11.30.07
okso 100 years after america fallsyou dont think theyd fix that or do you think theyd remain saluting their tattered
hi
pubic hair on my genitals
ok so we need a law that requires gerrymandering to occur on the basis of county lines
he needs to tell the american people who we are fighting, who are enemies are and why john kerry is a disgrace for going to the middle east
lol
he needs to lay this out otherwise he looks weak and misguided
soutlaw, he has over and over and over
i must have missed it somehow
it’s the terrorists soutlaw
i’ve heard him talk of “the enemy” plenty
that the enemy
i understand that part, the terrorists
I do not know how many times he has to say who and what we are fighting and why
this fictitious thing
who are terrorists? syrians, iranians?
it’s supposed to be vague that’s the point
the governments of those countries are backing terrorists? i want him to tell me
sorry
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. I AM TOILETMAN! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
you’re asking for specificity from a politician
well…I would love to have a third house of Congress be added…with members drawn by lots….and they would servee for two years….and that is it….a salary would be paid…then they would go back to their jobs.
i voted for him, i expect to be told what the hell is going on in the middle east
not gonna happen
He is doing what is right? What merrits that? One mans *right* is another?
well you voted wrong
of you ask me, he is a victim of his own success, had we been atacked again, the american people would not be acting like idoits over Iraq
now you know
YOU WILL ASSIMILATE
i don’t know if i voted wrong, because kerry and gore are total nut cases
So because what one man believes is *right*, we should all fallow without question?
but, we haven’t been, and it seems 9-11 is all but forgotten
Iraq was a big fucking mistake.
What constitutes right/wrong
not that iraq had anything to do with 9-11
right of course not lying by association
BUT… they were a nessary evil to erase
I haven’t forgotten 9/11. I also resent the people that drag that out of their ass everytime they need to bail out Bush
no they weren’t
OH, REMEMBER 9/11!
big deal 3000 people died
and the evil hasn’t been erased yet, i just want to know who it is, because it’s not sadaam or bin laden anymore
they’re patriots people die
JanetB, I support afganistan…..but not Iraq….so I do see a difference.
As I said, what one man considers right should be fallowed without question?
Iraqis and 9/11 highjackers were both Arabs. That’s the link.
Because Bush quote; “Is doing the right thing”
TrekkerCC.. saddam voilated the cease fire agreements for 12 years
What constitutes right/wrong? Where are the lines set?
how long were we going to let him continue?
Saddam and 9/11 highjackers — were both Arabs.
yeah that crackpot Albreight said the same thing about starving children in Iraq “it was worth it”
JanetB, yeah…and we punished him for it…..we bombed his SAM missiles that locked on to his planes. we kept strict sanctions on him.
the ceasfires were irrelevant
what is different?
Saddam was a 5th rate thug
we showed them — with that Iraq war.
oh please, those sanctions were a joke
he was not a threat
and we all know it
they worked he didn’t have WMD and they starved children to death so they worked all too well
JanetB, really…I didn’t so….
indiscriminately
no, sadaam starved children to death with his stubborness
no saddam did, he has warehouses of food locked up
Sadda, dodm
because he didn’t care about iraqi children at all
exactly didn’t hurt him one bit
Saddam didn’t do body counts.
he just cared about his money and his power
but he wasn’t able to build WMD
no the sanctions were a joke
what’s that mean?
oh but wmd is far more than nukes
JanetB, so what….he wasn’t very good to his people….North Korea is very crappy to their citizens….
the sanctions were a joke?
Actually I think this conversation is a rerun.
you say they were a joke but what does that mean?
and we haven’t invaded them yet.
exactly?
ke6i, yeah, and this is the 900th time it’s been shown 
WMD are worse than nukes? what?
it means, they did not effect him at all, cause other countries were ignoring them
were is the smoke coming from
I forget which Mantra goes in next.
WMD is more than just nukes
JanetB, as long as he was contained…..I was happy.
you said they’re worse than nukes the only WMD is a nuke
why is it that only Nukes are considered WMD
because they’re the only weapon of *MASS* destruction
no they are not
chemical weapons? not MASS
and again…if Hussein unwisely invaded anyone again….then we would have kicked his A@@ again.
biological weapons? not MASS
well we want to bring Baathists back now.
there is no MASS destruction with anything else
yes chemical and biological are mass
Baathits, after a few years of Iraq war, I think aren’t on the ‘bad list’ so much now.
it also depends on the definitions of mass and destruction, i think we need bill clinton to figure this out
no they are not
“Members of Brazil’s national congress have awarded themselves a 90.7% pay raise, in a move that will undermine efforts to bring public spending under control”.
they will kill a very small number of people
ajofi actually some of the chem/bio shit he had as inventories by the U.N. could have wiped out the planet several times over
you saying killing 100’s of thousands is not mass?
even a radiological device (dirty bomb) is not a WMD
thats mass destruction
oh bull he never had that kind of material
no, not bull. in theory.
yo
let alone the quantity
You can’t fight a war with zero friiends on the ground.. However many bombs you have. That’s the problem.
WB Swiggy
Swigert!!!!
hey kali hi trekker
ok have to put clothes in the dryer
We want Baathist military guys back in now.
ke6i, we are learning that in Afganistan.
afganistan cluster fuck #1
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16226231/
oh my god if that doesn’t violate posse commitatus what does? the army breaking a strike? insane
that’s a misleading headline
oh that’s surprising
those strikers — probably ‘terrorist’ sympathizers anyway.
lol
irresponsible journalism
Off to Guantanamo for the lot of them…
i took journalism, you’re not supposed to write like unless you work for the daily enquirer
they’re anarchists!!! oh wait, this isn’t 1919
well, the US ARmy is seeking court action…to try to force the workers back to the planet.
they’re saying there is no shortage
plant*
if there is no shortage the army shouldn’t get involved
down with capitalism!!!
and if there becomes a shortage it should be a federal government contracts issue, not one for the army to get involved in
army pencil pushers back legal action to end strike is what the headline should be
I think the Army in the past has broken unions before…it isn’t unprecedented
According to Mr Hunter, the army is exploring a possible injunction under the Taft-Hartley Act to force the 200 Kansas workers back to their jobs. …or to Gitmo
those people don’t have to go back to work under any circumstances
it’s a clear violation of posse commitatus
they can just walk home and go to sleep
Unions these days are filled with ‘Muslim sympathizers’
they’ll lose their jobs, but whatever
they’ll lose their jobs anyway they should feel good they have one for now
ajofi you’re nuts. absolutely nuts. did you just read the headline title and nothing else?
they should feel good that the government doesn’t buy tires from china
i read the whole thing
Doesn’t some Japanese company own Goodyear?
soutlaw, well I am….through I tink we should buy little from China…as litlte as possible.
can someone tell me why abbas thinks he has the authority to call elections early?
umm no because he doesn’t have it
just saying, people who work in tire factories who are funded by the federal government should be happy to have those jobs
Yes he does
the constitution doesn’t allow for it
DuckFlit, the government gives him the authority.
how?
the constitution doesn’t
it isn’t allowed under any documentation
According to him,it does.
the government is a Hamas run government
Commerce Clause allows for basically everything, these days.
he is wantonly declaring executive power he doesn’t have like putin and bush
Abbas has not actually said the constitution lets him do it
He’s the executive
it’s a trend lately i guess
so what
A tire might cross state lines — so therefore the feds can do whatever they want.
Bush can’t call for new elections and he’s the executive
fuck the feds
I’m sure the Palestian Constitution/or governing document gives the President authority to do so.
sup sup
actually no.
does it?
Yeah, well this is the USA, it’s a little different heh
i heard there are questions
just like the Prime Minister in Britain can ask the Queen to dissolve parliament…
I have read the Palestinian constituion, it doesn’t allow it.
but all i saw was a headline
abbas is smart but he is disrespecting the constitution they put togehrer (lol)
No, he pulled the election out of his bottom.
who the fuck will respect a hamas government?
ajofi, you aren’t credible
i know they can in britain trekker, they can in israel too
i mean the palestinians are really making it hard for the world to give a shit about them
and you are? have you read it?
i mean, they haven’t had a full PM term in ISrael in decades
being so retarded and all
at least i’ve read it
DuckFlit, that’s the point
The Queen on advice of the Prime Minister….disssolves Parliament
duckflit the palestinians that they feed?
This is widely reported, that the Palestinian election is against the constitution
i bet they respect the hamas govt
ajofi, I doubt you have, and even if you did, you would twist it like everything else.
unfounded - i dont buy that argument at all
Queen is the Head of State and (techincally still head of the executive) in Britain unfounded, hey
palestinians can’t be so stupid as to not understand the way the world community views their little bruhaha
hey trekker
I’ve read it. You haven’t. We lack a common frame of reference.
ke6i, it’s not reported by Abbas like that
duckflit i’ve been there twice
ajofi, I doubt you have read it
ok Tailor
unfounded - why are they so stupid then, can you tell me?
although spent little time in arab towns
ajofi, and you aren’t credible,
they just haven’t had a leader like ghandi or someone rise to power arafat had a shot at it but he turned out to be a crook
your doubts and opinions don’t concern or interest me
“the army is exploring a possible injunction under the Taft-Hartley Act to force the 200 Kansas workers back to their jobs.”
and they’re constantly getting harrassed
Mandella was actually a terrorist, you know.
maybe it would help if they didn’t have a retardedly anti-semetic leader rise up who didn’t preach violence? that could help, but they are probably evil at heart so would reject such a leader
yeah it’d be nice
yeh, the army’s going to come in shooting
i’m no palestinian sympathizer - and that’s crossing some lines duckflit
their blood is black like the oil in their inky souls
unfounded - i’m only displaying my disappoointment and frustration over this
calling a few million people you don’t know evil like that that’s dangerous fair enough
it’s like the palestinians arent even trying
well they’re having a bit of civil conflict at the moment and the thing is the people at the top can whip up conflict for support
it is so frustrating, that they can’t take the high road with the israelis who are so good at being the bad guys
like bush circa 2003 red alert, orange alert
Going to get crazy. Possibly massive civil war from Palestine to Lebanon to Iraq.
the israelis try pretty hard to be good
Massive wave of extreme chaos and violence.
i’m so high i have to go eat something right now
but like it’s a war
ok, the Israelis aren’t bad guys
Oh? They got rid of the colorful little bars?
that’s stupid and wrong at multiple levels.
dclassify well they look dumb now instead of intimidating so they just stopped using them tim-bbl i agree
Indeed
but all the same palestinians get harrassed all the time it works, israel stepped up security and bombings stopped
i sympathize with palestine. it could just as easily be like that over here. Stuck between a rock and a retarded place. Your leaders are out of touch with you. Your country’s government wants to push you into the sea. Everyone is lying to you for your support. And when you give it to them, they screw you.
They are born into a prison.
so you can’t blame them but it sucks to be a palestinian
i’d revolt.
that’s because they have this segment who blow up cafes, restaurants and shopping malls.
I loved how he created the DHS and intel Czar (that was my personal favorite)
palestine’s govt wants to push israel into the sea
which..actually happened over here. so.
not the other way around
I think they don’t really have leadership anymore.
so, they kinda left Israel no choice.
israel wants to push palestine into the sea as well.
I thought Hamas might bring peace to the Palestinians. But it looks like they are deeply divided and have no leadership.
dclassify well if he did that while at the same time gutting and centralizing some things it would be one thing but a leader on top is just stupid
sure, it sucks, but their policies make it suck more.
akhenaton israel has arab MKs
how would Hamas bring peace to the PAlestinians
arab israelis can vote and israel is trying to disengage from palestine
mks?
Well avoid the civil war. Control the streets.
when their entire charter is based on terrorism and denial of the state that could smash them at will
member of knesset which is parliament
control the streets.
control the streets of Gaza.
hrm..extreme minority so i’ve read.
well yeah they’re the minority of israeli citizens
they’re not going to control the streets when they’re supporting launching Kassem rockets and suicide bomberts
Hamas couldn’t bring peace to the streets of Gaza even.
because Israel’s gonna respond. no, and they never could.
Well Israel aside.
israel doesnt even like their african geneticly hebrew jews.
another brain dead lets trust the terrorists and hope for peace bubble pop?
if you think there are lots muslims who support the existance of an israeli state, you’re kidding yourself
the ones I saw seemed to be doing ok.
I mean they are always going to be trying to attack Israel. Just the infighting. hamas couldn’t end this.
say it an’t so/
israel doesn’t have to let palestinians vote, they vote for their own govt
“In case of necessity, the President of the State, or the speaker of the Council of ?ministers may suggest dissolution of the House of Representatives. If the dissolution is ratified by two-thirds of the members of the Council of ministers, the President of ?the State shall issue the decree of dissolutio”
I am outta here
akhenaton the ethiopians there are hot
sorry, i’m not trying to be a bigot, but muslims don’t like jews
I think you mean the Ethiopian Jews, who are in the army and other institutions
so i doubt they’re going to have a social breakthru thanks to three palys in the synod
Israeli Arabs can vote but there is a limit on how many Arabs can be in the Knesset. There are all kinds of laws that prevent Israeli Arabs from owning property. And there was in 2003 a racist law that prevents Israeli citizens from bringing their non-Israeli Arab spouse into Israel
more integrated than blacks in Arab countries, or. .say, Arabs in France.
The whole point of Israel is to form a Jewish majority state.
so…if the council of mnisters…two thirds must agree…..
a racist law?
It’s trying to do something no other nation has ever done
dude, it’s the one non-Arab state in the whole region and it wants to stay that way,. so, no.
and that’s the opposite of integration
ajofi they don’t ethnically cleanse or anything
Iran is non-Arab.
why can’t the jews have that tiny tiny piece of land?
they let in lots of jews and don’t let in anymore arabs
every other country tries to integrate, not Israel.
ajofi the arabs there are ok
Cyprus is non-Arab
no, every country does not try to integrate.
everybody speaks 2 of hebrew, arabic and english
they’re OK but they are 2nd class citizens
it’s ok that iran is an islamic republic, but god forbid the jews have 1 square mile of their own
stick to monetizing the debt, you know something abotu that.
that’s a stupid attitude
ajofi a little bit but it’s a war
anyway, ajofi’s stupid enough on this issue to merit going to bed for real. night
they try to be good to their arab citizens in general but it’s a touh situation
bye Tim-bbl
integration can be nice or not nice
seeya tim
Ottoman Empire integration? not so nice
well lets look at the case of the American Indians…that tiny tiny piece of land eventually became the whole damn continent.
who is making it not nice? why are muslims trying to take over the only piece of jewish land in the world?
assimilate or die
islam, assimilate or die
Um, that is pretty racist to me. I mean, if you can’t bring your spouse in because they’re non-Israeli arab
Palestinian-Israel considerations are very……..well…..
it’s not muslims anyway it’s arabs, including secular arabs
tricky
and it wasn’t Jewish land. Israel is a colony.
especially with the arab nation majority in the Middle East.
ajofi oh no, here we go
fuck it
a colony
something about moses parting the red sea rings a bell
let’s be up front
but ok
Herzel?
ever heard of david and solomon?
the muslims have a worldwide PR problem
It’s a European colony. they left
yeah soutlaw
they are on a large and disproportionate scale ABSOLUTELY INSANE
DuckFlit, that is correct.
actually they all are insane
and it starts with being idiots on camera a lot
Jews, Arabs, Persians they’re just crazy
the nation of palestine is a myth invented after israel established a state
well it goes back a ways but yeah
yeah. I think 67 war ‘created the Palestinina identity’
the jews were runoft centuries ago. after ww2 we dumped a gadload of european jews there because no place else wanted them
untrue
soutlaw, well…British called the land Palestine…before it was broken up.
so what does the term palestinian refer to?
if it wasn’t for 67 war, those Arabs would have eventually joined JOrdan or Egypt.
who has the right to call themself a palestinian?
totally false, the British had promised a Palestinian state prior to WWI and then came the Balfour Declaration.
i think the ottomans named it palestine?
so there is historical truth to Palestine being a nation…how whether it lost the right to exist….once it attacked Israel…
But since they couldn’t be Israelis. and because Israel wanted the land, the nationality of Palestine came about.
and why should i care what britain thinks?
but duckflit yeah basically anybody who was there in 48 is a palestinian
this is the beginning of a very typical israeli/palestine debate
in the 1940s is up to debate.
i think god gave the land to the jews
WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS FROM?
they didnt need to be “The Nation of Palestine” because they lived there for centiuries. it wasn’t until they got displaced that they had to file a formal complaint.
WELL THE DOCUMENT XYZ
nasty letters didn’t work i don’t think
The Palestinian nation is an ‘emerging nation.’ I think.
WELL MY DOCUMENT SAYS THIS blah blah blah
trekkerCC palestine has a right to exist
soutlaw, because the British controlled the area…before the split.
oh, so it was a british colony given to the jews? therefore britain owned it
it was the land of the philistines. they’re the palestinians.
this is all nonsense bottom line is this, muslims don’t want jews to exist
trekkerCC they’re trying to annihilate Israel and Israel chooses not to annihilate them in return, that’s pretty humane by middle east standards
especially next door
in the 1940s…the British controlled area of Palestine was split into Israel/Palestine….
the palestinians could have had a deal in 48
if by God you mean the white man, then yes
and in 93 and 2000
Most Palestinians were not born then.
basically when the British left….Palestine and other Arab nations launched an attack against Israel and lost.
akhenaton, i’m talking about the god that almost all civilized people in the world seems to believe in
93 and 2000?
People are born, no fault of their own, and they deal with their current situation.
actually 93-96 was a continuous chance
civilized? rofl
huh?
bottom line is this. muslims and jews coexisted for many centuries, so that whole jews are cats muslims are dogs thing is BS.
soutlaw how about the japanese and chinese and the indians are they uncivilized?
majority of civilized people
i don’t think that’s even true
basically….everytime arab countries and Israel has engaged in battle….arab countries have always lost…
everyone hates someone. htat’s true.
i said chinese and indians
and most of the uncivilized ones too
a lot of them aren’t civilized
Not everyone fights wars all the time.
christians … 20% jews 1%
muslims?
Except last Lebanon war — which was a draw, ahem.
muslims? same god? ?????
yeah it’s the same god
allah is god
it’s all the same god
muslims 20% but I doubt that it’s the same god
I believe Arafat walked away with a generous deal…..in 2000….
OcDoc, get a fucking clue
it definitely is like mohammed talked about abraham
when he rejected the Israeli offer.
Since God doesn’t exist, they all worship the same nothing.
how do you figure allah is not god?
but the SAME god as the christians?
the muslims are children of abe
yes the same people from the same book
Thanks for the official stamp on the whole “God” thing, ke61.
ocdoc yes, islam references all kinds of old testament stuff
the old testament, people of the book
if the christians worship the same god as the jews…then yes.
jews, christians and muslims
ocdoc well i think we do we just differ on messiahs
well, it’s all myth in the first place, but those of us outside are entitled to form an opinion as to whether it’s the same god or a different one
OcDoc, but every muslim would disagree with you
you’re entitled to be wrong, yes.
so don’t speak for them
If it’s the same non-existent god, then is it the same? Hmm.
so it’s still less than 50% of the world
Jews, Christians, Muslims = same god same deity
most of the civilized world believes in the same god
Yep,
same delusion, different story
this is true
if you don’t do the math and just call it like you see it, you may well be incorrect.
I would never speak for someone who is wrong
ajofi - there is no comparison
Except christians made Jesus a god..
soutlaw that’s a pretty bizarre statement
apples/oranges
why is that bizarre?
Hello OcDoc
still same deity
i think the numbers back me up on this
hey Trekker
Yep
well if by civilized you mean the west we’re not very big on population lots of undeveloped places are christian
All from Abraham
and muslim
soutlaw adds up to less than 41%
Jesus isn’t a God. He’s the son of God.
and there’s lots of developed cities in east and south asia
supper …
To Christians he is all of the above
I believe in Dog
which makes him the God. who is also only one God.
OcDoc, according to someone who counted every person on earth or what?
soutlaw they probably used statistics
I am a heathen like ocDoc and FreeTrade
most people who matter in the world are christians, muslims and jews
rather than go around counting individuals
I’m a lapsed Buddhist.
soutlaw that’s a terrible thing to say
no, it’s just the truth
probably most of the people who matter to you are christians, same with me but what do you have to say about some chinese or indian person
OcDoc i had 1 more q about hematocrit. smokers having a higher %, say 53%, is that considered dehydrated still, or is it kind of misleading
it’s not like you care about them more than someone in guatemala or nigeria
damn
they aren’t as influential in world affairs of any sort
I’m not sure if I know a single person who goes to church, though, come to think of it.
i typed that all and he left =(
soutlaw, china? india?
eh. i say..fellow christians, shape up or ship out. they’ll not get any preferential treatment from me. Jesus wouldnt have wanted that.
most people period aren’t influential
Though successive human religious leaders might have
the civilized world, europe, the americas, australia, large parts of africa, the middle east are mostly christians, jews and muslims
Chistians Muslims and Hindus
damn
soutlaw east and south asia are civilized
Jews way down the list.
Oh I said that, I accidently disconnected mysefl
they’ve been civilized longer than we have by a lot
ke6i, yes … jews have been forced to convert or die, or in some cases just forced to die
they weren’t always on top of the world in the last say 200 years
the radical muslim elements in the middle east are trying to start the 2nd holocaust
soutlaw is just trolling racist garbage
yeah, i’m a racist
more buddhists that Jews too, probably.
you’re a fool then
Yep
I think in Asia you have a bunch of guys who people respect. Buddha and confuscious. But you don’t necessarily identify iwth them.
well..i can’t disagree with you when saying somewhere along the lines Islam went very wrong but convert or die is something the Christian Empire also used to say
you dont have enough knowledege to make that assessment unfounded, therefore making you the troll
Muslims were colonized. And colonized people backlash. Big surprise.
Islam is still fine where it is practiced with moderation and when it is.
islam needs their own reformation.. until then; we’re kinda screwed.
Arab countries or a good example on why we must always keep church seperated from state
Libertine, well I think the reformation is happening in the US….
Bush should start the “US Government branch of Moderate Islam’
In america there are alread a lot of them. Well Got to go Cant use my other computer for awhile
Then we would be part of the Axis of Evil!
McIslam
I mean…Islam in European/American is a lot more moderate than the fundemental type of Islam practiced in some arab countries abroad.
Sort of resembles Islam, but is bland and soft and easily chewable.
it is true islam. peaceful and progressive like they were in 400 AD and so on
i dont know about americe, but in Europe its even more extreme than in arab countries.
i found out why iran denies the holocause caust
then you got some desert hicks with AK-47s being politically manipulated by religious fundamental conservatives to go to war over bullshit uthen you got some desert hicks with AK-47s being politically manipulated by religious fundamental conservatives to go to war over bullshit/u
every army is politically motivated isnt it =p
the most extreme type of Islam, practiced in the world is practiced in UK.
the only thing they’re missing is Bush and Billy Graham wasnt always the case. those muslim extremists are all young. and their parents arent nearly as fanatical.
ah
They should market it into a sport …. Islam X T R E M E ! OH YEA!
have skateboarders as the pitchmen
they’d just attach C4 to their skateboards
i just find it hilarious that muslims in UK are more extreme then in Yemen.
Yea 30’something skateboarders with no career and too much money
Yeah we can Muslim extreme sports. Take Muslim guys and drop them off buildings.
see..its fucked up. they’re all being manipulated by rich liars. being convinced to give up their lives for martrydom. And you know what God does? He sends them right back down here to try again. because they surely didnt get it right.
Wow, don’t be too nice now
cowabunga..allah akbar!
I think if we went to gladitorial games, it would get good ratings Take captured ‘terrorists’ and have them be torn apart on TV by wild animals.
yeah lets prove them right about the West being the new decaying Roman Empire
Fatwah olympics… fastest IED preparation
Decaying?
The west would be lucky if it lasted as long as th eRomans
Damnit this torrent needs more seeders =\
i’m refering to the age of decadence and the fall of rome
Another fungal agent examined by Iraq for its biological weapons potential was wheat cover smut.
ke6i, what do you think happened to the Romans/ ?
the “West” has had a pretty good run if you start back
Roman — split into east and west empires West imploded. Overrun by Germans
ke6i, how long did the east last?
East fought a war with Persians and then was wiped out by Muslims East lasted a long time after they got overrun. I think to 1400s or so?
Wiped out?
err overrun.
aw cmon..they weren’t roman empire anymore
Byzantines were roman, I think?
They had years to get our of there though, do you know who the emporers daughter married?
Pretty much a continuous line going back.
thats like saying hawaii is american
what is it japanese?
The Byzantines were the Romans yes
or the phillipenes
I’m not a huge expert on Romans. I jsut know the vague big details.
ke6i, during the years of Ottoman attacke, Romans were moving out
you’re going by governing bodies, and even then after the fall of rome, the sprawling parts had their local power structure, but were they Roman Empire proper? no.
Norht, the daughter of the emproer married the Duke of Kiev
Even under constantine, the days of Ceasar were long long dead
uh nevermind
And many went back to western Europe
thats the roman empire i’m talking about
who cares about that
Caesar?
hawaii cant get anymore american its not mexican its not australian, its even in north america
The empire lasted for 1500 years after Ceasar
yeah and Carter’s Energy Czar is a continuation off the Roman empire.
If America were to fall..would hawaii still be American?
YES if you think you’re so smart tell me what else it would be besides american
no. They’d be hawaiian.
Fall how?
thats retarded
How do you stop something this big?
everything dies
by talking hypothetically
akhenaton, unrealistic
theres a difference between that and just being stupid
ke6i, everything doesn’t die, it changes.
dude. if america fell just how would hawaii still be American? because that was the last great power to rule them?
first of all dude
I figure eventually America will disentegrate into race war. Sort of like Iraq.
Umm, “dude”, there isn’t any falling.
hawaii doesnt have their own currency
Hawaii…was it own Kingdom before I believe the US came.
ok..so 100 years after america falls..you dont think they’d fix that? or do you think they’d remain saluting their tattered old glories?
im all done with that conversation you need school or something
Sort of ethnic divides. And sending letters telling the ‘other race’ to move out or die. It starts small,
yeah schooling
they’d allie with other islands and maybe south america and they’d do their own thing.
you could say that about any piece of land, anywhere whoopdee doo its called ‘no shit’
The British didn’t exactly cease to exist after tts fall from grace as “Empire”
Other Islands?
eventually like continental drift will move AMerica and jam it into some other continent.
Man, you are out there.
i think hes just young
tailor, i’m talking the bombs drop. America proper is toast.
akhenaton, what would happen is martial law.
life in hawaii has got to go on
hawaii is sinking 2″ a year tho =P
Right, as a state. It would go on.
Yeah Hawaii will sink into the ocean.
as a state. hahah
TheTailor, in martial law….the governing regime would try to restore order/or keep order via military means bTheTailor, in martial law….the governing regime would try to restore order/or keep order via military means/b
i shit bigger islands than hawaii wanna talk about that
The Navy is there, remember?
hawaii would leave the union.
Ever hear of martial law?
the navy would have left to fight in the war. basically if there is no American military to keep them there..you know hawaii would slip out of the american union that they never wanted to be a part of in the first place
That’s a very nice dream
holy shit
Go back to your home planet.
no kidding
Write a book
ok instead of acting so incredulous..try coming back with something
you know the problem with that?
California will rejoin Mexico — when we get more Spanish speakers than English speakers.
I did.
why would hawaii still be a state of the USA?
its a waste of time and would take weeks to explain to someone like you
What would happen is martial law to restore and keep order, as TrekkerCC pointed out.
_cS oh you’re an absolute doll, you know that? so..100 years of martial law?
lame.. next
after it was decided that the American Union has failed?
i left for a bit, but i have to tell you something akhenaton
I think before the southwest USA splits off, though, the elites will sign a EU type deal with MExico eliminating the borders. And this will be how America fades away.
it is true islam. peaceful and progressive like they were in 400 AD and so on
you really need to study islam a bit
Maybe some surfer “dudes” would go over and kick the shit out of the army on Hawaii. ya think?
insteading of assuming you understand it
dont waste your time he needs school
One Nation Under God Indivisible Alberta should join the US
Smoke some weed…throw sand in the faces of some soldiers….
there ya go
islam was peaceful and progressive during the medieval period. a great many inventions and innovations social, political, and scientific.
save us oh mighty Ra
what inventions?
400 AD? wtf are you talking about man
ya join the usa army so you can serve 2 years and get tricked into serving 4 more against your will great incentive program
How tricked?
I’d rather join the CS Army
_cS, you can join the Army for 18 months
well they say you only need to serve X then when you get there they say you need to serve more
I thought they send you back to Iraq over and over again once you join the Army.
what if you’re in baghdad and they’re your ride home
akhenaton, i’m sorry … if you want to portray islam as being peaceful and progressive, please find some basis in fact
you stay
Unless you go gay and quit.
_cS, umm, they can’t do that.
they’ve done it a million times including this war
the uneducated masses are dangerous, americans and arabs
Officers have to stay, enlisted don’t.
its all over the papers hm you sure?
Yes, I’m sure.
i didn’t read anything about officers
what is the new Army program?
Officers get education so they are automatically in the reserve
n ono
TrekkerCC, 18 months, and loads of bribes
these are guys that signup for a certain period then are lied to and made to stay there it was in the news more than once
I can’t be in the military myself due to ’sexual perversion’
where - whats the URL on that
i cant believe you guys didnt see it
ke6i….I get you…
last time i checked there were plenty of gay soldiers
_cS, that’s not how it works….now they an have their tours overseas involuntarily extended, but when their time is up they get out.
yeah thats what it was
I am too immoral to join the military due to sexual perversion.
isnt that the same thing i said?
Actually, I believe they have done that
_cS lie lie lie lie
soutlaw, then you didn’t check the right place, there aren’t a lot of gays in the military.
