11.30.07

You call yourself a hard core libertarian yet youre for all manner of foreign interventionist adventures FreeTrade

Posted in Politics at 11:19 pm by Michael Johnson

r… to steal usmale’s heart

the JMS

eww Ikea

I love Ikea

You know the US and the UN all the US Is trying to say is stop the one sided attacks on Israel, and start acknoleging the daily missile attacks by palestinian militants.

It’s not even Swedish anymore JanetB!

you had me at “hello”

Cheap chinese junk

still love it

junk!

usmale “hello world.”

Wal-Mart quality junk!

redfish:Ahh wish ahh could quit you

I bought the most beautiful tables and chairs and serving tables for the formal dinning room and kitchen there!

I tried ! IKEA doesn’t seem to list couches on its site. .I’m like what the hell I saw them when I was there

It’ll fall apart! Right in the middle of thanksgiving dinner!

Timur-… I know they sell them, I bought one for the den there

turkey crashing to the floor, cranberry sauce flying everywhere!

jhicks.. no I have had them 3 years now they are fablous

But anyway, Can we change the topic, this topic always ends up in a mess

I know! my gf makes me go to Ikea every possible chance she gets

hehehe

what kind, and how much?

swedes dont use couches , they use beanbags

http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?topcategoryId=15585&catalogId=10103&storeId=12&productId=18371&langId=-1&categoryId=15944&chosenPartNumber=20040482

I’d be careful this year for sure then!

nah, too low of a back I remember that one

it is a whit couch.. with 3 back pillows and 3 seat pillows…. it was like 299 e

That’s why a Swede’s back is shaped like the interior of a beanbag

Timur-: I recommend finding something nice and vintage

if you don’t believe me, ask Koook

First thing my chinese sister in law noticed in the bay area was Ikea hahaha

hehe

They are building a Ikea in BEijing and chengdu

how about this? http://tinyurl.com/a6ey6

It’s not the Chinese that are to blame for the low quality crap, it’s the multinationals who hire the work done

beanbags are good baby chairs, they can’t get out

Well she was Slated to go to school in Sweden before she met my brother 4 years ago

is your chinese sister in law related to any Polish people? I think they may be related. .her and my gf

put the bbay in the beanbag, he’s out. No trouble *baby

or 3

err he’s out like a light

lol @ Swede’s back

hehehe

Timur haha

some of these comments are bound to be funny ! if I make enough

Timur-: it’ll stain too easily Timur-: get a brown one

Timur-…http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/IkeamsNews?storeId=12&catalogId=10103&langId=-1&categoryId=15585&new=1

Mick Jagger’s dad died ;(

woah

he musta been pretty old

I didn’t think ANYONE was older than Mick Jagger

hmm I like that corner sofa

Janet:” which one there?

Let me warn you as a professional, Ikea furniture you need to be careful its mostly cheaply built.

I only need one that fits 2-3 people

they won’t listen to me

ok well there is a whole page

and poorly built

http://www.ikea.com/PIAimages/60006_PE165949_S4.jpg like that

“LONDON (AP) - The father of Rolling Stones frontman Mick Jagger died of pneumonia Saturday, a spokesman for the singer said. He was 93.”

yeah, couches are expensive as hell

you might as well buy a couch at K-Mart

NOW we know why Mick cannot be killed genetics Mick will survive us all

this one is nice for 2 or 3 people…http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/IkeamsNews?storeId=12&catalogId=10103&langId=-1&categoryId=15585&new=1

Keith too

when Mick Jagger is 93 he’ll still be frenchkissing Keith Woods

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WAVES

haha, that was creative anyway

it makes my eyes feel nice

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good job looking out on that one, guys

thanks troll ppl

did you get that url Timur?

“LONDON (AP) - The father of Rolling Stones bigmouth Mick Jagger died of pneumonia Saturday, a spokesman for the singer said. He was 93.”

1] * moderatum sets mode: +vvvv [1]suck [2]my [3]huge who saw that coming?

yeah, it brings up that same page with a whole bunch of couches

Dont get me wrong/mode #politics +b *[*!*@*

TimothyT hates rock and roll

[7]lol 3is banned (Requested by TheTailor )

Violating Channel Rules

no this one…http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/IkeamsNews?storeId=12&catalogId=10103&langId=-1&categoryId=15585&new=1

./nick [T]imur

wheeee

jk

oops on Nate[r]

nah it’s just my reading that needs to be *corrected*

Ok now let me get his real ip

good job ops !!

the rebellion was crushed

haha TimothyT that guy does have large lips

what new

ok, off to watch some vintage john wayne toodles

bai!

john wayne was a gay homosexual marion

Anyone believe that a drone took those pictures of the american aircraft carrier ? I dont believe it., OR I believe the US knew it and didnt care

a gay homosexual

Defense Minister Abdul-Qadir al-Obaidi rejected calls by al-Maliki for the U.S. military to speed transfer of security operations throughout the country to the Iraqi army, saying his men still were too poorly equipped and trained to do the job.

?

freetimer what pictures?

Probably ascertained that it wasnt armed and didnt care

FT, what pictures?

FreeTimer - what drone and what pictures?

are there non-gay homosexuals ?

see the news , its all over the news

usmale, rosie odonnell

nah she’s gay

Iran, claims they had a drone spy on our aircraft carrier which gave them revealing information about american equipment.. What nonsense

rosie odonnell is the coolest person in the universe

his men still were too poorly equipped and trained to do the job. Defense Minister says his men not ready

There is nothing on top of a aircraft carrier which is a secret

Al-Maliki says they are and US should get out

Iran is just bullshitting as usual

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,228882,00.html

Its probably an old newsreel file from the US media the quality is horrible I want war with Iran I really do

thats horrible, 159 dead in iraq today due to violence

How is it possible for any woman who can pour boiling hot wax on herself, then pull it off, yanking her hair out by the roots, still be afraid of spiders?

td` i was saying 2 days ago it’s gonna be a violent weekend.

Lupine on average, humans are more afraid of spiders than they are of death figure that one out

cause brutally yanking out hair makes her look good, but spiders are icky.

maliki is blaming the sunnis and he wants to reshuffle the government now

td` its what happens when dems send messages that the insurgency is working

FT, war is a lot of trouble, it’s so busy

td`; he wants a shiite only gov’t td`; an iranian gov’t

Bombing Iran is no problem for me

that’ll work out good

td`; AND he’s saying he can bring peace in 6months w/o the US there

Iran has declared war on us..

Diplomats say Hamas foreign minister has endorsed Arab proposal for Palestinian-Israeli peace conference

i can live with spiders.. i can’t live with hairy women

amen!

Its not like we wouldnt be doing anything countries usually do when countries declare war on them

unless that hair is all ON their heads

Iran declared war on the U.S? when/where?

proposal 1: no more Qassam rockets

IamKing um.. “heads”? if your woman has more than one “head”.. hair is your last worry..

I want war with Iran — The Republicans lost Congress, and the neoconservatives have been marginalized. Its not going to happen, and not just because its a terribly stupid idea.

you said “women”

didnt we name iran in the “axis of evil”? thats not very nice , they did nothing wrong

so I am keeping with the plural form

We hjave put our faith in the moderate youth of Iran and they are moderate.. But they arent going to overthrow their own government and it wont happen no matter what we do in time before our moment of reckoning comes

in fact. in history

oa,” here

they did nothing wrong? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

i’d say america has done more wrong than iran so why arent we axis of evil

of course you would…you live with your head up your ass

You call yourself a “hard core libertarian” yet you’re for all manner of foreign interventionist adventures, FreeTrade?

iamking we firebombed and dropped nuclear bombs on innocent people thats evil

With Iran, we have no choice but to stop them from getting a nuke, God might decide he wants them to use it. At least in NK Kim Jung doesnt want to die.

nope…a necessary tactic to defeat our enemies who first attacked us

Sard, then I hope to god your not an american citizen

Obviously we do have a choice. Iran WILL acquire nuclear weapons. just accept and deal with it.

or the FBI is watching you if you are.

he’s a resident of Washington state charming, ain’t he?

Disbelief A) We wont allow it, B) If we are stupid enough to allow it, Israel will not.

america is a wolf in sheeps clothing and no im not proud of being one

Timur, oh great, potential Terrorist in washington state.

why is the fbi watching him

oh great freetimer wants to throw me in the gulags for having an opinion

yep! I’d happily play the capo to your political prisoner for a mere extra portion of bread!

A. we have little control over allowing or disallowing it, really. and B. What reckless policies Israel MIGHT have is no basis for OUR foreign policy.

td, I said i hope they are, anyone who thinks an evil Islamic sociopath is better than the USA hes probably a terrorist, a terrorist sympathiser or just an idiot

why is mahmoud evil

‘they= should at least investigate to rule out th efirst 2.

sure we do

no, we should euthanize you for being absolutely retarded

if its just an idiot then let him be

he’s a highly educated (in america even) gentle man

or maybe someone who is sick of the current direction of the U.S.

we bomb the crap out of a good % of their nuke facilities

Shit, A lot of terrorists are highly educated so what ?

mahmoud would not kill innocent people to secure wealth, he is a humble man of God america abandoned God

keep trolling, and you might get a boot up your ass, forcing your head up your rectum just that much further

Howdy folks

Timur - That option has pretty much been ruled out as high risk / little gain.

And I didnt say mahmoud is evil, You mean the palestinian mahmoud ? Or someone else ?

mahmoud ahmedinijad

it has?

the Iranian one

allah bless him

compared to a good strong unified regime of sanctions, sure, it’s not the preferred option

sard = trolling asshat

but failing that, it’s the only option left, and I’d bet money it’d be used if it came to that

iamking you seem to be the one trolling

Hes an evil fucker who i have seen Iranian tv of his declaring jihad on the uSA, Holy war to death and the goal of eventually destroying the USA

Timur - i *believe* so, yes. The things i’ve read from military analysis of such an operation lead me to think that its not going to happen, or it would have already.

you have projection problems

Hes one of the religous fanatics who believe in Jihad..

don’t go by Seymour Hirsch alone

freetimer well maybe he sees america has been overrun with evil and greed he is not perfect no one is

he’s basically a religious mafia zealot seeking nukes and to extend Iranian influence in the Mideast all good enough reasons to kick his ass

I wouldn’t bother…facts just bounce off sard’s thick skull with his Class X force field of stupidity and ignorance

lol

I am using the commonly accepted definition of Jihad, I recognize the literal definition is diffe=rent, but today the way even the terrorists use the term means death by war against the infidels, atheists, jews, christians, Buddhists and Hindus. They hate the Buddhists more than any of them

talk about religious zealots….washington DCs layout is in the shape of a PENTAGRAM, with an egyptian OBELISK as the focal point

And the Buddhists are probably the most peaceful of all of the religions I mentioned

oh right, thats real nice and Jesus like

who the fuck said that freetimer was a Christian?

But to the Jihadists used in the context I spoke of all Buddhists must die

uh, Jesus and geopolitics don’t really mix well or much

Timur - of course not, but the rest of the world would find it hard, if not impossible to back the US for taking military action against a non-nuclear power in Iran when it does little or nothing but talk tough to a country that tests nuclear weapons (NK, most recently.)

well, we’ll see how it goes in 2 years

Ive heard them in thier won words… in documentaries

timur now youre getting it.

please pull your head out of your ass before your sphincter decapitates your worthless skull…oh wait, on second thought…

I already got it, thanks

so fight the new world order and these evil globalist scum because they are AGAINST JESUS and EVERYTHING GOOD they worship MONEY

Timur - yeah. i think the sad fact is that the chief determinant of Iran acquiring nukes is Iran. That’s why i think its going to happen.

sard worships rectum…his own

NWO stole my tv

no, I think we should acknowledge the world order, and seek to maximize it to the extent it imposes order in a largely lawless world and promotes the exchange of ideas and goods.

NWO stole my marbles!!!

I told you guys I wathc a lot of documentariaes, at least from time to time, and I know about Iran, and its leaders, and I know about Fidel Castro. I know who these people are. I know who Hisbollah is. Nothing you could do would make them stop trying to killl jews and christians and others Nothing This is thier purpose in life.

hah

they are trying to acquire them, and we’d be stupid to not rise to that challenge

what does fidel castro have to do with that

cigars.

And please note I am not talking about Moderate Islam, Like I said most Iranian youth are not jihadists, they want more liberty

right, they are a cancer that must be removed quickly and effectively before they spread their death elsewhere to the body of humanity

Clinton smoked cigars. SEE?

the leaders of Iran are Jihadists

freetimer if they werent sitting on oil rich nations ,would it be their purpose

Timur - i agree, but being REALISTIC about what we can and should do in that persuit is important. sometimes there just are no good options.

Armenaijad in particular

freetimer is spreading propaganda

SP No I have heard him say it himself. Andpeople here knoew me. they know I dont lie about this shit.

and ahmedinijad is a highly educated politician, not exactly a suicide bomber

They have seen me critisize Isrsel when I have seen it justified.. by my perspective.

he’s promoting suicide bombing he funds and trains suicide bombers by government directive

thats all speculation

So Im not a shill for israel, I say what I say because its true or its my opinion. When I state a fact its a fact.

Lol. Homer is going off to the Army

prove it and bring him to justice for his crimes against humanity like germany is trying to do with rumsfeld

Armenijad says he is a fellow jihadist.

well, in a choice between ’shitty military options with some effectiveness’ and ’shitty passivity with none’, we’ll choose the former, if those are the only choices.

ahmadenijad was here at the UN

let’s face it, you are addicted to IDFgirlsNaked.com

Now he may be lying and he may not want to die, be may want others to die for his goal, but I dont want to take any chances with him.

why didnt we arrest him and try him like saddam ?????? ?????

He might sacrifice all the people of Iran to nuke Washington DC

haha

that would’ve been great

Timur - the problem is that the “effetiveness” of it is probably vastly outweighed by the repercussions.

he might find it worth the dead muslims..

the world community knows nothing of crimes against humanity until it affects them directly

m.. the repercussions of a nuclear Iran are to be weighed against any such repercussions

then and only then is it out of their own self-preservation…a day late and a dollar short

Timur, heh that web site brings up nothing.

(of military action vs Iranian nuke sites)

just kiding.

gotcha!

I didnt check

lies

“nuke sites”

http://independentsources.com/2006/08/30/femtroopers/

lol

nuclear R&D sites

guys, why is the capitals layout that of a PENTAGRAM answer me that

What do you think about Al-Maliki saying that his army can crush violence in 6months if left alone to do so

The thing people in the world need to ralize because this is the absolute truth, The President of iran told other Jihadists ( Agroup dedicated to dying for the goal of killing others ) that he too was a jihadist..And h was in soladarity with them

ahahah! http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b7978b75d24.htm

This guy may look like a clown and smile and seem harmless as a mouse but his vision is mass murder

is it because america was founded by lucifer worshipping masonic guys ?

he actually comes off as nothing more than a thug if you’ve seen him interviewed

sard, Wake up, Quit trolling, or get educated, expose yourself to truth.

just asking questions this stuffs out in the open but no one has answers because youve all been sheepled

what fucken out in the open what sard what

Go to your movie theater, and get some documentaries on this president, and dont be dishonest and get ones which show him as progpaganda, get a nuetral party doumentary on him..

the capital of our country, washington DC is laid out in the form of a pentagram

you’re the one so busy fucking sheep

with an egyptian obelisk as the centerp oint whats that about

I saw one by a muslim who is terrified of Iran and the Jihadists.. But not too terrified to expose them.

sard stop fucking trolling

sard = NWO wacko

guys im not trolling, this is an honest question

no, it’s not

look up washington DC on google maps behold

where can i get neutral documentaries on the president of iran

you haven’t been “honest” since you joined this channel

again the people if iran are not Jihadiss, the youth who are outside these circles of religious fanatics. they want more american style freedoms..

he can have whatever opinion he wants IamKing

td` when they make one you dumb ass

right

nice gopp

most iranians are good people, but the “religious right” are a bit weird

td`: indeed he can…and he can also get booted for being a trolling asshat, just like you can

in america history comes in 2 flavors, the one you guys know and the real truth im in pursuit of the real truth not the Walt Disney version

however, i think their president is rather dangerous

And they get in trouble for it all the time, I saw a docuemntary on that too, they literally havemorality police which go to places iranians date and they punish women for weating lipstick, or exposing too much ankle or hq

you guys?

FreeTrade - if this is a fact, what was the date of Ahmadinejad’s “i am a Jihadist” quote ?

Trap, that is exactly my point

you mean your “truth” as seen through your eyes covered in your own bullshit

as an anarcho-syndicalist, i take offense at that comment

\The president as I was explaining is a self descibes jihadistr whose solardarity is with those who want to destroy all not moslems.

Ahmadinejad has made many anti-semitic comments

not = non

as opposed to just anti-israeli

Trap, Nany Anti Humanity statments too

) The 8th symbol is the “Order of the Eastern Star” also a Masonic Group, although for Women.The Pentagram is a Female Symbol. It represents the Occultation of Venus by the Sun that lays out the 2 dimensional pattern of a Pentagram. More on this Elsewhere.

he’s made many anti-zionist comments nothing anti-semetic though

wrong

This guys is trying to tell me the president is a saint..

saying the Holocaust never happened is anti-semitic among other things

President of iran

he denies that the holocaust took place

he questions the holocaust, he wants to see more proof thats valid

timur so what is this occultic stuff about huh? why so much symbolism in america

he denies it happened

YOU also deny it took place?

why are so many of our presidents masons?

the masons have symbols. .and so?

I dont believe he does flat-out deny it

and so? they rule over us…and so timur what kind of power are they trying to tap in to

quite honestly i think he is just playing to the crowd

This guy is a religious fanatic who as i said I ahve seen in a documentary show solarity with a group dedicated to kill all jews, christians, buddhists, hindus, and athe3ists of course and the rest of the people not suited to this group..

FreeTimer - when did Ahmadinejad declare “solidarity” with Jihadists? i’m not saying he didn’t, but i’d like to know what quote by him you’re referencing

According to numerous media reports, he stated that “they have invented a myth that Jews were massacred” http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/12/14/iran.israel/

libral media i dont trust it in brainwash

Now again like Trap, I am not trying to imply this is normal in fact its not, this is what the nutjobs believe, and Irans president is one of them.

it

ahhh td is a canadian well that explains it

I think the west’s and this channel’s preoccupation with Ahmadinejad is overblown. I think he plays up this false image for various reasons, but i don’t think its particularly accurate.

ever read anything he has said in his speeches in iran?

of course i have.

maybe ahmadinejad is CIA….

Disbelief, he was talking to hezzbollah I believe.

or since you do not go to iran, the liberal media cannot be trusted to report them correctly?

in the documentary I saw

yes, everyone is everything, and therefore, no one is anything, and so, no analysis is possible, so nevermind

he’ll be flown out of the country and given plastic surgery just like saddam

and the leader of hezzbollah has pledged to murder all these people buddhists, hindus, it is glory to god to kill them

yes the man on trial is not the real saddam

He’s a politician in a place where there’s an overwhelming distrust/hatred of Jews/Israel, that he says these things isn’t particularly surprising.

saddam actually has a liquor store in brooklyn…. the guy in the photos of the trial in baghdad is an actor

it is not woese than killing a goat for food.

saddam had a regal overbite this imposter has a gnarly underbite

tehran has a large population of jews, and there is jewish representation in the iranian government

and whyd he decide a beard is his new look

why isnt he killing them

Sound familiar ? Hitler said that to a nazi collaborative country when the leader said of the jews, We cant jsut kill them afterall.

if he hates jews so much

until the iranian revolution, there were many jews in iran, and they were respected by most people

hitler then explained why you can kill jews and you should in fact.

no longer a “large number”

define lage jewish population?

fuck

most of them left

Trapezoid - there were never really “many” there, but there still are some.

well, when you combine that with 1) support for Hezbollah, 2) rising aspirations in Iraq and the Gulf region generally, and 3) an active pursuit of nuclear weapons, it’s much more of an issue.

Iforget the nation mybe he former checkslovakia ?

US + Isreal = 13 million or 14

hence the frequent use of the term ‘existential threat’

I dont rememebr which leader

25K Jews in Iran

actually there were perhaps 3-4 % of the population

http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,1807160,00.html

but now, only some thousands

Hezbollah you really need to see thier internal proprganda videos. Not the stuff they send to the worldl

i don’t think there are that many left today

The stuff intended for recruits only

what makes you say that do you have any proof any of them left

say what?

14 million world wide

yup i do i helped some leave

Timur - He’d be saying these things in the absense of those factors, i believe. He correctly knows that he can GET AWAY with being a geopolitical provocatuer, and he’s milking it for all its worth. The US has given him increased leverage by 1.) invading Iraq, and 2.) failing in Iraq.

7 million in or so in the USA 5-6 million in israel and 2 million in europe

Iran had 100K or more Jews before 1948

I think there are still the 25,000 jews in Tehran and they are living just fine

roughly

and when i went to iran in 1980, i couldn’t find any of the jews i used to know in teheran

14 million or less

you think

how did you get into Iran in 1980 ???

but i have been there

perhaps, but that doesn’t mean that the US and/or Israel should discount them, or fail to rise to the challenge and obvious danger the statements imply, esp when combined with rising hegemonic and nuclear ambition.

so perhaps i might have a better idea

i doubt it

you are iranian? or have you been there lately?

well, fine = no worse than Iranian minorities generally, but can’t hold any high posts in gov’t

you did a jew headcount in Tehran?

yes actually

Prior to 1980s, there were a number of jews in Iraq, sizeable number for a majority islamic nation

Timur - oh i agree. you don’t dismiss them out of hand, especially when a prominent public figure such as him says them, but you have to take into account the environment and context in which he’s saying these things.

right, and the context is a country asserting its strength in many ways, and that’s to be taken seriously, imo try 500,000

morocco yemen even a few in afghanistan

Timur - Sure. Military intervention at this point is just a wrong-headed, reactionary, and reckless idea though. I know you’re not for that.

well I need to watch this.

many in india, in bombay

Documentary on vietnam rightnow.

maybe not at this exact point, but the problem is we don’t know how far along their nuclear program is hopefully someone has an idea in the US intel community

i think the israeli intel about iran is much better than the US intel

Timur - i think there is a vague concensus that they’re more than a couple years away, under present circumstances.

the last keeper of the synagogue in Dushanbe died sure.. either / both

since many israelis speak fluent farsi, and can blend in

well, 2 years is really different from, say 15

however, if they build the capacity to reprocess uranium, all bets are off, they’ll have the bomb, essentially.

Soi Bien In vietnamese

since many israelis speak fluent farsi, and can blend in??

timur - sure, i don’t think its possible to degrade their ability back 15 years though air attacks alone.

Anyone want to guess ?

really? since when?

they basically have figured out the process

anyone ?

There’s a little more to it than just reprocessing

enrich uranium

Sea Wolf

well, I think the logic would be that it would degrade it by a couple of years, but also let them know that it won’t be allowed.

yup, just a tad more to it

they rebuild, it’s bombed again that’s right. I met a Tehrani Jew in Tel Aviv, and I knew one from Tabriz in Philly, and the President of Israel grew up in Iran.

problem with “bombing” their facilities is that there are more than 20-30 sites, and nobody knows where all of them are also, they are buried deep in the ground

Timur - it could seriously backfire, and cause them to redouble their efforts to acquire nuclear weapons, and potentially win them sympathy from a world that is presently averse to what Iran’s doing. Victimizing them at this point would be foolish.

iranians been very sneaky

fine, bombing half would still really inhibit their program.

the street called “ferdosi” in teheran was full of jewish shops

Well they asked me to play the new James Bond, but I turned them down.. I said I would not play a sexist role!

eh, the EU doesn’t want Iran to have nukes

ask your irani friends about it

trapezoid are you iranian?

disbelief, well that depends on who does it, didn’t the EU3 fail to resolve this?

interesting Ferdo(w)si was a poet, if I recall a Sufi? can’t remember.

Timur - Also, unilateral US bombing of Iran would be dicey at best.

yeah! Shahname

it runs into takte-jamshid

well, it’s not necessary to assume it’d be unilateral

trapezoid are you iranian?

Anything the USA does or doesnt do, is dicey

no

Why would it be unilateral?

aren’t iran’s enrichment efforts gaseous deffusion or gas centrifuge based?

i am african

but it’s dicier still to have a nuclear Iran.

from chad

how do you know these stuff?

lol

iranians just want to destroy israel

id we live our lives doing trying to please everyone we do so at our own peril

comment ca va, mon ami?

not all jews

not many people know about iran and tehran

at least not yet

tchadieen

very mysterious country

obviously you try to appeal to peoples better senses.

Timur - no other countries have expressed desire to participate in or condone pre-emptive attacks on Iran’s nuclear facillities.

i used to work in iran

oh zippe centrifuges

but if that fails you do the right thing whatever that is.

untrue

aha

well, not yet, because they’re hoping that economic and political pressure can / will work

disbelief, yet, and you don’t know what the EU3 has in mind.

However this process was also used by Pakistan in their nuclear weapons program and the Pakistani government sold the Zippe-type technology on to North Korea and Iran allowing them to develop their nuclear industry.

israel has publicly announced that if necessary they will destroy the nuclear weapon sites

disbelief, when did the US say they wanted to bomb them?

actually, they announced that last week

disbelief, or show an interest?

If israel did everthing that the UN wanted and pleased the world they would be wiped off the planet today

http://www.pbase.com/image/58068852

Not saying the UN hasnt be right a couple times, but mostly they arent.

that’s a cool photo

the mountains were great

trapezoid did you like iranian people?

I bet.. do you miss it? would you go back?

i used to go climbing every weekend in the mountains

I’d like to visit it the culture of Iran is supposed to be very sophisticated and polite, much more than the Arabs, even the Turks

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