10.31.07
EU is growning China is Annexing more countries Iran is on the march thru Shia to absorb nations and you are wondering
and neither is Rush, last time I checked
Reagan is the one that starting the over-issuing of “signing statements” that are used to “reinterpret” the US Constitution. *started
Katey-, I didn’t ask you if you knew, I asked if you *thought* he was on his meds.
Bush will be vindicated in some areas as time progresses
Eric Alterman doesn’t have any crudentials !
TheTailor, I have NO opinion because I have no way to judge it either way
to really judge anything !
so my answer remains, I don’t know
my starting salary as a GP in a big group practice in Houston in 1987 was 76 thou
He’s not a real cowboy however All hat, no cattle
compdoc it is also misleading to imply that the election of one person is going to change the course of stem cell research.
okay … off to work yet again
jhicks TimothyWT is starring in his own TV series!!!!
laterz guyz and dollz
Woah!
The Man from Beta Reticulae!
its a scare tactic .. but hey .. everyone does it
can I have an autograph?
and pointing it out shouldn’t make one a meanie its not making fun of
Rush is a meanie though
its pointing it out
how come the democrats aren’t mentioning a word about Bush’s record-breaking use of “signing statements” to bypass the US Constitution? The Democrats should be raising hell over this issue?
CB its agitprop……
Right, if we don’t vote for the liberal, we will never have stem cell research and all lives will be lost that could have been saved.
it’s bizarre that anyone takes Rush’s remark seriously anyway
replace that last questions mark with an exclamation
CometBaby, there are always several reasons for not electing someone. but most ads concentrate on one thing or another. thats normal
wtf does he know about the man’s illness?
Katey-: he has millions of followers
TheTailor…thats it
katey the MSM loves it. Its an opportunity to show what a meanie he is for pointing that out and calling it “making fun of”
they already found a way to use ebillical cords to get stem cells without killing anyone
TT the problem is the number of electorate sheeple that will believe the agitprop
I frankly don’t care about Rush, I saw the commercial, and it was a complete falsehood.
CometBaby, he’s an idiot for suggesting he knows about Fox’s medical condition
*umbilical cord
and his listeners are idiots to take it seriously
OMG has anyone told you how Gorgeous you look today CometBaby
Katey .. he did not claim to know about Fox’s medical condiditon.
his comment should be laughed at
CometBaby == Linda Carter
CometBaby, yes he did he claimed that Fox went off his meds or was faking
He said that Fox went off his medication to make it look worse than it is. He doesn’t *normally* look like that.
that would suggest he knows something about the man’s symptoms
or was that Twobar?
bbiab…need to wake up a bit….dayum…its 59 or so outdife
CometBaby, no one sees Fox in public anymore. He doesn’t make many appearances because of his illness.
katey whats wrong with saying that?
side
nothing
Fox News is Fair and Balanced
CometBaby, because he doesn’t know what he’s talking about
I’ve never seen Fox look like that with his illness, and he’s out there all the time talking about it.
Treason never prospers, what’s the reason?/ Why if it prospers, None dare call it Treason! -Sir John Harrington
Katey .. a lot of people see him. And have come forward to agree with Rush.
We’re talking about Michael J Fox
he has no reason to make a statement like that other than to try to discredit him personally
They had admitted that he does go off his meds to illustrate the effects of parkinsons
jhicks ? He is fair and balanced to you drop dead gorgeous sex bomb
eep
so whats wrong with someone else pointing it out?
Vicenti Fox?
pointing what out? A blank speculation based upon nothing?
It’s just his presentation style I hate, no matter what the subject He’s a sneering sarcastic asshole
stop taking your medication and wig out?
jhicks who?
ok, so am i but you get the idea Rush Limberger
so 12-18months is a possible timeframe we’re looking at?
jhicks He is one sexy fat bastard
It wasn’t based on nothing, it was based on seeing Fox one day without symptoms like that, then seeing him another with sympltoms that were MUCH worse than normal.
haha It’s just a chance to hate on Rush, that’s all.
No dramatic Iraq policy shift ==that’s too bad, i think they’d have support if they did
Right, like theree isn’t any stem cell research going on”.
hate stab hate stab
easy target
should rumsfeld be replaced or should we keep him as secretary of defense?
hate sessions…didn’t Orwell mention those?
Rush doesn’t help the conservative cause one bit
The as was portrayed like there wasn’t any stem cell research and wouldn’t be unless the liberal was elected. A complete falsehood.
Try to say stem cell research in a Arnold Swartsnigger accent
A fat repulsive sneering jackass, he reminds me of Michael Moore
i think we should bomb them atomic bomb
I think the point is that having NIH involved with such research is a valid concern.
hear about the rat stem cell research recently on a Parkinsons like disease? it resulted in what apears to be a cure. there is a side effect though: 100% development of malignant tumors I am not kiding
i think wee need to burn it
DIAF
pilgrim`: boy, talk about the cure being worse than the disease
burn it up we need to throw the bombs in iran
Limbaugh is to the conservatives what Sheehan is to the liberals = crapfaced talking heads Pilgrim; shit… talk about side effects
bomb iran we cant stay like that
Even the most commonly used medication for Parkinson’s causes side effects, which include involuntary movements. Even the most commonly used medication for Parkinson’s causes side effects, which include involuntary movements.
iran = jihad land
sort of trading one set of tics and movements for another, I guess
burn it or die
Bush likes the notion of “staying the course”. He’s convinced.
bjorkk == bad pop music
jihad = suicide for the human race
Timur, why is haveing NIH involved in FETAL stem cell research a concern? Theya re involved in the rest of it, and there is plenty of private money in fetal research.
jihad = iran
limbaugh is an idiot yes but sheehan is a psychopath
iran = suicide for the whole human race burn iran n bomb it
oh bullshit, rednecks can kick jihadists skinny little asses
rednecks ?
yeah
we’ve been “kicking” for over three years now.
Generally govt’s role in scientific research is to do the preliminary work, the work that private enterprise is less willing to risk money on.
Katey-, how does that matter with the fact that the as was a lie?
what is rednecks
I mean over here
Iran has their own culture, their own headaches and as long as they keep it to themselves its not a problem..
the wheels on the bus go round and round…round and round…round and round
bring ‘em on, etc etc
then private companies take that basic research, if they see promise, and use it to create treatments
Katey-, there isn’t any shortage of money in fetal stem cell research.
it gets the ball rolling
they want to erase israel from the map
Private money that is.
its not fair
Israel can take care of itself
Katey-: exactly. If the private enterprise does not see any profit potential in doing such research, it goes undone.
TheTailor, I have no idea how much or how little private money is in stem cell research right now
The ball is well rolling without NIH.
bomb them would help
Katey-: there’s not much.
TheTailor, how much money is currently in stem cell research?
atomic bombs are the solution the final solution
Katey-, read into Howard Hughes Medical, they have been putting in half a billion a year.
throw them over iran
I prefer scalar weapons
Katey-, and that’s just ONE private organization.
muslimanigdad
Not to mention that fetal stem cells may not e the beat all and end all of the research.
The Pakistani are doing fetal stem cell research too
Polls say there’s growing dissatisfaction with Iraq and Republicans.
scalar weapons ? what is it
eheh b/c Polls are rock solid evidence
personally I put my money on leeches
what is it like
polls and gravity do not matter
if I recall, HWBush was ahead of Clinton in polls in 92
uhm, no.
L0c0 correct. then he got Rossed
ahmadnigdad
L0c0, I don’t think so
locoman
Me either L0c0 I don’t remember it that way
L0c0, HW Bush was pretty unpopular going into that race
I remember lynch mobs forming
bjorkk are you in Iceland? indicative
i remmeber HW having an about 9pt lead (among “likely” voters)
katey, you have nick that doesnt seem to be related with politics
either way, i personally don’t put much stock into polls
I put more stock into the people I know
katey is name of a nice girl
BUT…I do believe that polls sway those that vote but aren’t as upto date w/ the real issues the headline reading voters
From the time of the Democratic convention, Governor Clinton obtained a commanding lead in the polls over Bush. Bush’s campaign was hobbled by troubled economy. The campaign revolved primarily around economic issues.
in which case, I think this talk of GOP losing could actually help the GOP
yep
that’s been the talk for the last what, at least 2months
the republicans need to lose to save face
Karl Rove did it!
no denying, republicans vote in higher numbers than democrats
“we wanted to do something but the democrats shut us out” — repub mantra in 08
they do?
moreso now, the headline readers are gonna start to say “well, its ok if i don’t vote, democrats have huge leads in the polls”
but the Iranians aren’t, and haven’t been keeping anything to themselves.
its the way they can save face and stand up to bush, DeDannan
L0c0 for at lease as long as the NBC pundits have been whining. Sometimes, these issues are tltal media fabrications based on their own politica axe
i believe they do anyway hehe
hence, Hezbollah. Hence, support for Iraqi Shi’a parties, and proxies among the Kurds (not so much now but before) and the bombings in Argentina, etc.
I wish the Democrats and Republicans would all just go away so us Secessionists could take over
Bush Aide Laments Turndown in Housing Market http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/24/business/24home.html
always thought low voter turnout favored Repub’s
not to mention assassinations of Iranian exiles in places like London
DeDannan, that’s generally the common wisdom
yesterday on CNN, Jeanie Moos was on asking people if they knew how Barak Obama was (showing his Time cover) in NYC
they have an ambitious and strong hegemonic design on the region. Ask any Gulf Arab state.
most people didn’t know
I hid my husbands registration card so he can’t cancel my vote this election
Timur yes, and I recal a Bulgarian agency that also liked London holidays
means people don’t pickup papers or watch any news hehe
right, and they were part of the Warsaw Pact, which also didn’t keep to itself.
L0c0, well, c’mon. Obama is still fairly new on the national political scene
pilgrim`: Ricin cakes on holiday!
L0c0, most people still can’t identify Iraq on a map, either
I asked him yesterday “whats your position on anchor babies, dear?” his reply? “who puts an anchor on their baby??!”
Timur perspective, long view, and a knowledge of their history long before the last Shah and the revolution
trina-, sure, take his right to vote away, that’s the freedom the left supports.
jhicks recalls
i agree
he isn’t an informed voter, TheTailor
Iran’s current state is a classic case of blowback
trina-, you don’t have to be informed
1953
it’s not required
LOL! i’m sure there are even people that can’t point out their own state
very good
and thats the sad fact, Katey-
trina-, no. not really what’s sad is that people don’t feel obligated to be informed
trina-, and you don’t have the right to take his ability to vote away, like all leftists, you are dishonest and controlling.
sorry, trina-..we don’t do literacy tests anymore…
Katey-: agreed
And of course, USA’s response to blowback is to create more blowback
that they don’t see it as a personal responsibility.
you really don’t think its sad that voters are uninformed about issues that concern them before casting ballots Katey-?
btw, if anyone is interested; go to archive.org, go to video archives, find the Prellinger Collection adn search for “Iran”
right. .what about it?
there is a 1950s documentary stored there
Millions are illinformed, and small wonder, look at the ad with Fox xhaking.
trina-, I do think it’s sad that people are uninformed. But I don’t think it’s sad that being informed isn’t a requirement to cast your vote
pilgrim`: reasons why the CIA’s funding was cut
leftists are dishonest ? LOL
there were good reasons
being *uninformed rather
shit, his last uninformed vote elected our current government
er..nevermind
jhicks the funding for Iran you mean?
The CIA was _totally_ corrupt
I had it right to begin with. 
“There ought to be a poll tax to take the literacy test before voting”. who said that?
Probably still is
I think I need another coffee.
trina-, one voted doesn’t elect a government.
FWIW, so is/was the KGB
vote that is
in our city, 2 votes determined the mayor.. it was mine and my husbands
during the last presidential election, the “fear factor” worked. It’s not working very well this time around.
“Way too many people vote. We should have fewer people voting”
Osama LOVES GWB
who said that?
trina-, and you are a pathetic loser to take someones right to vote away.
how do you know it was yours and your husbands?
jhicks Kim Philby was a nice guy
Turba, well that’s understandable. Fear, like pain, is something that people get used to after awhile
pilgrim`: hmm
I guess it’s a “fear threshold”
because there was only 100 people that showed up to vote, JanetB
and you were the last 2 to vote?
anyone care to guess?
jhicks what guitar you play?
DeDannan, Wiley Coyote?
trina-: I actually had that happen to me as well, a couple of decades back. Hehe. A friend was running for town chair, and stopped by to ask for my vote. Of course my wife and I complied. He won by ONE vote. A few months later, I congratulated him on his slim win and advised that we had voted for him. His response was “So YOU’RE the a$$holes who got me this job.”…..
pilgrim`: he was a steenkin double agent with a girl’s name!
5 because the polling place was “changed” at the last minute,
pilgrim`: a 68 LP Custom
Katey-, close
you had 100 voters in the whole town?
pilgrim`: I gave my strat to a needy pro
we have more, just no one votes around here
no you didn’t
it IS a small township. Total population is about 600.
yes I need another strat
but you had only 100 voters show up?
trina-, you have no idea if it was your vote or hubby’s that changed anything, in fact it wasn’t you or him that changed anything, it was ALL the votes after being counted.
yep
It wasn’t vintage or anything
with Humbuckers?
Just a nice 2003 American Deluxe heck no that’s not a strat
heck no we wont go
I lived in a small city that used to have just awful turn-out for local elections.
I want a Rickenbacker 12
One wonders how well a representative republic can work when so few care to have representation.
yeah
the fact remains that, had trina and her hubby NOT voted, things would be different.
me too
sheesh.. might as well have a town meeting instead of the expense of a vote
I play a Guild 12 acoustic mainly
my point exactly, Turba
Turba, no they souldn’t, because they canceled each other
no it would have tied heheh
I’d vote if they’d place some interesting candidates
wouldn’t
not in that election, TheTailor we voted for the same guy
I thought they both voted for the same guy.
I refuse to choose between poopoo and doodoo
yep
Turba, further you don’t know that any of this is truth, and anyone as dishonest as trina- shouldn’t be believed.
jhicks, how about caca and merde?
we only vote differently when party lines are in play
Katey-: that too all the candidates are carp
jhicks personally I’d rather have a giant douche than a turd sandwich.
Taking a voters registration card, what next, tar and feathers for those that don’t vote her way?
Life is like a shit sandwich, the more bread ya got, the less shit ya gotta eat
eww
jhicks.. well sometimes you have to vote between a poop and POOP! heheh
turd polishing will get you nowhere
trina-, it’s a good thing you are stupid, a lost voters registration won’t stop someone from voting, he will be on the rolls
it won’t shine and you’ll end up covered in crap
he has to produce his id to vote that way, TheTailor
trina-, and you have taken that from him too have you?
jhicks, petrified turd
not yet
so why did you all pick a poor goverment for your town?
our town has an excellent government
besides, I like being able to say “I told you so” later when everyone is disappointed in their favorite candidate
low taxes, high accountability
trina-, 3you are devoiced (Requested by TheTailor - Reason: promoting dishonesty )
I’m a baaad man
jhicks.. well you can’t say anything, you do not vote hehe
I can too!
Earth to the FreeTimer
I’m saying something right now! NEVER play any game you can’t win and that includes voting
we’re having a municipal election tomorrow our city made national news because 3 out of the 6 mayor candidates have felony charges pending or convicted of the one is a disbarred lawyer who defrauded 100s of senior citizens out of their savings the incubant is a conservative-oriented mayor whose clean as a whistle, so I am voting for him
jhicks but that is a self fullfilling prohpecy
Herzen crooks make successful politicans.
man, that Overstock.com chick is _wasted_ on Valium
pilgrim`, you’re supposed to become a crook once you’re in office not before
damn are things that bad in canuck land where the only people left to run things are criminals ?
“I don’t vote because all the politicians suck” … because no politican can win with viewpoints you’d suppot, since no one of your viewpoint votes
Herzen and obey the 11th commandment gotta go
rond, nah we just give our criminals egos its part of our ‘rehabilitation’
I see
I prefer the system where criminals are punished and barred from participating in the political process like Florida
rondi sees
can’t even vote
its rond
i call rond rondo sometimes because he reminds me of dancing a bit
I don’t care about changing the world, I hate humans you seem to be under the delusion that they actually count the votes
ttyl
no the Overstock Chick isn’t wasted on anything ! it’s the Camera slowing down and speeding up ! It makes you think things
did you hear the BBC.. is showing propogand for the enemy?
lol
oh dear….what sorts of “propaganda” ?
?
propaganda too
ah! makes sense that way
have you ever danced with the rond in the pale moonlight?/
oh.. the enemy, killing americans, and the enemy saying wait we can not shhot, there are civilians in the area, when we all know they kill civilians all the time
nope
lies
lol
should you be at school? hmmm?
always
the military is requesting the inbeds be removed.
Inbed with libs/lefties, wow, you just dont’ know what you will get. Better to be safe than sorry, just say no and go without.
HAH! I’m already a cracker!
howdy folks.
North Korea didn’t apologize for the Nuke Test
AP photographer, kisnapped in palestine kid
YAY! No more ’stay the course’ ! I hate that expression.
stay the course hicks, stay
‘Resolved to steadfastedness” is much more intelligent-sounding.
jihcks dont switch horses midstream
LOL
Hmm, Tower of Power song
tower of white power
What is hip?
racits
hip is broken
fix ur nick already
woot, just got back from a NRA/GOP rally here’a few pics of anybody cares http://www.pafoa.org/forum/pennsylvania-10/1043-meet-sen-santorum-la-pierre-cox-froman.html
I will in a second
WASHINGTON — Republican Senate candidates have fought back to regain an edge in two key races, pivotal battlegrounds that could determine which party controls the Senate, according to a series of new McClatchy-MSNBC polls. http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington//15835439.htm Hrmmm.
See we want to keep the Senate
I’d prefer giving it to the Amish
greetings all
yah TimothyT er , yay
doug, yeah but the pics are so staged, you should have gotten them to do something funny, like making silly faces or something.
yeah, probably would have been better
cell phones can cause you to be sterile
they were getting mobbed with autograph requests
so can Laptops !
doug, I doin’t know about better, but funnier 
I was just happy they were here.
thank goodness I do not have to worry about that stuff anymore
doug, it is good they are out there.
Santorum looks like he just sold doug a used..err..”pre-owned” car..
hello out there
haha
the fist of god will crush us
we were making jokes about bobby casey jr
doug, I see
dems, preparing to challange votes if they lose hahahha
janet, yeah just like Obaron’s supporters in Mexico
lol that’s pretty typical
JanetB bwahaha
just goes to show how screwed up our system is right now
cyberfrg, that it is, but what can we do about it?
JanetB, that’s part of the whine, bitch and moan strategy.
not vote for the people who keep it screwed up?
cyber, ok then, who do we vote for? or do we stay home?
TheTailor… yeah.. but I am sick of it, if they win the votes are correct. if they lose there has to be voter fraud, or votes no counted or people are to stupid to read a ballot
that’s up to you i will spend my time looking for alternatives if they don’t exist i will vote for the issues not the people
well, often people ARE too stupid to read a ballot
actually, there ARE alternatives, no matter what state you live in
but that happens in both wins
vote Bullwinkle!
What is mine is mine and what is your is nogotiable? Dems and Elections have become a big joke.
KoBushi.. not nearly the way it does in the dem side
cyber, good point. in fact, we all should judge candidates and parties by what they DO, not by what they SAY
Hrmm if only Dems can “get their message out” people will understand how things really are.
Tv, there’s a fair chance that many voters will vote Democratic on account of the Iraqi war
JanetB, it’s all part of why they lose, people don’t like dishonesty.
all I know it.. the tax cuts are working, the decifit has been cut in half in 3 years, we have not been attacked, the market is going gang busters, and unemployment is the lowest we have ever seen something is working
there is a fair chance it’s about toss the current party out for change sake.
janet , don’t be too hasty to give a single political party credit for all those things
nonconfor there is also a very fair chance that the Dems are full of it.
tv, that is true, but voters will be voters
nonconfor agreed.
nonconfor.. well the dems will resend the tax cuts, cut and run in the war on terror, and they will stop all survellance, and spend the next 2 years trying to impeach this president.. which they will do
but regarding the economy, there are ZILLIONS of things that affect it, not just policies of whatever person or party is in control at the moment
nonconfor but I don’t buy into the crap of , man everyone has had a bad vote. Re count recount. nonconfor I do want better voting machines and folks pointing out how bad they really are.
janet, well i cant blame them for wanting to impeach bush
then tell me why is it every time a dem is in office, the economy by the time they leave office is in the tank yes I can.. he has not done anything impeachable
janet, not necessarily true, but your missing my point: ANY governmental economic policy may takes YEARS, if not DECADES, to bear fruit cannot judge the party in power by what the economy is doing at any particular moment
and again.. it is always when a dem leaves office it is int he tank oh yes you can
janet, there are zillions of things that affect the economy. for example, state & local govts have a lot of impacty
raising taxes will have am immediate effect
crap
then, you have the actions of the rest of the WORLD
windows being delivered today and its raining outside of coruse
Janet, i agree, raising taxes WILL harm us all
you only have the actions of the world in recent years
hang on … then, you have the actions of millions of entrepreneurs and businessman and you have natural disasters the list goes on we cant jump to conclusions about what the economy does its like saying:
In general the administration doesn’t control the economy, but tax cuts on business always spur the economy.
and polosi (sp) has said she will resend all tax cuts in the first 100 hrs of her leadership
Hell, tax cuts in general do.
“i’m wearing a red shirt, and the sun rose in the east, THEREFORE …” “The reason the sun rose in the east is BECAUSE im wearing a red swhirt.” agreed, tax increases harm us all and taxes , all around, are too high HOWEVER, a tax cut without a corresponding SPENDING cut does no good. fact is, the repubs in power have VASTLY increased govt spending at all levels.
you can jump to conclussions. Never heard of taxing yourself to wealth and riches before.
in 6 years, we had a recession as clinton left office, we were attacked on american soil.. 2 natural disasters, and fighting 2 wars and the economy is STILL raging!
TV, like i said, i am FOR tax cuts
interestingly…the only taxes that were reduced were individual income taxes…all other rates remained the same…yet individual receipts only increased by 16%…while corporate receipts more than doubled…since 2003
janet, true, but during all that increased economic activity, the US govt has grown DRAMATICALLY
I see what I see… and we are all better off than we were 6 years ago
nonconfor, but you will never see them with Democrats in power. We haven’t seen it since Kennedy.
yes it has, but it would have grown more under the dems
therefore, one could conclude that INCREASING govt spending makes the economy GROW
no.. the tax cuts made it grow and is decreasing the decifit, faster than expected
what good does it do to cut taxes but INCREASE speinding? we MUST cut spending but the repubs have only INCREASED spending
nonconfor, when the population increases the government has to grow, it’s the amount of groth that’s the problem. growth that is
tailor, i disagree, the govt is NOT too small the US govt is too BIG
but no matter…the notion that tax cuts always boost revenue is an article of faith
for the faithful
its SPENDING
nonconfor, it still has to grow some.
if the decifit is decreasing 5 years faster than expected… well that says it all
tailor, i disagree. the US govt is WAY too big, too powerful, too expensive
well, time to go to work, bye all
nonconfor, you can’t police 200 million people with the same force you used to police 100 million.
janetb once ate a live goose
janet, the US deficit is GROWING at some $200 BILLION ayear
she bit its head off first then pulled its legs out
tailor, well maybe the US govt should not be trying to micromanage every aspect of our lives
nonconfor, true, they shouldn’t, explaing that to the left.
tailor, but its the RIGHT who have been in power
thetailor the amount of growth is not essential as long as its purposeful and used well
we cannot blame all this govt growth on the left this time part of the problem is that the repubs refuse to stand up and take responsibility the repubs are supposed to be for “smaller govt”, but it aint happened
nonconfor, I think you see higher spending because of the war effort, however, there are definite problems in spending.
bye all
See ha JanetB ya
bye janet stop eating geese
tailor, well then maybe the govt should try to AVOID war, instead of ENCOURAGING it
nonconfor, we were avoiding it just fine until attacked.
tailor, um, not really
Sure we were.
this war in iraq is costing us taxpayers soimething like a $billion dollars a day
nonconfor, if that’s what it takes to secure the future, so be it.
tailor, if peace is the goal - and for God’s sake, i HOPE peace is the goal - there are better ways to achieve it
nonconfor, oh? What ways are those?
tailor, well for starters, we could go back to the principles on which this great nation of ours was founded like, LIMITED govt, and not trying to defend the entire planet the world is a very large place. it takes a LOT of money to try and defend ALL of it
We aren’t defending the entire planet, try to be accurate.
yes we are
No, we aren’t.
the US military has a presense in over 130 nations the US defense budget is the largest in the world even PER CAPITA, the US defense budget is the largest
Having a base here or there doesn’t mean we are defending the planet, that’s simply silly.
there is nothing in the constition , the declararation of independance, or the history books to infer that
nonconfor, larger than the next 20 country’s defense budgets combined
the founding fathers wanted the US to be the world’s cop
nonconfor, are we defending Darfur?
tailor, probably
Dems believe hard, does it matter if we win or loose the War? If you are a faithful, does it really matter if USA looses the war if Dems get the upper hand in the USA?
nonconfor, well no, we aren’t
Why do I have these thoughts?
“Hezbollah’s objective is violence,” Harper asserted, “Hezbollah believes that through violence it can create, it can bring about the destruction of Israel. Violence will not bring about the destruction of Israel… and inevitably the result of the violence will be the deaths primarily of innocent people.”
Why do I feel this?
nonconfor, and saying we are defendint the *entire* planet is simply a lie.
tailor, the original idea behind this great nation of ours was of LIMITED government tailor, if the US govt had its way, it would indeed try to defend the entire planet
Herzen it sounds like that is saying that hezbollah’s means is violence
nonconfor, nonsense.
because there is a close relationship between military power and govt GROWTH
I here this small voice asking me that every time I hear a Dem response.
Tailor, what is nonsense? that the USA was founded on the idea of limited govt?
sigh.
the US founding fathers all distrusted large govt
According to the Defense Department’s annual “Base Structure Report” for fiscal year 2003, which itemizes foreign and domestic U.S. military real estate, the Pentagon currently owns or rents 702 overseas bases in about 130 countries and HAS another 6,000 bases in the United States and its territories.
i can’t tell if thetailor is saying nonsense because he believes the US does not try to be an empire or because he doesn’t believe the founding fathers wouldn’t want that
nonconfor, that if we could we would be defending the *entire* planet.
hans, that is correct. tailor, how about the US military was only used to defend ONE nation?
nonconfor no they didnt have a notion of ‘large govt’ vs ’small govt’ , what they distrusted was govt with power
that’s patently unrealistic. We already are and have been an empire; recall ‘the Cold War’.
hans–, are there US troops in ALL countries in large enough force to defend ALL of the countries of the world? hmm?
that’s what G. Washington extolled: “peace and honest commerce with all nations, entang,ling alliances with none.”
times have changed a bit since 1789
tailor, 130 nations is a LOT
No, there aren’t. nonconfor so what.
dannan, the idea of LIMITED govt has NOT changed tailor, well there are 2 problems with so much military foreign intervention: 1) its expensive
nonconfor, no..but the practicality has
2) its dangerous practicality?? you call the current US foreign policy “practical”?
nonconfor, it’s not foriegn intervention to have a base.
EU is growning, China is Annexing more countries, Iran is on the march thru Shia to absorb nations, and you are wondering if we should not absorb but creat other democracies so we can still have the life we live here today in the USA?
um., yes tv, not sure what your point is
I hate my chat replies.
nonconfor, most of our bases are there by treaty, are you suggesting we break those treaties?
we should create more democratic nations.
nonconfor, no more “practical” than pretending the last 220 years of American history never happened..
we have to or die.
the US govt is perceived by most of the world as an imperialist bully. that kind of foreign policy can make terrorist targets out of all of us
nonconfor yeah but we know that would really could be one and have not used our power to force the issue.
dannan, yes, and the last 200 years of amer history are a continuous cycle of bigger, Bigger, BIGGER govt, in all areas
nonconfor, no, it’s not precieved as an *imperialist bully*, that comes solely from the left.
does anyone know how to suppress all these garbage messages?
nonconfor we have not tried to be an imperialist in a real meaningful way.
har avsluttet ????
nonconfor, ask the victims of the tsunami if we are imperialist bullies, ot the Pakistan earthquake.
tv, i would say that US foreign policy is VERY imperialist
nonconfor if we were one, we would be like Russia, or China, or Iran
Tv_, conquest of the continent not withstanding
some call it “superpower”, but its the same thing
nonconfor, and you would be dead wrong .
deadgrrl agreed, the Mexican American war and Pre Polk is glossed over in USA history courses and books.
TheTailor is an imperialist bully
tailor, have you forgotten that mideast terrorists have ALREADY attacked our homeland? you call that a “good” foreign policy?
tv, ya… well.. on neil cavuto the day before we captured baghdad, they were talking about moving in starbucks and mcdonalds, and using iraqs oil to pay for the war
you bully!
nonconfor, what criminals do hasn’t anything to do with us.
tailor, has everything to do with working towads PEACE, not WAR
nonconfor, we are working toward peace.
yeah right so THATS why we attacked iran iraq
waging war for peace..its the Orwellian way
nonconfor, we didn’t attack the people of Iraq.
like i said, if peace really was the goal … problem is, i fear that peace is NOT the goal never has been
nonconfor`, we freed them from Saddam, ask them.
tailor, the US govt hellped put saddam into power
