewed with suspicion.”

Hitlery wouldn’t stand for silence

since when is there a turkish cyprus govt ?

she’s too keen on PR “damage control” tactics

RF LOL

no one but turkey recognizes such an entity.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,213040,00.html is actually very good in explaining how ‘the Clinton administration let Usama bin Laden slip through its fingers’ — not just that it did, but how

vas….Cyprus is under negotiation at the moment

its an eu member country.

Libertine..any idea who created that one?

Athaena i would like people to be reminded of the fact that Sudan OFFERED bin-Laden to the USA and Clinton DECLINED!

CryHavoc: dunno.

de sade

for some reason people forget that

I dont think anyone doubts that mistakes were made… pinning it specifically on Clinton would be like trying to attach a stick of butter to a teflon pan

CryHavoc: but i see you are using the death penalty.. for shame!

he’s one slippery fucker

Libertine…some people need to die….

has Clintoon ever heard of the saying “Methinks thou dost protest too much” ?

and I dont know that he deserves it “pinned on him”

he can be as slippery as he wants, it doesn’t matter — he still left his trail behind him

but worry not….

CryHavoc: whatever you do; never outlaw alcohol; it raises the crime rate ten fold.

anymore than Bush deserves to be the whipping boy for all problems

you bet…

all CLinton’s whining just makes him look worse

“I am Clinton, I am a political GOD, I can do no wrong!”

same for gamling

remember.. if it wasn’t for prohibition; John F. Kennedy would never have been elected… you think about that

we all know he made some mistakes — he only amplifies it by suppressing it

I’m much more angry about Waco ending in minimal investgations that led to no firings, no discipline, no nada

as soon as they give me an issue to do with firearms or drugs…I will be ok

there’s the middle ground, where the truth usually is located, between ‘pinning it on clinton’ and ‘bush deserves to the the whipping boy’

he should have stayed quiet this time, let the chips fall where they may

I want Clinton to answer the important questions in front of a camera what his exact roll was in the prevention of 9/11

Clintonistas deserve serious punishment for Waco jail time

RF…good luck brb

I like that term ‘Clintonistas’ — I wonder who first used it

Clinton isn’t going to say a damn thing, he’s a lawyer, he knows better.

probably

funny how this stuff about the abc movie is relavent and discussion worthy, but the recently (partly) declassified senate report on pre-war intelligence is dismissed by the administration as “old news”

Donkitistas

TheTailor i would still like to see him stumble all over himself and then watch the media “anti clintons” completely shred him

Clinton was an utter fool to suppress the movie

L0c0, if the report included an answer to why there was an Al Quaeda camp in northern Iraq it might be of interest

it looks like he’s covering something now

it’s going to air but most people don’t even know about the movie

but an “edited” version I doubt it was even any big deal before edit, after edit — we all know already

The religious fascism ruling Iran is the primary obstacle to peace and tranquility in this region of the world. The mullahs consider peace in the Middle East as the noose around their necks and are doing their utmost to obstruct and undermine it. http://www.maryam-rajavi.com/content/view/392/67/

“After reviewing thousands of pages of evidence, I voted for the conclusions that most closely reflect the facts in the report. Policy-makers seemingly discounted or dismissed warnings about the veracity of critical intelligence reports that may have served as a basis for going to war.”

hence, keeping his mouth shut would have been smarter

the whole thing is this, it was ULTIMATELY the Clinton administration who prevented us from getting Bin-Laden… that is unequivocally the truth

L0c0, yes, it’s the “seemingly” stuff that leads everyone to avoid the report. “could” “may” “seemingly”

Democrats only point out their slowness by saying Republicans “went to war too fast”

IF

Democrats are saying “you Republicans are too fast at hitting the problem”

to try and claim that George Tenet wasn’t a part of the Clinton administration is about as assinine as it gets

be slow like us, and ineffectual be weak

but we can’t look back at the administration’s fuckups and be critical of those nope we can’t

It’s like a union worker saying “yer makin us look bad!”

US-Male amen brother

slow down, sonny!

Klinton!

hrm.. pentagon released a report saying the civil war in iraq is getting worse.

typical, we were talking about Clinton and leave it to a lefty to start ranting about Bush’s problems and fuck ups deflect and spin

its not civil war…its just hightened in fighting

divide and conquer muhahahaha

Libertine, really? I doubt they say there is a civil war at all, because there isn’t one.

sway to the symphony of destruction!

TheTailor: sectarian violence then? heh

since Iraq took over its military 2 days ago, attacks have gone down

Libertine, do show where they call it a civil war.

this ABC thing was perfect timing…lets the spinmeisters deflect attention away from Iraq and other things that expose this administrations incompetence

L0c0, it depends on the meaning of the letters “ABC” hahahahah

TheTailor: dunno the exact wording they used; leave it at ‘fighting’ if you like, terms don’t mean much when we argue about to what to call a country fighting itself.

Libertine, sectarian violence is criminal activity, do I really need to kick your ass for trolling?

there is no civil war…just like there WERE wmds and just like there was a link between al-qaeda and saddam. get it straight bub!

TheTailor: perhaps we can somecday refer to it; not as the Iraq Civil War; but the War of Sunni Aggression? hehee

Yeah, nice backpeddling there

TheTailor: criminal activity doesn’t quite explain the political motives of the violence.

http://www.foia.cia.gov/duelfer/Iraqs_WMD_Vol2.pdf — Iraqs WMD’s L0c0 have you ever read it?

again, you can call it what you like, but a spade is a spade.

we show you this once a week and you to this day refuse to acknowledge it

how about showing the precious admins incometence, and the dems in the senate giving the threat to revoke there lisence, if they refuse to edit, or not show the drama? why aren’t you yelling about freedom of expression?

scary as it sounds, but I tend to believe Bush when he says there are no wmds

Libertine, and the report doesn’t mention a “civil war”, you have been elevated to my “Troll watch” list.

perfect timing? the mini is scheduled to air at the 5-year mark

‘As usual, Clinton figures that the rest of us are too stupid or lazy to look it up for ourselves. And having read the complete report when it came out more than two years ago, I think it is an inescapable fact that a vacillating, equivocating administration had more than one opportunity to take out terrorist mastermind bin Laden, but blew it’

TheTailor: i really dont care what you classify me as

L0c0, yes there “were no WMD’s” after the fact…. but all intelligence reports submitted to him reported there was

“enough to the truth to make the “I-didn’t-inhale” and “I-didn’t-have-sex-with-that-woman” Clinton think he can get away with it”

let’s see the exact quote — chances are he said he hasn’t “found” any

incliding the UN”s

Libertine, you will if you keep that shit up.

Responses to Al Qaeda’s initial assaults,” Section 4.5, “Searching for Fresh Options.” There you have details of how bin Laden was ready to be plucked, but someone in the administration either ignored or nixed it. Or put it on an endless “you-decide, not-me” merry-go-round.’

including DEMOCRATS since 1996

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,213040,00.html

since nobody can truthfully state “there are no WMD in Iraq” in actual fact.

of course, that new senate report shows that the administration ignored people that were saying that the informatin coming from the INC may have been fake

TheTailor: I report what I see and read; if you have a problem with that; /ignore me.

turns out it was

you CAN say you haven’t found any at this time.

correct, US-Male, that cannot be truthfully stated

ignore dissenters and contradictory analysis and go with what sounds good, that’s a great plan

L0c0: eh, i dont mind being ignored.

L0c0, is that like the same reports that Clinton claims that Tenet wasn’t a part of his administration? hahahhaah

Libertine, 3you are devoiced (Requested by TheTailor - Reason: This is my ignore, take a few minutes to red the channel rules at www.ircpolitics.org, I’ll revoice you later. )

but even that gets into what we want to call a WMD it’s nitpicking of the highest order

Insurgent fighters in a Taliban stronghold are on the verge of collapse in the face of an onslaught by NATO forces, said the commander of Canadian forces in southern Afghanistan. Back by air power, Canadian troops along with Afghan and U.S. reinforcements took turns moving through former insurgent outposts in the Panjwaii region.

diversionary horse excrement

no, these are in reference to the lead up to the Iraq war get it straight

how would you guys define “politics” ?

L0c0 you mean the same intelligence references that Clinton used to send Tommahawks into Iraq in 98-99?

The report also said that exiles from the Iraqi National Congress tried to influence US policy by providing, through defectors, false information on Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons capabilities. After sceptical analysts warned that the group had been penetrated by hostile intelligence services, including Iran’s, a 2002 White House directive ordered that US funding for the INC be continued.

eventually your bullshit spins off the axis L0c0

CJB2K686, War by another means

Rustyford; you’re obviously gonna dodge, so I won’t bother continuing

power struggle war?

or Bloodless war

L0c0 how about the UN reports on Iraqs WMDs? we should have just ignored those as well right? how about that aspirin factory in Sudan L0c0?

you take the UN’s word for it..I’ll take Bush’s. and if that’s the case, then call me a fool for believing a fool

no one held Clinton responsible for that now did they no one said “It was a rush to war” then

deflect from bush and go to clinton real stand up sorta stuff

“rush to war” simply points out how Clinton was deathly slow to respond

L0c0, so they got misinformation from Iraqi nationals, shit happens.

shall we look at Clintons exact statement when he launched a couple hundred cruise missles into Iraq?

when you are worthless and slow, you claim the other guy is “rushing”

“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.” President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998. “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.” President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998. “Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.” Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998. “He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.” Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 sooo… those must have all been lies too huh?

I used to work with these two guys, one was slow and confused all the time, the other one was fast and mentally sharp all the time. One day they worked together and their shift went to hell — the slow guy claimed the fast came “showed up for work all coked out and messed up my rhythm”

no, from iraqi exiles, and coincidentally exiles which have now assumed power in Iraq and are friendly w/ Iran

so then “he came in all coked out and messed up my rhythm” became a great parody for a slow fuck’s excuse yeah — a SLOW rhythm

but i guess shit happens

“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998. NEATO! here is a good one! “There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.” Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001. ‘There is NO doubt!’ gotta love that statement

“dude you messed up my rhythm!”

hahaha US

hahah Clinton is like that guy

“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.” Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

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