10.23.07

Talk about defining Philosophy narrowly it must only be about epistomology and logic and illogic and relativism

Posted in Politics at 4:03 pm by Michael Johnson

I thought I was the only one who had read that comic…

Marvin Harrison is the greatest wide receiver ever.

he has a big butt? nm…

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/16/AR2006091600193.html I can hardly believe this it makes you pretty mad

lol.. all those years of Marino.. never with a great wide receiver to match up

5 page article worth the read

actually.. Did you vote for George W. Bush in 2000? Do you support the way the president is fighting the war on terror? damn fucking good questions

Peyton Manning is the greatest quarterback ever.

then they hire people with no experience in postwar because they worked for a republican campaign

guys http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×2832293 please tell me if i’m wrong

that is objectionable, yes. but it is not objectionable to screen people who supported Al Gore, who object with the war of terror

fire a doctor with 4 post doctorates and experience in 3 postwar situations for a republican community health advisor they weren’t allowed to ask military and government workers those questions some kind of privacy regulation that they get that civilians don’t

Well, before you get angry, keep in mind, this is only the personal opinion of a staff writer in fact, it could all be pulled out of his ass, for all the reader knows

it is horrible to take out the experience and insert nobodies because of their affinity for bush

_if true_ it is wrong to send inexperienced people.. but it is _not wrong_ to refuse to send those who will not fight for iraqi’s success

people who get the job done are much better than peopel who have shown nothing more than a bush cheney t shirt

we’ve had a number of people using their offices to attack the administration

and someone who does not support the war on terror has no business being over there, period.

they hired a 24 year old with no experience in finance to head up the iraqi stock exchange

correction, it is a nobody at a single newspaper’s personal claim that is what happened

they didn’t ask if they supported the war on terror they asked if they agreed with how bush was conducting it He quotes people and sites facts anyone could find any one of them wrong, we will see and anyway these guys are reconstruction workers not war fighters

how can you reconstruct iraq if you were against the war?

like they say how military police don’t have civilian police experience, does that still mean that military police are better at all types of police work because they are paid to fight the war on terror you rebuild the nation

wow, sending _military_ people to iraq is now bad? nice

thats like saying Masturbation cures Polio !

sounds like someone against the war but would like to profit from it

i don’t think it’s right how some military personnel are being redeployed after serving time in iraq when we’ve got active military people in hawaii, maryland, japan that haven’t spent 1 day in iraq

nicos` you’re back

yep lol

nicos maybe the others dont have the type of combat experience needed to survive a deployment

hello

hi sys nicos cool

why am i seeing redeo on FOX right now instead of nfc football?

well, many of the reservists sent over had no combat experience

rodeo

perhaps you’re right, binda…just doesn’t seem right to me

I do question why we are using so many reservists instead of pulling active soldiers from other non-combat roles

exactly lupine

lupine well true..but still those who have been there done that know more to deal with it

there aren’t enough non-reservists … that’s why

nicos is the desk spotless now?

but some may be women who are not allowed into combat

i don’t agree sysrpl

my sister is in the air force, and is not allowed in combat

syrpl plays a support role which is needed as well

we could pull some active duty people from the navy and send them over to iraq before calling up national guard and reservists getting there rebec…it wasn’t dirty, just unorganized

nicos lol ok

if it concerns you that much, you could always volunteer for the army or marines

no thanks sysrpl

well.. put the reservists into the non combat jobs, and put the active military there

i don’t want to die for Bush’s needless war

unless they have a special skill that is needed.

not worth it, IMO

but dont they let those who say they want to go back go first,cause many do want to finish the mission so to say.

yes/no. your unit has to be deployed there

new rightwing PM of sweden http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4963/reinfeldt494puff275e424of8.jpg

nicos I could find a way to say all wars are needless

what is the mission?

the mission..to get iraq secure enough to end up like japan and germnay

binda, like i said, it’s my opinion

how do guns turn people that hate us into less violent people?

it dont..they just are no more

dont worry about guns. worry about nuclear weapons and other wmds. at this point in the technological advancement of humanity, guns are a minor concern.

iraq has and had no wmds

yea truthspkr…like the wmds that reside here in the USA

sysrpl nor does afghanstan..the threat is human

so basically we’re stuck in iraq for the next ~50+ years?

bingo. youre right. the real WMD is human nature. all ppl have the seed of murder in them.

but afghanstan was harboring terrorists

icmp..well cant see “combat” for that long..maybe a few bases sysrpl well look what we found when we lifted the lid off Iraq..a den of snakes

what does that mean?

That tends to happen when you force people to be complicit in your actions against their will..

thats means saddam sure did have a rather large pool of possible recruits to send our way

Lift the “lid” off any country the way we did in Iraq and you’ll find a den of snakes in every one.

that’s the thing…there’s no way whacko nations like iraq, pakistan and india are ever going to stop developing wmds as long as the USA manufactures them too

Including the US.

have you considered that muslims and islam are violent, and when you remove the system of government holding them together they turn into violent thugs?

iraq=iran

iraq pakistan and india did not…not one of them…develop wmds in response to the US having wmds

can’t type

are you sane?

sorry, i meant nicos

Um, they didnt?

iraq pakistan and india did not…not one of them…develop wmds in response to the US having wmds

Pakistan and India HAVE nukes

you call india a wacko nation?

do any of you actually believe saddam would be helping protect us from the extremists who want us destroyed anyway?

of course they do. never said they didnt.

And they both have terrorists and anti-US people who would be a ’snake’ if we were to invade them as we did in Iraq.

my point was…these nuclear nations did not develope their arsenals in response to the US having nukes it was for other reasons

who is protecting the world from the extremists here in the US that want the world destroyed?

i meant iran, truthspkr…not iraq…and i didn’t say they did it in response to us….just saying that who are we (the US) to tell them they can’t have wmds?

saddam had the same attitude as this leader of iran

from the leftwingers in the US?

Who developed anything directly because of the US?

they aren’t doing a very good job

well, its true. the US does have a lot of left wing extremists who want to destroy the world with AIDS

Anything Iraq had (that we didnt give them) was likely either for Israel or Iran eh?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         

what’s your stormfront handle?

they’ve been developing for a lot longer than Bush has been in office

since the usa made the first nuclear bomb was have the international patent rights

can i send you a pm there?

No.

go to dictionary.com. check out the word “satire.”

I was joking

anything that iraq had was given to them by us in the 1980s…remember when donald rumsfeld shook hands with saddam hussein?!

you never know in irc

of course youdo

man, they’re running a Steve Irwin marathon.. it’s amazing he didn’t get eaten by a crock, snake, etc

rrriiiiggghhhtttt

even a slightly below average IQ has that level of discernment.

Crikey!

nicos saddam got 99.999% of its military hardware from Russia

but those with an IQ below 90 have trouble.

irc #politics is full of whack jobs … an you expect the benefit of the doubt?

Lupine, any shows about Stingrays in the schedule?

naw.. he had some from France as well

wrong. only 50%

lol

saddam got 50% of his armament from the USSR, 18% from China, 17% from France he got 1% from the US

truth name what they got from the usa other than mustard gas?

that is one reason why the french were not allowed to fly their Mirage jets in desert storm.. they didn’t want to risk mis-identification

per the stockholm international peace research institute

exxoset missle

they didnt get mustard gas from us the exocet is french the US doesnt produce mustard gas they got mainly communications gear from the US

the MiGs were from Russia, with French equipment onboard

well thats what heard..so that was just rumor

MIGs and Mirages from France armored vehicles from Russia

Hey, US doesnt produce any chemical or biological weapons anymore and hasnt for decades.

SCUDs from russia, china and north korea wrong the US produces chemical wpns

i got a scammer on craigslist trying to scam me with a fake money order … what should i do?

Iraq also got surplus Huey choppers from the US..

but the US doesnt produce bio wpns except in order to develop antidotes the US obviously produces nukes

USA has been destroying stocks going back to WW1and ww2 which the major impediment to destruction is that fact that they are environmentally hazardous to deal with.

we havn’t produced a new nuke in quite a while

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US defense policy is that we will NEVER use a bio wpn. even in resposne to another nation’s WMD

the point is we were not the ones who armed saddam as much as people claim we did

And its very bureacratic and includes a hell of a lot of paperwork to go with it.

we barely had anything to do with arming saddam. that’s leftwing propaganda not even based in reality.

don’t forget a ton of idiot groups sueign to stop the elimination process :-/

also, he got his nuke devpt equipment from france and germany and his soldiers indiv infantry wpns from the USSR the AK series, etc

USA has been destroying nuclear bombs.

those are old, obsolete wpns

Yea, we’ve destroyed a shitload

we dont need them and maintaining them is expensive

eh? many were minutemen MIRVS

freelawys dont nukes have a shelf life .they degrade over time anyway

they’re generally small-yield they degrade especially the containers

but when the treat to use is infiltration and human suicide attacks,nukes are kinda worthless as self defense on a domestic level. threat

which is why most morons today who dont think iraq was a threat to the US demonstrate their ignorance of modern delivery systems

or NK or iran for that matter

yep

“NK doesn’t have an ICBM, they can’t hit the USA”.. um.. ever hear of a container ship going into LA?

or suitcase nukes

from what I read, suitcase nukes from russia are less of a danger, as they require alot of maintianance

even that technology is advancing

webulite keeps messaging me

russia was not the only manufacturer of suitcase size nukes

just put him on perminent ignore

the concern about them was that some allegedly went unaccountable during the breakup of the USSR

got the baby on baby einstein video crack so I have a few minutes to chat with you folks

he keeps changing his identification

well some will say they wont really mess with us we have nukes..well we have nukes and they are sure messing with us.

ralphi there’s a baby?

sure is - well 21 months so more like a toddler

MAD only works against rational people

ralphi wow I feel so behind the times

uh oh, here he comes

brb

Hmm. Eugenics doesn’t sound like such a bad idea after all…

the baby crack wore off AND he has a poop so I have to run bye guys

So whats up today folks ?

i think short of somebody using nukes on us we can’t use nukes especially not against a terrorist organization which really has no ties to any one country

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. — C. S. Lewis

L0c0, I agree

in a sense in this “war on terror” our most power weapons are the most ineffective its a whole new ballgame

L0c0 the world outrage of us using nukes would be too much. We can go alone or with allies a long ways in the world. We cant go that far without crossing a line civilization would condemn us for. The only possible means is retaliation.

ironically our technology is severly dampened by the enemy’s lack of technology

interesting, this show is saying that when Japan surrendered.. the commanding officer of each naval boat commited suicide to prevent “loss of honor” of the fleet

well the fear is also retaliation if we did go nuclear… mutual ?annihilation? (dont’ remember if that was the term used) i think is why nukes were’t used during the cold war can’t think of the term…mutual something…. basically if we launch, somebody else launches, others start to launch…roaches take over

MAD=mutual assured destruction

there ya go thanks

but we do know what nation are spawning these terrorists against us

saudi arabai? arabia even pakistan? afghanistan? iran? syria?

yes

thing is you can’t just go in there willy nilly and bomb them not like we did in WWII in europe

but we cant take them all on at once..so why not start with iraq and afghanstan

unlike w/ japan where we struck so much fear into them that they surrendered… an all out attack may just enbolden terrorists and their sympathizers even more

in the hopes democratic reforms there will spread

but at the same time, it may be that democratic reform delivered by tank doesn’t work either in an ideal world sure…but that’s not where we live

loco it has before

japan?

but then these islamic extremists may be even more ruthless than the nazi

i read this one time about how there was this HUGE mental shift in japan after the bombs fell b/c suddenly they came to a realization that the emperor wasn’t the near diety they thought i dont’ recall where though…long time ago in hs well, the Nazis wanted land, islamic extremists want followers regardless of where they come from or where they go to

L0c0, they banned shinto which taught that the emporor was a deity radical islam is just shinto version 2 the japanese had suicide bombers too

LocO no I think these islamist want land as well..people like to joke they live in sand..well the grass is greener on our side of the fence so to say

but in a sense, japan was home base

right but that’s true for all the fascists

the place to withdraw to if needbe… for these, they just blend into the crowd it seems that’s their biggest weapon

it’s hard for the japanese to believe they have a divine right to rule the world when two entire japanese cities were just destroyed

ok but remember, arguably the biggest difference is that japan and germany were countries… government officials were directing their military operations in a very organized way… islamic terrorism is very decentralized

hard to believe in a thousand-year reich when there are russian troops marching through berlin :/

well then lets have a fake civil war..and then claim we cant control the terrorists amoung us no more

huh? nah, let’s just prove that alah is not on the side of the terrorists that their war against the west isn’t alahs will break their faith

well these muslims nations want to claim they cant control their terrorists..let do the same then

just like we did to the nazis and italians and japanese before them

thebarry, you’re talking about two very different usages of the word “faith” heh and this one is much stronger

seems to me… all the hijackers were Arabs….all were Moslem. Seems that would lead to some strong and pretty conclusive supositions

which one?

I would not be lookign to 70 year odl Irish Nuns as the next wave

religious faith vs. faith in a political movement or ruler of a country the former is stronger

or wait me may be doing that..we can claim we dont want to kill the islamists..but we just cant stop Bush

nah it was virtually identical

does it matter?

with the japanese it was a religious faith

hmm

with the nazis and italians too i believe, race but they all amount to bigots

Discovery has a show about how quickly menthane can shut down a plane engine (i figure this has to do w/ the bermuda triangle)

same crap theyre specials -s and everyone who isnt just like them is less than human

0.995% methane to kill the engines wow

history repeats!

to stall a piston engine

arab and persian supremacists

in WWII it was pretty clear that many ethnic Japanese were very much ont he US side. some were not…. didn’t matter. ALL were rounded up and detained for the duration as a safety precations and personally: I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA gvien the circumstance. -yeah. profiling. it worked

i’m watching that too L0c0 great show did you see how fast the model tanker sunk?

no i just switched channels to it

can you imagine one of those big oil tankers sinking in 3 seconds?

hmm

that’s insane

oil tanker sank?

they popped a big air bubble under the ship

where?

and it sunk in like 3 seconds

and overturned it?

it was a model pilgrim

WHERE? ah

i think i’d seen something about that before

it was a MODEL calm down they were testing a theory

michigan steams like a young man’s dreams lol

of how so many ships have been lost in the bermuda triangle

was that to test what methane gas bubbling up can do to a ship

yup

that underground landslides release big pockets of methan gas which is known to be down there

I read once of a suposition that liquified methane underlies all oceans and coudl boil up seems iffy to me

and that those huge bubbles could sink ships so quickly they can’t even radio a distress

but they have seen it happen in lakes

well, there’s enough methane gas off the coast of the carolinas to power the usa for 70 years ha

yeah, once Africa. a lake int he Cameroons there is enough hot air in Washington to power world politics forever

killed anything close to it

one lived a fellow who fell asleep inside a closed metal tool shed. He was drunk

lol figures

getting drunk lowered his motabilism it saved him

maybe we need to recycle all this methane gas before the earth blows up

I eat beans as often as I can

i heard about a trucker who bought one of those gas heaters and had it in the truck with him to keep him wamr and he died from the co2

lol

honestly, that was just darwinism at work i don’t even feel that bad for him

just nature correcting itself

he ate beans made it worse

if he’s stupid enough to do that shit he would have run over a family eventually or something similar so meh muslims are assholes btw hopeless

Thebarry, please. Some are yes

losing their minds because they WANT to most

But please they are not all assholes they are not all violence, some of them you couldnt tell where any different than an average american moderate christian family

most christians are assholes too

I am sick of muslim”rage”mayself..what are they now the global speech police

Thye have 4th of July BBqs in their backyards. they invite christian and jewish guests and atheists like me though they may not know it. So please dont use the broad brush

when have you been to a muslim 4th of july bbq? omgwtfbbq i want pics

radical violent muslims who use violence instead of dialogue are evil. yes. this is not Muslims though. This is a segment of muslim culture.

pics plz

freeAlways but what help to us are moderates..they are road kill to their extremists

Interesting.. the submarine that sunk the USS Indianapolis set port from right next to Hiroshima

Thebarry, Take my word or fuck off. I have remodeled a muslims house who was married to a christian very popular guy who had bbqs with his neighbors and was a great guy

i require pics of you gnawing on a beef rib beside ahkmed

Thebarry you are so goddamn ignorant of the world

hahahaha

Its really disgusting to me Look Ill say this once.

so much for civil discourse

I understand rage and anger with the actions of the militant Islamists. its 100% justified

I have serious doubts about anyone who espouses a desert religion, but since I work with many, and they seem able to conduct normal human intercourse, I figure there must be a species self govonor that prevents religion from doing stuff TOO STUPID

freeAlwys oh really now

http://catholiclondoner.blogspot.com/2006/09/very-rushed-post.html

did it no for some research

But to say all muslims are militant and are like these militants is to be very ignorant of the world and particularly the USA where there is a lot of integration

i still want pics of the bbq

how about we adopt the attitude that a crime against one christian is a crime against all

Where a lot of muslism work next to you at work and you may not even know it. Thebarry I dont have a blog yet And I dont have pictures.

tinypic.com oh well so much for that fairy tale

Not even of my 1st class remodel I wish I did because I did some beautiful custom work there.

depends if they ear pork or not eat

But Thebarry, Expressing your rage over events in the last couple days i can accept your emotionalism, but if thats your policy this channel wont accept you.

I see nothing these moslems have done that have not been done by..: Red Brigade, IRA, Berner Mienhof, AIM, Tamal Tigers, Shining Path Maoests, Burma seperatists, Nepalese Maoists and on and on and on bI see nothing these moslems have done that have not been done by..: Red Brigade, IRA, Berner Mienhof, AIM, Tamal Tigers, Shining Path Maoests, Burma seperatists, Nepalese Maoists and on and on and on/b

And insults just wont cut itr

primates are just silly

Pilgrim yep Sometimes Pilgrim exactly and I condemn them all.

pilgrim the thing is we dont live in the past..so past threat mean nothing

well I have soem Oregon weeds to deal with, I may survive.. bbl unles the kiwi eats me

I would even go so far as to say more muslims in this world right now are radically violent than probably an other group, Im not 100% sure but its a reasonal proposition. But it in no way included all of the muslim world. includes

God is an Indianapolis Colts fan.

And I am not lying when I say I worked for some and one in particular who celebrated the 4th of july which all his neighbors, Huge BBQ

watching a show on finding the USS Indy

Kurt God is not a football fan

FreeAlways as I said before..moderate or liberal muslims cant help us anyway,they are roadkill to their extremists if they do

It says in leviticus he who touches the skin of the pig shall be put to death ergo God is not a football fan

Rebec haha

Free I guess, I was being serious though

we are reaching out to ‘moderates’ but have some not noticed they are being killed for ti

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060917/481/d31683636135451a98bfbb86315b6573

well, actually as the eminent 20th-century Russian-American philosopher Ayn Rand proved there is no god

moderates in afghanistan..iraq..palestine..etc..are being killed by the thousands because they are seen as giving us aid and comfort while we try to stop their extremists terrorism

and Christ of Nazareth was a worthless socialist radical leftist just like Trotsky and Bush and all the others

oh well take care all

that was “proven” long before ayn rand, lol

Rebec, Well if your point of seriousness is any old reprsentation of the bible is a) mostly ifnored today, B) has been altered considerably even by ecclistiastical bodies. And C) If we took it literally we would all be hell bound I agree it is very serious and to judge one religion on the standard of their literal works and not the other 2 abrahamic religions who share the pentatuch would be simply intellectually dishonest.

does ayn rand even count as a philosopher?

Absolutely She does Philosopher for one thing is a very general term, I think that more than anything in life, I am a philosopher. I believe I am..

well true

philosophy is not just meaningless platitudes, dumbasses

in the greek sense it means lover of knowledge

it is the systematic, rigorous study of the fundamental nature of reality

what is reality

i.e. is color an intrinsic property of an object, or is it just a construct of the mind?

how do you know you are alive or dead

I almost went to college for it, but then I realized, Philosophy isnt limited to logic and to praxis and to other $50 dollar words I can come up with. Philosophy is as real for an old blues player uneducated in New Orleans as it is to a PhD in a university. I was trying to think of this one %50 word but it escapes me. its about the origin of an idea.

if your life isn’t so good could it be you died and went to hell?

Some of you who are better educated “academically” than I would know the term. Its on the edge but i cant grab it. But the point is, Philosophy is about learning about life about our view of life, its so broad.. Philo

dunno

love osophy roughly Learning

you’re narrow…philosophy is about more than just “life”

how about the innocent civilian who is living a difficult life? Maybe he is in hell and the accidental bombing of he and his family liberates them from a living hell

it’s about the fundamental nature of reality

soph

Love of learning passion to know. To understand the world.

and it’s not enough to come up with nice-sounding platitudes you have to be able to defend them rigorously and systematically

Kurt2, My point is philosophy is extremely broad.

otherwise, you’re not “doing philosophy” you’re just blabbering

Ayn Rand had a philoophy there is no doubt about that,. She has a view of life which was systematic, consistant and not only that she had many followers and people she has influenced even like me.. Though I am not a Randist she has definately influenced me.

lover of wisdom

I would consider Atlas Shrugged required reading for a full education. Even though many parts of the books I have issues with

I never read it, perhaps unfortunately

but being intellectual means being willing to expose yourself to these influential ideals and take them apart for what you believe in and what you dont believe it, To Critisize her and to defend her. I agree with her in general, I think though she over Idolizes mans potential, She makes super heros which dont exist and in her own commentary she says these people do exist, I dont think a Dagny Taggert or The other guy exist.

I am just not sure if rand is of the calibre of what we would typically call philosophers, in the academic sense at least

Cant think of his name off hand. But as idealized individuals some aspect of what makes them ideal and super human are virtuous. Some parts may be over the top

like schopenhaur, nietzche, derrida, and so on

yeah, I cant relate to Derrida at al, I can Nietzche who I think was vastly misunderstood. In fact it is the consensus of most modern day (post 60s) intellectuals that he was misunderstood. Nazism got mixed up in a very individualistic ideology or philosophy and it poisoned the well for a long time

nietzsche was misunderstood. he obviously meant the black man as the ubermensch.

and people associated nazism with Nietszche

( :P )

but in the 60s/70s there has been if you will a neo Nietzchean discovery of the mans philosophy divorced from that baggage.

Nazism is the opposite of individualism

I agree.

and it really pisses me off that ignoramuses such as yourself think philosophy is limited to ethics and politics when in truth those are the two most boring, least interesting branches of philosophy

has anyone seen sintient?

kurt is angsty

And I think its been claimed anyway for example, Nietzche Hate spelling that word), Considered Jesus an ubermensch though he didnt respect his followers much. So his atheism isnt even understood complete.

must be a second year phil student or something

But I am not an expert, though he does interest me

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen

kurt2, Your pissed at me ? What ? What did I do ?

I think nietszche thought zarathrusta was not only the best book he ever wrote, but also the best book ever written by anyone

Who said it was limited to ethics and politics ? I dont think anyone said that. Did I miss something ? Someone explain to me if they know

then why are you not even bothering to touch on the most important and most interesting branches of philosophy, metaphysics and epistemology?

Rebec, I think sintient burned the bridges…

Because I am completely baffled now. I was going to say epistomology thanks for my 50 dollar word I couldnt find but I think intellectual academic philosophjy isnt any more superior than a new orleans jazz muscisicians philosophy as I said. Why not bother to touch on the academic narrow view of philosophy which is above most peoples heads ? Because its above most peoples heads is proof its gobbledy goop sometimes.

“Exit polls put Sweden’s centre Right narrowly ahead last night in the closest election for 30 years after a campaign dominated by the future direction of Europe’s most generous welfare state.”

it is, because it is more rigorous and systematic

IamKing, it’s always fun to read how Dems think they were cheated

that which is not defended rigorously and systematically is not worth considering

Whow was it a famous philosopher even with you academics who said that Really Philosophy for many is simply religion without a god. name that philosopher ? who was he ?

Every time they lose, it’s because someone cheated them

I dont remember Ive studied 30 or so of the worlds most famous and Ive heard philosophy from drunks which was genius (Recovered drunks)

what about godel, systematic and rigorous is….meaningless?

Kurt2 why not? Kurt2 just because an idea doesn’t have many enthusiasts, doesn’t mean it is invalid just as an idea having many who belive it doesn’t make it true/valid

Talk about defining Philosophy narrowly, it must only be about epistomology and logic and illogic and relativism ? Tell these people what epistomology really means and then tell me why we need 5 syllables to use it ? Why not speak in simple terms

theory of knowledge

heh…seems that all that Muslims can do when someone offends their religion is riot and burn people in effigy

especially wiht a term like that

nature of knowledge

doesn’t epi stoma break down into above the mouth

IamKing they are knee-jerk ractionaries worse than Dems and Repubs :P

Rumble that alone is much easier.. and one can even simplify it more germanaine to the very specific topic at hand whatever that might be.

hahahahah

that’s not my argument my argument is that if you can’t defend it with rigorous logic, all you’ve got is an empty platitude

that’s why Air America can never succeed

Kurt2 logic is not “rigorous” or unrigorous… it’s like being pregnant, it is either a logical argument, or it is not

apparently kurt doesn’t know about godel’s theorums

oh, I know about it but it’s full of shit and patently false

as opposed to full of shit and true

interesting, patently false! noless

rigorous logic my fat ass

apparently I was miseducated

Ocdoc the most impressive philosophy in my life has been “Street philosophy” and David Hume.

or Escher or Bach

the only thing i remember from philosophy class was my hot teacher

David Hume could out consume

And adam smith but people think of him more as an economist, he was more than an economist

well I have heard of that book, but I also took quite a few logic courses in university

good book

I happen to like bach and escher as well :0 the walking monks

I disagree … I think there are degrees of logic but they don’t depend on the rigor of the philosopher, they depend on the nature of the subject being analyzed

I don’t think anything about logic can ever be decried as patently true or false. its tricky stuff

mathematics may be subjected to rigorous logic, the nature of the univers may not be that’s clearly not true … you can defend some things with more logic than others, and some things are more defensible logically than others, it’s not absolute

Sorryt kid wanted me. I am back had to solve a ebay time run out emergency for him

lucky you!

Hes bidding on something ocDoc

Rene Zellwiger that’s the actress I was trying to remember from Katey, Texas FreeAlwys believes in the philosophy of Brit Hume

Logic isnt always neccesary to defend anything. if I say a rose is a rose by any other name.. People can circle jerk and right books about that premise..But most of us understand it intuitively. bLogic isnt always neccesary to defend anything. if I say a rose is a rose by any other name.. People can circle jerk and right books about that premise..But most of us understand it intuitively./b right = write

a rose by any other name would smell as sweet

I subscribe to the view that human knowledge is vast house of cards

The term overintellectualize should never be far from a persons mind.

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