11.01.07
i heard like scandnavain countries are like so perfect they dont even have a prison in iceland is that true
i’m probably the least politics person in this channel– i don’t watch tv, read the news, or care about american affairs
so why are you here? lol
my world is the 2 mile wide town i live in
lol nice
heh
oh wow.. where’s that?
Raccoon heh I’m often the same way.
venturing out
racoon ok cool then welcome and I’m going to bed ttyl
night
night
day morning aftermidnight
That Yams was a nice fellow.
thinking of moving
quite where to rac?
He actually came into #music looking for conversation this late at night and I directed him here.
not sure. i don’t want to venture too far– still have some connections here
my rug smells like bong water
but i’d like to end up near seattle wa, or vancouver bc maybe portland, or
thats what the internet and cell phones are for
Rule #43289 don’t put bong water in your rug steamer.
come out to euro-land!
mmm, euro-land maybe russia
once you move you feel like you lefteveryone behind but if you go back you see thatsnot such a bad thing
no no.. that place is bad, all they do is fuck out there
a nice little hut along the tracks in siberia
chrono where were you the last 3 times?
Hah!
i could have used that timly addvice
what if you use your rug steamer as your bong?
then id have to put rug cleaner in my bong
hah! I really wish I could have had some marijuana this past week when I had bad nausea from the pain pills. uI really wish I could have had some marijuana this past week when I had bad nausea from the pain pills./u
you waan hit dis mon?
I’m not a big advocate or anything but I wish it was availible for medical purposes atleast.
me sayin mon she do the bess she can for such an herbal supplement
and the channel fell asleep
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drugs are bad downt with drugs!
asperin first
Heh, in general I agree. There is a lot of bad things that comes along with drugs, but naturally there are legitimate purposes to come.
go oon
like giving old men erections..? seriously, the only “good” drugs are the ones financing political campaigns no? noone ever went to washington on coke $
if you were truly healthy… you wouldnt even need toothpaste
not true.. toothpaste counters the negs of eating, smoking, drinkin et al
smoking isnt healty numb nut
that’s like sayin you wouldnt need to shower if/when you were healthy
Well for example if I didn’t have my pain medication and my antibiotics I would probably die of shock and infection. So it’s fair to say those are legit purposes for those drugs.
no see you need to boost your imune system so you can really heal youself get off the drugs thats healthy
Chrono-Z: its legit.. but its not legit (IMO) for the government to ban heroine, then allow people to sell codeine n shit or ban coke..but allow kids to be put on adderall
whatevz, like I said earlier, I just had most of my throat cut out so no ammount of having a better immune system would help me.
since when is pot a “drug” any more than mint is a “drug”? these are herbs.
since the brown people introduced it..
niiiice good point
if i let nature take it’s course i would probably already died on infection or suffocation.
no processing takes place before its useable therefore no drug
Chrono-Z: i hear you, but many of these pain and whatever-meds have no more added benefit over the stuff they are made from or made to mimick
chrono i hate to make you doctor sound like an ass but if you were healthy they wouldnt have to cut
BigBadBuu I can agree with you in principal, but at the same time I would be worried about the ramification if mophine was freely availible i guess. whatevz actually yes they would, it was a biological defect I had.
Chrono-Z: lol do you have the right to demand that people be productive citizens?
morphine is useable raw but not to the potency were used to in the medical field
BigBadBuu no of course not, and it’s not a question of demanding they be productive really.
ok well again theres always a chance im wrong
i dunno opium is pretty powerful
doped up people dont go robbign people.. then sit around and giggle *they
opiates are controled because they control ppl
its the scarcity of drugs, that make addicts dangerious
from my perspective I’ve just seen addiction totally destroy peoples lives from the inside out so it’s that I expect people to work 9-5 clean cut I just hate to see the pain that addiction brings to people. err i mean NOT that i expect 9-5 sorry about that
lol gogo fascista
what do you mean by that?
i like that quote
its the scarcity of drugs, that make addicts dangerious
^^ Chrono-Z: the 9-5 paradigm is serfdom, repackaged
and like i said (granted i had to correct myself because a typo) I don’t demand and expect that of people. so it’s not really fair to say gogo fasciasta to me
Chrono-Z: no, i know.. it’s why i “lol’d” when i said that i was joooking
ah I’m sorry, sometimes nuances like that don’t come across on a txt medium heh
heh.. no problem, bro.
What?! A joke misunderstanding dealth with in a reasonable way in an adult-like fashion? On #Politics on EFNet?!? Now I’ve seen everything.
hah!
Where’s US-Male? We need some more nonsense in here.
what, have i broken a rule..? lol dman you LIBERAL scum.. slandering me! no no.. i’m the liberal,i guess damned neo-cons
I don’t even know what I am. Sometimes I’m a liberal and sometimes I’m a conservative. Usually I’m neither.
i’m a “hypocrit” hypocrat lol
Same here Armon, i never figured out my proper label
i’m liberal when it comes to me & mine and conservative when it comes to others.. expand my rights/freedoms, limit those of others ^^
Hehe.
hehe.. serious, its why i argue both POVs at times.. when i think “if it was me..” i’m liberal, when its “me vs them” i’m conservative ..actually, maybe i guess most people are that way
I gues. +s Someone told me the other day that I’m a Libertarian which is hard to place on the right/left scale, apparently.
yeah the say on the scale they are vertical instead of left or right i don’t get it either.
But after reading about it, it kinda makes sense.
yeah, i’m libertarian too… but that’s the forgotten party
nice people though I suppose. most of the ones i’ve meet though at young folk who lean republican but still want to smoke pot.
yeah.. in the modern us political duopoly, libertarians dont fit
Chrono-Z: Yeah, I don’t get that. The state doesn’t have the right to take your guns, but it has the right to take stuff from you that hurts no one but yourself? I truly don’t get it.
libertarians are fiscally conservative, and socially liberal that’s where teh “mismatch” comes
Hmh. Kinda makes sense.
To me they seemed to depends too much of the invisible hand of the free market and the general (but unpredictable) goodness of others for my liking
well, i’m keynesian and support limitations on the free market.. but still refuse to identify w/ democrats
I’m not as interested in the economic side as I am in the civil rights side.
world peace
we wont achieve true peace untill ww3
nooooooooo
it took ww2 and the nazis to get the europeans to behave..
no ww3
american needs to feel that too
lol
sorry to say that
im australian not american
To me, banning or even wanting to ban things like prostitution, pornography and drugs is a counter-productive result of imposed morality and a lack of what I call common sense.
well said Armon
All of which the Republican party supports banning or at least countermeasuring in a serious way.
I really don’t think world peace is really ever possible due to the nature of humans and the fact that despite how high we put ourselves on an intellectuial pedastel at times we are still pack animals.
Which I don’t get. I thought the Republican party was about lack of government control.
but i prefer traditional love, like one and only forever till the end, but it is ideal and illusional also, not practical
But it supports it in virtually every civil affair. Heyh, same here. I just don’t assume everyone else is that way too. Some people don’t mind getting laid and paid at the same time.
yeah, that’s the key
lol
I might not mind under some circumstances, and if that happens I don’t want anyone to go to jail about it.
gold digger
repub’s dont respect other peoples’ right to be different
In fact, I don’t want anyone to butt on it of it, ’cause it’s nobody else’s business.
are you all like americans? Armon, i like that name, sounds like my greatest lovers name
Oh. I can’t even remember what it stands for anymore.
The thing is even if you do allow for all those things to be free, you still need guidelines set up for them if not for anything else public safety and public health issues.
i’m an american latino (1/4 jew), on self-imposed exile in euro-land
Amor, Red, Midnight, something and Nothing.
armour man, artillery infantry perhaps?
Chrono-Z: Guidelines are one thing, putting people in prison is something else.
So you can argue that even in freeing them you still have government oversight and control which people will argue againist regardlles.
Chrono-Z: Well, at least it’ll be *less* government control. Besides, why regulate that any more than alcohol consumption and free sex? Prostitution by definition is in no way different from sex, except there’s an exchange of money as well. It’s only unsafer because it’s illegal.
Armon hey is prostitution was legal for example I think it would be reasonable for the ladies to need health certificates, if one forged there and was sick it is a real risk and would be ok using jail as punishment.
Chrono-Z: It would certainly be better than putting them in jail, as is the current law. But I must ask; why? You don’t think women fuck around without getting paid? They do.
to answer why regulate, the same reason why we have health code regulations and the such for resturants but I don’t have any for my home kitchen
actually, most “red blooded americans” would be shocked to see the #s comparing socio-economic shit between teh US and europe
it’s the same concept.
yer, i heard that its only when a form of money exchange occurs, then the criminal act can be made upon in places where is illegal like america
holland, where prositution is legal has an average 1st intercourse age of 18 (or so).. in the US, its 14,something
Chrono-Z: I can agree to that, I don’t believe in *no* government. We need a government to protect us from coercional factors from other places, e.g. big corporations.
in australia is also legal
That can and do oppress people when they’re in a position to do so. Yeah, it’s because people don’t learn responsibility that they’re not given.
exactly.
Wipe a kid’s ass ’till 13, he won’t start wiping his own as until exactly then.
certainly, I was just pointing out that the general idea of removing bans for sake of removing governemnt oversight and guidelines isn’t really factual in nature. there always has to be public health and safety in mind atleast there should be rather.
any german girl over 16 is on the pill.. any girl you bang out here will insist on condoms and even aids tests its just normal
Chrono-Z: Oh, I don’t see it as such, I see it more as that *putting people in prison*, is not doing them good. It’s not protecting their rights. Chrono-Z: Guidelines are you protect rights and people. I wouldn’t mind regulation that grants inspections and shit like that. (Outside of your own home, of course.)
yeah that’s the kind of things im talking about
What I mind is fining people and putting them in prison for not adhering to mainstream moral standards.
I can agree with that.
Long story short; I don’t believe in victimless crimes.
Armon r u from america wat do u do for a living?
When the victim and the purpotrator are one and the same, a ban is not the answer.
i agree Armon
Originally from Iceland but I currently live in Finland.
omfg ur icelandic that is sooooo exotic omfg, like bjork i am a huge fan
lol
Hehehe, I get that a lot.
omfg
is it true that icelandic girls are very, umm, “open” about sex..
Incidentally, I’ve met her many times. I have an original photo of her at home, taken by my mom.
r u like blonde blue eyes or eskimo looking Armon?
that like kissing and banging are pretty much the same..
On the drug issue even thought i don’t agree that all drugs should be free and open (just from a humanitarian point of veiw) I do believe a vast many should be but i think you really have to provide services for such things as well.
omfg, Armon, that is amazing
Like addiction centers and needles exchanges.
Well, that’s maybe exaggerating, but they certainly like a fuck.
tossing addicts in the gutter just causes more problems than it fixes.
But I think that goes for all of N-Europe. It’s the same in Norway, Sweden and FInland. Women are actually allowed to have a fuck for fun, just like men. Socially, that is. It’s not a taboo.
i heard like scandnavain countries are like so perfect, they dont even have a prison in iceland is that true?????
lol.. yeah, my ef-gf is swedish and i visited her there a few times
Truth it society is easier to manage when it’s racial and culturally homogenized.
No, we do have a prison, actually. And a few holding facilities, but none high-security. And furthermore there wouldn’t be much point; where the hell are you going to go escaping from jail in Iceland?
omfg, are you like hajatarsson or something, some one’s son,or hajartardautter? someone’s daughter
Gunnarsson, yup.
ur a boy omfg
(Which means my dad’s first name is Gunnar.) Sure am.
i so love iceland soooooo exotic
Ever been there?
r u like viking desedents or eskimo desedents? no i havent
Suomi
its like so peaceful and warm springs in winter
Entirely viking, although the theory that we’re also largely originated from Celts is becoming more widespread due to genetic research. But virtually no eskimo descent.
would you say people are friendlier in the summer or winter?
ok
There are probably more black people than eskimos in Iceland, when I think about it.
bjork is part eskimo yer?
lol i bet they get ALL the girls..
she looks asian
I couldn’t really tell, but the atmosphere is definately lighter in the summers. And by a long shot, even. Nah, she just looks that way.
many of the northern euros have slant eyes..
wow, she is amazing
its evolution
i know, i know
Hehehe, well, inbreeding never helped a race to my knowledge.
but i think is all related to mongos or eskimos or some how
it helps against the low sun and reflective ice
oh i see like anoushka the dutch model she looks asian also but she is blonde and blue eyes
i was in sweden last xmas/new years and i noticed that immediately.. the sun never archs over head and is always in your face the ice makes that 100x worse
anoushka wink thats right her name
having slant eyes would definitely be an advantage..
lol also, natasha henstrige, the species chick she looks not asian,but asian traits she is blonde blue eyed also
hrmm.. i live in louisiana.. and the weather is really the same.. it changes constantly… winter is funny.. HOT 3 days.. COLD 2 days.. HOT 1 day COLD 3 DAYS.. on and on.. and from what i can tell.. its been like this forever.. so now global warming action in louisiana. oh
im from melbourne australia
i love the.. HOT in the morning. COLD in the afternoon
Armon is like so exotic
and then. HOT the next morning.
Armon are you very beautiful?
HEH NO global warmning
Hehehe. Yeah, Iceland is great. But it’s too small for 25 years straight.
armon: iceland is mostly renable energy now right? renewable HEH
Just got my other box up and running Weeee!
Not mostly, but it’s a hot ticket. When I go back to Iceland, whenever that’ll be, I’m gonna try importing electric cars. Electricity doesn’t cost shit in Iceland.
shame none of the conservatives seem to be up.. they’d be tellin you how stupid renewable energy is.. or tryin to convince you that oil reserves are renewable
Hehehee.
hmm, time to update the topic line, 4 dead, 7 critical
Well, although I really don’t get everything neocons perceive as rational, Bush can get credit for supporting renewable energy. It’s to end US addiction to oil of course, but it’s still a good cause.
what was the posties beef ? oh btw, under clinton, violent gun crimes dropped 3%, largely due to gun controls so within the space of 24 hours, we have a Replublican placed in a position of trust to protect children, abusing children, & and other Reps lying to cover it up, and vindication of Clinton’s stance on gun controls - at this rate, things will get quite heated before November
