11.01.07
If you eat a very healthy diet 5 days when you usually dont and you exercise an dhave pizza on friday night no
of course
so you burn and your loved ones burn too
or, selfich
how is that in your self interest
selfishness on another level “i was altruistic, and so i am good, and thaat is the reason i did it, to feel good” selfish
tortus, perhaps in a non life threatening situation
altruism is about expecting nothing in return that’s not what i’m talking about at all i’m saying something is expected
darwininians tell us the instinct for self preservation is the strongest evolution pretty much depends on it so we have these people behaving ‘morally’ directly contradicting that instinct what gives
hence one basis of nontheistic morality is simply the idea of self-defense
Psychologists like me dont believe in altruism.. the main reason people believein alturism is they thinkmistakenly the only pay off to people is money.
don’t.
right there are all kinds of other payoffs maybe i just want to be liked
in fact plenty of studies have proven that phsycological payoffs are more important to people.
not when the outcome in no way garauntees survival
of course ego stroking
yeah jumping on a grenade
They find for example a boss who treats you well is more important to workers than more pay in studies.
for the go ego definitely running into a burning building definitely for the ego
well none of these distill down to just religion or god there are perfectly nontheistic explanations for these behaviors
they distill down to the basic matters of morality and what is right, wrong regardless of diety
the idea that morality only comes from theism or god is just ridiculous and completely uncompelling
I deny altruism exists because, Take a case like mother theresa.. I believe she thought she would be rewarded for her efforts in heaven, and she may of gotten some payoffs while on earth such as fame which clearly she had. Often people will say the difference between a brave man and a fool is accident. or timing.
well the idea that it comes from natural selection or evolution is equally ridiculous, completely uncompelling, and quite frankly, outright contradictory so does it prove God? nope
Running into a burning building when you think you can save a baby is brave running in after its impossible is stupid.
does it disprove God? nope
i didn’t make the claim that it only comes from natural selection or evolution however ui didn’t make the claim that it only comes from natural selection or evolution however/u i said that there are nontheistic sources for morality
Saddam dead, yay!
you’re the one suggesting it has a root in theism or god or religion
sure, and what did you suggest those were I am suggesting that, yes
ethics are not alwasy copnnected to god
Love is a motive for self sacrifice, but again thats a pay off.
and yet these moral behaviors occur in atheists
sure they do
so your explanation is completely wrong from the get go
a belief in God doesnt create morals wrong
there are different types of love. 9 types according tot he greeks
dont confuse the two
Ajofi, I spent years doing charity work and I am and was an atheist.
i am stating morality exists outside human consensus
atheists can be moral
they can
people well tell you I saved thier lives. I will deny it, but they believe it.
as i said, animals have their own morality
And I DO deny it.
various animals do have expected behaviors that are and are not acceptable and they are observed to teach and punish and reward
Atheists and religious people can be moral or amoral or immoral.
some of them anyway
i beleive that. howver. i think people act within the human consensus. eg. a person may do something that nags at him as immoral, tho it is not considered wrong in his community the animals are not moral.
thank you
the animals have no guilt. or did you not notice that?
It has less to do with religion and more to do with upbringing, mental health, and somtimes environment.
guilt is not required for morality
heh he didnt say that
religion is one of many teachers of acceptable behavior
its a result of morality
Guilt actually is required..
anyway, nice chatting, bedtime for me, its 2 am here
the emotion of guilt is not required
You see some of the principles of religion apply whether or not your religious or believe in god.
i can pick ths up later
yes it is
no it’s not
Guilt is the emotional response to when we violate our ethics, our morality.
why isn’t it?how did you get to that conclusion?
Repentence is the admission, acceptance of same.
Buddhism that guilt is the common response to violation of morality does not mean it is the only response
Then you have whats the catholic term.. penance..
damn, it’s a good day today )
payback. or making the wrong right. and then forgiveness and redemption. So you can let go of the guilt Ok. I hit a girl in the face and run.. I feel guilty bcause it violates my morality.
people who dont experience guilt for immoral behavior are what we call sociopaths and psychopaths people who dont experience guilt for immoral behavior are what we call sociopaths and psychopaths
do you suppose there are moral codes that one might not know about, and so could transgress and not feel guilty (because he didn’t knwo it was wrong) that would mean there are universal moral codes
I can try to deny it, like a sociopath would. or I can admit it confess it.. To myself.. thats what confession is about, its not for god or the preist, its for yourself.
sure it’s possible
see where this position leads?
arcade- i’ll second that, i’d like to see it too
once you accept it then you go tell her, look, I hit you and I feel very bad about it, and I want to make it right.
RIP Saddam Hussein
you are arguing universal moral code
if she accepts it and allows it then the guilt and the pain goes away thats the psychological side of morality..
no if someone doesn’t know something is wrong then it isn’t wrong to them, that’s not universal morality
12 step programs all incorporate the same ideals.
indeed.
if a person commits a grave crime, but doesn t feel guilt because he didn’t know it was wrong, then you get to the place where you can say a person can do something wrong and not feel guilty
thats amorality lack of morality
that is definitely not moral universalism
the only people without morals are consdiered mentally ill
immorality is people who get pleasure from doing things they know are wrong. Sure, Amoral people like bill clinton are sociopaths..
pathology something wrong with the chemicals
yes well i could consider George amoral
They can mask behavior and sometimes successfully deny they even did it.
and you consider bill amoral
Who ?
so either we are both right or both wrong
George ? No way hes definately moral
oh god yes, total amoral sociopath i totally believe it
Im talking as a psychologist not a partisan.
me too1 !
Ajofi You can push me too far.
i do not believe he understands at all the human suffering he is responsible for
you never met an antisocial personality, or didn’t recognize it when it was in front of you
I have some expertise in this..
so do I
Many doctors came out and suggested bill clinton was probably sociopathic. why ? Because he denied events which happened.. he denied situations where he hurt women and displayed classic traits. I did not have sex with that woman Monica Lewinsky
charm. lack of guilt. ability to spain without remorse trails of people in his wake
And he strikes out at others with anger when they challenge him. this is classic
i think that is one example to which the VAST MAJORITY of married men would get to
Sociopath which is no longer a psychological term has to include about 5 factors.
they would absolutely try to deny an affair
but also, the antisocial personality usually is not good at long term planning. they are very “in the moment” clinton had the planning
lack of remorse, harm, ability to lie to ones self, blamin others like the victim.
perhaps it was other people doing the planning
detachment from the event. It has been said by many people that the way bill clinton learned to cope with an alcoholic household where his father beat his mom is by creating a psychological wall.
arcade- you think this is real? http://lbn.threat.tv/Saddam_Hussein_Execution_aired_on_Al_Arabiye_061230.mpg
sociopath and psychopath are pop terms. the better term is anitsocial personality
where he compartmentalizes things.
i think making an actual clinical diagnosis of either Bill or George is beyond the scope of either one of us.
and in his scandals, he has a pattern of repeatedly doing it, he didnt solve this when he got old, he never got over the child of an alcoholic thing..
We are not qualified.
the big factor is…lack of empathy. you have to search long and hard to find a human being who lacks empathy but they are there
Ajofi, I majored in psychology. and I studied it intensely after i dropped out
And the people who “suggest it” have not actually had any professional contact with these two people.
i worked in mental health for 12 years. i met lots of antisocial personalities murderers even
Yes my best friend is a pyschologist at CU Boulder and I’ve had this conversation with her numerous times.
Today its called anti personality disorder, but I prefer the term sociopath. I think the new term can be misleading.
its a scary thing
and she totally thinks George is a sociopath. I’m like whatever…
she would not use that term
have fun… aloha best new year
i called is sociopath because i brought up the topic, she didn’t
Ajofi and if she is honest and not partisan and she studies or knows Bill clinton it is obvious he comes from a dusfunctional family and is symptomatic of being a sociopath.
but she knew what i was talking about i didn’t ask her about Bill
My dad was a criminal lawyer as well as other law for 50 years… He said clinton was definatley a sociopath and he dealt with them all the time. and hes not a partisn.
it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they both had psychological problems
And I have the ability definately to seperate partisanship from my other analysis.
I think a lawyer is in no position to make such a diagnosis. And as I said, I think such diagnosis is something that needs to be determined after professional consultation. Including my friend who is so totally convinced.
Bush comes from a very functional, large loving family and has a strong psychology because of that, except for his youthful indulgences in alcohol an drugs.
but look at how we get out politicians. what we put them thru. they practically have to be lacking any feelings of humiliation or fear to just get the nomination. let alone the big phat prize
unfortunately for society these things are not done before elections like physicals
you can see the personality disorder in a written test.
You see, I honestly dont have as partisan a bone in these discussions as many of my friends do..
its not that hard to diagnose
My friend doesn’t care about politics at all.
but i doubt they have been tested i certainly would not submit to any psych test
If i was being partisan because of desire to tear someone down, I wouldnt even discuss this issue. Hillary I dont think is a sociopath at all. She seems to have it together, obviously she has some neurosis to get hooked up with bill and a lot of ambition but she is basically mentally sound.. at least no psychosis I have deep neurosis myself. I dont have any psychosis.
psychosis is a break with reality. neurosis is just defense mechanisms, which can be out of control
It isnt that hard to spot in people who are in the public domain and whose personalities are “out”
I do not like Hillary. her politics
i dunno. i spect lots of personality disorders are undetected
likely
In quiet people definately
first time i saw the diagnostic and statistical manual, i had every disorder in it. every one omg! i am a kook!
Its sort of like detective work, Show me a persons home and how they keep it and let me observe them for a day and have a history of their behavior and especially any run ins with the law.. But obviously quiet people I cant tell they could be serial killers. if i go into someones home and its messy but no ttoo messy, then right there he is probably not a serial killer (Esp. if he has a spouse and kids)
you know some FreeTra2f?
I think a whole new generation of crazies are growing up around the world because of all this exported violence Isolation produces generation of bitter children in Gaza http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=78087
most people who diagnose disorders put a heavy weight on the factor…is this interfering with the daily finctioning? in the politician, that is not happening
exported? don’t we have enough violence at home?
But if I go into a house and its a single guy who is very quite, analytical and his house is extremely ordered. Much more likely to be a serial killer.. But of course serial killers are still extremely rare in society
enough to export
ah those poor kids FreeTra2f have you watched dexter off showtime
here too
TTT, well I had the benefit of about 25 years of treatment too which taught was like graduate school in psychology but did nothing for my neurosis.
aloha
No I havent watched dexter. Dont know what that is. aloha
we all need defenses. they can make us neurotic ( obolete term) but, usually the defenses are needed. and there is no reason for us all to be alike
Neurosis is not at all obsolete, where do you get that ?
the idea of normalcy is just that. a norm. its an idea. not a reality nobody is normal nobody
And no we dont need the defenses. Those are the symptoms of neurosis not the disease
nerosis is a fruedian term no, we need the defenses i use cognitive therapies.
the alcohol may be the symptom of the social phobia but thesocial phobia and anxiety disorder are the disease. Or in the case of avoidance.. thats a defense mech, but the underlying nerosis causes a need to avoid.
cognitive restructuring….no term for neurosis
im pissed that they didnt convict of the kurdish massacre
ttt, I was a counselor. You can change the terminology the facts havent changed in 5000 years.
you could not strip a person of his defenses and expect him to be ok
instead of hanging him they should have left him with the kurds
uless you were skilled at replacing those with something healthier see, i don’t buy psychoanalysis psychoanalysis is bunk
Defenses are guards against neurosis. stripping a person of defenses will either make him completely free of inhibition and affect a kind of cure or drive him into psychosis Its high risk therapy and its been tried.. of course to degree..
nice terms in ide ego and superego. nice examination. but overall, freud was not accurate
Im not talking 100% of defenses Frued is bunk He maked psychology much more complicated than it is.. pschology is behavioral or its a chemical disease.. maked = made
i use cognitive restructuring. or cognitive behavior thrapy, it is about restructuring belief systems. it has a very good record, and is used by cutting edge clinicians. nobody uses frued
he was a drug addict…Listening to Freud is like taking head advice from mike Tyson
Behavioral psychology can be workd with. chemical deficiencies or organic psychiarty requires medicines for treatment. My spelling btw is incurable.
well, there are chemical diseases. cognitive therapy can be used for people who have chemical diseases and others i dont treat chemical diseases, i am not a doctor
ttt, to help them cope but it wont rid them of their neurosis..
i treat dysfunction
if it does it wasnt chemical. it was behavioral.
Death Therapy Bob…..
you can rid a person of “neurosis” easity
No you cant you can treat it often
yes. you can
and its usually not easy contrary to prozacs reputation
its easy
its very hard to cure. or to even treat but yes it can be treated and people who have it just need patience. its almost impossible to cure. in my lifetime Ive never seen anyone cured from neurosis.
its not hard, it doesn’t take much time
Ive seen people thing they were cured of say OCD as they washed their hands the 70th time that day
even for people with serious metnal disorders, you can restructure the cognitive processes course, they still need the chemical
or of the anxiety disorder as they started shaking and ran out of the building with the fight or flight mechanism on full.
peole without chemical disorders, its easy
YOu can help people but cure is rare. and I usually the people were misdiagnosed anyway if they were cured.
nope. people can be cured. if it isn’t chemical
Well yes..
if there is chemical the effects can be reduced considerably
Sometimes
i tell ya. help is there
but then its been misdiagnosed.
just don’t go to the psychoanalyst
I know help is there, I was a counselor people will tell you I saved thier life, which I tell them is full of shit because I have never saved thier life, I helped them save thier own life. they saved their life. psychologists and counselors have no power. they are simply like guides.
counselors who talke the supportive role are bunk
its up to the individual to help himself. to seek help, to take the steps to make the decision.
you have to restructure the thinking and the behavior nah. you can make them
whether is pharmacology or whether its group therapy cognitive behavioral or 1000 other methods.
cognitive behavioral restructuring is the way to go. it works. its proved. it is easy to do
ttt well Its pointless to argue, I can only speak of my experience as a counselor.
i know
And my first advice to people is save the $100 a week therapy monies. except in rare cases which are more likely issues of maturity.
i didn’t beleive it myself until i had peopel coming back to me like i was god or something, i had to remind myself and them that it was thier work, and their acheivement its freaking wonderful
which you could get from a good role model or a AA type program for free. And if its a severe neurosis like clinical depression get drugs.. join a free group of people workign together on issues like depression.
well, aa is all about giving over to the higher power. and that strategy works better than any for addicts it just works
but never have relaitonships withing these groups (boy/girl) or boy boy girl girl etc.
but real mental problems, use cognitive therapy
Drugs is my first advice for mental illness then adjunct therapy
the addicts can replace the drug with the compulsion to the org. that makes sense to me but you cannot argue with the track record
get tge disease under control then work on the coping and corrective measures.
sure, if you have mental illness, you need psychopharmacology there is a chemical imbalance
its like someone who is chronically high cholestorol, get the drugs get the cholestoral to safe levels them work on the lifestyle changes but you will never be cured its a process of continual work.
but, once stabilized, go for the cognitive
Go for whatever turns you on, buddhism, or cognitive, or meditation, or yoga, or whatever.
i don’t beleive that some serious mental illnesses are caused by anything other than chemical problems. people need to be treated
IN AA they have a saying, if it works dont break it. yes I agree some mental problems are chemical in nature.
i got a kid right now who is taking 7 medications, costing over $900 after insurance per month i worry for his organs
for people to believe the body can be diseased but not the brain is totally illogical and based on a false conception of human will. if will was the means to cure I would be the healthiest man alive. Ouch.. Do you mind if I ask what meds ?
seizures, psychosis, agitation. sleep disorder, side effects. add them up. its massive chemicals they give him at age 17 and they have since age 8
I dont like using meds on kids unless absolutely neccesary and then again what age is a kid ?
its too sad but that is what he needs or he cannot do daily life
I referred one girl to drug treatment in my life who was under 18
i really woirry for his organs
and she really needed it but they werent drugs which do any long term harm like to the kidneys or liver. 17 psychotic, yep the medicines are likely to cause permanent problems over a long time. all we can do is be thankful for the newer and safer drugs which are coming out each year.. there is a brand new one for schizophrenia I htink now. My sister is bi-polar fast cycler with psychosis.
so sad. i don’t know how to approach it. i just try to love him ( he’s adopted son of a very best freind of mine)
She has to take anti pscyhotics as well as anti depressants and mood stabilizers Yeah without them my sister would be dead. when manic she does insane shit.
same with this kid. without the drugs, he would be in a cage
like run out into a freeway across lanes thinking she cant be hurt
but i know the drugs are harming him. its so sad the tradeoff
or taking my dads credit card and going to a gambling place and spending it all Yep i agree which is why I have a lot of hope in biotechnology and modern drug and biotech therapies.
this one rode a gas powered scooter 30 miles, ran out of gas, laid down on the road to get help no judgement
its getting better all the time but still so far to go.. ttt yep
breaks your heart
yeah it sure does.. My siser was 18 so pretty so smart, so having the whole world before her.. and then WMAM.. Mental illness like a rock hitting her suddenly and rapidly getting worse..
now that is not going to be fixed by cognitive therapy. he hasnt even stabilized ondrugs yet. he is to oyoung. or adoescent or something.
WHAM I meant I still cant type Well ok with my sister a couple of her symptoms since she has so many but a couple respond immediately to MAOIs and yet ssris are the prferred therapy
i know what you mean. its a hard road
her anxiety and depression her panic attacks end immediately when she takes nardol no other drug works only nardol then she has to take mood stablizers and anti psychotics. MAOis are not good drugs..
i shouldn’t say this to you. but, i really like manics. love them. so much fun
well they just put on fox news, video of them putting the noose on saddam but not the actual hanging
they are one of the most contraindicated drug with combinations of drugs which exist.
manics do well on lithium usually
ttt hahaha, Well mania is a great feeling..no question if it wasnt so dangerous and so easy to break with reality while manic I would love to be manic all the time
just have to teach them how to make it even in the bloodstream
he looks pretty calm for someone about to be hung
most of the manics i know like to be hypomanic. just this side of really crazy. and i admit, i like them ther too
There are some newer drugs which work well. I have tried lithium myself, mostly out of curiosity, it just made me sick as a dog Im not bi polar..
but they can’t usually control it well enough to stop themselves from slipping over into all out psychosis
neither is my other personality
but, when they are hypomanic, they are a blast
ttt, sure, but the other side of bi polar mania is the inevitable depression. if they could stay hypo manic sure.. but when the deep suicidal depression comes.. thats the pay off. sadly
some bipoars only have minutes of depression mostly bipoars go off into mania and become serfl destructive. so dangerous to themselves. gotta love them tho
Which also reinforces the idea that its chemical because its logical, if you are on a natural chemical high which is abnormal then its logical you would deplete whatever it is dopamine or serotonin or whatever and then starve for it. while in depression but they still need to do a lot of research, its not like blood sugar which you can measure with a blood test, or creatin or something else. Anywa I have to split, take care and goodnight
lots of manics are quite competent if you can control the euphoria. but they don’t they lose judgement and become self destructive. not in the popculture way. they really become dangerous tothemselves but right before they become dangerous, they are an amazing human phenomenon. i love them all lots of lawyers doctors and especially comedians are manic i think the grueling schedule of doctors and lawyers push people into mania. i have known so many of them who are manic have to get them stabilized to go back to work they hate it, and they are so much fun when they are manic, they are hilarious i worked with more than one psychiatrist who ws manicky. we would strap them down and stabilize them until they could go back to work “dont hurt yourself.you are too good a human being to be gone”
Wait, Saddam’s dead? holy shit, that was abrupt. Those fuckin Iraqis don’t play.
the way it should be it’s like texas on steroids
you don’t think he was guilty? or maybe they convicted the wrong dictator?
he deserved to be tortured not just merely hung
oh, well … too bad
they stone people for adultery killing thousands of kurds was kind of a no-brainer
who does?
people less enlightened than me or is it I
one of you ..
I kinda feel bad for Saddam. And then I remember all the innocent people he slaughtered. And I feel good that he’s finally ascending his rightful throne in hell.
he was pretty pathetic when he was on the other side of the power equation
Most of them are.
he doesn’t get a throne in hell … he’s just another asshole
Hitler killed himself like a little bitch. Well, apparently you don’t watch South Park. Saddam rules hell with his Gay Lover, Satan. uWell, apparently you don’t watch South Park. Saddam rules hell with his Gay Lover, Satan./u
apparently I don’t
well you should
but I AM reading “Sleeping with Schubert” currently
red butt saddam was too funny. noblby should miss that
maybe I’ll catch the re-runs some day
you could download it illegally, if you had any motivation
if only I had the motivation ….
its a matter of prioritiy if this was important, you would do it
instead I downloaded the Blackadder font for my wife for christmas
you ever worry you’ve never personally known anyone he’s slaughtered? or seen him in person? it could all be just a big put on?
i watched that southpark with a 14 year old, and we both laughed hysterically
yeah, that worries me all the time … and we faked his invasion of Kuwait
what i really like is how they faked all those victim testimonials
there is some anxiety about the worht of news, but i assure you. saddam did indeed slaughter many thousand of iraqis
people they hired to meet me and tell me about the personal hell they suffered through
and all those pictures of gassed kurd babies lying dead in the street was filmed in Manhattan
i’m just saying, cheering the death of a man you personally know nothing about seems odd
saddam married his cousin ewwww
the saddam murders are eveident in the mass graves
oh he dug those himself?
i think you can marry cousins in the us too
of course not! they are CIA plants
i aint saying conspiracy, i’m crazy not paranoid
Well, I just hope that the fear sunk un as he stood on the platform. in*
all those people following you think you are paranoid
well they’re trained to
That maybe, just maybe, he should have rethunk that way he lived his life. And perhaps he should have changed it.
maybe he did
And then, a drop, and nothing.
and the media got it wrong
Rofl, hardly. There’s evidence.
no videos yet?
does saddam move to the light? or is he haunting fallujah as we speak?
impossible … once you get a position of power through mass murder, you more or less have to continue or run and hide somewhere like Argentina
wow i wish i handled the evidence like you did
fox is showing video of the noose being put on him
Ok, sorry. I’m one of those people that believes what he’s told by overwhelming sources.
me too
If you wanna say Saddam didn’t kill any of those innocent civilians and what not, go ahead.
he probably did just seems kinda scapegoatish
well no shit it’s scapegoatish but he was going to die either way.
“problem solved”
That’s not America.
scapegoat is… blaming someone for offenses he didn’t commit
He suffered the ultimate irony.
not necessarily
It’s no less different than the peasants rising up as one and slaying the evil king.
and then the dragon burns all the bad people
different *from* *from*
no scapegoat is blaming a minor party and letting the real guilty get away with it he was in charge the whole time
Back for a few Decided to have a cup of tea.. Man I love tea.
like we actually blame those in charge
the best way for a tyrant to go out is stabbed in the back by one of his guards
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dragging him through three years of trial looking weak and frail and distraught is cruelty
yeah, we should have made him be in a live primetime reality show make it entertaining
yeah, that would have done it
So why have the entertainment shows not done a tell all tattle on Sadaam, like Who did his hair before his big shoe, and what sort of Bill Blass suit he had on, tailored Italian loafers, etc
Well I was saying earlier, its a huge mistake to send people in Exile.
I especially liked the “dental exam” after he was caught hiding in a hole
I beleive Aytollah Khomeine was exiled to France.
yeah, look at napoleon…put him in exile, and he wound up taking over the world
yes Free
you missed that show?
Paris has been the home to manya a x pat
So was Poppa Doc Duluviar ? Thats not the right spelling.. hmm What was his name ? And Ida Amin even wasnt he ?
OcDoc must have been the ultrabright commerciasl that turne dme off
Duvalier
and Baby Doc
yeah
The French love thier Pscyhopathic mass murdering dictators.
the Ton Ton Micute (sp?)
Pilgrim you too are an early bird..
his “guys in sunglasses
yeah … soak a tire with gasoline, hang it around your victim’s neck and light ‘er up
I can’t sleep. was rebuilding a XP box that died stupid opsys
Im so jazzed at having a new bed I want to stay up and enjoy it.
my XP box lost its network port…but was still networked and refused to be restored
I have slept on a mattress on the floor for 20+ years
or to take the registry and back it up so I coudl transfer to a new WIN load stupid opsys so now its load in all the serials on programs AGAIN and I knwo I lost some
ack
so I will use hacked even though I paid for the damn things
I have a triple backup which might be excessive.
ahh windows…karmic punishment for being wealthy enough to own a computer
probably not
though if my #1 drive goes to hell Ill be glad I had it. One is a duplicate. so in theory I should be able to boot it.. without entering serials or anyting
if my number one drive goes to hell, I buy a new computer before I start all over again with totally new shit
the other one is a complete back upi incremental
I have the opsys on this box on a 40gb. the box has 870gbs on it
then once a month it makes a whole new back up
I only back up my most important files … one on the shelf and one in the lock box at the bank I rotate them every month
my strategy is to have nothig on the computer, and if y=ui get a virus, i reinstall. takes less than an hour. my files are not online
my Important files are in teh fireproof box in the gunsafe. I do not keep business, or personal financial or ident data on a comp
well, I have a 5 gig offsite storage for pictures.. but I need to add a lot more pictures.
he who steals my identity, steals crap
I only recently got a reliable digital camera. all the kid shots are film snaps
STOP THE EXECUTION!!! I HAVE NEW PROOF!!! SADDAM IS INNOCENT! or am I too late?
rofl
too late
Dutch it is a bit of a stretch now
damn
OcDoc, I had pizza tonight because I have been eating a modest diet all week and going on walks every day. so I said, Go for it my man! Enjoy! (To myself)
it cracks me up that everyone is buying digital cameras and saving their precious memories to inherently unreliable hard drives…
it was actually……..the butler
he was innocent yes it was pilgrim
all that hard work down the drain
I keep my memories in…my head
my head is defective
I have a somewhat weird memory
Iherently unreliable ? Well since I have about 5 copies and use offstorage as well I aint worried As well as dvds
I save them to CD-ROM
i think you have to resave your pics every so often. they degrade bi think you have to resave your pics every so often. they degrade/b
CDs degrade too 10 years tops
all 36 of them i have a HUGE freezer
I kept a list, written in glyphic in a special book
you are a bad bad man
in case you want a little snack sometime?
yeah
wanna know a funny?
yeah tell me
nah i’m good
OcDoc, it doesnt really matter right ? In fact your supposed to eat junk food occasionally arent you ? No need for total austerity..
one day, you look at the name of a gal you shared with and thing. damn! who was she and what did she look like?
oh … yeah … uh huh … right
junk food is good for the sould people forget about the soul
hehe, No seriously ?
evil grin
cuz you just don’t rememebr
one day? try the next day
If you eat a very healthy diet 5 days, when you usually dont, and you exercise, an dhave pizza on friday night no bid deal right ?
right
I eat Ramon a lot
if you eat a healthy diet, pizza just doesn’t taste good. too salty and fat
Raul … it’s “eating raoul”
Well Im pretty happy and feeling good about this weeks exercise and eating.
superiority affects taste buds?
I stopped eating pizza a long while back. not for health but cost
I am not happy about my sleeping habits, 2am to 8am but that has to change soon anyway
“Eating Raoul” was a pretty bad movie
As I get back to work full time. ive sort of been off for 2 weeks
no. you train your palate to finer sensations. pizza is like genghis khan on the tongue
I put on enough weight the last few years that…I figure I can live on the excess a while
ocdoc, the title never appealed to me.
true
my dinner of Andre?
I should have paid more attention to the title, I guess
good movie
either about cannabalism or a sexual preference opposite mine
with andre
hhahaha
strange but good
yah
ocDoc what does one eat with Andre? an ontre?
ocDoc, the sentinel is a good movie..
well, it was a two hour movie so apparently they had seven course meals
there are lots of movies about good food
pilgrim’s french sucks
OcDoc I actually saw…part of it. seemd like a stupid conversation
all of them are good
With Sutherland and cant think of his name.
you had to see it from the start
argh.. Why cant I think of his name..
OcDoc I have, at a typical diner any firday night of my youth sitting aroudn the coffee taking the world apart at AM
