11.29.07
Wtf is it w-people in this country and being so willing to put millions of potential civilians lives at risk b-c
The British civil war WAS a civil war, as both factions were fighting for control over a single territorial entity (unlike the American “Civil War”).
thery were not fighing over teritory they were fighting over wether to keep the king
No, they were fighting for control of a territorial entity.
to support him or no
WHO cares?
But A civil war is defined as a conflict between a single nation which is splitting. A revolutionary war is a war of revolt against the government. A war of independence is a war against colonialism.
because he was a prick no they werent
The American Civil War was fought over a pickle.
lol
Thats how its defined by historians.
never heard of oliver cromwell
You havent ?
it was a Question
Anyway, it was The War of Northern Agression, as we all know. g
He was a great man he allowed the Jews back to England. Or Britannia as it was called.
never see many Jews in Britain
who said history dont repeat itself
A lot of people dont know about the English , enthic cleansing of jews..
ha ha
lol
They made them leave England. No I am not kiding
we just dont have alot
joos get pwnd by english?
they have problems meeting each other
In fact, This is a major reason why a lot of jews opposed zionism
Cromwell was a power-hungry religious fanatic.
they felt the world would force them to leave and live in a zionist country
“Al-Qaeda controls western Iraq: Report”
Gawd more religious trifle talk… waste of words
Both sides in the British civil war were fighting for control of the British government. One side included the king, the other did not. But the bottom line is that they were fighting for control over the government of a single territorial entity. Contrast this to American Civil War which was a fight to prevent the formation of a new sovereign territorial entity, rather than for control over an existing one.
Whats religious trifle ?
yes but you were saying over land before it had noting to do with territory
No, I was saying a territorial entity, not “land”.
it was for the rule of the whole UK
hrm.. Iran’s leader keeps calling the US, Israel, and U.K. evil.. what kind of world leaders labels 3 nations as evil?
“The Whole UK” is a territorial entity.
and at first it wasnt even a fight for the UK
Crowell allowed the Jews to return to England thats a fat. fact
it was just to stand up to the King to make him back down they seem to have all fooked of to US now
Edward 1 forced them all to leave
rwx= trifle, as in little meaning: talking about religious this and that has little meaning since religious itself is of little value beyond what people attach to it. Religion itself curse, helps, nothing, unless people attribute said title to THEIR own actions in the name of religion.
Well would you say ethnic cleansing on the basis of religion has little meaning ? OR allowing a people back into a country who were
I’d say based on religion, those people are fucking idiots.
banished for Their religious beliefs ? What people ?
The contrast I am making here is between fighting over the government of an existing country versus wanting to split off from that government entirely.
Anyone using religion for a means to harm/impose/dictate/separate/segregate etc. = idiot.
was hitler religious? just curious
very
The fomer is a civil war, the latter is a separatist war.
Im talking here about discrimination and bigotry not the right or wrong of religion itself.
former
the right of people to believe in what they choose.
Hey was a pretend religious fronter.
what about stalin? was he religious?
ok
how many millions did he kill?
I was just watching some old Hitler film footage in a doco
Most of those people used religion as a shield, they didn’t REALLY think god was in existance, nor on anyone’s side, let alone theres… no REAL logic follower could.
or the romans’ persecutions?
*.
Observer, I believe he was religious many want to deny it because they dont want him associated with religion which I dont blame them, but hey being evil and religious doesnt mean the religion is evil…
they managed to use lip reading tech to hear what he said in all his silent films
Timur is evil and he is religious but his religion is not evil hehe just kidding.
lol
I never knew he was a vegi
So now we’re supposed to negotiate with Ahmadinejad. Welcome to 1938, folks.
Pickle yep.. Wait, who is he.. hmm Hes more like Stalin… Pretending to want to help us..
they should’ve taken out Al Sadr LONG time ago, now he’s getting too powerful
we have to encourage a cival war there
But he has his knife at the ready.
Man.. there HAS to be something new to discuss… same old tired, rehashed, socratic dialogue going nowhere….
and give them the means to wage one not like in Iraq for 10 yrs
welcome to life
Yep, it would be nice in Iran I dont see it happening.
observer= nagh, welcome to #politics regulars
thre truth is the avg person in Iran is too nice.
I don’t think he’s pretending to do that. A bunch of pacifist retards are deluding themselves into thinking that he is.
;p
They arent going to revolt because they dont want to fight at all. They are not extremists
But then, people thought the same about Hitler…
But the problem is the control of the country and the military are extremists
The problem is that I hear a lot of noise about all these young Iranians who are fed up with the government and want to get rid of it, but aren’t doing shit all to that end. There’s no one to arm to start a civil war, since the only people willing to take up arms to defend their ideals seem to be the pro-Ayatollah militias.
thats the problem with pacifism brb
Pickle thats the truth, they dont like their government but their idea of replacing it is outliving it an we dont have that much time.
Well, whether it’s pacifism, cowardace, or just plain being fooled into thinking that they really do live in a democracy, it’s becoming apparent to me that the Iranians are never going to topple this shitty government of theirs. Indeed.
We need to send Brittney on a tour there.
Yaak haha
Heh
And have a madonna too with a big kiss in the middle hahaha
I think that Paris Hilton should get involved in diplomacy.
haha.. send the slut brigade and the gangsta brigade.. Pickle here would be the triump of ages.. Cause the USA to fail miserably in Iraq. Then go in wiht your forces and allies and clean it up through bloody put downs. and iron fist rule. End the insurgency and declare yourself the peace maker and the USA the war monger
Obviously that’s what the Iranians are hoping for.
yep
And they’d do the same thing in Lebanon given the chance.
Why is Baker so stupid, I dont understand that, But as someone said he is part of the reason we had to go to iraq anyway yep.. I would be more than willing to commit to war against hezbollah Iran and Syria. Syria wants out then they have to end their meddling.. And give up their WMD Which I think they have small quantities of. but they are not a strong nation, Iran is stronger. And more evil.
Baker is playing stupid for the same reason that Clinton shit his pants when Wallace asked him about things he did that might have contributed to 9/11. No one wants to admit that they played a part in creating the mess we’re (not) dealing with now.
Wtf is it w/people in this country and being so willing to put millions of potential civilians lives at risk, b/c of some irrational world view of how “democracy” should be dealt… WE (in the USA) don’t even have a F’ing “democracy,” it’s a fraudulent ideology, and is hardly in practice here. Wtf makes you think it’s going to be properly spread throughout?
No you dont get it
democratic peace theory
its not about democracy
rwx nope it’s about the democratic peace theory
Theory is correct… one that has NEVER been proven.
I don’t give a shit about Democracy. I do care about eliminating the middle east as a threat.
Threat? lmfao what threat?
Its about Putting weapons of mass destruction in the hands of a president who is apocalyptic and would love to reign in the end of the world. Armaijad has in his past anyway and not distant pass admitted that to his own people, I have see internal video of him talking to other jihadist holy warriors.
To the global dominance of western civilization.
And he commands an army of Hezbollah which publicly claims non muslims are pigs and monkeys and its perfectly ok to kill them because they arent human. And you can enslave them. Or rape them
WE are the world’s threat… ask them (the world countries) about how they respect the USA… people come here to make money. That’s it. The right to potentially live “free” through earning capitial from your fellow human being.
No, *Jews* are pigs and monkeys.
And they are trying to accumulate regional powers which threaten our interests.. and peace.
Not just any non-muslim.
Yaakov lol
America doesnt want to go to war with anyone..
It’s true.
Yaakov shalom ma nishma
Yaak, yes Jews are but so are christians, atheists, Buddhists and Hindus
I know everyone picks on the Jews it’s terrible
I have heard it from their leaders mouth
b’Seder, gam lecha?
I have heard him say christians atheists buddhists and hinduss
b’seder B’H aren’t you impressed I’m learning
But if it was any people it would be as vile.
People come here, which is the bottom line. There’s a reason for that, despite all the bullshit about the “threat” that western civilization and the unprecedented individual liberty it has brought to the world poses.
The “pigs and monkeys” comes from a story connected with the Koran. It is about a group of Jews that abandoned Sabbath observance and were turned into pigs and monkeys as punishment. So, it specific to the Jews.
I see no point in that statement… running around attacking the rest of the semi-”civilized” world b/c we can is ludacrous. NOBODY else is on some huge campaign to do so, why?
were they turned back?
I must be a pig and not know it, then.
I don’t speak conversational Ivrit, so you will quickly be more fluent than I am.
I watch TV and IRC on Shabbat.
And frankly, I don’t give a rat’s ass about that threat that we pose to backward and evil governments and ideologies.
The point is I am trying to teach people who may not give a damn about jews that the threat isnt only to jews. I do give a damn about jews and lebanese people and even iranian civilians. But for selfish bigots who may not give a damn about jews, They need to know its not only jews they want to kill, They want to kill any non moslem. thats Hezbollah, all these different groups have different ideas, this is hezbollah.
Yaakov awww well then we can do lots of things to compliment each other
Iran says it wants peace
Gromit shame on you
PickleWrk= “evil, backward” are very subjective.
And to put a fine point on it, *descendants* of pigs and monkeys.
How can it want peace when it RULES Hezbollah
one of us must die
Are actions against Iraq could be said to be the 100% same reflection.
actually I don’t really care since I am not Jewish
If they think we’re a threat to the dictatorship, mysogyny and the trampling of human rights that forms the core of their “cultures”, they’re damned right.
er our
We are.
Because, supposedly, the pigs and monkeys are the forebears of the Jews.
Yaak, yeah..
Oink oink.
cops? *snicker*
thx
rebec
Yaak, yes but their hatred extends far beyound JEWs. Esepecially Hezbollah.
American and Jew are the same.
WASHINGTON–U.S. Supreme Court justices on Tuesday appeared to take issue with the current legal standard for granting patents, which many high-tech firms claim is ineffective at weeding out inventions that should be obvious.
thx why are you banned in #israel
In all the rhetoric.
During hour-long oral arguments in a case that’s closely watched by the business community, Chief Justice John Roberts suggested that an existing federal court test for determining patent obviousness relied too little on common sense. Justice Antonin Scalia went so far as to call the test “gobbledygook” and “meaningless.”
Rebec same reason i told you last time
“It’s worse than meaningless because it complicates the question rather than focusing on the statute,” Roberts went on to say of the test, which requires evidence of a past “teaching, suggestion or motivation” that would lead to a particular invention in order for it to be declared “obvious.”
Fine, let’s deal with specifics: slavery, misogyny, dictatorship, and the violent suppression of freedom of speech and movement and property rights.
last time people were all why is he banned so I said I didn’t know and started chanting free thx1138 lol
I haven’t been in #israel in *years*.
So having a nation founded by corporate crooks and theives (oh let me soften it- “bootleggers” which was the “crack” of prohibition) is okay? Not paying women/minorities for 100’s of years, kicking off the native inhabitants, enslaving others etc. etc. etc. 10x fold is “okay.” We (the USA) are THE premier righteous land? Give me a break…
Yaakov I never knew you went there, there is a Ya’akov there but I know he’s not you
We are a threat to cultures that rely on these things for their identity, and we should be. I will worry when we no longer are.
I got kicked once for making a nose joke.
I was a chanop in there for years, then left. I haven’t been back for maybe 5 years.
Since 1992 the organization has been headed by Sheikh Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, its Secretary-General.
Rebec I got banned cause my idle irc client keep disconnecting and reconnecting. I simply haven’t tried to go back since then.
ya’akov is a channel op there, I mean this other one…oh ok
that guys is perhaps one of the most evil people in the world.
thx lol ok
I know Ya`akov.
Rebec i was only interested during the war
No, but having a nation run by “crooks and corporate thieves” is a far sight better than having a nation run by people attempting to institutionalize racism, homophobia, the violent suppression of religious beliefs, political freedom, free speech and property rights, as is the hallmark of the cultures and nations we are threatening.
thx cool Yaakov I figured you run in the same circles
hahaha, I remember when I would get opped in #israel But that was back when people opped anyone they liked..
And that’s why, despite our many problems, we are better than they are, as evidenced by the huge numbers of their people coming to live with us, rather than vice-versa.
PickleWrk “corporate thieves” is codeword for “i’m a whiney commie that can’t make it on my own” D:
why are so many from politics in israel
“Nintendo aims to ship one million Wiis in Japan and four million worldwide by the end of the year, rising to six million globally by March 2007. “
Montana is in Israel?
Im not confusing Nassarah with someone worse am I ? Damn I had this documentary of him speaking but now I am not certain it was him, I am pretty certain though.
Darth lol
PickleWrk= What you may not see is that…. WE ARE that nation! lmfao… All of those things you’ve listed- the USA actively participates in everday. It may not be so apparent, but a factual reality. For example at criminal sentencing bias, Look at pay scale wages, Look at the 10 fold increase in prisons that pay slave wages to workers, look at the govt that practically lets in illegal south-american workers to work like slaves and be exploited by UNPUNIS
Free, Who?
You’re right, I don’t see that, because that’s a ridiculous lie.
The head of hizbollah.
not familiar. is not Hezbollah persian?
Well, he’s kind of chubby and wears glasses.
hez’bo’allah
Anthraxus we have prisons that pay wages?? why would we pay prisoners wages?
Did the guy in the documentary match that description, rwx?
And if you think that those issues are comparable to the REAL slavery that goes on in North Korea, or the imprisoning of homosexuals in Egypt, or the violent suppression of Christians and women throughout the middle east, then I’m afraid you’ve lost any sense of perspective.
At 46, Nasrallah is also the most controversial leader in the Arab world, at the center of the most vicious new confrontation between Israel and its neighbors in a quarter-century. Yet he is not the prototypical militant. His career has straddled the complex line between Islamic extremist and secular politician. “He is the shrewdest leader in the Arab world,” Israeli Ambassador to the United States Daniel Ayalon told me on Friday, “and the most dangerous.”
thx1138 his rant was so far out in left field even I was not going to touch it. that was just one scary falsehood among many.
DarthBurg maybe he’s from bizarro universe.
Naw, just another village idiot from Donkistan
hehe heeeehaw
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Racist or foul Language or Spam
tough call there. I wa on the fence for a bit
PickleWrk= We do not give differing sentences to Black males Vs white males for the same crime? We DO pay women the same $1/hr pay scale? The Govt is taking the highest priority to protect our boarders? Business’s have been warned about HUGE fines that would incur for hiring said illegals? Prisoners ARE being paid the minimum wage for the same work as non-prisoners? Wow… name the legislation bills enacted on this and what administrative cabinate enacted
Ok I am confused.. I may be mixing him up with someone else.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39800000/jpg/_39800141_nasrallah300ap.jpg
hes evil enough but I want the name of the guy who said that even Buddhists need to be wiped out, this is the first time I recall a terrorist saying this about Buddhism which is why it caught my attention so heavily
Here’s what we don’t do: We don’t shoot black males for being blacks. We don’t refuse to allow women to work, period. We DO pay people, as opposed to sending them to slave labour camps. That’s the difference between us and the enemy, and why they are evil and we aren’t.
“enemy? What “enemy?” what have they done to use? er us
lol
Al Queda…sure But WHO else?
painful willful ignorance. a classic case.
This never ending hunt for the “enemy…” that’s our problem.
Man what a sick fucker.
Today on news they have proof that hezbollah has trained shiet muslims for Sadar they work for Iran I would call that my enemy
No, our problem is people who refuse to acknowledge that there are many people trying to destroy western civilization, because they perceive it as a threat to their power base.
text book case of the tolerance of stupidity.
hi midave
Our problem is also assholes who try to morally equivocate between us and truly evil cultures and governments.
NOBODY is trying to destroy canada… i wonder why (no jokes please! lol)
whats to destroy?
As if there’s no difference between sentencing bias and genocide.
Canada is western…
what’s there to destroy in canada anyway?
hey rebec
oh wait you said no jokes
no one cares what happens to canada. even canadians. why should terror?
no one knows canada is there
i care about Canada….hockey rules
As if “wage slavery” and REAL slavery are at all the same thing.
well, some canadians care
If you cannot address your own (as you’ve pointed out) SIMPLE problems Vs Genocide etc…. HOW can we be expect ourselves to properly aid other countries? Help YOURSELF before you harm yourself in attempt to aid others.
canada is so weak they will get it laters
me n me wide ass brush
midave right they could destroy the hockey rinks
That I would be down for…
amen tot hat.
Hockey sucks.
to/ that
oooooo!
um..Canada puts troops in NATO ranks…not too many other countries do that for the US
Actually terrorists would like to destroy canada but right now canada is too important and has been easy for them to use for their terrorist missions.B ut any fool in the west who thinks he is immune or safe from terrorism based on hatred of him by people who dont know him dont know who the enemy is.
I’m not interesting in aiding other countries and cultures, as I said at the beginning. I’m interested in eliminating those which pose a threat to the security of the west, and the rest can do what the fuck they want to one another.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Canada+terrorist+cell
I can admit when i am unfairly harsh of Canada.
terrorists cannot and will not destroy America
it does, especially North American style
KoBushi= those are a safe-haven staging ground for attacks directed toward the USA… you know this already, don’t front
only America will destroy America
nice
lets see the American enemy list North Korea, Russia, Iran, Syria, China, Turkey, Veniceula,
No, terrorists can merely kill tens of thousands in the attempt.
MiDave not will but may
Anthraxus I don’t speak ebonics, what does “don’t front” mean?
SweetLeaf= don’t forget those south americans down there!
let me translate MiDave’s nonsense for ya, “It’s the USA’s Fault”
That’s not an acceptible outcome and my choice is to take such steps as are necessary to prevent that from happening.
oh Christ…go run and hide then
shit I need to find that documentary or article where some islamic leader talked about the need to even slaugter Buddhists.
DarthBurg thats not what he is trying to say
the Conservative pussis of America .. pussies
http://www.nti.org/d_newswire/issues/2006_11_28.html#F078C08A
How can you possibly say buddhists deserve it ?
o/~ Blame Can-a-daaaa o/~
That proves its not our actions its not our actions its who we are.
Turkey’s not an enemy. Turkey’s in NATO.
the paranoia overwhelms me…
Period
You know how it is when someone is rich someone is always trying to take it or mad because you are rich same thing with countries we are a very rich country
If you support the position of allowing that to happen, then go ahead and support politicians who agree with you.
DarthBurg the terrorists can not destroy neither USA nor any other western democratic nation
oh God…were all gonna die…
But these nations can destroy themselves by running into trillion dollar deficits
MrNemirof hey, “America will destroy herself” sounds a lot like “Its the USA’s fault there is trouble in the world”
and putting security ahead of personal liberties
Anthraxus despite your ghetto-speak, no those cells weren’t all aiming at the US, many were aiming to bomb sites in Canada
and by spending too much money and effort bombing innocent people.
great circular logic Darthburg..
its yours, not mine.
I agree the conservative pussies who dont have the balls to go to war against a country which has threatened us directly along with every other party of people who fear and believe that appeasement will satisfy these bastards.
if i disagree with those bog govt Republican Conservatives…then Im a hate America liberal…
I support politicians who believe in the idea (which transcends the “left/right” division, by the way) that western civilization is good, and that protecting it and the people who live within it from attack is important.
see, I do not think america will destroy itself, I think it will have some “Help”
Or that leaving their lands will satisfy them or stop doing buisness with them
well..i hope you will like the unemployment heading your way
SweetLeaf= the main reason all of these places cannot stand “us” is that for centruries our govt/corporations have been stealing and robbing other countries of resources and rights, blind! Installing fake/puppet dictators, corrupting economies, fixing votes etc… all in the ECONOMIC TERRORISM plan that we carry out daily against nations rich in resources we do not have, but desparately need to maintain our fivilous, trivial consumption based lifestyles..
keep fighting the boogeyman
Who is he talking too ?
Pickle now explain me how are 12 air carriers and $500 bill a year defence budget are going to help fight terrorism?
MiDave if you knew me, you would know I am no big GOV republican.
Darth…thats what you all say
History demonstrates that great civilizations die by suicide.
MiDave standard misdirection and denial, got anything else to toss in here?
it will in part, by allowing for forward projections of power worldwide, intimidating nations supporting or hosting terrorists
Unemployment has gone down since the war began.. And isolationism and protectionism is the quickest way to kill this economy is =are
Darth…you make excuses for the GOP..thus you are the GOP
Anthraxus why not the russians or china or england or france or germany or we aint the only ones
any nation supporting terrorism at the moment is summarily weaket than 2 US air carriers why have 12?
Giving it to people who want to dictate to us we must be isolationists and not do business with certain people in the world.
*weaker
fuck them
really? then does that not stand to reason one would be a donkey if you breyed like such?
your canada was created by the same thing you say the usa did
noone tells us who we can and cant do buisness with.
i do not brey….
MiDave and, I would love to hear an excuse I have made for the GOP
but they kind of do cause we can’t do business with cuba
all you liberal fuckers are used to having everything
Darth..i have seen you talk the talk….i dont save posts…i have a life
take Iran. There is no doubt they finance Hesbollah, that their government is anti-democratic and oppressive and fundamentalist etc.
sweetleaf such language from you
do with out and see how you are with other ppls money
MiDave in other words, you are quite full of shit, as usual. nice.
But we do not need 12 air carriers to deal with Iran. 1 will kick ass just as good
SweetLeaf= most of the problem lies with POWER struggles… look at the middle east for example. They are very unstable b/c there is a HUGE opportunity for 1-2 groups to take complete reign over the nation and direct it’s course. people WILL turn as violent and revert to whatever it takes when there’s a chance to pull themselves to the TOP.
I would love everyone to see this documentary I saw to learn the truth. So they wouldnt be ignorant and blind.
it’s not just Iran, though. it’s Iran, NK, China, other rivals real or potential.
Iran is the strongest
no, China’s much stronger than Iran.
China doesnt support terrorism, in fact it has its own troubles with rebellious muslims (uigurs)(
it’s not just about terrorism.
NK is weak
China is terrorist
it’s about force projection generally when facing rivals.
well antraxsus just let the enemy have everything we can all just subvert to their wishes
I am not anti Arab, I am not anti muslim in fact I think most are decent people who want peace. but there is a faction which is hell bent on murder they had attacked our sovereignty at least 5 times before 911
I ment submit
Timur that’s a wrong approach which only leads to China increasing their military potential
speaking of real life, later
we don’t go out looking for enemies. Our enemies have made it clear who they are. Iran, North Korea, and Al Qaeda have been unambiguous in that regard.
lies! you’re always talking about invading Saudi Arabia and blowing up Mecca! jk
They are our enemies, they make no secret of it, and they overtly are devoted to destroying the pre-eminence of the west.
nowadays, competition is not in the military but economic and diplomatic fields
no, it’s the only valid approach, and China would be increasing its military anyway, because it can, and has other rivals besides - Taiwan, Japan, and even Russia, to name the main ones. it’s actually in all those fields, including military.
They hate bush because he is the first president in eight years to say no
If you even accept the idea of military competition with China, then its… Cold War-2 do yo uwant that? I dont.
SweetLeaf= Well, we wouldn’t have so many “enemies” if we didn’t have our hand deep in there cookie jar of natural resources…
yaweh?
besides China, Taiwan and Japan are allies and Russia is too weak to pose any threat to anybody
actually, nm that paper asserts your point, that military power’s unimportant, or at least less so
If it wasnt our hand it would be china or russia or turkey or
Russian army is self-destroying due to hazing and corruption and poverty
Russia, Taiwan and Japan are all rivals of China
We don’t have our hands in anyone’s resource cookie jar. We pay tremendous and increasingly large quantities of treasure for the resources of the countries we do business with, which is why for all his blather Hugo Chavez isn’t blowing up his oil rigs to defeat the Evil Americans.
rivals as in economy; not enemies, as in military you have to separate those 2 definitions
Canada is America’s most important natural resource partner.
stupid ppl elect Putin now they wont be able to get rid o him
that was a really stupid thing to do.. electing an ex-KGB officer to be the president
putin has his hand in everything selling missles to Iran he aint no freind to usa
I’d dispute that in the long term that there isn’t overlap
ofcourse he was going to rule the country just like he is used to do business inside KGB
the supreme court is hearing a case on software patents
exactly. Russia follows Russian interest, China, its own, etc.
and what makes a feautre too ‘obvious’ to patent
a string of murders in the last 2 months
or tech patents in general
noone is the US friend….
Timur and the evil USA cant follow their interest??
they only want something from us
lol
money-bribes…weapons…protection…
the US its own as well
IS THERE ANY BRAZILIAN HERE??????????/
Needless to say, much more successfully than others
I love this whole “enemy” chat… so vague and baseless… hardly a shred of factual statistical evidence rendered… just clucking chicken talk.
that’s why a strong .mil is essential for our interests, along with economic strength, political strength, etc. each reinforces the other
Hmm You know I am so interested now to make sure I have the right individuals and groups I am going to try to find that documentary I think I saved it.
Why does the world hate the US and Russia and China and the rest get a free ride Putin just killed a guy and everyone knows it
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Timur yes US needs a strong military but not that strong just enough to counter threats
the US military is overkill..
right now, it is considered to be a threat by others
how strong is ‘that’ strong?
its a welfare/warfare state
I love how you ignore salient points so that you can bloviate about how your opponents offer nothing but substance.
again, 12 air carriers are useless
but=of
same notion…same outcome
But it is like haha them KGB guys are at it again
unless we go to war against the whole world
good, because they need to consider us a threat, because if we’re not considered a threat, other nations will push harder and it’ll be against our interests. or, at least a possible threat. a small dinky military that’s no threat means we have less credibility and power, and.. that’s not good.
Timur what do you udnerstand by interests?
I understand many interests, political, economic, military, cultural, etc.
like the founders of the US knew….idle troops will find mischief…..and the govt with find mischief for them….
bloviate, what a word!
but hey..its a new paradigm
PickleWrk= heck the ball is in YOUR court… your so-called “enemy” rants… Where’s your proof then? Where are the facts backing up your statments about NEEDING to destroy, murder, maim and kill in the nation of protectionism… From WHO? What threat do they pose? WHERE are your facts. Forget opinions, where’s the meat?
okay lets take economic since everything else is supposed to serve those right?
I guess if post-WWII is ‘new’.. they’re all intertwined
we cant go back……why…b/c thats not what your Master wants….
because we have vested interests and mutual dependencies
you have a master?
is why.
we all have Masters
unless you want to get your fat behind off irc, reduce your energy usage, and go live in a log cabin, then sure.
Right.. do you really think if we he had less air carriers we would be lied to?
we are all on the plantation
nice one Timur
or kicked our asses?
but some of us recognize that….some drink the Koolaid
The proof of what? That we have enemies? The overt statements and propaganda of Iran, Al Qaeda, and North Korea is self-evident proof of that. And well they should consider themselves our enemies, since our culture erodes their positions by its very existence.
We buy oil from Saudi Arabia if you wanna discuss energy security
we’re lied to all the time. Question is, would we be able to do anything about it with a smaller military? Open question, but certainly reducing the mil past a certain point pretty obviously reduces our effective ability to project power.
how does $500 bill a year mil. budget help US achieve that?
